Sony FY2013 Results - $1.25bn loss, Game Operating Loss $78m, PS4+PS3 3.7m (17m Expected Next FY)

[ethomaz]

Here we go...

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/13q4_sony.pdf

is not in a good position and it won't be before FY2015... so I expected loss next FY too. The good news is that they are expecting 17m PS4 + PS3 shipment in FY2014.

[ethomaz]

BTW my post in GAF about the PS4 and PS3 sales.

Being conservative...

Sony 4.2m at end of 2013 could means ~4.5m shipped.
Sony 7.0m at end of April 6, 2014 could means ~7.5m shipped.

PS3 Q3: ~3.3m
PS4 Q3: ~4.5m

PS3 Q4: ~0.7m
PS4 Q4: ~3.0m

In both cases Sony is shipping close to twice consoles than MS... and PS4 shipped close to three times than Xbox One.

Amazing performance.

[ethomaz]

17 million shipment across PS4 + PS3 means they will be close 20 million shipment for PS4 at the end of FY2014.

[Legend]

17 million shipment across PS4 + PS3 means they will be close 20 million shipment for PS4 at the end of 2014.

Or maybe PS3 will have a huge year?

[ethomaz]

Or maybe PS3 will have a huge year?

Maybe... well they shipped 1.1m + 2.0m in Q1 + Q3... if my estimates are right they shipped more 3.3m + 0.7m in Q3 + Q4... so ~7.1m PS4 shipped in FY2013... PS3 is down yoy a lot... so I expected ~5m shipped in next FY or even less.

PS3 5m put PS4 at ~19.5m at end of FY2014.

PS. I fixed my post... I was talking about FY.

[7H3]

Looks like the major losses aren't coming from the gaming division so that's good

[Dr. Pezus]

17m seems too low for PS4+PS3 imo. I'd say 19-20m (4-5m PS3 and 15m PS4)

[Mmm_fish_tacos]

The game divison losses are expected. But really low considering theres a new console. Dont know what to say about the rest of the company.  I hope that by next year theyll turn a profit as a whole, considering the restructuring moves set in place.

[ethomaz]

17m seems too low for PS4+PS3 imo. I'd say 19-20m (4-5m PS3 and 15m PS4)

15m PS4 will put it over 22m lifetime at end of March 2015... I think it will be at 18.5m end of 2014 and 20m end of March 2015... so less than 13m PS4 shipped.

[Dr. Pezus]

15m PS4 will put it over 22m lifetime at end of March 2015... I think it will be at 18.5m end of 2014 and 20m end of March 2015... so less than 13m PS4 shipped.

Yeah 22m shipped and around 20.5m sold or so. I don't find that unreasonable. That's around 13.5m sold in a year...

[ethomaz]

To put in perspective...

PS4 + PS3: 3.7m
Xbox One + 360: 2.0m
Wii U + Wii: [random numbers below 500k]

Over 60% of console market was PlayStation last quarter.