PS5 | ||
CPU | 8 Core AMD Zen 2. 16 Threads @ 3.5 GHz | |
GPU | 10.3 TF RDNA 2 Navi Variable clock up to 2.23 GHz GPU | |
RAM | Single Pool 16 GB GDDR6 448 GB/s | |
Storage | 825 GB SSD 5.5 GB/s raw throughput, 8-9 GB/s compressed | |
Expandable Storage | Playing PS5 games requires proprietary card storage Storing PS5 games can be placed on external HDD | |
Optical Drive | 4K bluray drive (100GB) | |
Backwards Compatibility | all PS4 titles | |
Special Features |
"The power of the new consoles is gonna be substantially greater than existing consoles," said EA CFO Blake Jorgensen during the call. "We can do a lot more [with PS5 and Xbox Series X]. Things we're doing will blow people's minds."
PS5, Xbox Series X Power 'Substantially Greater' Than Existing Consoles, EA Says - IGN (https://www.ign.com/articles/ps5-xbox-series-x-power-substantially-greater-than-existing-consoles-ea-says)Now that's a surprise
Sony officially announced PlayStation Meeting
— Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) January 31, 2020
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7 years ago today for what was then PS4. pic.twitter.com/tAt3UvaxpG
Tune in on February 15th for an exclusive look at the future of PlayStation. pic.twitter.com/96TwtCv33G
— PlayStation (@PIayStaton) January 31, 2020
I’m no expert on fake Sony Twitter accounts, but this doesn’t look like the official PiayStaton account to me
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) January 31, 2020
I miss this guy.I’m no expert on fake Sony Twitter accounts, but this doesn’t look like the official PiayStaton account to me
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) January 31, 2020
I miss this guy.Me too. Truly a legend among men.
I miss this guy.He still tweets on his own account but it just isn't the same.
I'm going to say:Only 50% before March 16? Id say like 80%
50% chance before March 16
100% chance before June 21
Switch was just a single youtube trailer for a while right? Xbox Series X is just 2 videos right now. What if you just get a small tease and then have to wait even longer lol.Wouldn't even mind!
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1223396587315122176 (https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1223396587315122176)Simpsons gif got me.
See the replies. Lol.
https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1223396587315122176 (https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1223396587315122176)Announcement tomorrow?
See the replies. Lol.
YouTube suggested this video today.The algorithm will force Sony's hand. If it can materialize disturbing kid videos, I'm sure it can materialize billion dollar consoles.
Algorithms are saying something is coming soon!
Playstation social media hq pic.twitter.com/k3vp505SZZ
— Kris ???? (@MrKrisJot) February 2, 2020
Sony has trademarked PS5 in multiple countries over the past few days.
— Gematsu (@gematsucom) February 3, 2020
US (1-29): https://t.co/H2B9SX0oer
NZ (1-28): https://t.co/zLyNFEz3ka
AU (1-28): https://t.co/HrtYRkuuP2
Switzerland (1-27): https://t.co/AfgK0K8zNx
And I think my hope for a February event is rising again.¿Por qué?
¿Por qué?No real reason, just feeling lucky. ;D
(https://static.giga.de/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/PlayStation-5_PS5_LOGO_Offiziell.jpg)Click to expand... Click to shrink...QuotePrice of the PlayStation 5 hasn't been determined yet; one important factor for that decision will be the price of the Xbox Series X (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/ps5-price-yet-to-determined)
During the company's third quarter earnings call on Tuesday, senior EVP and CFO Totoki was asked how the company intends to achieve his stated aim of a "smooth transition" to the next console generation. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
The questioner asked which factors Sony can control, such as marketing and development costs, and what the invisible elements are that make things tricky. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
"First, we must absolutely control the labour cost, the personnel cost, it must be controlled," Totoki said. "And the initial ramp up, how much can we prepare initially, we will work on the production and the sales and we will have to prepare the right volume as we launch this. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
"What is not very clear or visible is because we are competing in the space, so it's very difficult to discuss anything about the price at this point of time, and depending upon the price level, we may have to determine the promotion that we are going to deploy and how much costs we are prepared to pay. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
"So it's a question of balance," Totoki continued, "and because it's a balancing act it's very difficult to say anything concrete at this point of time, but when I said smooth transition, we mean that we will definitely choose the optimal approach and that we will try to have the best balance so that we will be profitable in the life, during the life of this product." Click to expand... Click to shrink...[/quote][/size]
it really winds me up when some people try to say Sony are dropping the ball and shame like that because they're hiding too much. Like do people not remember the PS4 launch? At this point Sony didn't even acknowledge PS4's existence and PS4 went on to be the biggest console launch ever and 2nd biggest console ever overall. Sony have already given us a lot of details about PS5 in comparison.... Since 2013 the culture has moved towards announcing things like this closer to release, so I'd argue that if you can criticize Sony's strategy in any way it might be that they've shown too much up to this point.Me too.
Me too.I agree with that silence thread since it's about PS4 mostly.
Like that Era thread about "Sony's silence". What on Earth are you people talking about?! Sony has been ridiculously talkative about this gen.
PS4 wasn't even announced yet.
Switch was announced some months before release too.
I agree with that silence thread since it's about PS4 mostly.Well it's a good thing next gen is backwards compatible. That might be sonys thinking.
PS5 though? Exactly as Xev said.
I think the wired posts were a mistake and Microsoft has been too eager to get good will from XSX. So many great games will come out this year for ps4/xbo yet unlike 2012, all eyes are already on next gen.
What PS4 games make your ???? race? pic.twitter.com/g2s4TAxgAA
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) February 12, 2020
Champions League has returned and Sony doesn't have PS4 ads anymore, now it's just the white PlayStation logo in a blue background.Apparently it's a sign of starting a new ad campaign. Might be a sign PS5 ads are starting soon.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-worldwide-studios-ot6-the-only-jrpgs-were-getting-are-jim-ryan-party-gifs.158292/page-375#post-29214141 (http://"https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-worldwide-studios-ot6-the-only-jrpgs-were-getting-are-jim-ryan-party-gifs.158292/page-375#post-29214141")4 days
Apparently it's a sign of starting a new ad campaign. Might be a sign PS5 ads are starting soon.
Feels like more (albeit circumstantial) evidence of PS5 showing soon.
4 daysWhat does the Nevada primary have to do with this?
4 hours 4 minutes to go.Until?
Until?Exactly 7 years since the PS4 was announced.
I was promised ps5 news!I was hopeful. :(
I was hopeful. :(I think ps5 is fake. No one has ever really seen one.
OP promised some news here!
I think ps5 is fake. No one has ever really seen one.Cancelled due to Corona Virus!
New favorite day may 5th.Oh it's such a perfect day.
Itsfuckingnothing.gifI think I'll make the machine bump this thread every day saying that.
— Mohamed Enieb (@its_menieb) February 25, 2020
What's interesting is when the Xbox One X was announced, they had the tagline that it was the "world's"I don't think facts matter too much for marketing but it will be interesting to see if that's their plan. They're sure using the word "monster" for marketing.
most powerful console.
It'll be interesting to see if they bring it back when pS5 specs are announced. So far they are being careful and only designating it as their most powerful console.
(https://i.imgur.com/9NujZC6.jpg)With modern "relatable" marketing, I'm assuming this is a real tweet.
With modern "relatable" marketing, I'm assuming this is a real tweet.If it was Wendy's Twitter, I'd totally believe it was real.
(https://i.imgur.com/9NujZC6.jpg)It's because it has 8tf.
Last day in the office for two weeks, the longest I'll have been away in 10 years of EG! Weird feeling, but shout out to Sony for agreeing to hold off the PS5 reveal until after I'm back
— Tom Phillips (@tomphillipsEG) February 28, 2020
I still don't get where Feb talk came from. Sure that was how they did PS4 but why is that what people went with?A lot of people still assumed that it would be similar, without justification.
Nothing with ps5 in 2020 has been like ps4 in 2013.
New favorite day may 5th.Going to say
Going to sayNo new favorite day?
100% chance of news before June 20th.
20% chance in March
25% chance in April
30% chance in May
25% chance in June
No new favorite day?May 5th is still my favorite day.
Regarding next gen consoles.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) March 12, 2020
Always discussions regarding the ongoing situation. No reason to think there is a delay to holiday launch. But things can always change very quickly.https://t.co/C0kfufoPrM
Please don't delay the PS5 launch.I'm thinking it's less likely.
Github leak was wrong about Xsx number of CUs. Further evidence that the info is wrongDid anyone predict these CU numbers despite github?
Did anyone predict these CU numbers despite github?Tom Warren did.
Did anyone predict these CU numbers despite github?I'm not sure to be honest.
— Galak (@Glaak4) March 17, 2020
PS5 details will finally be made public tomorrow. My TLDR version - It’s awesome. https://t.co/OirGgju86s
— Billy Khan????????? (@billykhan) March 17, 2020
that's amazing.— Galak (@Glaak4) March 17, 2020
Ready dreamers?fan made i assume.
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PS1 and PS2 are just software and legal issues. Would be cool if they end up being in there.why?
PS3 might be hard. CELL was funky cool. How well do PC emulators handle ps3 games?
PS1 and PS2 are just software and legal issues. Would be cool if they end up being in there.Depends on how they go about it.
PS3 might be hard. CELL was funky cool. How well do PC emulators handle ps3 games?PC emulators are pretty good actually. 54% run well, 37% run but have game breaking issues somewhere along the lines.
why?It's dependent on how contracts are set up for emulation. A company might be against bc for their games since it's far beyond the scope of the original license deal. I'd imagine the vast majority of pubs would be ok with it but it's still something Sony has to sort out.
if BC included discs how could playing the game the customer purchased cause a license issue.
more likely, if BC was only for digital download then the the only supported software is the software that publishers choose to publish to psn. the entire backlog won't be there (like on xbox) but a decent amount of publishers would probably be on board with more money,.. especially if it is sony doing the compatibility testing which is what I think MS did.
It's dependent on how contracts are set up for emulation. A company might be against bc for their games since it's far beyond the scope of the original license deal. I'd imagine the vast majority of pubs would be ok with it but it's still something Sony has to sort out.Are you sure something like that is actually in the contract?
Otherwise someone like me could just find an open source emulator and port it as an app.
Are you sure something like that is actually in the contract?Yes but I don't think it's ever been tested in courts. It's better to play it safe on both ends and keep pubs happy. No one wants to get a judge involved.
