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Title: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (113 reviews), 70 MC (54 reviews)
Post by: the-pi-guy on Mar 20, 2017, 02:24 PM
Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/mass-effect-andromeda)  |  OpenCritic (http://opencritic.com/game/1547/mass-effect-andromeda)


LaPS4 - 90/100 (http://www.laps4.com/analisis/433402-analisis_mass_effect_andromeda.html)
cogconnected - 88/100 (http://cogconnected.com/review/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)
IGN Spain - 8.5/10 (http://es.ign.com/mass-effect-andromeda-ps4/116106/review/mass-effect-andromeda-analisis-para-ps4-xbox-one-y-pc)
everyeye - 8.5/10 (http://www.everyeye.it/articoli/recensione-mass-effect-andromeda-32811.html)

Gaming Nexus - 8.8/10 (https://www.gamingnexus.com/Article/5352/Mass-Effect-Andromeda/)

Forbes - 8.5/10 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/games/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review-ps4-every-mans-sky/#120f3ee739f0)

PlayStation Trophies - 8/10 (http://www.playstationtrophies.org/game/mass-effect-andromeda/review/)

The Sixth Axis - 8/10 (http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)
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I found it hard to be excited during the opening hours of Mass Effect: Andromeda. It feels too safe, too much like what's gone before, but then it clicks. There's a moment where the galaxy opens up and you find yourself embarking once more on a huge mission across compelling, beautifully constructed planets, surrounded by memorable characters. Sadly the glut of technical missteps serve to cheapen proceedings, but this is still an adventure you don't want to miss out on.
Game Informer - 8/10 (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/mass_effect_andromeda/b/playstation4/archive/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review-game-informer.aspx)
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When taken as its own journey (and not in comparison to Shepard's saga), Mass Effect: Andromeda is fun, and the important parts work. The narrative isn't astounding, but keeps you invested and drives you forward. The combat is entertaining whether you're in single-player or multiplayer. The crew isn't my favorite, but I like them and they have some good moments. Even with its other problems, these are the largest forces shaping your experience with Mass Effect: Andromeda, and they make it worth playing. At the same time, I was often left looking through a haze of inconveniences and dreaming about the game it could have been.
Critical Hit - 8/10 (http://www.criticalhit.net/review/mass-effect-andromeda/)

PC Gamer - 8/10 (http://www.pcgamer.com/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)

Attack of the Fanboy - 4/5 (http://attackofthefanboy.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)

PlayStation Universe - 8/10 (http://www.psu.com/review/32525/mass-effect-andromeda-review)

RPGFan - 7.8/10 (http://www.rpgfan.com/reviews/Mass_Effect_Andromeda/index.html)

IGN - 7.7/10 (http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review)

Polygon - 7.5/10 (http://www.polygon.com/2017/3/20/14886618/mass-effect-andromeda-review-PS4-Xbox-One-PC)

RPG Site - 7/10 (http://www.rpgsite.net/review/5414-mass-effect-andromeda-review)
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Ryder's tale feels like a solid beginning to something new. It needs more than a little polish, and probably some extensive work under the hood, but Andromeda has reassured me Mass Effect can exist without the Citadel, Earth, Shepard or even Ryder. This new galaxy left me with more questions than answers, but I'm okay with that. I hope another entry to the series means more exploration into every corner of humanity's new home.
Videogamer - 7/10 (https://www.videogamer.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review)

CGMag Online - 7/10 (http://www.cgmagonline.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review-like-expansion/)

GamesRadar+ - 3.5/5 (http://www.gamesradar.com/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)

Hardcore Gamer - 3.5/5 (http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2017/03/20/review-mass-effect-andromeda/251032/)

Destructoid - 6.5/10 (https://www.destructoid.com/review-mass-effect-andromeda-424694.phtml)

PlayStation Lifestyle - 6.5/10 (http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review-finding-paths-ps4/)

USgamer - 6/10 (http://www.usgamer.net/articles/mass-effect-andromeda-review)

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The weak main quest was much on my mind while I was deciding how to score Mass Effect: Andromeda, as were the comparatively shallow mechanics and repetitive enemies. Even the much ballyhooed planets offer comparatively little to discover outside of pretty scenery, resources, and bandit camps (happily, there are so many quests that you rarely notice). The character models and animation, obviously, were a factor as well, though they weren't as noticeably bad in my playthrough as the hype would suggest. The vast, rather beautiful landscapes definitely helped.
Metro - 6/10 (http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review-galaxy-of-issues-6520722/)

