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I figure it might be a good idea to have a real place to put conversations about televisions in.  

@yo pez tell us about your C1.

I found a 4k hdr tv to use for development. It's nothing fancy.

There's been a few things I've been wanting to talk about with regards to TVs.  

So last year's Sony's middle of the mid grade TVs was the X900H, it recently got a VRR update. A lot of people are disappointed that VRR disables local dimming. And the update apparently introduced a stutter.  


Pretty much every TV outside of a couple of LG and Samsung ones has been limited by MediaTek processing chips who has had quite a few issues with HDMI 2.1. It's a big reason why so few TVs have 4 HDMI 2.1 ports.  LG has their own internal chips.  But it's also brought up other limitations, and iirc it's a big reason why there have been issues with 4K 120 Hz Dolby Vision among other features.

The X90J has the same MediaTek chip, but it also has a companion chip that will hopefully make a difference.  

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I really like the X90J. I knew full well that VRR might not have ended up happening. But it looks like Sony is making good on their promise.  

Still I really like the TV. The brightness is great and the size is awesome.
But the TV also has great upscaling, and that's a more subtle thing that I've noticed. Movies in 480p look way better than on my 1080p set.  I often have to check to see what resolution the movie actually is.

One of the weirder things for me is seeing how many settings a more high end TV has.

My cheap monitor from 10 years ago: you can adjust the gamma, contrast, and the brightness.  
This TV: do you want to adjust the bias and gain of the color green? Want to adjust the motionflow feature?  

@yo pez tell us about your C1.

I'm really impressed!
It seems great  for games and I've tested it on some netflix stuff (dolby vision included) and I'm blown away. The new Arcane show is a great showpiece for it (based on League of legends)

I'm really impressed!
It seems great  for games and I've tested it on some netflix stuff (dolby vision included) and I'm blown away. The new Arcane show is a great showpiece for it (based on League of legends)

Sometimes I kind of feel bad, because LED isn't as good as OLED.

But then I remind myself the C1 costs 50% more than the X90J, here.  :P

I'm on a weird fence.  I want Oled, but at the same time, it turns out my x850c (I think) has actually a lot of good tech in it.  Has black frame insertion which I suspected it had, used, but never realized what it was (Have it on max now).  Sony's interpolation is still the best in the game(I had a revelation when I accidently had it on when watching anime), and is apparently better in their older T.V.s as is their upscalers.  Being edge lit, I see a bit of back light on black parts of the screen, but only when I have the lights off.  But on the other hand, the T.V. pulls a rabbit out of its hat and becomes BLACK when its HDR content.  So I would go for an oled for SDR content only apparently.

As far as VRR goes, I hear a lot of manufacturers are having issues with it, as well as LG(Just less so).  It's this weird use case where the majority of T.V. owners would only really benefit from if they have a Series X and yes, PC users, but that's a really small subset.  It just sucks if you want to future proof yourself a bit.  But at the same time, I don't think oleds can future proof themselves.  The organic layer will start dying at some point. This VRR issue makes Sony's LEDs a bad buy.

On another note, I really wish manufacturers figured this motion problem out.  Interpolation is not a solution if I have to turn it off for everything other than 30+fps and it adding 5 frames of input lag.  Figure out black frame insertion for 24fps-59fps content.

Do good TVs ruin lesser TVs for anyone? I know a lot of people talk about how they can't go back from OLED.  

I've used some really bad TVs, that I'd rather go without a TV. But it doesn't take a lot for me to be reasonably happy with a TV.  

not really. 

I'm watching star trek deep space nine right now.  content is king and technology is easy to forget about after the initial upgrade period. 

Do good TVs ruin lesser TVs for anyone? I know a lot of people talk about how they can't go back from OLED.  

I've used some really bad TVs, that I'd rather go without a TV. But it doesn't take a lot for me to be reasonably happy with a TV.  

It's similar to the 60 vs 30 debate for me. 60 objectively is higher quality, but it's not like 30 is bad.

The only thing that actually annoys me a bit is poor contrast during dark scenes. My primary gaming tv is pretty bad at that and the jump from a beautiful day shot to a messy night shot can sometimes pull me out of the experience.

not really.

I'm watching star trek deep space nine right now.  content is king and technology is easy to forget about after the initial upgrade period.

It's really funny though when the opposite happens. I can't remember which game it was but something I played in the past year had really good surround sound and it caught me off guard. I turned around a few times lol.

Edt: getting a new monitor.

Edt: getting a new monitor.