I think the bigger issue with the latter is that it could open up vulnerabilities, that Sony wouldn't want exposed.
Yes but I don't think it's ever been tested in courts. It's better to play it safe on both ends and keep pubs happy. No one wants to get a judge involved.BC is system wide for ps4 and xbox one...
So if bc was per game then Sony would contact pubs per game, and if bc was system wide pubs would contact Sony to be excluded.
That isn't the problem imo. Windows store for example does not allow emulators.
BC is system wide for ps4 and xbox one...Microsoft contacts every single pub before adding their game to bc.
i don't see this as a contract issue.
When asked how the two next-gen consoles compare, he says other devs are claiming PS5 "is the easiest console they have ever coded on to reach its peak performance". He goes on to say he thinks PS5 "is extremely simple and has so many abilities that make the devs so free". He concludes by stating PS5 "is a better console [than Xbox Series X]".
Salehi also praises PS5's ultra-fast SSD (http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/03/guide_ps5_ssd_storage_-_how_much_hard_drive_space_playstation_5_has_how_you_can_expand_gb_with_ssd_upgrades_and_why_its_better_than_hdd). He explains that Xbox Series X's quick resume feature -- which lets you put multiple games into a suspended state and switch between them within a few seconds -- could be achieved on PS5 "in under one second".
When asked which of the two consoles he personally prefers to work with, Salehi confidently says PS5 "without a moment of hesitation". He adds, "As a programmer I say PS5 is much better and I don't think you can find a programmer that could name one advantage that XSX has over PS5".
So it's pretty much guaranteed that PS5 will be cheaper than the X Series. What position will it put Microsoft in if PS5 launches cheaper than the S Series.price and games. i'm feeling pretty good about both going in sony's favor with ps5 vs xbox series x. if series s can launch at $300 it could be a major game changer in the gen's war. if it launches at $400 then series s will be completely irrelevant.
you can get an xbox one x for $300 today. seems to me that series x could hit $300 if MS really wants it to.Series S? It'll need to have at least a $100 lower price tag than the PS5 to be effective imo. $300 - $350 will work.
Series S? It'll need to have at least a $100 lower price tag than the PS5 to be effective imo. $300 - $350 will work.yeah,.. that was a typo. oops.
I find that guys story incredibly unlikely.What I got from it is that from a programmers pov, PS5 is better.
It might be possible there are some weird situations where PS5 might run better, but in general XSX should be slightly better.
PS5 games being revealed June 2 in the Official PlayStation magazine.
— Hunter ???? (@NextGenPlayer) April 27, 2020
More details on the DualSense Controller coming too.
Expect the big PS5 reveal to happen in the coming weeks #ItsHappening pic.twitter.com/mi3ULOCYUH
This isnt credible.What?
What?Apparently the latter image comes from tidux.
What?OPM UK have no insider information on playstation, they only pay to use the name. They know nothing except what all of us know already.
The Horizon sequel thing was apparently about the comic.... I mean come on, how dense can you be to word that like that on you cover.I think it's fine, ignoring the internet hype train hungry for any ps5 news.
I think it's fine, ignoring the internet hype train hungry for any ps5 news.I think it's the fact, it's being combined with that cover.
(https://i.redd.it/krtcsqe27bx41.png)What does it mean!?!?
What does it mean!?!?Sorry some context might help....
If timestamp doesn't work, it's 39:35. He did warn that COVID-19 may result in change of plans, but as of right now Sony plans are on track for early-mid june event.[/size]
This lines up with what Jeffrey Grubb mentioned before:QuoteJEFFREY GRUBB said: (http://vizioneck.com/goto/post?id=32689128) Now that I got the Nintendo story out of my system, let me update here:
Something is happening June 4, and it's next-gen games related. People saying Sony could still announce hardware before that are absolutely right. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
(https://i.redd.it/4hicchkp9ox41.jpg)lol. perfect!
With regards to me characterizing the early June PlayStation 5 thing as a "hefty next-gen event" and with "a lot" of games. I still think it should be significant, but it might not be quite as hefty as it was before.
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) May 18, 2020
Just announced at the Sony Corporate Strategy Meeting:
— Nibel (@Nibellion) May 19, 2020
"We plan to introduce a compelling lineup of titles [for PS5] soon" pic.twitter.com/OdW96vzYBI
QuoteA professional racing cockpit manufacturer based in Australia seems to have confirmed than Gran Turismo 7 will be be out this year this year which means it could be one of Sony's big launch titles for PlayStation 5.(https://www.thesixthaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/InstaNext.jpg)
Next Level Racing is an official PlayStation licensee, making very big and very expensive cockpits so players get a better simulation when playing driving games. On their Instagram page they asked "What racing game are you most looking forward to in 2020?" and posted four logos representing new games. Dirt 5 is shown and we know that's real, as is F1 2020 and AMS 2, the short name for Reiza Studios' Automobilista 2. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
Source: https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/05/20/gran-turismo-7-ps5-gt7-playstation-5-launch-games/
Gran Turismo 7 may have been leaked by a racing cockpit manufacturer (Next Level Racing "Denies") | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/gran-turismo-7-may-have-been-leaked-by-a-racing-cockpit-manufacturer-next-level-racing-denies.209640/)I really hope this is true, GT7 as a launch game would be fantastic.
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Source: https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/05/20/gran-turismo-7-ps5-gt7-playstation-5-launch-games/ (https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/05/20/gran-turismo-7-ps5-gt7-playstation-5-launch-games/)
Gran Turismo 7 may have been leaked by a racing cockpit manufacturer (Next Level Racing "Denies") | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/gran-turismo-7-may-have-been-leaked-by-a-racing-cockpit-manufacturer-next-level-racing-denies.209640/)Yes pls
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Source: https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/05/20/gran-turismo-7-ps5-gt7-playstation-5-launch-games/ (https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/05/20/gran-turismo-7-ps5-gt7-playstation-5-launch-games/)
I think it's possible for GT to be a lunch game. But what I'm expecting is thisThat'd be a poor showing.
Godfall and dark souls remake to ge launch titles.
Ratchet and clank first half of 2021
Horizon and GT second half of 2021
Possibly a japan studio game thrown into that mix. I wonder if bluepoint have had enough time to hit launch though, since they said the remake they are adding some of their own stuff to the remake. Maybe ratchet at launch and bluepoint first half of 2021
I think it's possible for GT to be a lunch game. But what I'm expecting is thisAs Pi said that would be a really subpar launch and I just don't see it.
Godfall and dark souls remake to ge launch titles.
Ratchet and clank first half of 2021
Horizon and GT second half of 2021
Possibly a japan studio game thrown into that mix. I wonder if bluepoint have had enough time to hit launch though, since they said the remake they are adding some of their own stuff to the remake. Maybe ratchet at launch and bluepoint first half of 2021
Not worth a thread, do you think PS5 remote play will support Vita?No, yes.
Is Vita truly dead?
?????Differences between BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY and PS5 ENHANCED
— Roberto Serrano' (@geronimo_73) May 31, 2020
Backwards compatibility will be delivered by OS update patches in the next months following the PS5 launch#PS2 #PS3 #PS4 #PS4Pro
PS5 Enhanced feature is ready to incoming games from July 13
Keep in mind #PS5 fans pic.twitter.com/ncNPTeEKkY
Someone on Era is claiming PS2 and PS3 games will be playable.That would be pretty cool.?????Differences between BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY and PS5 ENHANCED
— Roberto Serrano' (@geronimo_73) May 31, 2020
Backwards compatibility will be delivered by OS update patches in the next months following the PS5 launch#PS2 #PS3 #PS4 #PS4Pro
PS5 Enhanced feature is ready to incoming games from July 13
Keep in mind #PS5 fans pic.twitter.com/ncNPTeEKkY
Not sure if it's all games or if it's like PS2 on PS4 titles.
That would be pretty cool.Pretty cool is an understatement!
(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/m8uRUsNcZi7NVxCq5dWojW.jpeg)I think it needs more triangles.
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-ps5-devkit-patents-surface-show-6-fan-cooling-solution.219525/ (https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-ps5-devkit-patents-surface-show-6-fan-cooling-solution.219525/)Lots o fans.
i just read the emperor's new clothes to my son today...Spoiler for PS5?:
It seems like a realistic design, but seems too convenient of a place to see one.
i just read the emperor's new clothes to my son today...It's more of a box than the xbox. I hope that is not what it looks like.
...which is why i think it looks beautiful. those colors are exquisite. the design is so unique. i've never seen anything better.
There is nothing "PR" about the PS5 IO solution.VG24/7:Epic rewrite I/O subsystem with PS5 SSD in mind | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/vg24-7-epic-rewrite-i-o-subsystem-with-ps5-ssd-in-mind.218778/page-15#post-35885247)
It's really, really fudgy fast.
QuoteMatt said: (http://vizioneck.com/goto/post?id=35883129) I have see it in action, first hand.I now sense hundreds of goal posts moving in the Force after they scrutinize your post.
Even if you as a consumer don't consciously realize all the ways it will improve games on many levels, the difference for devs is striking. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
"Yes it's better for developers, but us consumers will not see any difference between XSX and PS5, if there are changes differences, it will be negligible. [img alt=
So apparently some leaks of the PS5 reveal happened. And somehow I managed to stay away from them. So how about we make a topic here to discuss them, with spoilers in the thread. So it's not ruined?I don't know of any leaks but that's a good idea if they show up.
Personally I won't make or participate in the thread I just dont want it spoilers for me here
That actually looks great, I'd be happy with that.Spoiler for PS5?:
It seems like a realistic design, but seems too convenient of a place to see one.
Not that this pic was needed to know it's fake, but I'm still glad to see it.Spoiler for design above is fake proof::
Do we think the PS5 event date will be announced tomorrow?I'm calling it will be tomorrow.
This is weak justification. And I don't think it'll really happen.I think all of that is true, but this is just marketing imo. They will talk about what they improved. Doesn't mean they managed to do everything players wanted.
But I think our chances of seeing BC beyond PS4 are better than we think.
A big part of the design philosophy of the PS5 feels aimed at fixing some criticism.
The PS5's powering and cooling system for example feels aimed at the PS4 pro fan issues. Something that Cerny mentioned a couple of times during the talk. He practically called themselves out about doing better here. And from the sounds of it they went to some great lengths to do it.
A smaller example is the battery life on the controllers. Hard to say how big the improvement will be, but they made that note as well.
Mark Cerny practically called out their BC issues too. "It cant be removed with a cost down.".