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We didn't particularly like any of the characters and interacting with them often comes across like some purposefully silly-looking YouTube skit. Whereas the team behind Andromeda's action and role-playing elements have used the five years since Mass Effect 3 wisely it feels like those working on the script and story have only just woken up from hypersleep themselves, and dashed out this rushed and worryingly flawed game in a matter of weeks, not years.
Gamespot - 6/10 (http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/mass-effect-andromeda-review/1900-6416638/)

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In many ways, Andromeda feels like a vision half-fulfilled. It contains a dizzying amount of content, but the quality fluctuates wildly. Its worlds and combat shine, but its writing and missions falter--and the relative strength of the former is not enough to compensate for the inescapable weakness of the latter. As a Mass Effect game, Andromeda falls well short of the nuanced politics, morality, and storytelling of its predecessors. For me, the series has always been about compelling characters and harrowing choices, so to find such weak writing here is bitterly disappointing. Yet even after 65 hours, I still plan on completing a few more quests. The game can't escape its shortcomings, but patient explorers can still find a few stars shining in the darkness.
The Daily Dot - 3/5 (https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/mass-effect-andromeda-review/?tw=dd)

VentureBeat - 5.5/10 (http://venturebeat.com/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)

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Games have to fit into our lives, and that's not always fair. Mass Effect: Andromeda might've worked a decade ago on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, but it doesn't work in a world that is delivering games like Horizon: Zero Dawn, Nier: Automata, and The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild. In this reality, BioWare's latest role-playing game is old, broken, and often boring. Worst of all, it's going to disappoint fans of the Mass Effect series.
Rock Paper Shotgun - No score (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/20/mass-effect-andromeda-review/)

Eurogamer - No score (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-03-19-mass-effect-andromeda)
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Mar 20, 2017, 02:39 PM
RE7 great
Nioh great
Horizon great
ZElda great
Nier great

ME: Combo breaker!
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Mar 20, 2017, 02:45 PM
RE7 great
Nioh great
Horizon great
ZElda great
Nier great

ME: Combo breaker!
Honestly, who would have thought that Mass Effect would be the first real disappointment of the year? At least we have early word that Persona 5 is amazing.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Aura7541 on Mar 20, 2017, 03:00 PM
Here's ACG's review:
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: ethomaz on Mar 20, 2017, 04:06 PM
Expected? Hell no.

How a quality 80-90 series drops to 75... something bad that didn't happen with previous games happened.

75 is still good but disappointment.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 20, 2017, 04:47 PM
Yeah It's disappointing, but everything I've seen still looks awesome to me and will still likely enjoy it a lot.  I do wish they would have continued on after the events of ME 3.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Mar 20, 2017, 04:57 PM
Holy fudge. How could they fudge this up so badly
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 20, 2017, 05:00 PM

I'll let ya'll know tomorrow whether I think these reviews are full of bull! ;D   Probably won't be since opinions and all.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: BananaKing on Mar 20, 2017, 05:06 PM
I'll let ya'll know tomorrow whether I think these reviews are full of bull! ;D   Probably won't be since opinions and all.
Yeah please do. I'm not wondering if i should wait on this to drop heavily in price or not
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 20, 2017, 05:12 PM
Yeah please do. I'm not wondering if i should wait on this to drop heavily in price or not
Yeah I'm kinda glad I had $15 in ps store money so I got it for $45.   But yeah I'll post impressions tomorrow.  Will likely play a few hours tonight when it unlocks.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Mar 20, 2017, 06:25 PM
Seeing as how I preordered on PSN, I'm pretty much stuck with the game. So I'll also give my opinion as I play.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Mar 20, 2017, 07:39 PM
75 is ok but it's only 4 points above NMS! GULP!
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Mar 20, 2017, 08:49 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/eYs1eRZ.gif)
This game will probably sell great. It's not that bad and it markets itself.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: BananaKing on Mar 20, 2017, 08:52 PM
Why have all the sci-fi games this gen bomb!!
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Mar 20, 2017, 09:50 PM
Why have all the sci-fi games this gen bomb!!
Horizon?

(http://i.imgur.com/eYs1eRZ.gif)
This game will probably sell great. It's not that bad and it markets itself.
Plus it has the mass effect name. Lots of people will just buy it without looking at reviews or the consensus on the internet.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: DerNebel on Mar 20, 2017, 10:01 PM
Btw. guys, there's really no better time to find your inner weeb. ;)

(God these last two weeks of waiting are making me go crazy.)
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Mar 20, 2017, 10:09 PM
Btw. guys, there's really no better time to find your inner weeb. ;)

(God these last two weeks of waiting are making me go crazy.)
I hope they delay again at the last minute for some freak reason.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: DerNebel on Mar 20, 2017, 10:16 PM
I hope they delay again at the last minute for some freak reason.
I hope they cancel the FF VII Remake -.-

