Peace with North Korea

Started by Legend, Apr 27, 2018, 02:55 PM

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Legend

Seems like this needs its own thread even though I'm not that informed on the situation.


North and South Korean leaders hold historic summit: Highlights

Xevross

I'm wondering why NK are doing this now, but its still good to see.

the-pi-guy

I'm wondering why NK are doing this now, but its still good to see.
2 reasons:
First, it seems likely that NK is unable to test anymore weapons.  North Korea nuclear test site has collapsed and may be out of action – China study | World news | The Guardian

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North Korea's main nuclear test site has partially collapsed under the stress of multiple explosions, possibly rendering it unsafe for further testing and leaving it vulnerable to radiation leaks, a study by Chinese geologists has shown.

The findings could cast doubt on North Korea's sincerity in announcing last weekend that it would stop testing nuclear weapons at the site ahead of Friday's summit between the country's leader, Kim Jong-un, and the South Korean president, Moon Jae-in.
Second, NK has finally found themselves with enough power to be at the big boys table.  

darkknightkryta

I'm wondering why NK are doing this now, but its still good to see.
Maybe they're actually out of resources now.

Mmm_fish_tacos


the-pi-guy

May 03, 2018, 08:43 PM Last Edit: May 03, 2018, 08:46 PM by the-pi-guy
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North Korea is following Mao's playbook. Mao developed nuclear missiles under sanctions from both the US and the Soviet Union. Then cashed in those chips to make a deal with Nixon.

What nuclear weapons did for China is to create leverage for negotiating with the US as equals. Before having nuclear weapons, there was no basis for negotiations since the American side did not consider China an equal. If you look at how the US approached diplomacy with North Korea before they developed credible nuclear missiles, it was the same exact routine. The US refused to even sit down and talk because it would legitimize North Korea as a diplomatic equal. If you look at the difference in how the US treats countries like Syria and Iraq vs North Korea, you quickly realize how much leverage nuclear weapons give. The US approach to Syria and Iraq is ultimatum and bombs. The US approach to North Korea is sit down and talk.

What nuclear missiles did for North Korea is that it gave them leverage to talk as equals with the US. I always knew this day would come once they have developed a credible nuclear missile. NK had no intention to use their nukes from the start, it is purely a diplomatic tool. If you read about what KJU has been doing in NK, it is clear that he wants to develop the country. In order to develop the country, he needs to cut military funding. In order to not get bombed by the US while cutting military funding, he needs nuclear weapons and a negotiated peace treaty.

His play book is basically an exact repeat of what China did from 1960-1980. First nukes, then negotiations, then cut military funding and open up.
Why is North Korea suddenly being cooperative? Is Trump's hard stance with sanctions and MAD actually working? - Quora

Legend


the-pi-guy

I just can't see reunification happening.
But I'm optimistic that things will improve in NK.