I know he is being factual here, but I wonder if his bringing up that criticism of the PS3 is telling of something more. Probably not. This is all weak justification.
But it's exciting to think about.
Looks like a Twitch ad has leaked the new PS5 event date as June 11. pic.twitter.com/lU0kt9IJGz
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) June 8, 2020
Article title: "PS5 UI revealed"Yes I get so much weird stuff too. Also, if I view the results of a football match Google will keep updating me with stories of the opposing team for weeks
In article: guy who designs stuff says "concept PS5 UI". "It does say concept UI, so it might not be final."
"With unreal engine as it's backbone, who knows what the limits are"
Google recommends me so many trash articles.
-New articles from strange websites about stuff that was known months ago.
-clickbait titles (free game! It's a new demo!)
This is weak justification. And I don't think it'll really happen.He did say their audio chip is like SPUs.
But I think our chances of seeing BC beyond PS4 are better than we think.
A big part of the design philosophy of the PS5 feels aimed at fixing some criticism.
The PS5's powering and cooling system for example feels aimed at the PS4 pro fan issues. Something that Cerny mentioned a couple of times during the talk. He practically called themselves out about doing better here. And from the sounds of it they went to some great lengths to do it.
A smaller example is the battery life on the controllers. Hard to say how big the improvement will be, but they made that note as well.
Mark Cerny practically called out their BC issues too. "It cant be removed with a cost down.".
I know he is being factual here, but I wonder if his bringing up that criticism of the PS3 is telling of something more. Probably not. This is all weak justification.
But it's exciting to think about.
Many are wondering about backwards compatibility on #PS5. I can officially confirm that the PS5 will be backwards compatible with the PS3’s price point.
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) June 11, 2020
Dis guy is fireMany are wondering about backwards compatibility on #PS5. I can officially confirm that the PS5 will be backwards compatible with the PS3’s price point.
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) June 11, 2020
The PS5 boot screen is insaaanely clean, can't wait to see what the menu looks like. pic.twitter.com/RTKrSLyrFf
— Chris (@ScreenDude6K) June 11, 2020
Play as Ratchet AND a mysterious new female Lombax from another dimension. #RatchetPS5 #RiftApart pic.twitter.com/aMDSAB77iG
— Insomniac Games (@insomniacgames) June 16, 2020
(https://imgur.com/JjA4rlY.jpg)[/size]
Found by Gamer17 (https://www.resetera.com/members/27886/) on the PlayStation OT.
July 13 > #PS5 price, release date and pre-order
— Roberto Serrano' (@geronimo_73) July 1, 2020
TBC
Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/geronimo_73/status/1278378284045271044)Well we don't have to wait long to see this one proven wrong! :DJuly 13 > #PS5 price, release date and pre-order
— Roberto Serrano' (@geronimo_73) July 1, 2020
TBC
Amazon.com: PlayStation: Best Place to Play: PS5 (https://www.amazon.com/stores/page/07A20468-F527-4562-8FB4-23F8ACBCD3A8?tag=igndeals14-20&ascsubtag=4d5cb926-3541-47b5-bcc8-65860919063c)Might be a new url but I personally visited that page weeks ago.
No price. Supposedly just went up..
(pretty sure it's been up a while)
Might be a new url but I personally visited that page weeks ago.Yeah.
Not that this pic was needed to know it's fake, but I'm still glad to see it.Did it reach your standard?
I want the PS5 to at least be interesting.
Did it reach your standard?You betcha!
I like Mondays. Think we'll get any PS5 stuff?I feel this week or next would be a good time.
PS5 shipments may reach at least 120 million units in next 5 years
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More pictures on this forum: https://bbs.a9vg.com/thread-8683081-1-1.html
Awesome if true. I guess Black PS5 is going to be a thing even if they don't officially make one.
I think this is pretty far fetched.Could also be a human thing. Person leaking to Bloomberg could be more confident now or maybe additional leakers are giving Bloomberg a more balanced perspective.
I have no idea how reliable digitimes is, just that they aren't as reliable as Bloomberg. But Era is talking about it.
I doubt it is accurate. Those would be insane sales, beyond Wii/PS4/PS2 levels. It'd be closer to DS levels of sales.
On a related topic, it kind of feels like something must have changed. There was a bit of pessimism with the first couple Bloomberg reports, low sales expectations and high price.
That last Bloomberg article seems like a huge change in optimism. I know they mentioned the pandemic, but I have to wonder if there was more.
PS5 production going better than expected, Sony wanting to push forward and cement a themselves, something else they think can drive sales.
Some pics of the PlayStation 5 shell (added official PS5 photo for comparison) https://t.co/hBwmwoNOQd pic.twitter.com/IIhxJljmS3
— Wario64 (@Wario64) July 27, 2020
I like Mondays. Think we'll get any PS5 stuff?In a way we already did.
I think this is pretty far fetched.i mean, it is a projection (aka guess). i also don't believe it. there always seem to be some pretty wild "projections" by "market experts" at the beginning of each gen. this is no different,. it's almost certainly wrong.
I have no idea how reliable digitimes is, just that they aren't as reliable as Bloomberg. But Era is talking about it.
I doubt it is accurate. Those would be insane sales, beyond Wii/PS4/PS2 levels. It'd be closer to DS levels of sales.
On a related topic, it kind of feels like something must have changed. There was a bit of pessimism with the first couple Bloomberg reports, low sales expectations and high price.
That last Bloomberg article seems like a huge change in optimism. I know they mentioned the pandemic, but I have to wonder if there was more.
PS5 production going better than expected, Sony wanting to push forward and cement a themselves, something else they think can drive sales.
The PS5's white plates are swappable, leaked pictures suggest | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ps5s-white-plates-are-swappable-leaked-pictures-suggest.256485/)i was already like 95% certain this was going to be true. makes this "leak" all the more dangerous because I "want" or "expect" it to be true. but some of sony's statements have been highly suggestive of this kind of customizability.
This is something we should start hearing more about soon.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) July 28, 2020
Deep level integration between the PS5 OS and Games to improve the overall experience for users. https://t.co/4pKre8nwy2
i would say "mentioned" because the details of this feature is extremely unclear to me. ps4 has those game pages that are largely unsupported by games. very curios to see both what is possible and how well games actually support it.This is something we should start hearing more about soon.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) July 28, 2020
Deep level integration between the PS5 OS and Games to improve the overall experience for users. https://t.co/4pKre8nwy2
Except it isn't really new. It was talked about in the first wired interview.
i would say "mentioned" because the details of this feature is extremely unclear to me. ps4 has those game pages that are largely unsupported by games. very curios to see both what is possible and how well games actually support it.Jumping into a killzone shadowfall multilayer match right away from the PS4 UI was amazing. It felt truly "next gen". But other games didn't support that and I forgot about it
Times changeJust give me the 20,000 forum bucks and we'll call it all square
New PS4 SKU drops the disc drive (https://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=2231.0)
Just give me the 20,000 forum bucks and we'll call it all squarePaid with interest.
Paid with interest.
I am pleased to say we will announce the price of the PS5 this week, just as long as @xboxP3 agrees to announce the price of the Xbox Series X first.
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) July 29, 2020
Good point. He must also sign a legal “no backsies” agreement.
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) July 29, 2020
I have found the obelisk hidden within Jeff Grubb's Summer Game Mess, and I now travel the universe reborn in the light of video games. It kinda sucks. pic.twitter.com/Q1rS5baY3K
— grubbsnax is back (@JeffGrubb) July 31, 2020
I'm now even more convinced TLOU2 multi will be free to play. What are the odds they announce it at state of play?Could it be ready day 1 for PS5? That'd be a great cross gen way to make it push next gen.
Could it be ready day 1 for PS5? That'd be a great cross gen way to make it push next gen.Yes I think day 1 PS5 launch cross gen and f2p is the safest bet for it right now. It was less than a year ago they decided it wasn't going to make TLOU2 launch planned for Feb (5 months away from delay point). So with 5 months to launch they finally made the decision to separate it, suggesting that its in a position where it could have been launched in 5 months but they wanted longer. By November it would have been 14 months, which I think is probably plenty of time for them. Would also be a perfect counter to Halo's multiplayer.
F2p makes sense imo too. Naughty Dog also pushed microtransactions with past games.
This is the first (second, if you count Athia) in a series of very big Sony x Square Enix collaborations. I was expecting to see them in this month's SoP, but now I'm not sure how are they getting announced.Then said these things in the PS Studios OT:
lol yeah. XVI is real. It was supposed to get announced in June's event. It's supposedly closer than most people would think. It has some kind of PS5 exclusivity (it was vague back then but it seems to be full timed exclusivity now). And I have no idea why they haven't announced it yet.
I'll be very clear on this.
Silent Hill is in a weird position where sometimes I suspect it was just bad info, although many credible sources confirmed its existence, I'm not sure.
I can only confirm one thing: it was never on the table for June's event. XVI and Avengers's Spiderman among other things were supposed to be there and were moved last minute. Silent Hill never was.
Spider-Man Coming to Marvel's Avengers Exclusively on PlayStation
It's never been a better time to be a spider-fan! The team at Crystal Dynamics, along with our partners, are overjoyed that we get to be a part of this hero's gaming journey. We can't wait for you to add Spider-Man to your Marvel's Avengers roster in early 2021, and as we've promised before, he will be available at no additional cost to owners of the base game, exclusively on PlayStation...unless of course you own an xbox.
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/08/03/a-friendly-neighborhood-spider-man-lends-a-helping-hand-to-earths-mightiest-heroes-in-2021/ (https://blog.playstation.com/2020/08/03/a-friendly-neighborhood-spider-man-lends-a-helping-hand-to-earths-mightiest-heroes-in-2021/)Yeah this feels like such a weird move from Sony. I don't really see what they gain from this at all. People on each platform are either going to buy the game or they aren't, it might persuade some people to get the PS version if they were considering others but its a post launch thing and I doubt many people will care by that point. Probably didn't cost much though, was most likely just part of the marketing deal.
...unless of course you own an xbox.
i'm not sure if this really sort of thing really helps move playstation hardware/software but oh my does the other versions of this game feel gimped to not have marvel's most beloved super hero. even though i'm a "beneficiary" of this deal it still feels slimy.
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/08/03/a-friendly-neighborhood-spider-man-lends-a-helping-hand-to-earths-mightiest-heroes-in-2021/ (https://blog.playstation.com/2020/08/03/a-friendly-neighborhood-spider-man-lends-a-helping-hand-to-earths-mightiest-heroes-in-2021/)Xbox version can have peter porker instead. Talk about upgrades.
