The Order: 1886

Started by Raven, May 22, 2014, 01:56 AM

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Max King of the Wild

Quote from: Xevross on Feb 21, 2015, 04:59 PM
He lied, this game has 0 vampires. Not even a mention
i didn't lie. HE IS! I swear it. Maybe I'm the only one who knows though.

Slayer

sucks this game got bad reviews

was hoping picaka would buy it so I could play it

Mmm_fish_tacos

Quote from: Slayer on Feb 21, 2015, 11:22 PM
sucks this game got bad reviews

was hoping picaka would buy it so I could play it

It's not a bad game, maybe give it a rent.

Max King of the Wild

This game is like a cross between heavy rain and Uncharted. Good think I liked both games

Legend

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Feb 22, 2015, 04:28 AM
This game is like a cross between heavy rain and Uncharted. Good think I liked both games

I love both games!

Max King of the Wild

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Quote from: Legend on Feb 22, 2015, 04:32 AM
I love both games!
i was thinking about it at work today and this is what I've come up with. It has heavy rain QTE and story with Uncharted tps and adventure. It kind of suffers an identity crisis. And that is probably why it is suffering critically. If it went full blown one way or another then I think you get a high rated game. For me personally, I'm not too bothered about it. I'm enjoying it. But reviewers are probably not making the disjunction between the different parts and reviewing the cinematic parts as part of what tps should be. And it's true what reviewers have said about, "you're interrupt it." The formula is kinda like cut scene, walking/exploring/interacting, gun fight, then QTE. If you want this to be a full blown tps then you're going to be dissapointed and think it's a bad game. You want story driven, interactions with everything (including useless things that don't matter) and QTE game then you will be dissapointed.

Does the formula work? Obviously not for some and maybe not for a lot of people. But if you go into the game knowing there will be Heavy Rainesque type parts which slow down the tempo but progresses the story and okay with it then I think most will enjoy it. Even if you aren't okay with it... It's still definitely better than a 2/10. A 5/10 would be scrapping on the objectionable side but I'd accept them (which, most people other than 6 reviewers scored above anyway)

DD_Bwest

i think they need to bring the shotgunners into the order,  they can run into your bullets, take them unflinching and shoot their shotgun at you.   its beyond retarded.  I am a super knight of the order, yet i flinch from the smallest shame, while their shot gunner runs up like a fudgy ogre.

and suit of armor BS...   no enemy should ever be able to take more then 10 bullets to the face.  especially if your going to give them a fudgy grenade launcher... 


My rating for the game is falling quite fast

DD_Bwest

another problem,  and this goes because of its format and the way the game is made.   they fudge you over for weapons all the time.  Youll put something down cause another one will be better for the one guy,  then once he is dead, your forced into a cut scene and lead away before you can pick up the gun you wanted.   it happens constantly.

this could be fixed by 1 extra fudgy weapon slot..  but thats giving them to much credit.

Legend

Quote from: DD_Bwest on Feb 22, 2015, 06:00 AM
another problem,  and this goes because of its format and the way the game is made.   they fudge you over for weapons all the time.  Youll put something down cause another one will be better for the one guy,  then once he is dead, your forced into a cut scene and lead away before you can pick up the gun you wanted.   it happens constantly.

this could be fixed by 1 extra fudgy weapon slot..  but thats giving them to much credit.

I take it you're not a fan haha

Max King of the Wild

Quote from: DD_Bwest on Feb 22, 2015, 05:51 AM
i think they need to bring the shotgunners into the order,  they can run into your bullets, take them unflinching and shoot their shotgun at you.   its beyond retarded.  I am a super knight of the order, yet i flinch from the smallest shame, while their shot gunner runs up like a fudgy ogre.

and suit of armor BS...   no enemy should ever be able to take more then 10 bullets to the face.  especially if your going to give them a fudgy grenade launcher... 


My rating for the game is falling quite fast
i just got to the dude in the armor with the grenade launcher right before the warehouse. It wasn't that bad. But yeah, the shot gunners are pretty frustrating. Just use the blacksight on them.

DD_Bwest

Quote from: Max King of the Wild on Feb 22, 2015, 07:41 AM
i just got to the dude in the armor with the grenade launcher right before the warehouse. It wasn't that bad. But yeah, the shot gunners are pretty frustrating. Just use the blacksight on them.
it ruins the emersive fun.  Im supposed to be a super knight lol  if i start laying into a guys back with a machine gun, he shouldnt be able to turn around and hit me with a shotgun blast thatll knock me down lol     Grunts being stronger then i am just makes it feel weird.

DD_Bwest

I just finished it.   got all but 1 non collectible trophy.  lots of pro's, but also a bunch of con's.   6.5 is a bit harsh though.  mid 70's is about right.

Xevross

Quote from: DD_Bwest on Feb 22, 2015, 07:51 AM
it ruins the emersive fun.  Im supposed to be a super knight lol  if i start laying into a guys back with a machine gun, he shouldnt be able to turn around and hit me with a shotgun blast thatll knock me down lol     Grunts being stronger then i am just makes it feel weird.
Yes the shot gunners are ridiculous. I don't know why I didn't notice them on my first playthrough but they've been pissing me off the second time around.

After getting over my initial anger at reviewers and thinking about what the game could do better I think I'd probably score it an 8-8.5

DD_Bwest

Quote from: Xevross on Feb 22, 2015, 08:42 AM
Yes the shot gunners are ridiculous. I don't know why I didn't notice them on my first playthrough but they've been pissing me off the second time around.

After getting over my initial anger at reviewers and thinking about what the game could do better I think I'd probably score it an 8-8.5
are they any different on other difficulties?  i only played on hard, because except for the stupid shotgunners, everyone was pretty easy lol   the pistol might as well have shot a lazer its so accurate, i got the 75pistol kills and 100headshots pretty early lol

also, stealth kills dont count towards melee kills..  i found that rather odd lol  i didnt get the melee trophy until after i beat the game, i just went into a chapter and farmed it.  i found they died so fast it was hard to get close to them to initiate it lol

and they need to fix the shoulder swap.  there were many many times i needed to switch, and i woul hit it over and over again without it doing it.  it averaged around 8 clicks before it would swap shoulder.

Xevross

Quote from: DD_Bwest on Feb 22, 2015, 08:49 AM
are they any different on other difficulties?  i only played on hard, because except for the stupid shotgunners, everyone was pretty easy lol   the pistol might as well have shot a lazer its so accurate, i got the 75pistol kills and 100headshots pretty early lol

also, stealth kills dont count towards melee kills..  i found that rather odd lol  i didnt get the melee trophy until after i beat the game, i just went into a chapter and farmed it.  i found they died so fast it was hard to get close to them to initiate it lol

and they need to fix the shoulder swap.  there were many many times i needed to switch, and i woul hit it over and over again without it doing it.  it averaged around 8 clicks before it would swap shoulder.
I've only played on normal and they take a load of bullets to kill, stun you when they hit you. Yeah, but there is separate trophies for stealth and melee so it would be stupid if they counted towards both. I haven't had an issue with shoulder swapping at all