Why did you delete your post?   :'(

Why did you delete your post?   :'(

I didn't want any late replies to tell me it sucks lol. Put in the order.

I didn't want any late replies to tell me it sucks lol. Put in the order.

jokes on you, it sucks! lolol

jokes on you, it sucks! lolol

It was a pain avoiding curved monitors. At large sizes they might be nice but I don't want one sitting 2 feet from my face!

It was a pain avoiding curved monitors. At large sizes they might be nice but I don't want one sitting 2 feet from my face!

I've got a slight curved monitor. Its like a 27 inch i think.  Its my monitor thats sits to the side of my main drawing monitor and one behind that.  So its not too bad on the side.  

I'm looking at this one here.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-g7-28-ips-1ms-4k-uhd-freesync-g-sync-compatible-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-black/6463480.p?skuId=6463480



Seems like a good monitor though.

I'm looking at this one here.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-g7-28-ips-1ms-4k-uhd-freesync-g-sync-compatible-gaming-monitor-with-hdr-black/6463480.p?skuId=6463480

Spoiler for Hidden:

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Seems like a good monitor though.

I heard it has bad local dimming.

The X90J is $100 cheaper than what I paid for it.  :'(

At least I'm getting good use out of it.

The X90J is $100 cheaper than what I paid for it.  :'(

At least I'm getting good use out of it.

Outside of graphics cards and nintendo games, everything electronics drops in price so fast.

Does your ps5 work at 4k 120 fps on your tv?

Outside of graphics cards and nintendo games, everything electronics drops in price so fast.

Does your ps5 work at 4k 120 fps on your tv?

Theoretically yes, but I don't have any content at 4k120 to try it out.

The HDMI 2.1 spec is so screwed up. 

They're now calling HDMI 2.0, HDMI 2.1, arguing that all of the new features of the 2.1 spec are completely optional. 

"Products can no longer get certified for 2.0 only for 2.1, and also 2.1 features are optional to implement, so popular features like 4k120, ALLM, VRR are not required," Brad Bramy, VP of marketing and operations for the HDMI LA, confirmed to Ars. "Manufacturers could only implement eARC, for example, and claim to be a 2.1-enabled device."

Turns out that "HDMI 2.1" ports don't need to actually support HDMI 2.1 features | Ars Technica (https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/12/the-hdmi-forum-follows-the-usb-if-in-using-new-version-numbers-to-refer-to-old-ports/)


They're basically pulling a USB 3.0 is actually USB 3.1 gen 1, which is actually a USB 3.2 gen 1. 
Which is obnoxious.

That really sucks!

How will that work with cables?

My parents have a TCL which has a weird flickering issue.  I'm not sure what it is exactly.

It really irritates me.  

 

That really sucks!

How will that work with cables?

I think the cables are more generic, and are moreso graded by bandwidth.  

Look, my TV is already outdated!

*Announcement next week*

Look, my TV is already outdated!

*Announcement next week*

Anything cool expected, or just minor improvements?

Anything cool expected, or just minor improvements?

No idea.
I've heard some rumors of QD-OLED, and I'm also hoping that Sony is able to figure out the (actual) HDMI 2.1 stuff.

No idea.
I've heard some rumors of QD-OLED, and I'm also hoping that Sony is able to figure out the (actual) HDMI 2.1 stuff.

My new "tv" supports 4k 120 fps on xbox but only 4k 60 fps on ps5. I don't know how the rollout of 2.1 has been this bad.

(I bought my monitor knowing this, so not a problem for me)

My new "tv" supports 4k 120 fps on xbox but only 4k 60 fps on ps5. I don't know how the rollout of 2.1 has been this bad.

(I bought my monitor knowing this, so not a problem for me)

What TV do you have?

A lot of the issues seem to be on MediaTek who makes the chips.
LG and Samsung are the only ones with their own internal chipsets. That's why they're the only ones with 4x HDMI 2.1 ports. And why LG was able to update their TV to support 4K120 with full Dolby Vision.

Whereas Sony's X900H last year could only do half of 4K120, and it's apparently why they're having trouble with VRR, among other issues.

The X90J I have, at least supports full 4K120, but I don't think Dolby Vision will happen with that...  

It's disappointing, but I'm not too upset about it, the TVs that do are a lot more expensive.

What TV do you have?

A lot of the issues seem to be on MediaTek who makes the chips.
LG and Samsung are the only ones with their own internal chipsets. That's why they're the only ones with 4x HDMI 2.1 ports. And why LG was able to update their TV to support 4K120 with full Dolby Vision.