...unless of course you own an xbox.
i'm not sure if this really sort of thing really helps move playstation hardware/software but oh my does the other versions of this game feel gimped to not have marvel's most beloved super hero. even though i'm a "beneficiary" of this deal it still feels slimy.
Xbox version can have peter porker instead. Talk about upgrades.i'm going to be soo angry if xbox get's spider ham and playstation does not.
PS didn't pull two rise if the tomb raider. Ms were wording that as it was an exclusive forever. And acting as if it were.Sony isn't hiding it which is def nice.
Sony at least is saying straight out that its timed exclusive
PS didn't pull two rise if the tomb raider. Ms were wording that as it was an exclusive forever. And acting as if it were.i agree. the lie was worse than then the deal.
Sony at least is saying straight out that its timed exclusive
PS didn't pull two rise if the tomb raider. Ms were wording that as it was an exclusive forever. And acting as if it were.Yeah man I'd forgotten about all that, MS were so fudgy shady. At least Sony are always straight up about this stuff.
Sony at least is saying straight out that its timed exclusive
From PS Blog:Timed exclusive dlc sucks. Just exists to make it annoying for people on the other platform.QuoteEven More PlayStation Advantages:
We previously stated that we're huge Marvel fans, but we're also PlayStation fans. We are honored to be working with them to provide additional advantages to PlayStation players. PlayStation players will have exclusive access to certain Community Challenges, where the PlayStation Nation will work together to accomplish a goal in order to gain rewards specific to them.
When it comes to cosmetics, PlayStation players will have 30-day exclusive access to a Legendary Outfit, Legendary Emote, Epic Takedown, and nameplate for each Super Hero as they are released - this is also for the six launch heroes. In addition, we also have rewards for those with a PlayStation Plus subscription. For each Super Hero added to the game post-launch, Hawkeye included, all PS Plus members will receive a free bundle that contains a Rare Outfit, nameplate, and 100 Credits to celebrate the addition of another Avenger to the roster. At launch, we'll have a free bundle for Ms. Marvel available for PS Plus members to embiggen our love for Kamala!
PlayStation 4 players will be the first to play the Beta! The Beta for those who pre-ordered on PS4 will take place from August 7-9 with pre-loading available on August 6. Following that, the Open Beta for all PlayStation players will be available from August 14-16 and August 21-23. You also do not need PlayStation Plus to participate in the Beta, so all your friends are free to join! For more information on the contents of the Beta, please see our previous PS Blog. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
Update: I've converted all the tweets to pictures given the account will probably be banned soon.
Link to original tweet:
https://twitter.com/Galaxyrain666/status/1293459335658364933
Sony's turn.maybe it is just the grainy picture but the left analog stick already looks worn...
New photos and impressions of the DualSense has leaked; battery capacity is 1560mA | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-photos-and-impressions-of-the-dualsense-has-leaked-battery-capacity-is-1560ma.266802/)
Sony's turn.Man the Dualsense looks and sounds amazing. I can't wait to use that thing.
New photos and impressions of the DualSense has leaked; battery capacity is 1560mA | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-photos-and-impressions-of-the-dualsense-has-leaked-battery-capacity-is-1560ma.266802/)
maybe it is just the grainy picture but the left analog stick already looks worn...I think its the lighting/ dust or something on the stick. Doesn't look like wear to me.
I think its the lighting/ dust or something on the stick. Doesn't look like wear to me.even better,.. the ps5 isn't even out yet and it's already collecting dust..
even better,.. the ps5 isn't even out yet and it's already collecting dust..Even better, the system comes pre-layered with dust for an authentic hasnt-been-played look.
Another angle on PS5 price from the fiscal report:What about marketing?
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Sony made 50bn Yen more profit than Q1 last fiscal year but expect to make the same total profit for the full year, so they expect 50bn Yen (or about $470M) less profit for the remainder of this fiscal year. That's despite a big expected gain in PS+ subs and a stronger looking holiday lineup of titles from third parties this year. Also in that period for FY2019, Death Stranding was the only relatively big game published by Sony. Compare that to the period coming this year with TLOU2 legs, Ghost of Tsushima, Spider-Man MM and probably a couple more bigger titles before April 2021 that we don't know about yet. You can see Sony state an expected operating income increase due to software, so this all makes sense.
The logical conclusion is that Sony are taking a $500M+ hit on hardware sales this fiscal year. On 10M consoles that would be $50+ loss per console, about the same as PS4. No way PS5 is more than $500 if that's anywhere close to being right.
As I analysed before, if $450 BOM is right then Sony would make a ~$30 loss on PS5 at $499 and $110 on PS5d at $399. If they sell equal amounts than an average $70 loss and I think everyone expects the disc version to sell more at launch, so a $50 average loss doesn't seem too far off, and that's probably a minimum estimate.
What about marketing?I doubt that marketing budget will change dramatically, they still constantly advertised PS4 and its games, that just switches over to PS5 now. Maybe there's a bit more of a push but its not huge.
I doubt that marketing budget will change dramatically, they still constantly advertised PS4 and its games, that just switches over to PS5 now. Maybe there's a bit more of a push but its not huge.as an insider i can confirm sony is increasing their marketing budget by $500M. Sony knows this sort of marketing commitment is required in order to sell their $600 next gen hardware..
as an insider i can confirm sony is increasing their marketing budget by $500M. Sony knows this sort of marketing commitment is required in order to sell their $600 next gen hardware..Lol what a crazy strategy that would be.
Man there sure is a growing group of people on resetera who are just desperately hoping for Sony to fudge up with the PS5.Certainly helps when a former mod was starting fan boy flames.
Certainly helps when a former mod was starting fan boy flames.Who used to be a mod?
Who used to be a mod?Aesthetic gamer/Dusk Golem (https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-aestheticgamer1-says-hes-heard-from-developers-that-the-ps5-struggles-with-4k-games-in-particular-says-to-to-expect-a-lot-of-fake-4k.267489/)
Aesthetic gamer/Dusk Golem (https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-aestheticgamer1-says-hes-heard-from-developers-that-the-ps5-struggles-with-4k-games-in-particular-says-to-to-expect-a-lot-of-fake-4k.267489/)Oh didn't know he used to be a mod.
RE8 runs perfectly on XSX, struggling with 1080p60 on PS5 (https://www.resetera.com/threads/dusk-golem-re8-currently-struggling-to-reach-stable-1080p-60-on-ps5-xsx-runs-perfectly-at-4k60.264930/)
Was also claiming that the XSX was going to be cheaper than PS5.
I'm guessing I mistyped something or a magic bot messed up what I typed.
Where did people get the idea that Sony just overclocked the GPU on its own instead of, you know, design a whole system around these speeds?
So...from nowhere?
Like, it's insane to think these clocks were some sort of last minute thing. The entire system has a clear design philosophy based around speed. The system is significantly more expensive and complicated to build in pursuit of this vision. It has required a lot of careful engineering and planning.
If these clocks were worthless, why would they do that?
You are choosing to believe a ridiculous premise based on...nothing.
...That's what the system is designed to do. That hasn't be hidden. The system has set power draw limits. To work under those limits, under higher workloads the GPU, CPU, or both might down-clock. These downclocks are not hundreds of MHz, very small reductions in speed give a lot back in power.
Yes, they are variable to get MORE performance out the the hardware, not less. I've said this before, but if the SX could magically run at variable rates with all else being equal, that would create a stronger system, not a weaker one.The thread continues to be a mess though, its so wild the mods haven't locked it. Meanwhile this thread was locked quickly: Why are there so many false and misleading rumors surrounding PlayStation 5? | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-there-so-many-false-and-misleading-rumors-surrounding-playstation-5.267666/)
The quote is about not taking advantage of the variable clocks. You can tell the system to run at max in development to run at max all the time and it will, but that's not going to give you the best possible performance. That's why it's not encouraged.
A summary of rumors dating back to 2019and people got bans for saying stuff likeThat's only a fraction of it. So much FUD. What's going on Era. Are launches normally like this? Why is PS5 by far the largest target of nonsense?
- PS5 lacks hardware accelerated ray tracing; Ray casting audio support only
- PS5 will have virtually no launch games; Series X will have an abundance of AAA games from the get-go
- PS5's GPU is based on RDNA -1, developed by Roblox user xXAiden-x2005Xx while on work experience at Sony HQ. Bosses ran with the idea because lack of funds
- Cerny boosted the clocks in a last ditch response to Xbox. PS5 is secretly a 9 TFlop machine.
- PS5 is having fabrication difficulties; not enough units at launch
- PS5 BoM is rising beyond control. Might cost upward of $600. Riiidge Racer!
- PS5 is overheating, continually crashing, and engineers are scrambling to fix the problem
- PS5 is hard to develop for, almost PS3 levels of incompetence
- PS5 has trouble reaching native 4K for anything more complicated than Frogger and Pong, developers might settle for 1080p
I've found it interesting that none of these FUD rumours have really occurred for the Series X.which is basically just true.
It's as if a particular base of people have been working overtime to try and tear-down the more popular/successful brand.
Some great posts from Matt in that thread:Wow when the rumors are summed up like that...
The thread continues to be a mess though, its so wild the mods haven't locked it. Meanwhile this thread was locked quickly: Why are there so many false and misleading rumors surrounding PlayStation 5? | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-there-so-many-false-and-misleading-rumors-surrounding-playstation-5.267666/)
and people got bans for saying stuff likewhich is basically just true.