Edit: Oh, also after cancelling the game, I hope Nomura Tetsuya visits you personally to kick you in the balls.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: the-pi-guy on Mar 20, 2017, 10:29 PM
I hope they cancel the FF VII Remake -.-

Edit: Oh, also after cancelling the game, I hope Nomura Tetsuya visits you personally to kick you in the balls.
*After rubbing him down and leaves him with blue balls.  
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: ethomaz on Mar 20, 2017, 10:33 PM
I hope they cancel the FF VII Remake -.-
I hope too :)
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Mar 20, 2017, 10:45 PM
It has only one 90 so far (30+ reviews) and nothing above that.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Mar 21, 2017, 01:39 AM
I hope they cancel the FF VII Remake -.-

Edit: Oh, also after cancelling the game, I hope Nomura Tetsuya visits you personally to kick you in the balls.
You're a monster.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 02:27 AM
1 and half more hours till unlock!! GUESS WHO STILL HYPED!!  8)
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Mar 21, 2017, 02:35 AM
1 and half more hours till unlock!! GUESS WHO STILL HYPED!!  8)
I'm crossing my fingers that this is one of those times where I very much disagree with the critical response. That happens rarely but it has happened.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Mar 21, 2017, 02:35 AM
1 and half more hours till unlock!! GUESS WHO STILL HYPED!!  8)
I hope you enjoy it :D
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 03:07 AM
I'm crossing my fingers that this is one of those times where I very much disagree with the critical response. That happens rarely but it has happened.
I think I definitely will disagree. I usually disagree a lot with reviewers.

I hope you enjoy it :D
I'm sure I will!!  ;D

Boom!! Let's do this!  Already loving the music on the menu screen!
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 06:07 AM
So far so good!!  Combat is pretty great.  Jet boost is fluid and I haven't noticed any massive frame drops, but i'm on ps4 pro.  Game is gorgeous though!  Not as good as horizon, but it's great.  Are some weird low res stuff here and there, but nothing really noticeable.  Only problem I've really seen is the weird lip movement in dialogue, but I'm sure I'll get used to it.  

Gonna call it and play more tomorrow sometime.  May not be till late at night again.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Kerotan on Mar 21, 2017, 06:32 AM
Not as high as expected but not a terrible game either.  Pity it could get 80+ average.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: BananaKing on Mar 21, 2017, 08:54 AM
Horizon?
Plus it has the mass effect name. Lots of people will just buy it without looking at reviews or the consensus on the internet.
i meant space sci-fi. and i was talking about meta score.

Destiny, No Mans Sky, Killzone and Now Mass Effect have all did under expectations.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Mar 21, 2017, 12:04 PM
i meant space sci-fi. and i was talking about meta score.

Destiny, No Mans Sky, Killzone and Now Mass Effect have all did under expectations.
Ah yes. Space sci fi has been quite disappointing. Hopefully Destiny 2 can change that
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Mar 21, 2017, 12:18 PM
 Mass Effect Andromeda's poor handling of LGBT - NeoGAF (http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1354052&page=1)

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Yes, another Andromeda thread, but I feel it's about issues worth discussing, since BioWare usually tries to tackle LGBT issues to some degree in their games. However, there might possibly be multiple problematic showings about how the LGBT are handled in their newest Mass Effect game. Obviously the game is releasing only just now, so all of the information in the OP might be different in the actual proper game, although this seems unlikely. Note: Very Light Andromeda spoilers (one achievement with no story spoilers) will follow. --- So, Mass Effect Andromeda has a trophy/achievement called "The Matchmaker - Complete Romances with three different characters across all playthroughs". If you don't do these trophy/achievement, you basically won't be able to 100% of the game. The crux of the problem with this achievement is that it seems the game has a very varied number of romance options for characters with different orientations. Gaffer Harlequin notes on the issue:
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
  (http://vizioneck.com/forum/showthread.php?p=232446965#post232446965)
 

 
 So according to the official guide and reviewers, some of the datamining was incorrect. Gay Scott only gets two romance options as opposed to straight Scott's five, gay Sara's four and straight Sara's three, neither of which are squadmates and neither of which have unique faces (just character creator ones). This also means that people playing as gay Scott won't be able to get the romance trophy/achievement without turning him bi. Good job, BW, good job...(http://i.imgur.com/kCNDpEX.jpg)

 
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
  (http://vizioneck.com/forum/showthread.php?p=232448761#post232448761)
 

 
 The problem isn't just the achievement, it's the picture you get when you put all of those things together. I mean, of course, straight guys will get more options, I was never expecting them not to, but there are so many things that just scream half-arsed afterthought and "gays  are second-class citizens" here. We've got less than half the number of options that straight guys have, we don't have any squadmate option (who get significantly more exposition, dialogue, etc. than non-suadmates), we don't have any option with a unique face, all of the gay male naughtiness scenes are apparently fade-to-black whereas quite a few of the others are fully animated and include nudity and they put an achievement in the game that everyone but gay males can get without switching to a different gender or orientation (which in and of itself wouldn't be a problem but the fact that only gay men are forced to do it makes it one).