Whereas Sony's X900H last year could only do half of 4K120, and it's apparently why they're having trouble with VRR, among other issues.

The X90J I have, at least supports full 4K120, but I don't think Dolby Vision will happen with that...  

It's disappointing, but I'm not too upset about it, the TVs that do are a lot more expensive.

Samsung odyssey pc monitor, the one I posted before.

Seems to be that ps5 can only do a specific form of 4k 120 output.

Samsung odyssey pc monitor, the one I posted before.

Oh sorry, misread your comment and thought you were implying you had a 4K TV and a 4K monitor now.

Seems to be that ps5 can only do a specific form of 4k 120 output.

Yeah.
4K 120 (4:2:2 chroma)

Supposedly this will be updated at some point, not sure if that's true.

Oh sorry, misread your comment and thought you were implying you had a 4K TV and a 4K monitor now.
Yeah.
4K 120 (4:2:2 chroma)

Supposedly this will be updated at some point, not sure if that's true.

TV is only 60 fps so doesn't matter.

I've yet to get my monitor working at 144 hz though so maybe that doesn't matter either lol.

I hope Sony makes a mini-LED.  I've noticed a blue tint on their oled everytime I see comparisons with them (I'm assuming LG has a similar issue) and their FALDs.  Their FALD's show white as white.  But their blacks are also not as good.  if rumours are true and Sony's switching to Samsung's oled panels, it'll probably fix the issues, but at the same time, they'll probably be expensive.  Cheaper mini-LED seems like a nice compromise if the prices are right.  All until they figure out micro-LED.

Local dimming is such a bad feature imo. It's cool but I hate how dependent it is on the scene.

I haven't had time to really use my screen but other than that it seems great. The colors really pop. Need to play a game on it.

Local dimming is such a bad feature imo. It's cool but I hate how dependent it is on the scene.

I haven't had time to really use my screen but other than that it seems great. The colors really pop. Need to play a game on it.

Huh interesting

Samsung Odyssey G7 S28AG70 Review - RTINGS.com (https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/samsung/odyssey-g7-s28ag70)

The Samsung Odyssey G7 28 has a terrible edge-lit local dimming feature. It only has 8 dimming zones, which are large, and the entire zone turns on when there's a small bright highlight.

As this is an HDMI 2.1 monitor, we also checked to see the compatibility with the Xbox Series X, and the PS5. Everything works as expected on the Xbox, but it's limited to 4k @ 60Hz content from the PS5. Our monitor is on firmware 1002.0, which seems to have this issue, and we read reports that firmware 1004.0 fixes it so you can play 4k games up to 120 fps from the PS5. However, we couldn't update our unit because we found the 1004.0 update on the Samsung UK website, and the UK model has a different model code than our American version. If you bought in the US and you updated the firmware, let us know.

Samsung's new 2022 lineup of smart TVs include a Gaming Hub that has access to GeForce Now, Google Stadia, and Utomik cloud gaming services. Surprisingly, Microsoft's Xbox Cloud Gaming (xCloud) isn't part of this Gaming Hub yet https://t.co/d2gzyD2RYc pic.twitter.com/PZOEyBHp8h

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) January 3, 2022

Look, my TV is already outdated!

*Announcement next week*

-Z9K: 8K Mini-LED
-A95K: 4K QD-OLED
-A90K: 4K OLED
-A80K: 4K OLED
-X95K: 4K Mini-LED
-X90K: 4K LED


Seems like the X90K is basically the same as the X90J. 

Local dimming is such a bad feature imo. It's cool but I hate how dependent it is on the scene.

I haven't had time to really use my screen but other than that it seems great. The colors really pop. Need to play a game on it.

Should have waited for QD-OLED.  :(

Should have waited for QD-OLED.  :(

Spoiler for Hidden:

I'm just kidding, I'd expect it to be stupid expensive at this point.

I'd pay extra to avoid curved lol.

Totes a tv question...

How do yall feel about display scaling on a 4k pc monitor? My 4k screen is only a couple inches bigger than my old 1080 screen and I'm struggling to find what feels right.

It's a little funny to me when I'm watching comparisons about TVs and I'm thinking "hey my monitor looks pretty good here".  ;D

Totes a tv question...

How do yall feel about display scaling on a 4k pc monitor? My 4k screen is only a couple inches bigger than my old 1080 screen and I'm struggling to find what feels right.

Dunno sorry. :(

It's a little funny to me when I'm watching comparisons about TVs and I'm thinking "hey my monitor looks pretty good here".  ;D

Dunno sorry. :(

175% feels right, but it doesn't always work. Dragging stuff between windows is wonky.