(2/4) I think console warring is really stupid. The reason I shared them initially is I felt things were too sided despite knowing some accounts of what was about to happen. In some ways I do regret speaking out, but also it's reiterated my own reasons for sharing things, it's
— AestheticGamer aka Dusk Golem (@AestheticGamer1) August 13, 2020
It will be a long read guys ;)[/size]
Informations before we start :So with a cost of $381 for Sony's PS4, we can add around $50-60 for additional expenses (inventory, distribution, transport, etc...) if PS4 was sold at a loss at around $40-60
- Q1 = April-June / Q2 = July-Sept / Q3 = Oct-Dec / Q4 = Jan-March
- PS5 = PS5 standard / PS5 DE = PS5 Digital Edition
- PS4 sold 4.5m units during Q3 FY13 (Oct-Dec) and 3.1m during Q4 FY13 (Jan-March 2014)
- PS4 BOM according to research firm IHS was $372 (https://www.engadget.com/2013-11-19-ps4-costs-381-to-make-according-to-hardware-teardown.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAA2RdWB73PbBJZXmafUYwYb9w1S9_Sl6M9ptZl-OIAcuYZvNUMVc5vZP-Tg4sI5hkzZ9X1h98CnjVoHe_Bd7YgWbYUT7KHTuI4vkccaphhtTT-VPDm-MEcnK6fDVo-4xVTshRKcNJxYbSoRBW58_16b1IkFuzTkOSp0wijMovGR2), and higher at $381 once per-unit cost of assembly included
- PS4 was sold at $399 and was sold at a loss at first, probably between $40-60, easily offset by the purchase of a game & PS+ (https://www.cnet.com/news/playstation-4-to-sell-at-a-loss-but-sony-expects-profit/)
- We assume here that WSJ (Wall Street Journal), Nikkei and Bloomberg are right with their various reports about PS5
- PS5 BOM (Bill of Materials) would be around $450 per unit (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-02-14/sony-is-struggling-with-playstation-5-price-due-to-costly-parts)
- Sony reportedly increasing PS5 production to 10m units by March 2021 (https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-07-15-sony-reportedly-increasing-ps5-production-to-10m-units-by-2021) (end of Q4 FY20), up from 6m previously reported (https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-04-16-sony-reportedly-limiting-ps5-launch-window-to-6m-units)
If we follow the same path for PS5, we would add $10 for the cost of assembly with a total of $460 and then $55 for the additional expenses
--> PS5 total cost would be around $515
--> PS5 DE total cost would be around $487 ($515 minus $28 for optical drive)
Now look at the table below, for each quarter, there are some colors (think traffic light) :As you can see, for Revenue and Operating Profit, PlayStation saw its 3 biggest results for each quarter during PS4 generation
- Red : Biggest number ever for that quarter
- Orange : 2nd biggest number ever for that quarter
- Green : 3rd biggest number ever for that quarter
- Blue is my own predictions for this current fiscal year
(except few ones)
You can also see that during Q3 FY13 (PS4 release), PlayStation saw ¥12.4bn Profit and the next quarter, ¥10.7bn Loss
For FY2020, Sony expects ¥2500bn Revenue and ¥240bn Op. Profit
Disclaimer : If you add up Q1+Q2+Q3+Q4 Revenue fo FY2020, you won't have ¥2500bn Revenue but ¥2464bn, I probably underestimated my Q2 Revenue forecast
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I will focus this analysis on Profits, but will talk about Revenue a bit too when it's relevant.
I will also explain quarters from previous years to put these into context and to explain why I chose my estimates !
Of course, I will skip Q1 Results because we already had these results some time ago.
Q2 FY20 (July-Sept) :
Q2 FY18 had ¥90.6bn Profit, biggest profit ever for PlayStation during Q2
It had Fortnite + Spider-Man and major releases like Tomb Raider (and annual sports titles)
Q2 FY19 reached ¥65bn Profit with a weaker line up and without first party games
It had Control, MH Iceborne, Man of Medan and Borderlands 3 (+ annual sports titles)
Q2 FY20 will have TLOU Part II spillovers + Ghost of Tsushima success + HZD on PC
+ major releases like Tony Hawk and Avengers (+ annual sports titles)
+ strong F2P (Fortnite, Warzone) and the launch of Hyper Scape
Here is a list of games released during Q2 in previous years
Red titles = first-party titles or major releasesQuote(https://i.imgur.com/064Kfn0.png) Click to expand... Click to shrink...I also expect bigger Revenue from PS Store year-on-year due to :Bigger Revenue from Services too due to record numbers of PS+ subs + growth of PS Now subs too
- Digital growth (compared to last year)
- COVID (from countries with still partial lockdown, people who buys more digital now because they changed their habits)
- Bigger F2P spendings (Warzone was not there last year for example, Fortnite is stronger than last year (Epic expect bigger Revenue this year))
- Less people on vacation this summer combined with huge back-catalog available for cheap on PS Store with regular sales
Previous quarter (Q1 FY20) saw +$100M Revenue year on year and I expect the same this Q2 FY20 due to strong PS+ line up in July/Aug.
And I said strong PS+ line-up because they had record user engagement on social media during their announcements (NBA 2K20/Tomb Raider and MW2 Remastered/Fall Guys), PS+ subs will likely go up quarter-on-quarter and obviously year-on-year.
Here is a table where you can see my Revenue forecast for Q2, it will be, without a doubt, bigger than last year
I expect Software and Services to represent 83% of total PlayStation Revenue during this quarter, where margins are better and therefore better profits (vs Hardware revenue)
(https://i.imgur.com/AY7flgh.png)
If Q2 FY19 without first-party games, without Warzone, with a weaker Fortnite (than this year) and an equivalent slate of third-party releases, reached ¥65bn Profits.
Well Q2 FY20 with all the above-mentioned reasons, makes me think Profits will be better this year.
That would give +¥9bn (+$95M) in Profits year-on-year for a growth in Software/Services Revenue of ¥55.1bn ($540M)
So an operating margin of 16.33% which would be realistic given first-party releases this quarter (Ghost/TLOU2)
For the total results of Q2 FY20, ¥473bn Revenue and ¥74bn Profits would give an operating margin of 15.6%
It was 16.5% in Q2 FY18 (thanks to huge Spider-Man success) and 14.3% in Q2 FY19, still a good operating margin but less than Q2 FY18 due to the lack of first party titles (which are highly profitable)
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Now, we have Q1 results (from their financial results that you can find in this thread (https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-q1-fy2020-april-june-results-ps4-1-9m-ltd-112-3m-best-quarter-ever-for-playstation-strong-fy20-fct-23-4b-revenue-2-24b-profit.261453/)) + we have just done Q2 forecast
I remind that Sony expect ¥240bn Profits this fiscal year.
Q1 Profits saw ¥124bn and Q2 Profits would reach ¥74bn = ¥198bn Profits
So at this point, Sony expects only ¥42bn ($393M) Profits for Q3 and Q4 combined
I repost the same table to avoid you to scroll up/down to see the numbers !
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Now Q3 FY20 (Oct-Dec) :
We will start with Q3 FY13 (PS4 release), surprisingly Sony had ¥12.4bn Profit thanks to PS4 release
The amount of games & PS+ subs sold managed to offset the loss for each PS4
Profit also came from cost reductions (PS3)
Q3 FY17 had ¥85.4bn Profit, biggest profit ever for PlayStation during Q3
Explained by big increase for sales on PS Store (+43% year on year) with the release of Fortnite Battle Royale + increase in software units sales + GT Sport release
Combined with huge PS4 sales + big increase in Services revenue (+35%, to reach $600m for that quarter)
Q3 FY18 had ¥73.1bn Profit, decrease but still the 3rd biggest Profit ever for PlayStation during Q3
The decrease is explained by PS4 lower sales (8.1m this Q3 vs 9.0m in Q3 FY17) and promotional prices during Holiday season.
Despite really bigger spends on Store (+52% to reach $3.13B, 2nd biggest spending ever during a quarter on Store behind record Q1 FY20) + bigger revenue from Services (+$100M year-on-year) + Spider-Man keep selling
Q3 FY19 had ¥53.5bn Profit, big decrease due to no Spider-Man and Death Stranding not having the effect Sony expected (as stated in their financials) + big decrease in PS4 sales revenue (6.0m units this Q3 vs 8.1m previous year) and a weaker line up of third party games (compared to AC Odyssey/RDR2/Black Ops 4/Battlefield 5 in 2018)
Q3 FY20 will have the one the strongest Q3 line-up this generation combined with the huge install base of PS4 and PS5 backward compatibility
FIFA is now a Q3 release, unlike previous years
Crash 4 will likely perform very well on PS4 and is bigger than 2019's releases like GR Breakpoint / The Outer Worlds / NFS Heat / Death Stranding
+ likely strong performance of Watch Dogs Legion and AC Valhalla
+ one of the biggest release of the year, Cyberpunk 2077 which will probably make a good part of its initial sales on PS4 (like The Witcher 3)
+ COD 2020 release
Here is a list of games released during Q2 in previous years
Red titles = first-party titles or major releasesQuote(https://i.imgur.com/rTIdBKw.png) Click to expand... Click to shrink...For Q3 FY20 estimate, we know that PS5 will have Miles Morales at launch
A game that will be highly profitable, being a first party game
We will assume a $399 for PS5 DE/$449 for PS5 and that it will sell as good as PS4, so 4.5m units
We will now do 2 hypotheses, one with PS5 costing $487/$515 to Sony like I said at the start of the OP and one with PS5 costing $472/$500
Afterwards, another 2 hypotheses with PS5 costing $487/$515 to Sony but one with $449/499 retail price, the other with $499/549
The optical drive would cost about $28 in this hypothesis
Hypothesis 1 : $487/$515 cost for Sony with a retail price of $399/$449
So it would be a $66 net loss for each PS5 sold and $88 loss for each PS5 DE
We will assume that 20% of PS5 sold are PS5 DE so 80% is PS5 Standard (and then 40%/60% for the high range)
20%/80% : (3.6m PS5 x $66) + (0.9m PS5 DE x $87) = $238M + $79M = 317M loss
40%/60% : 178M + 157M = 335M loss
Hypothesis 2 : $472/$500 cost for Sony with a retail price of $399/$449
So it would be a $51 net loss for each PS5 sold and $73 loss for each PS5 DE
We will assume that 20% of PS5 sold are PS5 DE so 80% is PS5 Standard (and then 40%/60% for the high range)
20%/80% : (3.6m PS5 x $51) + (0.9m PS5 DE x $73) = $184M + $66M = 250M loss
40%.60% : 138M + 131M = 269M loss
Hypothesis 3 : $487/$515 cost for Sony but with a retail price of $449/$499
So it would be a $16 net loss for each PS5 sold and $38 loss for each PS5 DE
We will assume that 20% of PS5 sold are PS5 DE so 80% is PS5 Standard (and then 40%/60% for the high range)
20%/80% : (3.6m PS5 x $16) + (0.9m PS5 DE x $38) = $57.6M + $34M = 92M loss
40%.60% : 43M + 34M = 77M loss
Hypothesis 4 : $487/$515 cost for Sony but with a retail price of $499/$549
So Sony would gain $34 for each PS5 sold and $12 for each PS5 DE sold
We will assume that 20% of PS5 sold are PS5 DE so 80% is PS5 Standard (and then 40%/60% for the high range)
20%/80% : (3.6m PS5 x $34) + (0.9m PS5 DE x $12) = $122M + $11M = $133M profits
40%.60% : 92M + 11M = 103M profits
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Before I continue, just take a look at the Network Revenue (FY13/18/19 + my estimates for FY20)
Like before, Red means biggest number but for any quarter, Orange is 2nd biggest and Green is 3rd biggest
(https://i.imgur.com/aenUjFh.png)
With only ¥50bn Network Revenue in Q3 FY13 (PS4 release), Sony managed to have ¥12.4bn Profit during that quarter
And now, during Q3 FY18/19, there are more than ¥390bn Network Revenue, coming from PS Store and PS+/Now
It's almost 8x the Revenue of Q3 FY13
I estimated ¥435bn Network Revenue for Q3 FY20 which would be 8.7x Q3 FY13 Network Revenue
That would also be the 2nd biggest Network Revenue during any quarter
(4-5m PS+ subs in Q3 FY13 vs probably 47m+ PS+/Now subs in Q3 FY20)
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I repost the same table to avoid you to scroll up/down to see the numbers !