 
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Originally Posted by Harlequin
  (http://vizioneck.com/forum/showthread.php?p=232450531#post232450531)
 

 
 I've already explained that it's not about the achievement specifically, it's about a bunch of little things which wouldn't be much of a problem on their own but paint the picture of all the gay male content being a half-arsed afterthought when put together.

 
This information has not been verified, so I'm not treating it as an absolute fact. I haven't played Andromeda myself, either. But if it is true, this is quite a weird oversight from BioWare's part, because it basically means that if a player wants to roleplay exclusively gay male protagonist (or is a gay male themselves, and wants their character to reflect that), it will be impossible to 100% the game without also romancing a female character at some point, turning their character to bi in the process. Noting that due to the nature of the Asari in this game, this could be potentially circled around by romancing an Asari. It's also worrisome that the romance options for the Gay Male Ryder are not even squadmates, and more minor characters instead.  The problem isn't solely about the Achievement either, it's that the gay representation in general seems to be quite problematic (fade-to-black naughtiness scenes, etc.)So why is it problematic? Well, imagine it the other way around. The players who would want to play as solely straight male Ryder wouldn't be able to Platinum Andromeda without a play-through where they have to romance another man. There would most likely be lot of outrage about forcing players to choose a gay male option if they want to platinum the game. It makes gay male Ryder players feel like second-class citizens, if this information is true. And it's such a weird oversight from BioWare's part. --- Sadly, this doesn't seem to be the only problem the game has with LGBT representation.  The game has a transgender character introduced, but is then handled rather poorly:
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7XPeGWXQAE7U98.jpg)

 
The character, when asked why they went to Andromeda, quickly seems to deadname themselves. Deadnaming in general is usually seen as a form of transphobia:
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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/164357829447254017/293536945504518147/unknown.png)

 
The Character can be seen in the Giant Bomb Quick Look, for instance. ---  The game is only releasing right now, so we don't know for sure what extenct BioWare has went for LGBT representation. But the signs seen so far seem to be rather worrysome, especially after Dragon Age games and even Mass Effect 3, that had a gay squadmate option. //Edit: Added more post quotes from Harlequin for context.
 
Okay, what the fudge? Bioware has gone from being amazing leaders in LGBT representation to seemingly only shoving it in the game because fans expect it now. This is really upsetting.

EA is never getting my money for this game. I dodged a bullet
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: BananaKing on Mar 21, 2017, 12:21 PM
Ah yes. Space sci fi has been quite disappointing. Hopefully Destiny 2 can change that
yeah after Destiny 1 im waiting at least a year for the "Full edition". those DLC packs are a scam.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 03:24 PM
I will say that the game is not making me itch to play like Horizon did.  I don't think any game will till TLOU 2.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Mar 21, 2017, 04:24 PM
I will say that the game is not making me itch to play like Horizon did.  I don't think any game will till TLOU 2.

Same here. I'm not getting that overwhelming desire to run home and play more. The combat just does not feel satisfying. I understand it's early and things get more interesting later, but after playing Horizon, Nier, and even FF15, this game just lacks weight and satisfying results in its early combat. It feels like playing whack-a-mole with a laser pointer.

Visuals are all over the dang place. In some moments they are brilliant. In others I just can't help but wonder how they managed to screw up that badly. So many faces are not just devoid of emotion but for crud's sake the lack of certain textures compared to my character makes me feel like I'm a lone human in a universe full of Barbie and Ken dolls.

The banter between me and my squadmates is awesome and I'm liking the more important characters. However, the overall writing so far just leaves me stunned. Not in a good way. I can't say anything without spoiling but I will give one example. It's shoddy writing to force a situation to be even more dramatic by making highly intelligent people be incredibly wasteful of resources long before they knew more were on the way and when they already discovered trouble.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 04:42 PM
Same here. I'm not getting that overwhelming desire to run home and play more. The combat just does not feel satisfying. I understand it's early and things get more interesting later, but after playing Horizon, Nier, and even FF15, this game just lacks weight and satisfying results in its early combat. It feels like playing whack-a-mole with a laser pointer.

