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E3 is here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Use this thread for all E3 related discussion that doesn't fit into a specific thread.

What on Earth is limited run?

Also, hype!

What on Earth is limited run?

Also, hype!

Pretty sure it's indie games getting physical releases.

Pretty sure it's indie games getting physical releases.

Oh neat, I'll probably tune in for that.

WE ARE GOING LONG PEOPLE, WE ARE GOING LONG! #XboxE3 #GetHyped https://t.co/Lo51PUKicR

— Aaron Greenberg (@aarongreenberg) June 9, 2018

Yay!

(even if it's boring stuff, yay!)

*cracks knuckles*
*clears throat*#XboxE3 pic.twitter.com/1nb76Yqn2Z

— Xbox UK (@xboxuk) June 9, 2018

Finally in LA! pic.twitter.com/T4uxG7ea2t

— Mike Ybarra (@XboxQwik) June 8, 2018

Lunch with a view #E32018 pic.twitter.com/8dPJ6wSMKf

— Craig Duncan (@Gamerboss) June 8, 2018

Sony's turn

Friendly neighborhood Spider-Man banner going up for #E32018 @PlayStation pic.twitter.com/jNJRQOY4U4

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) June 9, 2018

Solid if unsurprising conference from EA, as expected. Tomorrow (Xbox and Bethesda) should be far more exciting for those of us craving those big dumb reveals and MEGATONS

— Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier) June 9, 2018

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— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) June 9, 2018

Bethesda stage!!!

Checking out LA Convention Center signs for @E3 pic.twitter.com/i6hzClPlx9

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) June 9, 2018

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— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) June 9, 2018

What does it all mean?

What does it all mean?

Sony space game. Look at those stars.

Sony space game. Look at those stars.

Lol. Man they always had that in their designs. Unless they been teasing their space game since the start of the gen!

Hot dang! Ya'll been bamboozled!

Lol. Man they always had that in their designs. Unless they been teasing their space game since the start of the gen!

Hot dang! Ya'll been bamboozled!

Bamboozled like a pro!  

Lol. Man they always had that in their designs. Unless they been teasing their space game since the start of the gen!

Hot dang! Ya'll been bamboozled!

I think this specific design started last year at Paris Games Week.

But for real though, it looks really nice with the colorful nebulas added in. I love that it's the backdrop for Sony's countdown streams and I hope it's part of the main show.

edt: Anthem Release Date Revealed, February 22nd, 2019 | Page 14 | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/posts/8942730/)

what? No Anthem tomorrow  :'(

double edit:

Just wrapped our final #XboxE3 rehearsal. Feeling great about the show. Excited to world premiere 15 games tomorrow and much, much more #E32018 pic.twitter.com/NxPreEOXfw

— Phil Spencer (@XboxP3) June 10, 2018

A lot less than last year. Wonder if that means we'll be getting bigger games? EDT: maybe not smaller, depends on how you define the word

edt edt edt:

@Wario64 Maybe you like this ;) pic.twitter.com/fCxXCX7pOR

— Michael Batenburg, The Division 2 ???? (@Batenburg2017) June 10, 2018

Cleaner pic

We've skated into town! Ready to board the #E32018 train. pic.twitter.com/9jUjN4jZVS

— ID@Xbox (@ID_Xbox) June 10, 2018

Apparently there were 7 world premieres last year. So more than double. Counts as a new game announcement. Maybe they expanded it this year to include first proper showings of games, so AC Odyssey, Cyberpunk and Shadows Die Twice might count.

Can I claim the xbox show thread?

They're always a fun one.

Apparently there were 7 world premieres last year. So more than double. Counts as a new game announcement. Maybe they expanded it this year to include first proper showings of games, so AC Odyssey, Cyberpunk and Shadows Die Twice might count.

We will see cyberpunk in 6 hours. Get hype!!!

fudge. It seems I will most likely miss the MS conference

Fudge indeed. How hyped for cyberpunk are you?

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Xbox will have a lot of third party content on stage - and some surprising partners. There will be a few meaningful first party announcements too. Should be a strong showing for the industry.

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) June 10, 2018

About an hour 45 minutes

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) June 10, 2018

Xbox will have a lot of third party content on stage - and some surprising partners. There will be a few meaningful first party announcements too. Should be a strong showing for the industry.

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) June 10, 2018

:o  they stole DMC5 confirmed

:o  they stole DMC5 confirmed

Or they teamed up with Nintendo.

Or they teamed up with Nintendo.

Well there is the Paladins cross-play thing. Will be interesting to see what Keighley means for sure.

I'm going to miss the MS show.  I'll watch it later tonight, I hope.  But I got tomorrow off.  Gonna be a packed day.