I'm just shocked that pcs are so lacking when it comes to display scaling. Pixel resolution shouldn't affect the user experience in 2022 lol.

175% feels right, but it doesn't always work. Dragging stuff between windows is wonky.

I'm just shocked that pcs are so lacking when it comes to display scaling. Pixel resolution shouldn't affect the user experience in 2022 lol.

Yeah for me it seems like 150% or 175% is the best spot.  And yeah it gets real annoying at times dragging between windows.

How to set custom display scaling settings on Windows 10 | Windows Central (https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-custom-display-scaling-setting-windows-10?amp)

You can set a custom scaling setting.

How to set custom display scaling settings on Windows 10 | Windows Central (https://www.windowscentral.com/how-set-custom-display-scaling-setting-windows-10?amp)

You can set a custom scaling setting.

The issue is that the scaling is per program. Quixel Mixer for example ignores scaling by default, but the setting can be toggled. Dragging stuff between screens is wonky because until the program decides to resize, it is either way too large or way too small on the new screen.

Also I wish the scaling affected mouse position when jumping between two screens. My 4k and 1080p screens are essentially the same size yet I can't make them feel seamless like I did before.

Just nitpicks, but still surprising imo since multiple screens and UHD screens have been around for so long.

I mean, I could be wrong here but my devs tell me a slightly different story.  

my products thick client has a ton of scaling issues and they tell me they have almost no control to fix it in the application.  apparently starting in windows 8 MS effectively dropped support for win forms.  we'd be slightly better in WPF but windows scales them differently so the protyped mix tech was horrible and the WPF didn't always scale right anyways. 

we're just moving everything to web now and our thick client has a requirement that you can't use windows scaling.   it too fudgy broken. 

for fudges sake my Outlook email is the most broken wrt scaling. 

Local dimming is such a bad feature imo. It's cool but I hate how dependent it is on the scene.

I haven't had time to really use my screen but other than that it seems great. The colors really pop. Need to play a game on it.

Sony had some good local dimming tech that they're bringing back.  I'm actually very interested in it.  If the pixels can change almost as fast as a OLED, this might be the T.V. for me.

Sadly your monitor has one of the worst local dimming solutions on the market.

Sony hasn't been doing the best with local dimming. I've generally heard that their local dimming is the best in its class (by number of zones), but they have fewer zones than most of the higher end displays.  The X90J has like half as many zones as a comparable Samsung display that is in the same class.

Mini led looks like it'll change that though.

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One thing I will say, between HDR/good local dimming/probably other stuff too, my TV looks pretty good.

On my older TV, the content looks crisp and the colors look okay, but it looks dull.
I don't know if I'd say the difference is worth ~$750 or whatever, but eh.

Sadly your monitor has one of the worst local dimming solutions on the market.

Sony hasn't been doing the best with local dimming. I've generally heard that their local dimming is the best in its class (by number of zones), but they have fewer zones than most of the higher end displays.  The X90J has like half as many zones as a comparable Samsung display that is in the same class.

Mini led looks like it'll change that though.

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One thing I will say, between HDR/good local dimming/probably other stuff too, my TV looks pretty good.

On my older TV, the content looks crisp and the colors look okay, but it looks dull.
I don't know if I'd say the difference is worth ~$750 or whatever, but eh.

I vaguely recall what it's called, but their backlight tech that they're bringing back is what interests me.  It was good in that one t.v. that they had.  Though it was only in one.

I vaguely recall what it's called, but their backlight tech that they're bringing back is what interests me.  It was good in that one t.v. that they had.  Though it was only in one.

Sony Backlight Master Drive I assume is what you're talking about.

Yeah, they're bringing it back with their mini led displays (X95K, Z9K)

Sony Backlight Master Drive I assume is what you're talking about.

Yeah, they're bringing it back with their mini led displays (X95K, Z9K)

Yes, this is what has me excited.  Off hand comments on their last T.V. (z9d?) that had it was very impressive.  It looked almost as good as an Oled display.  Coming back with mini led tech makes their backlit T.V. sound really dang good.   Plus it doesn't have that weird blue tint I notice with WRGB Oled displays.

My mom's tv died :'(

Had an amazing run. 13 years old, used 10 hours a day, and still looked great.

So time to help her find a new one.

My mom's tv died :'(

Had an amazing run. 13 years old, used 10 hours a day, and still looked great.

So time to help her find a new one.