Visuals are all over the dang place. In some moments they are brilliant. In others I just can't help but wonder how they managed to screw up that badly. So many faces are not just devoid of emotion but for crud's sake the lack of certain textures compared to my character makes me feel like I'm a lone human in a universe full of Barbie and Ken dolls.

The banter between me and my squadmates is awesome and I'm liking the more important characters. However, the overall writing so far just leaves me stunned. Not in a good way. I can't say anything without spoiling but I will give one example. It's shoddy writing to force a situation to be even more dramatic by making highly intelligent people be incredibly wasteful of resources long before they knew more were on the way and when they already discovered trouble.
The combat is very mass effecty though, at least I think so.  So that's great and with the added jet boost I like it even better.  But yeah horizon is league above in combat.  I agree with the graphics.  Everything in the ark and nexus looks off for some reason.  The first planet looks great though. Some of the skin on some NPC's look devoid of any sort of extra detail and specular.  Some just look like flat diffuse faces. I'm not far and just got to the nexus so not sure if I've been through the part in the story you are talking about.  So far I'm intrigued by the new aliens and the tech.  We shall see once i get farther.  

I do think if you like Mass Effect you will like the game.  I just wish it didn't go towards the open world environments and was more like ME 2 and 3.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 06:07 PM
Alright now we are getting somewhere now that I'm controlling the Tempest!!  This is the mass effect i loved!  Tempest is awesome!
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: BananaKing on Mar 21, 2017, 06:39 PM
Alright now we are getting somewhere now that I'm controlling the Tempest!!  This is the mass effect i loved!  Tempest is awesome!
So now that you got it, how does fair?
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Mar 21, 2017, 06:58 PM
Mass Effect Andromeda's poor handling of LGBT - NeoGAF (http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1354052&page=1)
This information has not been verified, so I'm not treating it as an absolute fact. I haven't played Andromeda myself, either. But if it is true, this is quite a weird oversight from BioWare's part, because it basically means that if a player wants to roleplay exclusively gay male protagonist (or is a gay male themselves, and wants their character to reflect that), it will be impossible to 100% the game without also romancing a female character at some point, turning their character to bi in the process. Noting that due to the nature of the Asari in this game, this could be potentially circled around by romancing an Asari. It's also worrisome that the romance options for the Gay Male Ryder are not even squadmates, and more minor characters instead.  The problem isn't solely about the Achievement either, it's that the gay representation in general seems to be quite problematic (fade-to-black naughtiness scenes, etc.)So why is it problematic? Well, imagine it the other way around. The players who would want to play as solely straight male Ryder wouldn't be able to Platinum Andromeda without a play-through where they have to romance another man. There would most likely be lot of outrage about forcing players to choose a gay male option if they want to platinum the game. It makes gay male Ryder players feel like second-class citizens, if this information is true. And it's such a weird oversight from BioWare's part. --- Sadly, this doesn't seem to be the only problem the game has with LGBT representation.  The game has a transgender character introduced, but is then handled rather poorly: The character, when asked why they went to Andromeda, quickly seems to deadname themselves. Deadnaming in general is usually seen as a form of transphobia:The Character can be seen in the Giant Bomb Quick Look, for instance. ---  The game is only releasing right now, so we don't know for sure what extenct BioWare has went for LGBT representation. But the signs seen so far seem to be rather worrysome, especially after Dragon Age games and even Mass Effect 3, that had a gay squadmate option. //Edit: Added more post quotes from Harlequin for context.
 

Okay, what the fudge? Bioware has gone from being amazing leaders in LGBT representation to seemingly only shoving it in the game because fans expect it now. This is really upsetting.

EA is never getting my money for this game. I dodged a bullet
With all the other downgrades compared to past games, it's not suprising they dropped the ball there too.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Mar 21, 2017, 07:43 PM
With all the other downgrades compared to past games, it's not suprising they dropped the ball there too.
You're right. Its just this bit is especially disappointing to me
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 07:52 PM
So now that you got it, how does fair?
The tempest itself is awesome.  So much more interesting than the normandy and everything is accessible without having to us an elevator.  The windows in the bridge to see the actual area of Helius you are in is probably one of the coolest things they have added.  Galaxy map is super cool and sleek.   Also just got the nomad too, which is amazing to control.  It feels weighty yet light and adding in the six wheel controls is pretty cool, but haven't done much exploring with it.   Scanning planets and anomalies is back a lot like ME2, but it's pulled back a bit with most scanning done on the planets you can explore.