E3 paparazzi photo pic.twitter.com/KaDtJNWuzR

— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) June 10, 2018

I'm going to miss the MS show.  I'll watch it later tonight, I hope.  But I got tomorrow off.  Gonna be a packed day.

If you can only get one day off, Monday is definitely the best day.

i should feel bad,  every time i watch a ms conference,  i kinda feel like im watchig baseball and the other  team is up to bat lol

Geoff is live, hello!

Anthem interview right now

This cameraman loves moving in on people  :P

oh shame I forgot Bethesda's is in like 3 and a half hours.

oh shame I forgot Bethesda's is in like 3 and a half hours.

Shoot.  
I might have to watch the MS one tomorrow.  

oh shame I forgot Bethesda's is in like 3 and a half hours.

Yeah, I've got an exam in 11 hours so its no for me.

Who wants the bethesda thread?

I might miss it too!

actually bethesda starts halfway into westworld so I will be late to that one anyway.

:o  they stole DMC5 confirmed

Now timed exclusives are good again!

Now timed exclusives are good again!

Don't think it has any exclusivity.

Don't think it has any exclusivity.

Oh thought someone said it was timed

Oh thought someone said it was timed

They were misinformed.

Oh thought someone said it was timed

You saw only lies

Also so fudgy hyped for cyberpunk wow

Just my type of game

Below is on stream!

Ashen on stream!

We need a bethesda op!

i'm watching westworld so I'll be late to bethesda.

i'm watching westworld so I'll be late to bethesda.

Westworld can wait!

I'll make a quick thread for Bethesda.

Will be ready in a few minutes I think.  

Westworld can wait!

Nah never!

i'll have it on with no sound while I watch westworld

Waiting the big surprises?

Well a lot of PS5 games.

Time to get some sleep.  And prepare for the next show!!  

Time to get some sleep.  And prepare for the next show!!  

I'm now having to watch the Easy Allies stream!

No sleep ever!!!

Ok fine I'll sleep

I'll take Squeenix

Awesome, we have a little time off until the next one.

yeah I need to do some work.  But not really feeling it though.  lol

I really need to try and sketch out some of my other sections of my game.  And focus on the story a bit more too.

So far I'm thinking

EA: 2/10
MS: 7.5/10
Devolver: 8/10
Squeenix: 3/10

Probably not going to bother watching Bethesda

EA: 2.5
MS: 8
Devolver: 7
Squeenix: 4
Bethesda: 8.75

So far I'm thinking

EA: 2/10
MS: 7.5/10
Devolver: 8/10
Squeenix: 3/10

Probably not going to bother watching Bethesda

I hear it's the best one!

Who wants ubisoft? They're one of the best but I have to miss them.

Who wants ubisoft? They're one of the best but I have to miss them.

I might take Ubi and leave Sony to someone else

EA: 2.5
MS: 8
Devolver: 7
Squeenix: 4
Bethesda: 8.75

Limited Run: 4.5

Kind of fun similar to Devolver, but I didn't think it was as fun.  Some interesting looking games getting ported over.

Ubi: 6
Feels about right.

Cringe... Cringe..

Ops. Wrong threas

E3 2018: Phil Spencer Says the Future of Xbox Is On 'Every Device Possible' - IGN (http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/06/11/e3-2018-phil-spencer-says-the-future-of-xbox-is-on-every-device-possible)

Hmm is this a sign of them putting games on playstation going forward.  Maybe not their big staple first party games like gears, forza, or halo.  But maybe some of the new studios they have will put games everywhere they can.

Or i'm just way too hopeful.

Up to Sony to save e3 as usual. Their backs must be very sore.

What a save!
What a save!
What a save!

Up to Sony to save e3 as usual. Their backs must be very sore.

What a save!
What a save!
What a save!

e3 this year doesn't need saving, its been good. And last year they didn't save it :P

Up to Sony to save e3 as usual. Their backs must be very sore.

What a save!
What a save!
What a save!

I mean MS and Bethesda had strong shows along with Ubisoft being decent

Why couldn't PC and Sony switch places?

E3 this year is being really a boring announcements to be announced with no real surprise game to be release soon.

It is even sad the games announced today are expect to hit in next-gen.

Seems like publishers have little to show so they needed to show early these prototype of games years to release.

E3 this year is being really a boring announcements to be announced with no real surprise game to be release soon.

It is even sad the games announced today are expect to hit in next-gen.

Seems like publishers have little to show so they needed to show early these prototype of games years to release.

Let's wait for Sony!

Yeah there's been no huge announcements this e3. Just lots of expected sequels/ expansions and mostly games we already knew about. If only there were no leaks and stuff wasn't announced before e3, would be much more exciting!

Sadly I won't get to see Sony save e3. Have to go bed. Will watch the highlights tomorrow!

Sadly I won't get to see Sony save e3. Have to go bed. Will watch the highlights tomorrow!