What's her budget?   :o

My parents have a Toshiba that's 15 years old. Was the first HDTV I ever used. That one still looks good. Honestly looks better than the newer TCL they have.

I think Toshiba used to make better TVs than they do today...

My mom's tv died :'(

Had an amazing run. 13 years old, used 10 hours a day, and still looked great.

So time to help her find a new one.

13 years is a long time. Its interesting how TV have the longest lifespan in electronics, even longer than consoles. I think after HD TV released diminishing returns really affected it, like a good HD TV from 10 years ago still displays a really good image  

What's her budget?   :o

My parents have a Toshiba that's 15 years old. Was the first HDTV I ever used. That one still looks good. Honestly looks better than the newer TCL they have.

I think Toshiba used to make better TVs than they do today...

Don't really have a budget as long as it's a good deal.

This was my first hd tv too.

13 years is a long time. Its interesting how TV have the longest lifespan in electronics, even longer than consoles. I think after HD TV released diminishing returns really affected it, like a good HD TV from 10 years ago still displays a really good image  

I think my parents just need a generic 4k one. They could see 1080p vs 640p or whatever, but I don't think they can see 4k.

My new 4k screen is amazing though. I know youtube 1080p vs 4k alters bitrate, but the difference is huge.

The best budget TV is probably the Hisense U6G.  

Or you could go up a bit for the Hisense U7G for full 4K120.  8)

Hisense U7G vs Hisense U6G Side-by-Side TV Comparison - RTINGS.com (https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/hisense-u7g-vs-hisense-u6g/23636/24000?usage=1&threshold=0.10)

The best budget TV is probably the Hisense U6G.  

Or you could go up a bit for the Hisense U7G for full 4K120.  8)

Hisense U7G vs Hisense U6G Side-by-Side TV Comparison - RTINGS.com (https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/hisense-u7g-vs-hisense-u6g/23636/24000?usage=1&threshold=0.10)

How does that compare to the x90j?

Parents tend to like name brand and 55 inch is maybe good for them.

How does that compare to the x90j?

Parents tend to like name brand and 55 inch is maybe good for them.

According to rtings, they're very comparable. (https://www.rtings.com/tv/tools/compare/sony-x90j-vs-hisense-u7g/21562/23636?usage=1&threshold=0.10) Probably not noticeably different.

The U7G is on sale right now for $650 for the 55". (Normally $850).
The X90J is $1050 for the 55" right now.  

If they are more concerned about value, the U7G is an excellent value/much, much better value.  

If they feel more comfortable about the brand, and don't mind spending that much more, I would say I am very happy with the X90J. I would say you can't really go wrong with it.  

Good news for owners of Sony A90J, A80J & other 2021 Bravia XR TVs! Sony said the company will begin staggered rollout of VRR firmware update from beginning of March (this year). 2022 BRAVIA XR TVs still on track to have VRR available at launch, despite what the website says.

— Vincent Teoh (@Vincent_Teoh) February 23, 2022

Seems like the Master Drive T.V.s are only 65inch.  If the QD Oled can get down to 2000 cad for Christmas, I might get one.

Mom went with samsung qn90a. Once she got to the store she really became hooked on brightness over all other features (she has poor night vision so an oled demo wowed her).

Mom went with samsung qn90a. Once she got to the store she really became hooked on brightness over all other features (she has poor night vision so an oled demo wowed her).

Nice.  

A good bit pricier than the X90J, but definitely a better TV.

Nice.  

A good bit pricier than the X90J, but definitely a better TV.

It was on sale while the x90j was not, so it wasn't too bad.

Has some discoloration along the left edge where the protective foam was. Hopefully that is just temporary.


Pretty funny though is that the remote has a solar panel on it.

BREAKING: Sony has started rolling out the long-awaited VRR firmware update on the company's 2021 TVs with BRAVIA XR processor. It popped up on my Sony A90J OLED (US model) when I checked for updates on the TV this morning. pic.twitter.com/o58tVPMnV4

— Vincent Teoh (@Vincent_Teoh) March 1, 2022

BREAKING: Sony has started rolling out the long-awaited VRR firmware update on the company's 2021 TVs with BRAVIA XR processor. It popped up on my Sony A90J OLED (US model) when I checked for updates on the TV this morning. pic.twitter.com/o58tVPMnV4

— Vincent Teoh (@Vincent_Teoh) March 1, 2022

PS5 next

I dont understand why VRR has taken Sony so long

The A95K TV is apparently incredible.  

