Fine bro's the Internet won!

Started by Mmm_fish_tacos, Feb 02, 2016, 03:24 PM

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Mmm_fish_tacos

A message from the Fine Brothers
Hello,
We're here to apologize.
We realize we built a system that could easily be used for wrong. We are fixing that. The reality that trademarks like these could be used to theoretically give companies (including ours) the power to police and control online video is a valid concern, and though we can assert our intentions are pure, there's no way to prove them.
We have decided to do the following:
1. Rescind all of our "React" trademarks and applications.*
2. Discontinue the React World program.
3. Release all past Content ID claims.**
The concerns people have about React World are understandable, and that people see a link between that and our past video takedowns, but those were mistakes from an earlier time. It makes perfect sense for people to distrust our motives here, but we are confident that our actions will speak louder than these words moving forward.
This has been a hard week. Our plan is to keep making great content with the help of our amazing staff. Thank you for your time and for hearing us out.
Sincerely,
Benny and Rafi Fine
*This includes "React," "Kids React," "Elders React," "Lyric Breakdown," etc. Please note: It takes a while for the databases to update, but the necessary paperwork has been filed.

DerNebel

I have probably never cared less about an internet shitstorm.

Mmm_fish_tacos

Quote from: DerNebel on Feb 02, 2016, 03:31 PMI have probably never cared less about an internet shitstorm.
I didn't until I started looking into it. I'm glad they gave up. It goes against everything youtube stands for. Now to do something about the broken I.d content system they have in place.

Legend

I like content ID though. It does no harm to the youtuber, but lets the content creator have some say over their ip.

I just hope that if changes do happen, they at least keep the ability to view stats on matched videos.

DD_Bwest

rofl.. the internet never loses

Mmm_fish_tacos

Quote from: Legend on Feb 02, 2016, 03:57 PMI like content ID though. It does no harm to the youtuber, but lets the content creator have some say over their ip.

I just hope that if changes do happen, they at least keep the ability to view stats on matched videos.
Yes but it's highly abused. I've had my video flag for game music. I've had them flag for using the "free music aswel". It does harm them because the youtube doesn't get any money off a video that has been content id. The owner of the music gets it all.

Legend

Quote from: Mmm_fish_tacos on Feb 02, 2016, 04:02 PMYes but it's highly abused. I've had my video flag for game music. I've had them flag for using the "free music aswel". It does harm them because the youtube doesn't get any money off a video that has been content id. The owner of the music gets it all.
I thought it was 50 50 if they pushed ads on the video?

Mmm_fish_tacos

Quote from: Legend on Feb 02, 2016, 04:07 PMI thought it was 50 50 if they pushed ads on the video?
Not that I've seen. Even still if you have a 30 second bit of song that isn't worth 50 percent. Maybe 2 percent unless your video was 30 seconds long.

the-pi-guy

Didn't really care, but it's a good thing this happened.  

Legend

Quote from: Mmm_fish_tacos on Feb 02, 2016, 04:14 PMNot that I've seen. Even still if you have a 30 second bit of song that isn't worth 50 percent. Maybe 2 percent unless your video was 30 seconds long.

How do they handle it when you use multiple IPs during the video?

Mmm_fish_tacos

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Quote from: Legend on Feb 02, 2016, 04:40 PMHow do they handle it when you use multiple IPs during the video?
Not sure.


For example, if one policy says to monetize the video and another says to block it, YouTube blocks the video. If all valid claims monetize the video, revenue is divided by the number of claims except in special cases such as cover revshare and music.

Legend

Quote from: Mmm_fish_tacos on Feb 02, 2016, 04:45 PMNot sure.


For example, if one policy says to monetize the video and another says to block it, YouTube blocks the video. If all valid claims monetize the video, revenue is divided by the number of claims except in special cases such as cover revshare and music.
That seems reasonable.

Mmm_fish_tacos

Their sub count is still dropping.  Watched if for about 30 seconds and lost a 100 subs.

TheFineBros Subscribers over time

Legend

Quote from: Mmm_fish_tacos on Feb 02, 2016, 06:09 PMTheir sub count is still dropping.  Watched if for about 30 seconds and lost a 100 subs.

TheFineBros Subscribers over time
Holly fudge when did this all start happening?

I only learned about it from OP.

Mmm_fish_tacos

Quote from: Legend on Feb 02, 2016, 06:21 PMHolly fudge when did this all start happening?

I only learned about it from OP.
Maybe a week ago, not really sure when it started.