Now for the game as a whole.  It's not doing anything new at all. It's mass effect at its core for sure.  Sure they might have dropped the ball on some things, but at least for me it's not a big deal.  Understandable for some others though.   It's not looking to be anything spectacular story wise, but I can easily say the alien technology they come across is super intriguing and is what is driving me to move forward the most.  And to learn more about the new alien races.   Combat is pretty amazing for Mass Effect.  The ability to change profiles anytime opens up so much more possibilities and the reason they added that is actually explained and is not just shoehorned in just because.  Jet boost is so good and one of the best additions to mobility and combat.  Other than that I'm not far enough in to give much more impressions.   I'm 5 hours in and only 11% completion.

You're right. Its just this bit is especially disappointing to me
So the problem is that they don't allow a male ryder to romance any of the male squad mates? Only secondary NPC's?
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 08:00 PM
@Xevross ,

Couple posts saying that someone that worked on the game is saying it's a bug and will be looked into.  Now if thats true who knows, but maybe they will sort it out.



I'm not seeing the tweet they are talking about so who knows.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Mar 21, 2017, 08:49 PM
So the problem is that they don't allow a male ryder to romance any of the male squad mates? Only secondary NPC's?
Yep, and the problem is what this means. They don't get any detailed scenes or special missions, so it doesn't mean as much.
@Xevross ,

Couple posts saying that someone that worked on the game is saying it's a bug and will be looked into.  Now if thats true who knows, but maybe they will sort it out.



I'm not seeing the tweet they are talking about so who knows.
I hope it is a bug, because it'd be so upsetting for them to have gone from Dragon Age Inquisition to this.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 21, 2017, 10:22 PM
Yep, and the problem is what this means. They don't get any detailed scenes or special missions, so it doesn't mean as much.I hope it is a bug, because it'd be so upsetting for them to have gone from Dragon Age Inquisition to this.
Hmm, that's crazy really.   Yeah the fact Liam is not romance-able by either male or female ryder is also kind of weird too.  Cause even in ME3, maybe ME2 as well, wasn't jacob able to be romanced by male or female shepard?  Liam really is the only major male squadmate so it's weird they don't have it both ways.

Here looks like Bioware was having some meetings on the issue.  Hopefully thats true though and they want to fix it.

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 Yeah, but everyone says stupid shame once in a while. They offered an apology so let's meet them halfway and accept it. On an unrelated note, the game's lead designer claims on Twitter that he's had a meeting about the M/M romance issues. Not entirely sure if I'm buying it but if it's true (and if they talked about more than just lowering the requirement for the achievement to two romances LOL), then that seems like a good first step at least. (Of course, this never should've even been an issue in the first place but it'd still be appreciated if they somehow managed to make it up to all the gay Scott players.)https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/844302426685558784

 
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Now we have to get them to make a statement and suggest they fix this and add the need/wanted content.
 
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Mar 21, 2017, 11:42 PM
Well that's promising but I'm not going to get me hopes up about anything. I'll just wait and see
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 22, 2017, 01:03 AM
Well that's promising but I'm not going to get me hopes up about anything. I'll just wait and see
Yeah it could just be nothing but them trying to make a statement on the issue and nothing else.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: ethomaz on Mar 22, 2017, 11:20 AM
Looks like the issue is bigger because there is a trophy that you can't get if you choose a male character or something like that.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Mar 22, 2017, 11:34 AM
Looks like the issue is bigger because there is a trophy that you can't get if you choose a male character or something like that.
The trophy is for romancing three characters but there's only two male options for make Ryder, while all other genders and orientations have at least 3. That by itself doesn't really bother me, it's only a trophy.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 22, 2017, 11:11 PM
There is definitely a lot of busy work in this game.  They sure didn't learn from DA: I.  Lucky for me I liked a lot of the content in Inquisition and i'm liking most in Andromeda.

They did learn on collectables though as far as I can tell.  Not really seeing many and there isn't any trophies for any either.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Mar 24, 2017, 07:38 PM
So nnodley, is 75 justified or not?
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 75 OC (48 reviews), 75 MC (28 reviews)
Post by: Aura7541 on Mar 24, 2017, 07:45 PM
So nnodley, is 75 justified or not?
Well... it's now a 74.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 24, 2017, 10:09 PM
So nnodley, is 75 justified or not?
Hmm it's tough to say.  It's definitely not as good as ME 1-3, but I am super intrigued by all the new remnant stuff and the new aliens.  The planets you get to go to are pretty great.  Combat is by far my favorite of the series.  It's super fluid despite some frame drops i've noticed.   However the dragon age inquisition busy work is back in Andromeda.  I'm liking most of the quests though so it's not been a big deal so far.