Same but I'll probably watch the whole conference

Limited Run: 4.5

Kind of fun similar to Devolver, but I didn't think it was as fun.  Some interesting looking games getting ported over.

Ubi: 6
Feels about right.

I'm gonna say PC: 5.5
Man Eater, Rapture Rejects, Stormland, Yakuza comes to PC, The Sinking City all were interesting announcements.  

So who's doing the Sony conference?

So who's doing the Sony conference?

Seems like all of us will be asleep. Stupid Sony

I'll make it in a few minutes if no one else does.

I'll make it in a few minutes if no one else does.

I will be here!

But I did xbox so go ahead. Any preshow this year?

hurry up and make it, stream is live and playing funky music

Seems like all of us will be asleep. Stupid Sony

nah only 9pm here!

nah only 9pm here!

Merica represent!

nah only 9pm here!

Surely you mean 8pm?

Surely you mean 8pm?

it's 8:30 now, but 9 when its starts.

it's 8:30 now, but 9 when its starts.

Well okay future man.  

Bethesda: 8.75
MS: 8
Sony: 7
Devolver: 7
Ubi: 6
PC: 5.5
Limited Run: 4.5
Squeenix: 4
EA: 2.5

Bethesda: 9
Devolver: 8
MS: 7
Ubi: 6
Sony: 5
Squeenix: 4
EA: 3

Maybe Nintendo can win this year!

That is why I didn't put hopes on Sony...

Ohhhhhh that E3 with no games... sad.

That is why I didn't put hopes on Sony...

Ohhhhhh that E3 with no games... sad.

Same, Sony was exactly what I expected. If I got too hyped up I would have been disappointed like last year, but I felt quite good at the end. Still amazed at TLOU2 honestly.

I watched Ghost again and I liked it a lot more second time, seems very AC which I love, with the stealth attacks and stuff. Also the graphics look a lot better in the video too, must have been the stream.

Same, Sony was exactly what I expected. If I got too hyped up I would have been disappointed like last year, but I felt quite good at the end. Still amazed at TLOU2 honestly.

I watched Ghost again and I liked it a lot more second time, seems very AC which I love, with the stealth attacks and stuff. Also the graphics look a lot better in the video too, must have been the stream.

Yeap the gameplay parts were the best but hey these games are games already announced that I know how it will plays.

This E3 lack of new concrete games/announces is really sad... the most great announces are just concepts of games that will start development yet :(

Yeap the gameplay parts were the best but hey these games are games already announced that I know how it will plays.

This E3 lack of new concrete games/announces is really sad... the most great announces are just concepts of games that will start development yet :(

Yeah most announcements have been safe sequels. I think its because announcements are spreading out more and more nowadays though.

The rest of this year and 2019 look absolutely loaded with games. Lots of sequels and new IPs. We're not seeing quite as many announcements, because the companies that would announce games a couple of years ahead, like Sony, are making those games for next gen now and don't want to talk about them yet. Bethesda decided to announce next gen games, but they're the odd ones out and I think it was a weird move. Next gen is coming, but we've got at least one and a half more incredible years left of this gen.

I'll be missing Nintendo too!

Who wants to make the thread?

EA: 2/10
MS: 7.5/10
Devolver: 7/10
Squeenix: 3/10
Ubisoft: 5.5/10
Sony: 6.5/10
Nintendo: 5/10

Not a very good year.

Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be first person... looks like that's it for me for that game.

Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be first person... looks like that's it for me for that game.

Why would they do that? Yuck

On the other hand, maybe they'll usher in an age of good non fps first person games.

Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be first person... looks like that's it for me for that game.

So like TES, Fallout, Deus Ex and lots of other great games? Seems the right choice imo for something like this

 The Role-Playing Game of the Dark Future

About the Game

In 2077, America is in pieces. Megacorps control life in all its aspects from the top floors of their sky-high fortresses. Down below, drug-pushing gangs, dirty-tech hustlers, and slingers of illicit braindances run the streets. The world in between is where decadence, naughtiness, and pop culture mix with violent crime, extreme poverty, and the unattainable promise of the American Dream.

In a world where you have no future, what matters is that you control who you are. To survive and protect your independence, you modify your body with advanced cyberware and take jobs others would never dare. You choose to live free, bound by no systems or controls--the only rules you obey are your own. Because you're a Cyberpunk.

In Cyberpunk 2077 you play as V--a hired gun on the rise and you just got your first serious contract. In a world of cyberenhanced street warriors, tech-savvy netrunners, and corporate lifehackers, today you take your first step towards becoming an urban legend.

■ Become a street mercenary of the future…

Create a hero able to survive in America's most dangerous megacity.

