God of War 4 Leaked

Started by ethomaz, Apr 04, 2016, 11:28 PM

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DerNebel

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Quote from: Aura7541 on Apr 05, 2016, 08:28 PMI don't know... I actually kinda want to play as a valkyrie :P
Then what would you have naughtiness with? Lol

(I guess they could go girl on girl though)

Raven

We're assuming quite a bit about who the antagonist is and what the goal is. I would actually find it incredibly dull if they just go "you're killing all the well known Nordic gods this time". I'd like a more interesting goal than total deicide.

darkknightkryta

Quote from: DerNebel on Apr 05, 2016, 08:30 PMThan what would you have naughtiness with? Lol

(I guess they could go girl on girl though)
Exactly!

But yeah, Link doesn't talk and is a nameless hero.  They've just been rehashing "Save Zelda" for almost every entry.  Kratos has motive and talks quite often.  His motive was revenge.  He got his revenge, why drag his character on for?  He needs to get more revenge against Odin?  Just start fresh.  With more boobage and "feminism"

ethomaz

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Apr 05, 2016, 08:01 PMI'm not necessarily against the "sense".  I'd just rather they do something else.  Kratos' story is finished.  While I wouldn't mind another greek style game cause I love greek mythology, but just start fresh.  Make a new protagonist to take on Odin.
So make a new IP and not God of War.

For me God of War = Kratos

Don't make another protagonist to play the game.

the-pi-guy

He is a new protagonist.  
New beard, new man, that's what I always say.  

Legend

Quote from: ethomaz on Apr 05, 2016, 09:17 PMSo make a new IP and not God of War.

For me God of War = Kratos

Don't make another protagonist to play the game.
Exactly.

A SSM hack in slash where you play as Thor could be pretty cool, but it'd be crazy to call it God of War.

GOW has 6 games already! I can't think of a single franchise that switched protagonists this late.



Although I guess the game's name isn't official. It could very well end up being a spiritual spin off.

the-pi-guy

"God of Thor"
You heard it here first.

DerNebel

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Apr 05, 2016, 09:12 PMExactly!

But yeah, Link doesn't talk and is a nameless hero.  They've just been rehashing "Save Zelda" for almost every entry.  Kratos has motive and talks quite often.  His motive was revenge.  He got his revenge, why drag his character on for?  He needs to get more revenge against Odin?  Just start fresh.  With more boobage and "feminism"
Then replace Link with Snake from MGS, the point is that there are more ways to have a Kratos character slay Norse gods then to simply take the exact one you already have and put him in that setting, this could easily, and for now I'm expecting it will be, a new Kratos, maybe a reincarnation or something, with his own story, character, motivations etc.

darkknightkryta

Quote from: DerNebel on Apr 05, 2016, 09:55 PMThen replace Link with Snake from MGS, the point is that there are more ways to have a Kratos character slay Norse gods then to simply take the exact one you already have and put him in that setting, this could easily, and for now I'm expecting it will be, a new Kratos, maybe a reincarnation or something, with his own story, character, motivations etc.
So you're saying Santa Monica needs to make another prequel?  Perfect.

Then why have this gentlemen look exactly like Kratos?  Tatoos and all?  

DerNebel

Quote from: darkknightkryta on Apr 05, 2016, 11:34 PMSo you're saying Santa Monica needs to make another prequel?  Perfect.

Then why have this gentlemen look exactly like Kratos?  Tatoos and all?  
Brand recognition.

DerNebel

I don't even...

NeoGAF - View Single Post -  God Of War 4 art leaks (Norse setting, Kratos w/ beard) (Up2: Polygon says real)

QuoteDevelopers..this is why you don't listen to GAF. If SSM listens to the vocal minority and ruin my beloved Kratos and god of war, I will give up on the gaming industry.
 If Kratos has a son and we play as him then Ill be ok with it. But not some whole new protagonist from a completely different mythology that would be completely disjointed and not make any fudgy sense.
 Everyone was pissed ( including me) when you played as locke in Halo 5 for majority of the campaign. Halo is master chief just as much as Kratos is god of war.
 



the-pi-guy

NeoGAF - View Single Post -  God Of War 4 art leaks (Norse setting, Kratos w/ beard) (Up2: Polygon says real)

QuoteOk Ok. After some digging. I think we already had norse clues in GOW games. Look what I found in God Of War Ascension:http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Mj%C3%B6lnir/ Yep that is Mjölnir; Thor's hammer. I don't think this is innocent or pure hazard. In fact ascension had a hidden secret mentioned in Neogaf before: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=522813 which may be an opening to a new adventure: http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Predi...nd_Revelations
QuoteIn God of War: Ascension, two visions of Aletheia are revealed. The first depicts Olympus after the Second Titanomachy. We see spirits fleeing from the depths of the Underworld, thunder roars and Olympus burning. The image contains a code: QUJIKPHIUEEKMJQUJ (English Version). Once cracked, the code will reveal a new premonition. An immobile earth and the prediction of an new adventure. What this new adventure is, remains unclear but it is likely a hint to a new chapter in the series or even a new franchise.

