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DerNebel

Quote from: Raven on Feb 01, 2017, 06:49 PMAs Aura said, what feminism was and what it's been turning into are two different things. And, as Rags pointed out, egalitarianism makes feminism pointless if what you're honestly aiming for is equality between the genders/sexes. Thus feminism really has no place but to be a movement that empowers females at the expense of males and attempts to create an uneven situation to their benefit.
That or most people simply aren't as pedantic when it comes to their terminology and just stick to the word that they've come to know to stand for the movement of gender equality. Just like many atheists probably have a mindset that's actually closer to agnosticism but still call themselves atheists.

kitler53

when i come on these forums i see a bunch of boys that don't even want to try and empathize with how our society treats women differently than men on the negative consequences that it can have on them.  you've all latched on the the worst examples you can find and use it to dismiss everything feminism.


my daughter is only 6 months old and the ways people treat her are already staggeringly different than my son.  the criticisms based on her looks that my son never received.  the toys people gift that are always pink.  

i see in my work the most productive member of my team was a women and she also make the least money.  the least productive is a man and he makes the most.  the women (foolishly) believes in merit based pay and the man is loud, obnoxious, but most importantly demanding.   ...and because he is demanding he has demanded his way to higher pay while the women waited for recognition that never came.

worst yet, she was sexually assaulted at work by one of my coworkers who was "just being funny".  i watched at our local leadership and remote HR do everything in their power to not let it become an "incident".  i watched her try and work uncomfortably by avoiding direct contact with the guy who touched her.  i watched her quit over the incident.  i now i'm watching the guy who assaulted her reap i the benefits of her departure as takes over her important responsibilities while delegating out the ones he didn't want.


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Raven

Quote from: DerNebel on Feb 01, 2017, 07:17 PMThat or most people simply aren't as pedantic when it comes to their terminology and just stick to the word that they've come to know to stand for the movement of gender equality. Just like many atheists probably have a mindset that's actually closer to agnosticism but still call themselves atheists.
It's not pedantic to point out that this particular brand of feminism that has grown off of what feminism was breaks with the ideals. That at this point it might just be better to run with "egalitarian" than "feminist" because of the increasingly negative connotation thanks to those taking feminism in directions it was never meant for. It helps that egalitarianism covers a wider range than what feminism does.

Quote from: kitler53 on Feb 01, 2017, 07:23 PMwhen i come on these forums i see a bunch of boys that don't even want to try and empathize with how our society treats women differently than men on the negative consequences that it can have on them.  you've all latched on the the worst examples you can find and use it to dismiss everything feminism.


my daughter is only 6 months old and the ways people treat her are already staggeringly different than my son.  the criticisms based on her looks that my son never received.  the toys people gift that are always pink.  

i see in my work the most productive member of my team was a women and she also make the least money.  the least productive is a man and he makes the most.  the women (foolishly) believes in merit based pay and the man is loud, obnoxious, but most importantly demanding.   ...and because he is demanding he has demanded his way to higher pay while the women waited for recognition that never came.

worst yet, she was sexually assaulted at work by one of my coworkers who was "just being funny".  i watched at our local leadership and remote HR do everything in their power to not let it become an "incident".  i watched her try and work uncomfortably by avoiding direct contact with the guy who touched her.  i watched her quit over the incident.  i now i'm watching the guy who assaulted her reap i the benefits of her departure as takes over her important responsibilities while delegating out the ones he didn't want.


things are still very much a man's world.  
First of all, leave your little insults at the door. I believe you've already been warned. To the point, no one here lacks empathy to the struggles of women. I have a sister, a mother, and plenty of female friends. I understand quite well the struggles as I'm sure virtually everyone here does. What I refuse to empathize with is the brand of feminism that seeks to subvert everything around it to create one giant safe space.