Create Your Own Cyberpunk Your name is V, and you can be anyone you want to be. Cyberpunk 2077 will feature full character customization, with gender, appearance, and personal background all affecting the shape of your game. As you progress. you'll develop skills in urban warfare and network hacking, as well as modify your body with cyberware like infra-red eyes or neural reflex boosters.
Fluid Class System - Become a Netrunner. Techie or Solo.. or a mix of all three. Cyberpunk 2077 doesn't impose any player roles and allows all available classes.
See Night City Through Your Eyes - Cyberpunk 2077 brings first-person perspective back to the role-playing genre. Deep narrative immersion is a key design priority, and you'll experience the story of the game's protagonist entirely through their eyes.
Interactive Dialogue Control - You're a participant, an agent, not an observer. Cyberpunk 2077 features an interactive dialogue system that gives players maximum control during conversations--comment on an uncooperative character's tattoo to please them, or end a conversation early with a well-placed bullet. The choice is always yours.
Game Noir - With its mature approach to storytelling, Cyberpunk 2077 adopts elements of noir cinema and inserts them into the future of video games. Without a clear definition of what's good or evil, in Cyberpunk 2077 you'll make hard choices to define yourself in a city that wants to bring you to your knees.
■ …and enter the most decadent megacity…

Night City is a playground for dreamers, an urbarn jungle that offers luxury excess… or a bullet to the brain if you mess with the corporations.

Go Anywhere, Do Anything - Cyberpunk 2077 is fully open-world, which means Night City is yours for the taking - if you're prepared. With 6 distinct districts to explore, hundreds of buildings and thousands rooms to enter, and dozens of miles of roads to hit, there are always places to be and things to do.
You're Worth What You Have - The world of cyberpunks is all about your gear. Wear designer clothes, buy (or steal) cars, and acquire black market military tech to help you during your missions. Then use blood money to invest in properties all around the city.
Jack In, Run the Net - Night City is fully connected and offers countless cyberspace access terminals. As you explore the Net, you'll discover layers of hidden systems, firewalls, and security programs deployed to fry your brain. During missions, you'll clash with hostile netrunners defending corporate megabuildings--both in cyberspace and in the real world.
■ …to uncover it's dirtiest secrets.

Story-driven and action-packed, Cyberpunk 2077's cinematic plot was written to provide a rich and robust single-player experience. Offering dozens of hours of main arc quests and lots of additional activities like side quests and Street Stories, the game is a good fit for both hardcore completionists and gamers who like to focus on instant action. Featuring CD Projekt RED's trademark storytelling system driven by choice and consequence, in Cyberpunk 2077 players navigate the streets of Night City along strongly contrasting paths to arrive at one of a range of story outcomes.


Read more at Cyberpunk 2077 first details, screenshots - Gematsu (https://gematsu.com/2018/06/cyberpunk-2077-first-details-screenshots#83vkJHbbEbitpCpG.99)

Why would they do that? Yuck

On the other hand, maybe they'll usher in an age of good non fps first person games.

"He then went on to explain more of the philosophy of how you present perspective in games, saying, "Third-person works well in games like the Witcher when you have a lot of motion and movement around you. But when all the things happen to you, from you, within you, first person point of view is the right decision to take, especially because of the augmentations.""

E3 2018: Cyberpunk 2077: CD Projekt Addresses First-Person Backlash - IGN (http://m.ign.com/articles/2018/06/12/e3-2018-cyberpunk-2077-cd-projekt-addresses-first-person-backlash)

Ghost of Tsushima Details!

- It's an open-world samurai adventure.
- The game is grounded and realistic.
- The E3 2018 trailer is not part of the main story, it's a side quest!
- The game is a original work of fiction they are not rebuilding history stone by stone.
- Main storyline will be Jin vs. the Mongols.
- Leader of the Mongols is an "uncomfortably reasonable killer" trying to intimidate our hero.
- The main character is called Jin Sakai.
- He's had to go beyond his samurai training in order to fight back against the Mongols.
- There a lot of stories in the game that you may not find them all.
- There are many side characters in the game, most which have sidequests.
- The theme of the combat is "mud, blood, and steel". Expect to get dirty and muddy.
- Possibility of other weapons but they're only showing the katana right now.
- Sucker Punch teases that Jin's combat style abandons some samurai techniques, swapping them for the "violent grace of a silent assassin".
- Jin has learned to use a grapple hook but this is not part of his samurai training. He's had to learn new tricks to silently kill the Mongols.
- Strong focus on minimalism for the graphics, you see the things that are more pronounce.
- "Movement" is the environment theme, expect everything to move - blowing trees, windy fields, falling leaves.
- Landscapes range from the swaying bamboo forests of the countryside, to the urban centers of ornate castles.
- Everything you can see in the background you can go to such as a Pagoda and Mongol ships, you have the freedom to go where you want at your on pace.
- They want to give players a lot of navigational options.
- There will be a minimal game HUD but they're not showing it just yet.
- Looks like there's a photo mode.
- You can play the game with a Japanese voice track.
- Jin's nickname is "The Ghost of Tsushima".
- Jin has become a "legend" in Japan called "The Ghost".
- Jin will change what is wearing. In a rain-drenched part of the world Jin has traded his traditional armor for a straw raincoat called a mino.
- You can ride a horse, is integral to the game. Horse's name is Nobu.
- Expect that level of detail (E3 2018 trailer) in the whole game.

