Halo 5: Guardians will launch with no Big Team Battle maps

[Legend]

but how is 8v8 a big team battle? I don't understand why/how this would be delayed over the 24 player game mode...

Halo used to only be 4v4, so 8v8 was/is pretty big compared to that.

It's delayed because Warzone has microtransactions and is the thing Microsoft is pushing as the big new addition to Halo 5.

[ethomaz]

So it will be a rushed launch just to fit 2015.

then why are they holding back BTB?
this doesn't make sense they have a BIGGER team battle mode available at launch, but are holding back BTB?

Also 8v8 doesn't sound like a BTB at all...

Warzone has 24 players plus bots... it is not like a arena map... it is more a corridor map from what I can tell... it is different with a lot of AI things happening so the player count is lower but there are more things happening in the game.

BTB is the normal team vs team maps... just with a big player count... 8 x 8.

but how is 8v8 a big team battle? I don't understand why/how this would be delayed over the 24 player game mode...

For Halo 8x8 PVP is really big.
Bungie never worked with these big numbers of players... Destiny Control/Clash is 6x6... and I can tell you the best modes are 3x3.

[Legend]

So it will be a rushed launch just to fit 2015.
Warzone has 24 players plus bots... it is not like a arena map... it is more a corridor map from what I can tell... it is different with a lot of AI things happening so the player count is lower but there are more things happening in the game.

BTB is the normal team vs team maps... just with a big player count... 8 x 8.
For Halo 8x8 PVP is really big.
Bungie never worked with these big numbers of players... Destiny Control/Clash is 6x6... and I can tell you the best modes are 3x3.

Warzone maps are huge and open, with the largest player count in Halo history. On top of that, they also have AI players and mobs doing stuff.

BTB was added in Halo 3 by Bungie. It was fun because it was so hectic and action packed. Halo's 4v4 was always better for less casual play.

[ethomaz]

Warzone maps are huge and open, with the largest player count in Halo history. On top of that, they also have AI players and mobs doing stuff.

BTB was added in Halo 3 by Bungie. It was fun because it was so hectic and action packed. Halo's 4v4 was always better for less casual play.

Yeap... that is what I'm getting too.
How many players had BTB in Halo 3?

[Legend]

Yeap... that is what I'm getting too.
How many players had BTB in Halo 3?

8v8

[Raven]

Halo used to only be 4v4, so 8v8 was/is pretty big compared to that.

It's delayed because Warzone has microtransactions and is the thing Microsoft is pushing as the big new addition to Halo 5.

When was Halo only 4v4? The original Halo allowed for up to 16 players over LAN.

[Legend]

When was Halo only 4v4? The original Halo allowed for up to 16 players over LAN.

I stand corrected. I thought BTB was introduced in Halo 3.

[Raven]

I stand corrected. I thought BTB was introduced in Halo 3.

Not having this at launch seems pretty odd considering that's been Halo's multiplayer since the beginning. So it sounds like they're catering to the e-sports crowd and people who want something different while leaving out what old-school Halo fans enjoy until later. Definitely a peculiar choice.

[Legend]

Not having this at launch seems pretty odd considering that's been Halo's multiplayer since the beginning. So it sounds like they're catering to the e-sports crowd and people who want something different while leaving out what old-school Halo fans enjoy until later. Definitely a peculiar choice.

Plus warzone has microtransactions so...

[Raven]

Plus warzone has microtransactions so...

I've been out of the loop the last couple months but has no one been pissed about that?

[7H3]

Meanwhile on Planetside 2...

[Legend]

I've been out of the loop the last couple months but has no one been pissed about that?

Many people have been pissed about a lot of things Halo 5 is doing, but Halo 5 is also Microsoft's biggest title coming any time soon. XBOX fans are still hoping for the best.

[7H3]

Many people have been pissed about a lot of things Halo 5 is doing, but Halo 5 is also Microsoft's biggest title coming any time soon. XBOX fans are still hoping for the best.

when you put it like that it doesn't sound too hopeful...