I dont understand why VRR has taken Sony so long

From what I understand; VRR doesn't work to well on most media chips.  Even LGs implementation has issues.  Sony's engineers probably felt they needed to finess it a lot to not lose image quality.  We'll find out soon if that's the case.

Local dimming is funny.

The high setting I would say has more in common with the off setting in terms of appearance. Largely because the blooming is the big thing that I notice for the low/medium settings.

It seems like it's an all or nothing kind of thing.

Samsung's QD-OLED is using some cheats.

Basically set up to measure accurately in the windows that reviewers usually use, while sacrificing accuracy everywhere else to make the picture pop.

Samsung's QD-OLED is using some cheats.

Basically set up to measure accurately in the windows that reviewers usually use, while sacrificing accuracy everywhere else to make the picture pop.

Interesting. I never bother calibrating so I hope the trend he talks about at the end doesn't get worse.

Apparently Sony added support for local dimming while VRR is on:

Firmware update to v6.5929 | Sony USA (https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/software/00277542)

Bigly if true.

Not exactly sure what happened, but pretty sure my kids damaged our TV.

At least it's very minor.

There's a very small dent, basically only shows up as a white dot, only visible when the screen is dark. And it's like 2 pixels wide. Which is pretty small on a 4k screen.

Not exactly sure what happened, but pretty sure my kids damaged our TV.

At least it's very minor.

There's a very small dent, basically only shows up as a white dot, only visible when the screen is dark. And it's like 2 pixels wide. Which is pretty small on a 4k screen.

Oops. Is it still under warranty?

Oops. Is it still under warranty?

Pretty sure it is, but I'm not sure I want to bother. *shrugs*

Pretty sure it is, but I'm not sure I want to bother. *shrugs*

I get that. There's a weird discoloration on the edge of our brand new tv but I think I'm the only one that can see it, so I just ignore it.

My TV OS got upgraded.

It went from one long line of apps to having them in a grid. Progress!  

Also, apps only mode is great. Kind of frustrating that it apparently disables the store. But after you've installed everything you need, it's great.  


Unrelated note, lately I've been a little snobby about resolution. Originally just did 480p just to save on HDD space and lately been downloading in full 1080p.  

480p is so low. Glad you've moved past the dvd era.

This might be a bad comparison. I was comparing 1080p iTunes vs 480p DVD. It was an animation so it might be the source material not being much better.

There are certain parts of the image that look better (lines look more distinct) but the rest doesn't look discernable from the DVD version.

My parents Vizio TV OS is so terrible. It's struggling to start up on its own, the UI is awful.

On the other end of it, the OS on my X90J is better than our standalone Roku's.  

Sony has good OS. I also really like samsung's OS.

Talking about my samsung tv though, I've started to notice super faint brightness differences. A blank white screen looks like 4 vertical strips if you really pay attention. Absolutely no problem today but I worry in another year it'll be more visible.

Sony's flagship TV to be LED/LCD after OLED the past few years.

I got the Hisense U7k. Got it for a decent price too. So far it's been really nice, but I've just had it installed 2 days.

I got the Hisense U7k. Got it for a decent price too. So far it's been really nice, but I've just had it installed 2 days.

Nice. I'd love a 7k tv, I only have 4k  ;)

Nice. I'd love a 7k tv, I only have 4k  ;)

Lol. Don't blame me bruh, these dumb dog tv names don't make sense.

Sony's flagship TV to be LED/LCD after OLED the past few years.

I'm guessing Samsung hit a snag with QD OLED?  Also crazy but they went to their semi conductor unit for smaller LED drivers.  I wonder if they're planning a massive revamp next year for their panels.  Like, doubling the amount of LEDs or something.

I'm guessing Samsung hit a snag with QD OLED?  Also crazy but they went to their semi conductor unit for smaller LED drivers.  I wonder if they're planning a massive revamp next year for their panels.  Like, doubling the amount of LEDs or something.

I don't think they've hit a snag. Just probably not going to be much better than it was last year.

Sony's mini-led and their improved local dimming system probably comes reasonably close.

Seems pretty dumb.

And is that a physical sheet that's sliding up and down to transition between transparent and solid modes? lol

Seems pretty dumb.

And is that a physical sheet that's sliding up and down to transition between transparent and solid modes? lol

Yes it appears so.

Just probably not going to be much better than it was last year.

Yeah, a snag :P
But I meant it more of they couldn't do much better, so Sony and themselves won't be able to do better than last year.  Unless new processing comes out and they can drive 500hz or something.  That'd solve their motion issues.