(https://i.imgur.com/9YJDa7P.png)
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Even with a weak Q3 (like Q3 FY19), Sony still posted ¥53.5bn Profit ($491M)
This Q3 FY20 has a lot more of major third party releases + highly profitable and probably successful first party (Miles Morales) compared to last Q3 (FY19) and next-gen releases should boost spending on PS Store compared to last Q3
Even if Hardware Revenue will increase the overall Revenue from the entire PlayStation division,
(I expect biggest Revenue ever during any quarter for any platform holder with about ¥865bn/$8.08B)
Software & Services Revenue should increase too year-on-year thanks to bigger line-up of third party releases + first-party release + next-gen boost
(https://i.imgur.com/53XCnkd.png)
If we sum up :
- Big releases planned for Q2 went to Q3 (FIFA/Cyberpunk)
- Bigger releases planned this Q3 (for Sony and publishers)
- Bigger Revenue from Software year-on-year due to bigger line up overall
- Bigger Revenue from Services year-on-year
- Those Network Revenue (PS Store + Services) are 8x higher than the same quarter in 2013
All guesses pointed to a better Revenue for this Q3 than Q3 FY19 but also better profits ! (so minimum ¥53.5bn like Q3FY19)
My forecast would have been ¥70-75bn Profits (if there wasn't any loss due to the launch of a new console)
But I remind you that Sony expects only ¥42bn ($393M) Profits for Q3 and Q4 combined
If we take into account an expected loss of about $317-335M (¥34-36bn) due to PS5 launch (for $399/$449 retail price)
My forecast of ¥70bn Profits would go down to about ¥34-36bn Profits for Q3 FY20
In the table, I forecast ¥29bn Profits to not exceed the ¥240bn Profits Sony forecasted for the fiscal year !
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I repost the same table to avoid you to scroll up/down to see the numbers !
(https://i.imgur.com/9YJDa7P.png)
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Now Q4 FY20 (Jan-Mar 2021) :
Q4 FY13 (Jan-Mar 2014) saw ¥10.7bn Loss despite huge PS4 sales (3.0 units) with about 5.7m PS+ subs
That loss shows how weak was PS3 software wise and how low PlayStation Network spendings were
Take a look at the table below to see the Network Revenue during Q4 FY13 (only ¥70bn)
And compare that Network Revenue to PSN nowadays (5x higher now)
(https://i.imgur.com/cYJ1eIa.png)
Q4 FY18 (Jan-Mar 2019) posted ¥63.9bn Profit, biggest profit ever for PlayStation during Q4
Explained by Fortnite and big releases (AC7, KH3, RE2 Remake, Far Cry New Dawn, Anthem, Sekiro, The Division 2, Metro Exodus) + Apex Legends release
Q4 FY19 (Jan-Mar 2020) posted ¥46.2bn Profit, 2nd biggest profit ever for PlayStation during Q4
Explained by Fortnite/Apex + Warzone release + big Q3 releases keep selling (MW/Jedi Fallen Order) + some major releases despite being weaker (DBZ Kakarot, Nioh 2, KH3 Re Mind, Dreams, Doom Eternal, MW2 Remastered)
But especially major spending on Store due to lockdowns (almost flat from Q4 FY18 despite way weaker line-up of games)
Q4 FY20 (Jan-March 2021)
With a probably big 1st party game planned for that quarter + PSN stronger than ever (Store + Services) + strong PS4 game sales + PS5 games sales, unlike Q4 FY13, Q4 FY20 will be likely profitable (a forecast of ¥35-45bn Profits would have been realistic)
We will assume 3.0m PS5 units sold with the same loss than Hypothesis 1
That would give $211-223M loss (¥22.6-23.9bn)
Overall, Q4 Profits would be ¥11-21bn ($103-196M)
--> In the table, I put ¥13bn for Q4 Profits forecast
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In conclusion, I think I showed why, in my opinion, Operating Profit forecast from Sony definitely hints to a price at less than $499.
You can't have the biggest Revenue ever during any quarter (Q3 FY20), of course inflated by Hardware revenue boost but also with Software & Services Revenue this high (as previously explained/shown) and having not this much profits, especially when you have a major first party planned for launch !
You can't have a record breaking Q1 FY20 with more than ¥124bn Profits ($1.152B) and forecast "only" ¥240bn for the the entire fiscal year when you will post some great profits during Q2 following TLOU Part II/Ghost success, as well as HZD PC release
Q2+Q3+Q4 FY19 Profits reached ¥164.6bn ($1.52B)
Q2+Q3+Q4 FY20 Profits would be ¥116bn ($1.08B) with a better/bigger line-up of first party games, third party games and stronger F2P ?
The only explanation for only ¥240bn (2.24B) Profits is because Sony expect some loss with PS5 launch, and the loss will come from Hardware.
A price under $499 would explain why they expect only ¥240bn ($2.24B) Profits and not ¥300bn+ ($2.80B+)
Analysis : Why does Sony's Operating Profit forecast indicate PS5 will probably cost less than $499 ? | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/analysis-why-does-sonys-operating-profit-forecast-indicate-ps5-will-probably-cost-less-than-499.268251/)Oh hell yes, I love ArmGunar when he does this. Basically same as I do but way more rigorous.
Analysis : Why does Sony's Operating Profit forecast indicate PS5 will probably cost less than $499 ? | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/analysis-why-does-sonys-operating-profit-forecast-indicate-ps5-will-probably-cost-less-than-499.268251/)All of that because Sony isn't providing any information. What have they done lol.
I also expect bigger Revenue from PS Store year-on-year due to :
- Digital growth (compared to last year)
- COVID (from countries with still partial lockdown, people who buys more digital now because they changed their habits)
- Bigger F2P spendings (Warzone was not there last year for example, Fortnite is stronger than last year (Epic expect bigger Revenue this year))
- Less people on vacation this summer combined with huge back-catalog available for cheap on PS Store with regular sales
Bigger Revenue from Services too due to record numbers of PS+ subs + growth of PS Now subs too
Previous quarter (Q1 FY20) saw +$100M Revenue year on year and I expect the same this Q2 FY20 due to strong PS+ line up in July/Aug.
And I said strong PS+ line-up because they had record user engagement on social media during their announcements (NBA 2K20/Tomb Raider and MW2 Remastered/Fall Guys), PS+ subs will likely go up quarter-on-quarter and obviously year-on-year.
Here is a table where you can see my Revenue forecast for Q2, it will be, without a doubt, bigger than last year
I expect Software and Services to represent 83% of total PlayStation Revenue during this quarter, where margins are better and therefore better profits (vs Hardware revenue)
(https://i.imgur.com/AY7flgh.png)
If Q2 FY19 without first-party games, without Warzone, with a weaker Fortnite (than this year) and an equivalent slate of third-party releases, reached ¥65bn Profits.
Well Q2 FY20 with all the above-mentioned reasons, makes me think Profits will be better this year.
That would give +¥9bn (+$95M) in Profits year-on-year for a growth in Software/Services Revenue of ¥55.1bn ($540M)
So an operating margin of 16.33% which would be realistic given first-party releases this quarter (Ghost/TLOU2)
For the total results of Q2 FY20, ¥473bn Revenue and ¥74bn Profits would give an operating margin of 15.6%
It was 16.5% in Q2 FY18 (thanks to huge Spider-Man success) and 14.3% in Q2 FY19, still a good operating margin but less than Q2 FY18 due to the lack of first party titles (which are highly profitable)
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Now, we have Q1 results (from their financial results that you can find in this thread (https://www.resetera.com/threads/sony-q1-fy2020-april-june-results-ps4-1-9m-ltd-112-3m-best-quarter-ever-for-playstation-strong-fy20-fct-23-4b-revenue-2-24b-profit.261453/)) + we have just done Q2 forecast
I remind that Sony expect ¥240bn Profits this fiscal year.
Q1 Profits saw ¥124bn and Q2 Profits would reach ¥74bn = ¥198bn Profits
So at this point, Sony expects only ¥42bn ($393M) Profits for Q3 and Q4 combined
I repost the same table to avoid you to scroll up/down to see the numbers !
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(https://i.imgur.com/9YJDa7P.png)
Now Q3 FY20 (Oct-Dec) :
We will start with Q3 FY13 (PS4 release), surprisingly Sony had ¥12.4bn Profit thanks to PS4 release
The amount of games & PS+ subs sold managed to offset the loss for each PS4
Profit also came from cost reductions (PS3)
Q3 FY17 had ¥85.4bn Profit, biggest profit ever for PlayStation during Q3
Explained by big increase for sales on PS Store (+43% year on year) with the release of Fortnite Battle Royale + increase in software units sales + GT Sport release
Combined with huge PS4 sales + big increase in Services revenue (+35%, to reach $600m for that quarter)
Q3 FY18 had ¥73.1bn Profit, decrease but still the 3rd biggest Profit ever for PlayStation during Q3
The decrease is explained by PS4 lower sales (8.1m this Q3 vs 9.0m in Q3 FY17) and promotional prices during Holiday season.