^^ That all sounds incredible. Really hyped!

Sekrio news

Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice has no classes from which to choose, no character stats to level up, no option to create your own character, no multiplayer of any kind, no armour or weapons to find or equip, and no souls (or equivalent) to collect - or lose after dying. Just to reconfirm: Sekiro is the next big game by FromSoftware, the maker of Dark Souls and Bloodborne.

Indeed, Sekiro can scarcely be called an action-RPG. FromSoftware's Yasuhiro Kitao rather describes it as an action adventure game. One of the few elements that might seem familiar is your character's prosthetic limb - it's capable of hosting a number of gadgets, which you can find scattered around the world. That sounds pretty reminiscent of the trick weapons found in Bloodborne, if you had a temporary flirtation with a PlayStation 4 to enjoy that.

Hard to the core - Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice is a hard-core game worthy of the name From Software. Miyazaki designed Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice this way! Fans of From Software will find the gameplay challenging, yet fun and rewarding. The quality of combat, level of challenge, and creative enemies and bosses are something that can only be found in a From Software title.

Interesting, sounds more like a Naughty Dog style of game then

dang, Sekiro sounds like it could be insanely difficult. Still hardcore, but now its all skill... no levelling up or stat increases or anything.

dang, Sekiro sounds like it could be insanely difficult. Still hardcore, but now its all skill... no levelling up or stat increases or anything.

i like this.  more games should go this route. 

my only thing i don't like about GoW is because i want to do all the side quests i'm constantly over leveled making the game too easy. 

Sekrio news



Interesting, sounds more like a Naughty Dog style of game then

Honestly sounds more like a Doom style game. Where you can find hidden upgrades and weapons. Sounds interesting, I didn't like the art style much, buy the gameplay sure as hell looked great. It's definitely on my radar but not a day one purchase

i like this.  more games should go this route.

my only thing i don't like about GoW is because i want to do all the side quests i'm constantly over leveled making the game too easy.

It's one of the biggest unsolved problems in video games imo.

The reward for playing is increased power, but 99% of the time this is functionally equivalent to just lowering the difficulty. Zelda Botw took this bad game design to the next level!

It's one of the biggest unsolved problems in video games imo.

The reward for playing is increased power, but 99% of the time this is functionally equivalent to just lowering the difficulty. Zelda Botw took this bad game design to the next level!

Spoiler for summary of botw end fight structure:

<br>If you love the game and fully try to experience the world, you end up fighting the final boss with way too much health and way too much power.<br><br>But specifically there are 4 main quests that really break it. If you skip everything, the final fight is 5 bosses in a row with no pauses between them or checkpoints. However if you do these 4 main quests, you skip the first 4 bosses and the final one starts at half health.<br>

it really isn't that hard of a problem.  

the player only need to feel more powerful.  that can be achieved by rewarding the player with gameplay mechanics not power levels.  attack power/defence/health bars are archaic game design form an era where computers were limited in how difficulty could be managed. 

modern data science has solution to solve this.  i work with lstm in my work and i can see how easily it could be applied to game ai that learns player behaviours and adjusts difficulty through intelligence not power.  the cool part with this approach is you could monitor how long it has been since the player had a deadly encounter and ramp difficulty up when they have been winning and down when they are dyiung. 

game devs don't seem to interested in innovating ai though. its all about graphics. 

it really isn't that hard of a problem.  

the player only need to feel more powerful.  that can be achieved by rewarding the player with gameplay mechanics not power levels.  attack power/defence/health bars are archaic game design form an era where computers were limited in how difficulty could be managed.

modern data science has solution to solve this.  i work with lstm in my work and i can see how easily it could be applied to game ai that learns player behaviours and adjusts difficulty through intelligence not power.  the cool part with this approach is you could monitor how long it has been since the player had a deadly encounter and ramp difficulty up when they have been winning and down when they are dyiung.

game devs don't seem to interested in innovating ai though. its all about graphics.

Left 4 dead did something like that with AI. Also I'm pretty sure there was another game I've read about that worked that way.

It's cool but it's too "fake" for me. Same with just making the player feel powerful. I'm specifically talking about it from a game theory perspective where the player has full knowledge of the situation and is thinking rationally.