At this time I'd give it an 8.5ish.  I haven't really noticed but a few graphical glitches or animation glitches.  Yeah the animations are awkward at time, but they are not the worst I've seen.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 28, 2017, 12:39 AM
The busy work in this game is really getting somewhat annoying after 30 hours.  Most of it is decent stuff, but my lord right now on a single planet I have over 10 missions opened up.  Sometimes it is overwhelming what I want to do.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: Aura7541 on Mar 28, 2017, 04:54 PM
I think this video is worth sharing. The dude goes through what he thinks is wrong with the facial animations without making fun of the game.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 28, 2017, 10:10 PM
I'm still just 36% complete over 35 hours.  This game has so much stuff and not in the best way either.  I'd still keep it at an 8.5 so far.  The only thing keeping it from being better is having less busy work.  
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: BananaKing on Mar 28, 2017, 10:47 PM
I'm still just 36% complete over 35 hours.  This game has so much stuff and not in the best way either.  I'd still keep it at an 8.5 so far.  The only thing keeping it from being better is having less busy work.  
Is the "busy work" good? Is it bad? Is it necessary?
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 28, 2017, 11:01 PM
Is the "busy work" good? Is it bad? Is it necessary?
I would say it's a pretty even split between good and bad.  Most of the good ones pertain to stuff like the new aliens or crew missions or remnant.  The vast majority of the bad/worse ones are definitely not necessary.  You might randomly be roaming on a planet and come up on a few side missions or tasks that really have nothing to do with the story at all and are just random fetch quests.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: BananaKing on Mar 28, 2017, 11:04 PM
I would say it's a pretty even split between good and bad.  Most of the good ones pertain to stuff like the new aliens or crew missions or remnant.  The vast majority of the bad/worse ones are definitely not necessary.  You might randomly be roaming on a planet and come up on a few side missions or tasks that really have nothing to do with the story at all and are just random fetch quests.
Eh that's not so bad. If it isn't crucial to progression in any way then it's not something I can hold against the game.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Mar 28, 2017, 11:16 PM
Eh that's not so bad. If it isn't crucial to progression in any way then it's not something I can hold against the game.
yeah most are skippable, but the more you do the more viability points you get and higher viability percentage you get for each planet.  There are more than enough to get all planets to 100% easily.  Couple things can add up to 40% viability.   I think they just went overboard a little bit on them, but I do like most of them I've played so far.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (73 reviews), 74 MC (41 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Apr 01, 2017, 08:43 PM
Down to 73 on Meta.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Apr 01, 2017, 09:10 PM
Down to 73 on Meta.
I'm shocked metacritic only has 45 reviews. It could keep dropping.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: DerNebel on Apr 01, 2017, 09:19 PM
So when will I be awarded for winning my bet? Btw. you could give me a bonus for getting the Persona 5 score right as well. *smugly self-satisfied"  ;D

(dang, I wanna play P5 already)
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Apr 01, 2017, 09:25 PM
So when will I be awarded for winning my bet? Btw. you could give me a bonus for getting the Persona 5 score right as well. *smugly self-satisfied"  ;D

(dang, I wanna play P5 already)
Did I not already pay you?
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Apr 01, 2017, 09:38 PM
I still personally think it's on the low side.  This game is not 9/10, but it's easily 8/10 or a little more.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: DerNebel on Apr 01, 2017, 09:39 PM
Did I not already pay you?
Uh...maybe? Do you get a notification when you're paid? Otherwise I wouldn't notice.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Apr 01, 2017, 09:45 PM
Uh...maybe? Do you get a notification when you're paid? Otherwise I wouldn't notice.
No notification. Currently I just have to go into the database and adjust bank values.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: DerNebel on Apr 01, 2017, 09:51 PM
No notification. Currently I just have to go into the database and adjust bank values.
Oh, ok. Then I maybe already got it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Apr 01, 2017, 10:12 PM
Oh, ok. Then I maybe already got it.
I went and checked. I hadn't yet.