 
QuoteSecond Mural In the second mural, "A lone soul surveys the wake of carnage that surrounds him". It could possibly mean that a lone man, possibly Kratos, stood amidst the destruction left behind after the Second Great War.

 
Look at the second mural pic: Kratos is still alive after the second great war is over. The third mural is the most interesting one:    
QuoteIn the original draft by David Jaffe, the Three Wise Men were meant to be Kratos and his Norse and Egyptian counterparts, after they wiped out the Olympians, the Gods of Asgard and the Egyptian Pantheon.  

 
In greek mythology and GOW there are some analogies between greek and norse lore: this example of analogy is very interesting since it may be the connection between both worlds if it is the place were all the pure souls from the universe go to:http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Elysium_Fields
QuoteIn mythology, Elysian Fields is not restricted only to pure souls but to those who died of heroic and noble death as well. This is similar to Valhalla in Norse myths.

 
Kratos fighting with the norse has already been applied in this non official de-make called Bit Of War: http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Bit_of_War From Kratos wiki page: http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/Kratos
QuoteDeveloper Stig Asmussen has revealed that David Jaffe intended for Kratos to take on the Norse and Egyptian gods after having defeated Zeus and the Greek pantheon. Whether this story is yet to unfold, remains to be seen.

 
And from God Of War III wiki page : http://godofwar.wikia.com/wiki/God_of_War_III
QuoteDavid Jaffe's Cut Plot In an interview with GameTrailers.com, David Jaffe explained his story to God of War III. The first cutscene featured Oceanus in his water form (similar to Poseidon's God form) killing Hermes. Kratos then would fight Zeus in the opening boss fight and kill him. Then a portal opens on Mt. Olympus where the Egyptian and Norse Gods descend from. The Titans and the Greek, Egyptian, and Norse Gods wage a war to determine who would ultimately rule the world. Kratos then discovers the power to teleport back and forth through Norway, Egypt, and Greece. Kratos encounters Stheno and takes her head in a boss fight. Then in another boss fight with the Sphinx, Kratos uses Stheno's head to turn the beast into stone (and that's how we have the Sphinx statue today in Egypt). Kratos then realizes the way to permanently kill a God is to get mortals to stop believing in them. Kratos' plan was already in effect because the Gods were focused on ruling the world and had their minds off of the mortals. Thus, the mortal world was under natural disasters. The mortals stopped believing in the Gods, which weakened them. Kratos & the Titans kill off the remaining Gods. Kratos then uses the Blades of Athena to slit his wrists, resulting in another trip to the Underworld where he is reunited with his wife & daughter. The final cutscene showed the Three Wise Men heading to the North Star resulting with the birth of Christianity. Bit of War, a God of War III demake, follows David Jaffe's version of the plot loosely.

 
You see? The idea has been planned for long time now, or let's say from the beginning and it has been plotted by the directors of all epiosdes. That is why I am sure that Cory Barlog knows very well what he is doing now. Gooing back to what shinobi602 said: http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php...&postcount=980
QuoteOriginally Posted by shinobi602
 
 

 
 Ya'll are getting too hung up on Kratos. ;)

 
What I highlited above and what shinobi602 sparkled is making me confidently assert what I said before: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=1449
QuoteOriginally Posted by PLASTICA-MAN
 
 

 
 Maybe (or surely) we will play more than Kratos: meaning we will play Kratos and another character (and maybe in coop too). The whole divided fans will be satisfied then.

 
What I fear from shinobi602 post is that we may face another MGS2/DMC4 syndrome where devs wanted to try forcing a new character to the series helped by the series main protagonist with whom we play only for a  short time while the rest of the game is being played by the new rookie. This will result in being nostalgic about the previous hero and just waiting for the moment to control him even if it is short or late in the game. I just hope I nailed it and uncovered most of what is being cooked for this game. Also Egyptian mythology incoming (in this episode or in a newer one).
 

Ludicrous Speed


Max King of the Wild

Kratos is the reason this game sells well. No Kratos no sales

Kratos can still end up in Norse mythology and it makes perfect sense.  you people are really limited by your imagination. For instance,  his original motivation was revenge for first hand experience. His new motivation could be revenge for people who have been taken advantage of by Gods but have don't have the power to stand up for themselves.