Bars are the best! You seem to like games as an "experience" for lack of a better word. It's about casually enjoying your time. I mostly ignore stats and optimizing in games, but I still tend to prefer games structured with clear cause and effect. As the player I can decide to play it casually but I know the game isn't cheating me. Like how Naughty Dog is moving towards having more systems and dynamics visible to their players. I wouldn't want Uncharted to have a health bar but I love having one in TLOU. TLOU2 is taking this further with a stealth gauge. The HUD doesn't just show if you're hidden; it shows how well you're hidden.

*I'm tired and rambling. Sorry in advance if this is gibberish

So like TES, Fallout, Deus Ex and lots of other great games? Seems the right choice imo for something like this

And I hope people enjoy the game for it but I simply don't like first person games.

And I hope people enjoy the game for it but I simply don't like first person games.

For shame

I thought Sony E3 conference was bad.

Well Nintendo always surprises me Sony E3 conference looks ok now :D

Left 4 dead did something like that with AI. Also I'm pretty sure there was another game I've read about that worked that way.

It's cool but it's too "fake" for me. Same with just making the player feel powerful. I'm specifically talking about it from a game theory perspective where the player has full knowledge of the situation and is thinking rationally.

Bars are the best! You seem to like games as an "experience" for lack of a better word. It's about casually enjoying your time. I mostly ignore stats and optimizing in games, but I still tend to prefer games structured with clear cause and effect. As the player I can decide to play it casually but I know the game isn't cheating me. Like how Naughty Dog is moving towards having more systems and dynamics visible to their players. I wouldn't want Uncharted to have a health bar but I love having one in TLOU. TLOU2 is taking this further with a stealth gauge. The HUD doesn't just show if you're hidden; it shows how well you're hidden.

*I'm tired and rambling. Sorry in advance if this is gibberish

it's not gibberish but we're not talking to quite the same point either.


lfd isn't quite what i had in mind. the actual AI in lfd is terrible.  all they did was create procedural spawn points based on very simple pacing algorithm.

lstm (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_short-term_memory) is the heart of how google was able to book a haircut (https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/8/17332070/google-assistant-makes-phone-call-demo-duplex-io-2018) over the phone with a digital AI assistant.  basically you provide it a sequence and it learns the sequence well enough to predict the next element of the sequence quite well.  it's good enough to feel like a human level of intelligence.  honestly, the early desire for multiplayer was a concession at the time that computer AI sucked.  today the AI could be as adaptive as a human.

you can still have a causal game experience with this too.  the algorithm has a "learning rate".  basically you can tune the algorithm to be as slow to learn as a toddler or as amazing at the smartest gamer in the world.  so you could still support a "easy", "normal", "hard" difficulty setting.


not that every game ever should take this route.  but at least 1 game should have explored this idea by now.  machine learning is pretty far along at this point.

Hoorry shame

AC Details:

• This is the biggest map in any Assassin's Creed game (probably not too surprising). There are lots of different biomes (forest, beast, snowy mountains).
• There are map regions that are separate from the main storyline and have self contained plotlines you can choose to engage in.
• The game is made by ten different studios: Ubisoft Quebec (Lead, made AC: Syndicate), Ubisoft Montreal, Ubisoft Montpellier, Ubisoft Kiev, Ubisoft Bucharest, Ubisoft Shanghai, Ubisoft Pune, Ubisoft Singapore, Sperasoft, and Technicolor Games (the last two are contractors).
• The game will have a live service with post launch updates similar to Origins.
• They're not talking about if Discovery Tour is in yet, which implies it's in.
• They're going all in on modern day content, though based on another interview, it sounds like it's optional this time.
• They have more quests where you can solve them non-violently. I'll just quote this one here. "We have a few quests where the objective is 'deal with it.'" he said. "For example, 'this guy owes me money, ok, deal with it.' You can go there and kill him and take the money. Or you can go and ask. Or loot the treasure box in his house."
• Some of the romance options are with people who are already in relationships, so going and romancing the person can mess with their other relationships.
• The game has "30 hours of interactive storytelling". To be clear, they're not talking about the length of the game here. There are 13 different ways to interact with people in conversations (with the number of options per conversation varying).
• "Most characters in the game can join your ship's crew". This includes most enemies and many civilians. They will offer stat bonuses and perks. They can also serve as land based distractions for stealth players.
• They redid stealth so it's worthwhile experience point wise and gave you a lot more stealth options ability wise.
• You can now map 4+ moves to face buttons (or bumpers) so you have way more options in combat. The skills and abilities are also notably more in-depth in terms of what they do, especially after you upgrade them.
• There's a city state based power system where you can kill regional leaders to weaken a city state, which not only makes the actual leader of the city state easier to kill, but can also trigger things like an invasion from neighboring city states who want to take over. There are 27 city states in total.
• There will be battles with up to 300 combatants. Get it? Get it???
• The game has multiple endings.

HOLY shame. This sounds incredible.

