General Discussion Thread

[the-pi-guy]

Yeah, alt right got the same treatment as pepe (cry)

Oh I know, its ridiculous.

I saw on Pi's facebook before people talking about 'white pride' and getting upset that white pride is labelled racist while black pride, gay pride, asian pride etc. are progressive and good movements. I can see where they're coming from but its a totally different thing.

Someone reads my facebook?  
Gotta hide those underwear pics now....  

White people in the west have never been opressed and have never faced the issues that these minority groups have. The pride is about them coming together as a minority group and celebrating their survival against all the hate they get. White people are in the majority and are still the most privalaged group of people. I do worry about what this white supremist movement is going to do now. I hope that black people, the LGBT community and others don't lose any rights they've fought for as a result of this.

Maybe someday, everyone can either not have pride or have pride without worrying about anything.  But right now, white pride is just like straight pride.  

You know, it's just so hard to come out straight. /s

It's just downright insensitive to the the people who have to struggle with bigots every day of their life.  

[Xevross]

Someone reads my facebook?  
Gotta hide those underwear pics now....  

Haha well actually it just came up on my news feed    

Maybe someday, everyone can either not have pride or have pride without worrying about anything.  But right now, white pride is just like straight pride.  

You know, it's just so hard to come out straight. /s

It's just downright insensitive to the the people who have to struggle with bigots every day of their life.  

This is what I hope for. I don't think we're too far away from that in the west to be honest. Mnorities are becoming more and more accepted all the time, which is awesome. Our generation is, on the whole, extremely accepting. I think racism, homophobia etc. will mostly die out in the UK quite soon. I would say other countries but I don't know their culture well enough. I'd expect a lot of European countries and Canada to be similar. I would say the US too but the alt right stuff is going against this, and also Trump could fudge it all up.

[the-pi-guy]

Haha well actually it just came up on my news feed    

Doesn't matter, you still read it!  

This is what I hope for. I don't think we're too far away from that in the west to be honest. Mnorities are becoming more and more accepted all the time, which is awesome. Our generation is, on the whole, extremely accepting. I think racism, homophobia etc. will mostly die out in the UK quite soon. I would say other countries but I don't know their culture well enough. I'd expect a lot of European countries and Canada to be similar. I would say the US too but the alt right stuff is going against this, and also Trump could fudge it all up.

I think it'll get better in the next 10 years.  

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

The white natalist movement is tiny. It's over blown. GAf made a big deal about 150 nutjobs gathering in once place. This will trickle out over time. Now that trump has denounced them they'll lose steam.

[Raven]

The white natalist movement is tiny. It's over blown. GAf made a big deal about 150 nutjobs gathering in once place. This will trickle out over time. Now that trump has denounced them they'll lose steam.

"white natalist"..... LOL

[Legend]

Really cool concept and execution.

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

"white natalist"..... LOL

Stfu raven!

[Xevross]

Happy thanksgiving!

[Aura7541]

[the-pi-guy]

Richard Spencer thinks that the reason why Europe and NA is so successful is because white people are better.  He thinks Egyptians are white and that's why they were so successful thousands of years ago....

[Aura7541]

Richard Spencer thinks that the reason why Europe and NA is so successful is because white people are better.  He thinks Egyptians are white and that's why they were so successful thousands of years ago....

Don't know why he thinks skin color is the determining factor between success and failure. Could it be that Europeans and North Americans are more successful because people who happen to be white had better ideas?

[Legend]

Don't know why he thinks skin color is the determining factor between success and failure. Could it be that Europeans and North Americans are more successful because people who happen to be white had better ideas?

Or that we don't really think about the advancements from other people and places?

[the-pi-guy]

Don't know why he thinks skin color is the determining factor between success and failure.

Because he literally thinks black people are dumber, and whites and also asians are smarter.
 He uses IQ evidence to support that, despite the fact that IQ doesn't even tell the full story.
There's things like the flynn effect (that in my opinion throws off comparisons like these.)  Basically the flynn effect shows that IQ's rise.
Let's say your grandparents took an IQ test, and scored 100.  You take an IQ test today and score 100, you would likely score like 130 on your grandparent's IQ test. 

One explanation for this is that people have more experience with these kinds of tests, today than ever before.  So comparing someone in the US who has access to that kind of schooling to someone who has no schooling is basically like comparing someone who has never gone swimming before to someone who swims every day.

These kinds of things (and probably dozens of other factors that I don't even know about) make these kinds of comparisons ridiculous. 
 

Could it be that Europeans and North Americans are more successful because people who happen to be white had better ideas?

I'd argue that it has almost everything to do with resources and culture. 

Resources:
Countries with ample access to water are able to grow crops, settle down, teach kids, etc. 
They are also able to travel and gain other information.

If I remember right, this was attributed to why the US is so successful.  We have like half of the world's river by mileages. 
(Edit: I still can't find anything to suggest this.  I was probably wrong about this, but still, a lot of the most successful cultures in history can thank water. Many of the earliest successful cultures were found in river valleys for a reason.  Egypt - Nile, Indus river valley, etc.)

Culture:
Certain cultures love scientific inquiry.  Jewish culture, and Asian culture increasingly longs for scientific inquiry.  Likely a big reason why the Jewish dominate nobel prizes, despite making up a fraction of a fraction of the world population.

Additionally this is something that Africa basically lost.  Northern (more middle eastern culture) made many advances in the sciences early on and was passed onto Europe. 
This culture is something that really expanded in Europe during the enlightenment period, and so much scientific progress was made during those time periods and the ones after.


And this:

Or that we don't really think about the advancements from other people and places?

is a gigantic part of it as well. 

Any idea how much of history has been whitewashed by Europeans?  Probably way more than we even know.
A lot of scientific progress gets attributed to Europeans even when most of the ground work or maybe even all of it was done by other cultures centuries earlier. 

An indian man in the 14th century laid down many of the foundations for calculus, even utilized Taylor series, but those things we generally give credit to Newton.  Despite the fact, that he wasn't even alive until the 17th century. 

[Legend]

Anyone want a hole?

We're digging a hole.

[the-pi-guy]

Anyone want a hole?

We're digging a hole.

I think this is weird.