Aura7541

Quote from: Raven on Feb 01, 2017, 07:57 PMIt's not pedantic to point out that this particular brand of feminism that has grown off of what feminism was breaks with the ideals. That at this point it might just be better to run with "egalitarian" than "feminist" because of the increasingly negative connotation thanks to those taking feminism in directions it was never meant for. It helps that egalitarianism covers a wider range than what feminism does.
It's more of 'actions speak louder than words'. 3rd wave feminists like to bring up the dictionary definition of feminism, but their actions absolutely contradict that.

A very good example of how egalitarians and feminists act differently is The Amazing Atheist's fund raiser for helping women in 3rd world countries vs Anita Sarkeesian asking for $200,000 for so-called 'post-production' of her Ordinary Women videos that she already finished.

DerNebel

Quote from: Raven on Feb 01, 2017, 07:57 PMIt's not pedantic to point out that this particular brand of feminism that has grown off of what feminism was breaks with the ideals. That at this point it might just be better to run with "egalitarian" than "feminist" because of the increasingly negative connotation thanks to those taking feminism in directions it was never meant for. It helps that egalitarianism covers a wider range than what feminism does.
He doesn't point anything like that out though, instead he says "being a feminist is a problem, isn't it?" and "feminism corrupts everything it touches". He seems completely convinced of this idea that these lunatics represent what feminism today is, but there's still a huge difference the tumblr "activist" and what the real world considers a normal feminist.

Seriously all these people that use dumb phrases like patriarchy, mansplaining, cis, SJWs, feminazis etc. just need to get away from the internet more, cause that shame is clearly corrupting their perception of what feminism is for most people that identify as feminist.

Raven

Quote from: DerNebel on Feb 01, 2017, 09:59 PMHe doesn't point anything like that out though, instead he says "being a feminist is a problem, isn't it?" and "feminism corrupts everything it touches". He seems completely convinced of this idea that these lunatics represent what feminism today is, but there's still a huge difference the tumblr "activist" and what the real world considers a normal feminist.

Seriously all these people that use dumb phrases like patriarchy, mansplaining, cis, SJWs, feminazis etc. just need to get away from the internet more, cause that shame is clearly corrupting their perception of what feminism is for most people that identify as feminist.
I will agree that he really should clarify whether he's talking about feminism in general or third wave feminism that is rampant online, in certain college campuses, and maybe a couple cities. Based on his previous videos and the kind of person he has come off to me as, I'm inclined to believe the latter. I don't think he believes that all feminists are like the ones he's pointing out in this video. Though I think his insistence on calling yourself egalitarian instead of feminist is his way of saying that the moderate feminists should separate themselves from the radicals by doing so. I just think he's very passionate about his hobby and tries to combat the battleship surrounding it. Though obviously I can't speak for him. Still, I agree with his points for the most part.

EA "Committed" to the Relationship With Respawn Despite Lower than Expected Titanfall 2 Sales

Well, yeah. You probably should. For one, you iced them by releasing Titanfall 2 in the same dang timeframe as Battlefield and Call of Duty. The post-release engagement of the first game should have been a big clue that this franchise currently cannot hang with the big boys. It needs its own space to breathe. You effectively smothered it.

Also, of course you're going to stick with them for now. You're balls deep in a Star Wars project with them. You KNOW the chances of that NOT making money are fudgy slim. Jesus EA, don't try so hard to sound like the good guys.

Raven


Legend


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Quote from: Legend on Feb 08, 2017, 06:13 PM
"Game can't be a failure if there are no game to fail. "
-Certain game studios.


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DerNebel


Xevross

Quote from: Legend on Feb 09, 2017, 05:11 PMI'm shocked!
Shocked!
Quote from: DerNebel on Feb 09, 2017, 05:12 PMIt's kinda shocking that it's not even out before E3.
Yeah I guess it is, considering they spent so long on it last E3.

DerNebel

For some reason I mixed up my quarters, the next fiscal year is 04.17 to 03.18

Xevross

Quote from: DerNebel on Feb 09, 2017, 07:20 PMFor some reason I mixed up my quarters, the next fiscal year is 04.17 to 03.18
So it could come out before e3 then