Despite really bigger spends on Store (+52% to reach $3.13B, 2nd biggest spending ever during a quarter on Store behind record Q1 FY20) + bigger revenue from Services (+$100M year-on-year) + Spider-Man keep selling
Q3 FY19 had ¥53.5bn Profit, big decrease due to no Spider-Man and Death Stranding not having the effect Sony expected (as stated in their financials) + big decrease in PS4 sales revenue (6.0m units this Q3 vs 8.1m previous year) and a weaker line up of third party games (compared to AC Odyssey/RDR2/Black Ops 4/Battlefield 5 in 2018)
Q3 FY20 will have the one the strongest Q3 line-up this generation combined with the huge install base of PS4 and PS5 backward compatibility
FIFA is now a Q3 release, unlike previous years
Crash 4 will likely perform very well on PS4 and is bigger than 2019's releases like GR Breakpoint / The Outer Worlds / NFS Heat / Death Stranding
+ likely strong performance of Watch Dogs Legion and AC Valhalla
+ one of the biggest release of the year, Cyberpunk 2077 which will probably make a good part of its initial sales on PS4 (like The Witcher 3)
+ COD 2020 release
Here is a list of games released during Q2 in previous years
Red titles = first-party titles or major releasesFor Q3 FY20 estimate, we know that PS5 will have Miles Morales at launch
A game that will be highly profitable, being a first party game
We will assume a $399 for PS5 DE/$449 for PS5 and that it will sell as good as PS4, so 4.5m units
We will now do 2 hypotheses, one with PS5 costing $487/$515 to Sony like I said at the start of the OP and one with PS5 costing $472/$500
Afterwards, another 2 hypotheses with PS5 costing $487/$515 to Sony but one with $449/499 retail price, the other with $499/549
The optical drive would cost about $28 in this hypothesis
Hypothesis 1 : $487/$515 cost for Sony with a retail price of $399/$449
So it would be a $66 net loss for each PS5 sold and $88 loss for each PS5 DE
We will assume that 20% of PS5 sold are PS5 DE so 80% is PS5 Standard (and then 40%/60% for the high range)
20%/80% : (3.6m PS5 x $66) + (0.9m PS5 DE x $87) = $238M + $79M = 317M loss
40%/60% : 178M + 157M = 335M loss
Hypothesis 2 : $472/$500 cost for Sony with a retail price of $399/$449
So it would be a $51 net loss for each PS5 sold and $73 loss for each PS5 DE
We will assume that 20% of PS5 sold are PS5 DE so 80% is PS5 Standard (and then 40%/60% for the high range)
20%/80% : (3.6m PS5 x $51) + (0.9m PS5 DE x $73) = $184M + $66M = 250M loss
40%.60% : 138M + 131M = 269M loss
Hypothesis 3 : $487/$515 cost for Sony but with a retail price of $449/$499
So it would be a $16 net loss for each PS5 sold and $38 loss for each PS5 DE
We will assume that 20% of PS5 sold are PS5 DE so 80% is PS5 Standard (and then 40%/60% for the high range)
20%/80% : (3.6m PS5 x $16) + (0.9m PS5 DE x $38) = $57.6M + $34M = 92M loss
40%.60% : 43M + 34M = 77M loss
Hypothesis 4 : $487/$515 cost for Sony but with a retail price of $499/$549
So Sony would gain $34 for each PS5 sold and $12 for each PS5 DE sold
We will assume that 20% of PS5 sold are PS5 DE so 80% is PS5 Standard (and then 40%/60% for the high range)
20%/80% : (3.6m PS5 x $34) + (0.9m PS5 DE x $12) = $122M + $11M = $133M profits
40%.60% : 92M + 11M = 103M profits
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Before I continue, just take a look at the Network Revenue (FY13/18/19 + my estimates for FY20)
Like before, Red means biggest number but for any quarter, Orange is 2nd biggest and Green is 3rd biggest
(https://i.imgur.com/aenUjFh.png)
With only ¥50bn Network Revenue in Q3 FY13 (PS4 release), Sony managed to have ¥12.4bn Profit during that quarter
And now, during Q3 FY18/19, there are more than ¥390bn Network Revenue, coming from PS Store and PS+/Now
It's almost 8x the Revenue of Q3 FY13
I estimated ¥435bn Network Revenue for Q3 FY20 which would be 8.7x Q3 FY13 Network Revenue
That would also be the 2nd biggest Network Revenue during any quarter
(4-5m PS+ subs in Q3 FY13 vs probably 47m+ PS+/Now subs in Q3 FY20)
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I repost the same table to avoid you to scroll up/down to see the numbers !
(https://i.imgur.com/9YJDa7P.png)
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Even with a weak Q3 (like Q3 FY19), Sony still posted ¥53.5bn Profit ($491M)
This Q3 FY20 has a lot more of major third party releases + highly profitable and probably successful first party (Miles Morales) compared to last Q3 (FY19) and next-gen releases should boost spending on PS Store compared to last Q3
Even if Hardware Revenue will increase the overall Revenue from the entire PlayStation division,
(I expect biggest Revenue ever during any quarter for any platform holder with about ¥865bn/$8.08B)
Software & Services Revenue should increase too year-on-year thanks to bigger line-up of third party releases + first-party release + next-gen boost
(https://i.imgur.com/53XCnkd.png)
If we sum up :
- Big releases planned for Q2 went to Q3 (FIFA/Cyberpunk)
- Bigger releases planned this Q3 (for Sony and publishers)
- Bigger Revenue from Software year-on-year due to bigger line up overall
- Bigger Revenue from Services year-on-year
- Those Network Revenue (PS Store + Services) are 8x higher than the same quarter in 2013
All guesses pointed to a better Revenue for this Q3 than Q3 FY19 but also better profits ! (so minimum ¥53.5bn like Q3FY19)
My forecast would have been ¥70-75bn Profits (if there wasn't any loss due to the launch of a new console)
But I remind you that Sony expects only ¥42bn ($393M) Profits for Q3 and Q4 combined
If we take into account an expected loss of about $317-335M (¥34-36bn) due to PS5 launch (for $399/$449 retail price)
My forecast of ¥70bn Profits would go down to about ¥34-36bn Profits for Q3 FY20
In the table, I forecast ¥29bn Profits to not exceed the ¥240bn Profits Sony forecasted for the fiscal year !
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I repost the same table to avoid you to scroll up/down to see the numbers !
(https://i.imgur.com/9YJDa7P.png)
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Now Q4 FY20 (Jan-Mar 2021) :
Q4 FY13 (Jan-Mar 2014) saw ¥10.7bn Loss despite huge PS4 sales (3.0 units) with about 5.7m PS+ subs
That loss shows how weak was PS3 software wise and how low PlayStation Network spendings were
Take a look at the table below to see the Network Revenue during Q4 FY13 (only ¥70bn)
And compare that Network Revenue to PSN nowadays (5x higher now)
(https://i.imgur.com/cYJ1eIa.png)
Q4 FY18 (Jan-Mar 2019) posted ¥63.9bn Profit, biggest profit ever for PlayStation during Q4
Explained by Fortnite and big releases (AC7, KH3, RE2 Remake, Far Cry New Dawn, Anthem, Sekiro, The Division 2, Metro Exodus) + Apex Legends release
Q4 FY19 (Jan-Mar 2020) posted ¥46.2bn Profit, 2nd biggest profit ever for PlayStation during Q4
Explained by Fortnite/Apex + Warzone release + big Q3 releases keep selling (MW/Jedi Fallen Order) + some major releases despite being weaker (DBZ Kakarot, Nioh 2, KH3 Re Mind, Dreams, Doom Eternal, MW2 Remastered)
But especially major spending on Store due to lockdowns (almost flat from Q4 FY18 despite way weaker line-up of games)
Q4 FY20 (Jan-March 2021)
With a probably big 1st party game planned for that quarter + PSN stronger than ever (Store + Services) + strong PS4 game sales + PS5 games sales, unlike Q4 FY13, Q4 FY20 will be likely profitable (a forecast of ¥35-45bn Profits would have been realistic)
We will assume 3.0m PS5 units sold with the same loss than Hypothesis 1
That would give $211-223M loss (¥22.6-23.9bn)
Overall, Q4 Profits would be ¥11-21bn ($103-196M)
--> In the table, I put ¥13bn for Q4 Profits forecast
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In conclusion, I think I showed why, in my opinion, Operating Profit forecast from Sony definitely hints to a price at less than $499.
You can't have the biggest Revenue ever during any quarter (Q3 FY20), of course inflated by Hardware revenue boost but also with Software & Services Revenue this high (as previously explained/shown) and having not this much profits, especially when you have a major first party planned for launch !
You can't have a record breaking Q1 FY20 with more than ¥124bn Profits ($1.152B) and forecast "only" ¥240bn for the the entire fiscal year when you will post some great profits during Q2 following TLOU Part II/Ghost success, as well as HZD PC release
Q2+Q3+Q4 FY19 Profits reached ¥164.6bn ($1.52B)
Q2+Q3+Q4 FY20 Profits would be ¥116bn ($1.08B) with a better/bigger line-up of first party games, third party games and stronger F2P ?
The only explanation for only ¥240bn (2.24B) Profits is because Sony expect some loss with PS5 launch, and the loss will come from Hardware.
A price under $499 would explain why they expect only ¥240bn ($2.24B) Profits and not ¥300bn+ ($2.80B+)
Man its been too long since we even got some juicy PS5 rumours never mind anything new officially announced. Do something this coming week plz Sony!Next week.
Next week.Is that a prediction?
Is that a prediction?I'm just busy this week lol.
Man its been too long since we even got some juicy PS5 rumours never mind anything new officially announced. Do something this coming week plz Sony!At this point i would settle for non-juicy rumors.
A lot of people on ERA are now thinking the consoles are going to be $600.i don't believe it. every console generation has had some level of subsidy. If the bill of materials is around $450 then a $600 console would be a straight up profit for ps5. If the bill of materials is around $500 then a $600 be at least a break even for xbox. That would be very uncharacteristic of a console imo.
A lot of people on ERA are now thinking the consoles are going to be $600.A lot of people are wrong. They're just using the bogus logic of: well if we haven't heard yet it must be bad and they're trying to hold off.
A lot of people are wrong. They're just using the bogus logic of: well if we haven't heard yet it must be bad and they're trying to hold off.Aye I know. It's pretty absurd. ;D
i don't believe it. every console generation has had some level of subsidy.Now, even more so when consoles are used to push services as well as games.
[/size]This might rollout worldwide today or maybe someone in Hungary ended up posting ahead of time- It already got "removed" from the official PS Hungary channel, so this was not supposed to go live now
(Mirror by Midas (https://www.resetera.com/members/12645/))
First PS5 ad: "Welcome To A New World" | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/first-ps5-ad-welcome-to-a-new-world.271437/)Yeah this is 100% for the champions league final. It would also make sense for them to announce the date for the next show beforehand so people who google PS5 during the final see the date, it would generate a lot more viewers.