HOLY shame. This sounds incredible.

Assassins Creed and incredible will never fit the same place for me :(

Boring.

Assassins Creed and incredible will never fit the same place for me :(

Boring.

GTFO

Yeah sorry AC is awesome and this one looks soooo good!

GTFO

I can't stand this boring gameplay.

AC is not for me... I even forced me to Platinum's two games after give up on AC1 and AC2 just to make sure I was not wrong about it.

I can't stand this boring gameplay.

AC is not for me... I even forced me to Platinum's two games after give up on AC1 and AC2 just to make sure I was not wrong about it.

Each to their own I guess. I find AC to be nowhere near boring.

AC origins changed some things.

This however sounds like a fully new game that's playing dress up as AC. I love all those details you posted.

AC origins changed some things.

This however sounds like a fully new game that's playing dress up as AC. I love all those details you posted.

I wish ubi would just make a new RPG. They clearly want to add some fantasy elements, so why not just make a full new fantasy RPG? That would be great.

AC origins changed some things.

This however sounds like a fully new game that's playing dress up as AC. I love all those details you posted.

Yeah it sounds like a great game with great changes, but its not an Assassin's Creed game anymore. They should be making traditional assassin's creed games as well as this. This should just be a different RPG series.

Ashen interview and gameplay | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/ashen-interview-and-gameplay.48776/)

 

 Especially watch this interview on Mixer is longer and more gameplay. Looks really good. Love the world with the big beasts in the sky. Awesome enemies to. Game looks really good. Is done really and is coming in 2018. Just no date yet.

 Starts at 6:25:09

https://mixer.com/Mixer?vod=38247161

If you missed our @WatchMixer interview, here's a glimpse of some gameplay from Ashen.  ????????????  #E32018 #XboxE3 pic.twitter.com/W5F8SHVeeZ

— Aurora44 (@aurora44games) June 13, 2018

 

Game Critics Awards Best of E3 Nominees | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/game-critics-awards-best-of-e3-nominees.52098/)

 

Best of Show
 Anthem (BioWare/EA for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Marvel's Spider-Man (Insomniac Games/SIE for PlayStation 4)
 Resident Evil 2 (Capcom for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (FromSoftware/Activision for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Bandai Namco Studios/Sorta Ltd./Nintendo for Switch)

Best Original Game
 Anthem (BioWare/EA for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Days Gone (SIE Bend Studio/SIE for PlayStation 4)
 Dreams (Media Molecule/SIE for PlayStation 4)
 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (FromSoftware/Activision for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Skull & Bones (Ubisoft Singapore/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Xbox One)

Best Console Game
 Assassin's Creed Odyssey (Ubisoft Quebec/Ubisoft for PS4, Xbox One)
 Dreams (Media Molecule/SIE for PlayStation 4)
 Marvel's Spider-Man (Insomniac Games/SIE for PlayStation 4)
 Resident Evil 2 (Capcom for PS4, Xbox One)
 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (FromSoftware/Activision for PS4, Xbox One)
 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Bandai Namco Studios/Sorta Ltd./Nintendo for Switch)

Best VR/AR Game
 Astro Bot: Rescue Mission (SIE Japan Studio/SIE for PSVR)
 Déraciné (FromSoftware/SIE Japan Studio/SIE for PSVR)
 Echo Combat (Ready at Dawn/Oculus Studios for PC)
 Tetris Effect (Resonair/Enhance Inc for PSVR)
 Trover Saves the Universe (Squanch Games for PlayStation 4/PSVR)

Best PC Game
 Anthem (BioWare/EA)
 Battlefield V (EA DICE/EA)
 Metro: Exodus (4A Games/Deep Silver)
 Rage 2 (Avalanche/id/Bethesda)
 Total War: Three Kingdoms (Creative Assembly/Sega)

Best Hardware/Peripheral
 NEO GEO Mini (SNK)
 Poké Ball Plus (Nintendo for Switch)
 Starlink: Battle for Atlas (Ubisoft Toronto/Ubisoft for PS4, Switch, Xbox One)
 Vantage Controller for PS4 (SCUF Gaming)
 Xbox Adaptive Controller (Microsoft)

Best Action Game
 Anthem (BioWare/EA for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Battlefield V (EA DICE/EA for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 (Treyarch/Activision for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Metro: Exodus (4A Games/Deep Silver for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Rage 2 (Avalanche/id/Bethesda for PC, PS4, Xbox One)

Best Action/Adventure
 Assassin's Creed Odyssey (Ubisoft Quebec/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Marvel's Spider-Man (Insomniac Games/SIE for PlayStation 4)
 Resident Evil 2 (Capcom for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (FromSoftware/Activision for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Eidos Montreal/Square Enix for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Tom Clancy's The Division 2 (Massive Entetainment/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Xbox One)