Congrats you're rich now!
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Apr 01, 2017, 10:17 PM
I still personally think it's on the low side.  This game is not 9/10, but it's easily 8/10 or a little more.
I haven't picked the game up since the second outpost I created a little while ago. I just cannot get into this game. There's too much dang busy work that doesn't amount to much. The crafting system has too many options for its own good. The combat just doesn't satisfy me. I've never been satisfied by the combat in Mass Effect but I was okay with that because to me it always felt like the work I had to put in to get to the next cool story moment or interaction with my favorite characters. In this case, I'm working to get to the story points that just aren't cool enough and none of the characters have really intrigued me. It doesn't help that none of the female characters my guy can romance are that attractive to begin with and their personalities aren't doing anything for me. Overall, I just can't help but agree with the reviews of this game. That's even leaving out the strange animations and bad visual choices.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Apr 02, 2017, 01:35 AM
I haven't picked the game up since the second outpost I created a little while ago. I just cannot get into this game. There's too much dang busy work that doesn't amount to much. The crafting system has too many options for its own good. The combat just doesn't satisfy me. I've never been satisfied by the combat in Mass Effect but I was okay with that because to me it always felt like the work I had to put in to get to the next cool story moment or interaction with my favorite characters. In this case, I'm working to get to the story points that just aren't cool enough and none of the characters have really intrigued me. It doesn't help that none of the female characters my guy can romance are that attractive to begin with and their personalities aren't doing anything for me. Overall, I just can't help but agree with the reviews of this game. That's even leaving out the strange animations and bad visual choices.
The crew got a lot better and I like them a lot the farther I got in the game.  I do agree with the busy work.  It's mostly just random BS, but there are quite a few later on that I really liked and all the crew loyalty missions have been awesome so far.   Combat is by far my favorite of any mass effect.  The crafting is odd in this game, because a lot of the stuff you can craft you might just randomly find throughout the game so they made it not necessary most of the time.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 74 OC (87 reviews), 73 MC (45 reviews)
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Apr 04, 2017, 02:03 PM
Holy shame, it's down to 71
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (94 reviews), 71 MC (50 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Apr 04, 2017, 02:11 PM
Holy shame, it's down to 71
At this rate it'll end in the 60s. wowza EA better reveal something awesome today.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (94 reviews), 71 MC (50 reviews)
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Apr 04, 2017, 02:12 PM
I think it's mostly because of the 2/5 from giantbomb
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (94 reviews), 71 MC (50 reviews)
Post by: Xevross on Apr 04, 2017, 02:58 PM
Holy shame, it's down to 71
Oh wow that's really bad. It does sound like a 7/10 game on the whole from what I've read though. Hopefully they can fix the bus at least.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (94 reviews), 71 MC (50 reviews)
Post by: ethomaz on Apr 06, 2017, 11:59 AM
It is weird they did a ME:A article but forget FFXV did the same with even more unfinished issues.

Mass Effect: Andromeda becomes an early access game after launch - Polygon (http://www.polygon.com/2017/4/5/15190250/mass-effect-andromeda-patches-animation-early-access)
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (94 reviews), 71 MC (50 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Apr 06, 2017, 12:13 PM
It is weird they did a ME:A article but forget FFXV did the same with even more unfinished issues.

Mass Effect: Andromeda becomes an early access game after launch - Polygon (http://www.polygon.com/2017/4/5/15190250/mass-effect-andromeda-patches-animation-early-access)
I found FF15 more enjoyable to play. However unfinished people want to declare it. A lot of people probably feel the same. Which would explain why FF15 seems to get a pass where ME:A does not. The less fun a game is to someone, the more glaring the issues seem. Horizon had some issues that really bothered me when I thought about them. But, I was usually too busy marveling at the visuals or having too much fun stalking machines to think about those issues for long.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (100 reviews), 71 MC (53 reviews)
Post by: Raven on Apr 09, 2017, 03:08 AM
Down to 70 on MC.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (113 reviews), 70 MC (54 reviews)
Post by: Legend on Apr 09, 2017, 03:37 AM
69 here we come.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (113 reviews), 70 MC (54 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Apr 09, 2017, 04:05 AM
Seriously despite it's flaws this game is no where near a 70, imo.  Let alone hitting anything in the 60s.  Game was amazing towards the end.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (113 reviews), 70 MC (54 reviews)
Post by: BananaKing on Apr 09, 2017, 07:39 AM
Seriously despite it's flaws this game is no where near a 70, imo.  Let alone hitting anything in the 60s.  Game was amazing towards the end.
to hate this game is cool now. so people seem to be doing it. ill be waiting till the price drops to get it.

hopefully this makes EA and Bioware look at all the flaws this game has, and make sure to fix them in the next one.
Title: Re: Mass Effect Andromeda Review Thread 73 OC (113 reviews), 70 MC (54 reviews)
Post by: nnodley on Apr 09, 2017, 02:59 PM
to hate this game is cool now. so people seem to be doing it. ill be waiting till the price drops to get it.

hopefully this makes EA and Bioware look at all the flaws this game has, and make sure to fix them in the next one.
The thought of how awesome a sequel could be based off of some of the stuff at the end makes me hope they do make sure they fix it and then move on using those fixes into something even better.  

I do think there was some laziness to this game though.  They fixed the dead eyes and made them drastically better in 2 weeks time after release.  They couldn't do that in 5 years of development.  Just reeks of laziness and thinking they could get away with what they had.