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Aura7541

#420
Jul 23, 2015, 02:27 AM
Came across this post by Amir0x on GAF regarding MS's parity clause.

NeoGAF - View Single Post -  Phil Spencer: Parity is a hell of a Clause

QuoteI find it so iced up how this whole thing is playing out, because it's so transparently targeted to try to shush up critics. If you ask about detail, they say they can't discuss it because everyone is NDA'd.  You ask the other companies about their policies for indies, and they are open about much of this sort of stuff these days.  If it was all sugar and rainbows, why is one company desperately trying to conceal the truth behind couched language and repeated garbage like what Spencer keeps saying? Then every time a dev speaks about it on neoGAF, suddenly the next day they're contacted by Microsoft, told to sign an NDA, and then suddenly it's "oh it's not so bad anymore it used to be a lot worse but now they're working with us and we can put our game on the system." At this point it seems the best route for any indie dev is basically to loudly go on neoGAF and complain about the red tape and nonsense and hoops and how many ways XBL on XBO is inconvenient compared to PSN, and then magically Phil Spencer will swoop to your twitter and caress you in his golden arms and tell you everything is going to be OK - and of course just enough swag so that you can come back on neoGAF and say it's not really that bad anymore, so people need to adjust their expectations cause it was once worse.  Except of course they can't discuss specifically why, because NDA. I'm sorry but these journalists need to do their damned job already and push back against this whole atmospheric of shady dealings.  How come when Spencer does this wormy nonsense mealy speech for the billionth time about talking to them, the response from the game journalist wasn't "I'm sorry this is nonsense.  You can't say you don't have a parity clause and then note a scenario in which a game comes out first for your competitor and needs to talk to you if they want an exemption for adding content."   This TALK TO US™ clause is battleship, full stop.  This COMPLAIN ON NEOGAF FOR SUCCESS™ clause is obscene.  This IF YOU WERE TIMED PS4/WII U EXCLUSIVE YOU REALLY SHOULD ADD SOMETHING TO YOUR RELEASE ON XBO BECAUSE DADDY KNOWS BEST FOR YOU™ clause is just offensive.  Indies know what is best for Indies; Phil Spencer knows what is best for Phil Spencer alone.  In essence, this entire discussion as it stands shouldn't even have a reason to exist.  But Microsoft keeps making reasons, because they're assholes on this subject and still don't get it.
 

Kerotan

#421
Jul 23, 2015, 10:49 AM
Turns out the dragon quest announcement for this week was a mobile game.  Next week is the last announcement of 5 so hopefully they finish with a bang and we finally find out where dq11 goes.

Aura7541

#422
Jul 23, 2015, 04:26 PM

Dr. Pezus

#423
Jul 23, 2015, 04:43 PM
Quote from: Aura7541 on Jul 23, 2015, 04:26 PM
Avoiding UC4, I see.

Dr. Pezus

#424
Jul 23, 2015, 04:48 PM

Aura7541

#425
Jul 23, 2015, 04:57 PM
Quote from: Dr. Pezus on Jul 23, 2015, 04:43 PMAvoiding UC4, I see.
SE is overdoing the avoiding, though. Uncharted 4 will be out in March. Why not release ROTR in June? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dr. Pezus

#426
Jul 23, 2015, 06:38 PM
Dragon Quest press event to be held on 7/28 in Japan, livestreamed - NeoGAF

QuoteRevealed in the latest issue of Jump magazine alongside this week's DQ scoops (Hoshi no DQ and DQ Heroes II), Square Enix will be holding an event next week on 7/28 with a focus on the series. Jump is promising information on "that big title" in their 8/3 issue as well which seems to point to a Dragon Quest 11 announcement.
 The scans says the event will be livestreamed so we'll likely hear official details soon.
 

Dr. Pezus

#427
Jul 24, 2015, 12:07 AM

holy shiii

BananaKing

#428
Jul 24, 2015, 12:10 AM
Quote from: Aura7541 on Jul 23, 2015, 02:27 AMCame across this post by Amir0x on GAF regarding MS's parity clause.

NeoGAF - View Single Post -  Phil Spencer: Parity is a hell of a Clause

at the end MS is really only hurting them selfs with this. PS4 continues to sell way more, and indies are releasing on PS4 and PC, they dont need XB1, this results in games releasing on PS4 and PC first, and sometimes exclusively. Micosoft can keep on bullying, but indies can simply chose to not even interact with them, and its microsofts loss.

7H3

#429
Jul 24, 2015, 04:57 PM
Quote from: NotBananaKing on Jul 24, 2015, 12:10 AMat the end MS is really only hurting them selfs with this. PS4 continues to sell way more, and indies are releasing on PS4 and PC, they dont need XB1, this results in games releasing on PS4 and PC first, and sometimes exclusively. Micosoft can keep on bullying, but indies can simply chose to not even interact with them, and its microsofts loss.
well as long as they...
...keep their awesome third party partnerships for exclusive deals for games like COD...
...Keep their best first party developers....
...be the best selling console in NA...
...have the most exclusives...
...have more 3rd party games with better graphics...
...nevermind...
"It's hip to be square." - Eurogamer<br />"Shut up its art!" -Legend

Legend

#430
Jul 24, 2015, 09:44 PM
Quote from: 7H3 on Jul 24, 2015, 04:57 PMwell as long as they...
...keep their awesome third party partnerships for exclusive deals for games like COD...
...Keep their best first party developers....
...be the best selling console in NA...
...have the most exclusives...
...have more 3rd party games with better graphics...
...nevermind...
Which first party devs did they get rid of?

7H3

#432
Jul 25, 2015, 12:28 AM Last Edit: Jul 25, 2015, 12:36 AM by 7H3
Quote from: Legend on Jul 24, 2015, 09:44 PMWhich first party devs did they get rid of?
bungie
dunno if they were first or second party, but effectively first party if they weren't, and they are 3rd party now
"It's hip to be square." - Eurogamer<br />"Shut up its art!" -Legend

Dr. Pezus

#433
Jul 25, 2015, 10:49 AM
Quote from: 7H3 on Jul 25, 2015, 12:28 AMbungie
dunno if they were first or second party, but effectively first party if they weren't, and they are 3rd party now
and tons of PC devs.

Legend

#434
Jul 25, 2015, 02:44 PM
Quote from: 7H3 on Jul 25, 2015, 12:28 AMbungie
dunno if they were first or second party, but effectively first party if they weren't, and they are 3rd party now
Bungie left way back in 2007.
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