Best RPG
 Divinity: Original Sin II (Larian Studios/Bandai Namco for PS4, Xbox One)
 Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age (Square Enix for PC, PS4, Switch)
 Kingdom Hearts III (Square Enix for PS4, Xbox One)
 Octopath Traveler (Square Enix/Acquire/Nintendo for Switch)
 Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Eevee! (Game Freak/Nintendo for Switch)

 Best Fighting Game
 Dead or Alive 6 (Team Ninja/Koei Tecmo for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Jump Force (Spike Chunsoft/Bandai Namco for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 SOUL CALIBUR VI (Bandi Namco for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (Bandai Namco Studios/Sorta Ltd./Nintendo for Switch)

Best Racing Game
 F1 2018 (Codemasters for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Forza Horizon 4 (Playground Games/Turn 10/Microsoft Studios for PC, Xbox One)
 Team Sonic Racing (Sumo Digital/Sega for PC, PS4, Switch, Xbox One)
 The Crew 2 (Ivory Tower/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Trials Rising (Red Lynx/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Switch, Xbox One)

Best Sports Game
 FIFA 19 (EA Vancouver/EA for PS4, Xbox One)
 Mario Tennis Aces (Camelot Software Planning/Nintendo for Switch)
 Pro Evolution Soccer 2019 (PES Productions/Konami for PC, PS4, Xbox One)

 Best Strategy Game
 Mutant Year Zero: Road to Eden (The Bearded Ladies/Funcom for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Total War: Three Kingdoms (Creative Assembly/Sega for PC)
 Two Point Hospital (Two Point Studios/Sega for PC)
 Wargroove (Chuckle Fish for PC, PS4, Switch, Xbox One)

Best Family/Social Game
 Dreams (Media Molecule/SIE for PlayStation 4)
 LEGO DC Super-Villains (Traveler's Tales/WBIE for PC, PS4, Switch, Xbox One)
 Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Eevee! (Game Freak/Nintendo for Switch)
 Overcooked 2 (Ghost Town Games/Team 17 for PS4, Switch, Xbox One)
 Mario Tennis Aces (Camelot Software Planning/Nintendo for Switch)

Best Online Mulitplayer
 Anthem (BioWare/EA for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Battlefield V (EA DICE/EA for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 (Treyarch/Activision for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Destiny 2: Forsaken (Bungie/Activision for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Skull & Bones (Ubisoft Singapore/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Tom Clancy's The Division 2 (Massive Entertainment/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Xbox One)

Best Independent Game
 Ori and the Will of Wisps (Moon Studios/Microsoft for PC, Xbox One)
 Outer Wilds (Mobius Digital/Annapurna Interactive for PC, Xbox One)
 Overcooked 2 (Ghost Town Games/Team 17 for PS4, Switch, Xbox One)
 Sable (Shedworks/Raw Fury for PC)
 Tunic (Andrew Shouldice/Finji for PC, Xbox One)

 Best Ongoing Game
 Destiny 2: Forsaken (Bungie/Activision for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 For Honor (Ubisoft Montreal/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Xbox One)
 Fortnite (Epic for iOS, Mac, PC, PS4, Switch, Xbox One)
 PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS (PUBG Corp for iOS, PC, Xbox One)
 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Siege (Ubisoft Montreal/Ubisoft for PC, PS4, Xbox One)

Rules for Game Eligibility
 

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To be eligible for nomination, games must be "hands-on playable" to voting publications for at least 5 minutes of gameplay during E3 2018.

 Due to this rule, the following games were disqualified: Battletoads (Xbox); Beyond Good and Evil 2 (Ubisoft); Control (505 Games); Crackdown 3 (Microsoft); Cyberpunk 2077 (CD Projekt Red); Daemon x Machina (Nintendo); Death Stranding (PlayStation); Devil May Cry 5 (Capcom); DOOM Eternal (Bethesda); Dying Light 2 (Techland); Fallout 76 (Bethesda); Fire Emblem: Three Houses (Nintendo); Gears 5 (Xbox); Gears POP! (Xbox); Gears Tactics (Xbox); Ghost of Tsushima (PlayStation); Halo Infinite (Xbox); Just Cause 4 (Square Enix); Madden NFL 19 (EA); NBA Live 19 (EA); Nioh 2 (PlayStation); Super Mario Party (Nintendo); Stormland (Insomniac Games); The Awesome Adventures of Captain Spirit (Square Enix); The Last of Us Part II (PlayStation); Wolfenstein: Youngblood (Bethesda).

 The above non-playable titles remain eligible for Special Commendations.Click to expand...

http://www.gamecriticsawards.com/nominees.html  

So they judge this off their own play experience and not what they've seen at different shows? Promising to see Anthem up there then, and more reason to get hyped for Spidey and Sekiro!