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Started by Dr. Pezus, May 25, 2014, 04:14 PM

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BananaKing

Quote from: Legend on Jan 09, 2026, 12:23 AMOh my Tron Ares is the worst movie I have seen in a long time. It feels like a high school movie. I think it was about an hour in where it finally had a scene that was meh but at least "normal movie" meh.

Madam Web has nothing on this.
That bad huh? Never seen a Tron movie. I don't like  Harrison Ford. Though I heard the new (well not new anymore) one was really good with great cinematography... So I am tempted to watch it. 

Legend

Quote from: BananaKing on Jan 09, 2026, 06:00 AMThat bad huh? Never seen a Tron movie. I don't like  Harrison Ford. Though I heard the new (well not new anymore) one was really good with great cinematography... So I am tempted to watch it.
Well good news! Harrison Ford isn't in Tron.


Yeah Tron Legacy is pretty good imo. I rewatched it last week.

the-pi-guy

Quote from: BananaKing on Jan 09, 2026, 06:00 AMThat bad huh? Never seen a Tron movie. I don't like  Harrison Ford. Though I heard the new (well not new anymore) one was really good with great cinematography... So I am tempted to watch it.
Are you mixing it up with Blade Runner?

kitler53

i'll assume he's mixing it up with 'the dude'.  
         

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BananaKing

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Jan 09, 2026, 05:37 PMAre you mixing it up with Blade Runner?
Ohh shame .... Yes I am

the-pi-guy

I really love Mulan. One of my favorite Disney movies. 

I'd say it's a little underrated. 

BananaKing

Avatar at 1.2 billion. How far can it go? And will greedy Disney consider it a "success"?

nnodley

Quote from: BananaKing on Yesterday at 04:36 PMAvatar at 1.2 billion. How far can it go? And will greedy Disney consider it a "success"?
probably 1.6ish.  If they don't consider a trilogy of films that will make close to 7 billion a success, then I don't know what they would want. lol

They should be in pure profit at this point. Even if you consider a billion breakeven, that's still roughly 500 to 600 million profit. Plus the billion or more profit of Avatar 2.  

BananaKing

Quote from: nnodley on Yesterday at 05:18 PMprobably 1.6ish.  If they don't consider a trilogy of films that will make close to 7 billion a success, then I don't know what they would want. lol

They should be in pure profit at this point. Even if you consider a billion breakeven, that's still roughly 500 to 600 million profit. Plus the billion or more profit of Avatar 2. 
It doesn't work that way. 

Studios take roughly between 45-55 percent of movie revenue. Theaters take the rest. And it varies around the world. But roughly the general estimate is that it's 50% 

So when avatar makes 1.2 billion. Disney got revenue of 600 million. 

Now remove production cost. Let's say 400 million?
Then remove marketing cost. Let's say 250$ for something like avatar?

That leaves Disney 50 million in the red. And they would need the movie to make another 100 million just to break even

Those production and marketing cost are just me guessing just to explain how these things work. 


kitler53

Quote from: BananaKing on Yesterday at 07:23 PMIt doesn't work that way.

Studios take roughly between 45-55 percent of movie revenue. Theaters take the rest. And it varies around the world. But roughly the general estimate is that it's 50%

So when avatar makes 1.2 billion. Disney got revenue of 600 million.

Now remove production cost. Let's say 400 million?
Then remove marketing cost. Let's say 250$ for something like avatar?

That leaves Disney 50 million in the red. And they would need the movie to make another 100 million just to break even

Those production and marketing cost are just me guessing just to explain how these things work.


i was surprised by your statement.   i always believed the "AMC is a glorified popcorn seller" statement i've heard before.   Here is the AI response I got:

QuoteStudios typically get around 50-60% of domestic box office revenue, but this varies significantly: it can start at 80-90% (or even 100%) for major blockbusters in their first weeks and drop to 50% or less as the film runs longer, with art-house films often starting higher (like 70%) for theaters. Overseas, studio shares are usually lower, around 20-40%
How the Split Works (Theatrical Rentals)
  • Negotiated Contracts: The percentage, called a "film rental fee," isn't fixed; it's negotiated per movie between the studio (distributor) and the theater.
  • Time-Based Shift: The split favors the studio heavily at first (e.g., 90% studio/10% theater in week 1) and gradually shifts toward the theater (e.g., 50/50 by week 4), incentivizing theaters to keep popular films playing.
  • Blockbusters vs. Indies: Blockbusters start high and drop; independent or art-house films often have higher initial splits (like 70%) to help theaters manage costs, with concessions becoming crucial for theater profit. 
Why Theaters Rely on Concessions
  • Because studios take the majority of early ticket revenue, theaters rely heavily on high-profit concession sales (popcorn, drinks) to cover their operating costs like rent, staff, and overhead. 
         

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the-pi-guy

Kitler listening to AI?



kitler53

Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Yesterday at 09:04 PMKitler listening to AI?



for meaningless crud in which having a correct answer is completely unimportant?   sure.   

that grammar was terrible and conflicting in like 2 sentences in that response to the point i'm not sure the heck to say about blockbusters vs indies.  but also i don't care that much.   

it's when my dev manager trys to skip a meeting and only read the AI summary and starts acting on those summaries to completely do the absolutely wrong thing and waste hundreds of hours of company time that i think AI is more negative than positive.    
         

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