Yeah this is 100% for the champions league final. It would also make sense for them to announce the date for the next show beforehand so people who google PS5 during the final see the date, it would generate a lot more viewers.Don't give me false hope!
CL final normally gets around 300-400 million viewers worldwide if you were wondering.
Don't give me false hope!Yeah its unlikely but you never know.
It would basically have to be announced tomorrow.
Watch #PS5's first global ad spot, showcasing immersive features including 3D Audio and the DualSense.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) August 20, 2020
Read on to learn how devs are harnessing DualSense’s adaptive triggers and haptics: https://t.co/Y79pSzkGsU https://t.co/yiGWIQ6MZQ
So that's what this was.
Probably nothing, but we will see!
Presenting PlayStation's first global ad spot showcasing key immersive features for the PS5 console generation - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2020/08/20/presenting-playstations-first-global-ad-spot-showcasing-key-immersive-features-for-the-ps5-console-generation/)"The haptic feedback precision allows us to do all sorts of new things. In Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, we'll be hinting to players which direction attacks are coming from by providing haptic feedback from the appropriate direction on the DualSense wireless controller. What does it feel like to use Miles's stealth ability? How does a Venom Blast feel? Because of the high resolution of DualSense wireless controller's haptics system, we can really push the dimensionality of the feedback. For instance, as you hold down Square to do a Venom Punch, you feel Spider-Man's bio-electricity crackle across from the left side of the controller, culminating in the right side on impact."
How it feels to chew 5 gumI think it's interesting the digital edition wasn't in the ad.
Ad didn't really work for me haha.
I say for I think the second time. It's crazy to me how many people are expecting $599 consoles right now.good. that way when they are $499 people will be happy.
I say for I think the second time. It's crazy to me how many people are expecting $599 consoles right now.I can see the series x being 599 though
I think the pandemic will have a smaller effect now, but for a while I was thinking $699 could happen.Wat?
I think the pandemic will have a smaller effect now, but for a while I was thinking $699 could happen.Absolute madness.
Wat?If it was still difficult to manufacture and ship the consoles, prices would have to go up unless the companies ate the costs.
Absolute madness.Delaying them would have probably been smart if that ended up being the case.
PS5 would be dead in the water.
If it was still difficult to manufacture and ship the consoles, prices would have to go up unless the companies ate the costs.Delaying them would have probably been smart if that ended up being the case.No way it'd go up by that much though. Manufacturing cost for a console is like $10, shipping is probably not too much more than that per console. Even doubling the costs would be less than $50 increase.
No way it'd go up by that much though. Manufacturing cost for a console is like $10, shipping is probably not too much more than that per console. Even doubling the costs would be less than $50 increase."Wat?"
PS5 Retail Boxes Might Now Be Black Instead Of Bluehttps://t.co/9ixiF2KFkk#PS5 #PlayStation5 #PS5BoxArt #NBA2K21 #2K pic.twitter.com/ssLEucMFXv
— PlayStation Universe (@PSUdotcom) August 21, 2020
"Wat?"Well I said that because we already heard from Bloomberg that covid was driving BOM up to $450, so $699 would be absolutely absurd unless costs of manufacturing and shipping were astronomical. We already knew the impact from covid and it wasn't that bad.
Talking bout all of manufacturing, not just assembly. Prices go up when a majority of the world's population is at home due to a pandemic. Thank god most of the world has been able to recover from it faster than the worst predictions.
In other news, RE8 will most likely be great, RE4 is in a bit of a worrying position right now, Silent Hill is still in dev, something Shenmue related will be revealed in 1-2 weeks, a PS5 event first half of September, Monster Hunter Switch is being revealed soon, have a good day
— AestheticGamer aka Dusk Golem (@AestheticGamer1) August 28, 2020
This is the one part I'm a bit worried about sharing the PS5 thing being in the first half of the month. For the record I know this and am not making up that they're gearing up to do a PS5 event then, but I can see a scenario September is going to become bumper cars with the companies shifting around each other's dates. I do think due to console stuff Sony and Microsoft will take priority though.Dusk does have very solid capcom inside info which has been proved, he's just a terrible insider with trying to guess stuff based off small snippets of things he's heard about things he doesn't really know about. So its hard to give a value to what he is saying. Like the PS5 struggling with 4K stuff and him saying the real possibility that PS5 will be weaker and more expensive, I think he's heard that on some games PS5 struggles with 4K where Series X doesn't which makes sense considering SX has the 2TF advantage and these games won't be optimised yet, and the price thing was probably just his pure conjecture but he has no idea how to properly give out information and opinions as an insider.
The Latin America ps channel updated their PS5 playlist again, let's see what it is this time!an announcement of an announcement!!!
an announcement of and an announcement!!!If we're lucky. Its probably just another ad.
If we're lucky. Its probably just another ad.an announcement of an ad?!?!
an announcement of an ad?!?!As Xev said, that's if we are lucky.
(https://abload.de/img/09e3181e92634d984d105pkwm.jpeg)Sounds good to me!
Finally a fake rumor!
(https://abload.de/img/09e3181e92634d984d105pkwm.jpeg)other than the date there is nothing that couldn't be filed under, "well duh".
Finally a fake rumor!
[/size]QuotePlayStation 4 players will be able to join multiplayer games with PlayStation 5 players.https://support.ubisoft.com/en-AU/faqs/000055916
Backwards compatibility will be available for supported PlayStation 4 titles, but will not be possible for PlayStation 3, PlayStation 2, or PlayStation games. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
Not sure if anyone was expecting otherwise, but yeah. Shame.
More doomcan anyone for just once while stating that ps5 won't be backwards compaitible with ps2/ps3 ever mention that 52 ps2 titles are on ps4 right now and many of the best ps3 games were ported to ps4 as well.
Ubisoft Support Page: PS5 doesn't support PS1, PS2 or PS3 BC | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/ubisoft-support-page-ps5-doesnt-support-ps1-ps2-or-ps3-bc.277835/)
https://support.ubisoft.com/en-AU/faqs/000055916 (https://support.ubisoft.com/en-AU/faqs/000055916)
Not sure if anyone was expecting otherwise, but yeah. Shame.
can anyone for just once while stating that ps5 won't be backwards compaitible with ps2/ps3 ever mention that 52 ps2 titles are on ps4 right now and many of the best ps3 games were ported to ps4 as well.BC would still be nice.
oh sure support isn't fantastic but you can play all 3 ps2 GTA, pschonaught, dark cloud, all three jaks, TLoU, all 3 uncharteds, all of the kingdom hearts, shadow of the colossus, all three spyros, all three crash bandicoots, crash bandicoot racing, wipeout, read dead, braid, heavy rain and beyond 2 souls. demon's souls is being re-leased for ps5.
there isn't that long of a list of games on ps2/3 worth pining over not being on ps4/5.
BC would still be nice.i mean yeah, "nice". i just don't think it is worth the investment. i have my ps3 right next to my ps4. i haven't turned in on in 7 years now or whatever it has been since i got my ps4.
But yeah, a huge amount of what was really worth playing has been remastered up.
i mean yeah, "nice". i just don't think it is worth the investment. i have my ps3 right next to my ps4. i haven't turned in on in 7 years now or whatever it has been since i got my ps4.Well sure, a remaster is better. :P
here is all i'm "missing" titles:
- Ratchet and clank
- going commando
- up your arsenal
- tools of destruction
- quest for booty
- crack in time
- into the nexus
- god of war 1 and 2
- puppeteer
- portal 2
...but meh. i'll live without them. like i said,.. my ps3 is just sitting right there. honestly, i'd prefer a remaster of each to BC.
Well sure, a remaster is better. :Pnot sure about that.
But an emulator is cheaper.
not sure about that.It's more like 50 hours per title.
i mean, from what i hear it isn't just the emulator but also tens of thousands of hours testing each and every title looking for issues and getting the publisher to fix them.
to remaster each and every ps game would clearly take longer but there are only a few dozen worth remastering. plus sony can sell a remaster at a profit. BC is being given away so there is no value to sony there.
you probably weren't answering from the perspective of sony though.
I'm betting an announcement Friday or Monday.Could be today :o
Whole lot of nothing...
This is what PS latin america had as a private video. Blog post here:
https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/01/devs-speak-how-ps5-consoles-ultra-high-speed-ssd-and-tempest-3d-audiotech-engine-will-enhance-the-future-of-gaming/
Could be today :oI don't think that guy who said Sept 9th knows anything, but I think that date seems promising. Lines up fairly well with Sony's TGS preshows.
I don't think that guy who said Sept 9th knows anything, but I think that date seems promising. Lines up fairly well with Sony's TGS preshows.Sept 9th was because it was leaked at the COD MP reveal date and people thought it could be at a Sony show, but Activision since revealed its a dedicated event.
Sept 9th was because it was leaked at the COD MP reveal date and people thought it could be at a Sony show, but Activision since revealed its a dedicated event.Ah.
i'm getting quite annoyed at sony and ms both now...Maybe because it's September now!
2 months guys. 2 mother fudgy months. no price. no release date. no OS. no series s confirmation. almost no confirmed release titles. no gameplay on anything but ratchet, gt, and halo. sony has at best a wishy-washy declaration of what BC means. cross-gen titles are all sorts of confusing.
i'm not sure why today but i'm quite suddenly very annoyed...
i'm getting quite annoyed at sony and ms both now...I'm with you actually. For me it's the announcement that Sony apparently won't be at TGS (they might still do a pre-TGS, but I'm really not holding my breath) and then that utterly worthless blogpost about the SSD and 3D Audio, that made me particularly annoyed today.
2 months guys. 2 mother fudgy months. no price. no release date. no OS. no series s confirmation. almost no confirmed release titles. no gameplay on anything but ratchet, gt, and halo. sony has at best a wishy-washy declaration of what BC means. cross-gen titles are all sorts of confusing.
i'm not sure why today but i'm quite suddenly very annoyed...
I'm with you actually. For me it's the announcement that Sony apparently won't be at TGS (they might still do a pre-TGS, but I'm really not holding my breath) and then that utterly worthless blogpost about the SSD and 3D Audio, that made me particularly annoyed today.basically agree with everything...
fudgy lay your cards on the table already, this isn't fun or interesting anymore, it's just obnoxious.
Microsoft reveal your stupid dog Series S console and tell us what you want to charge people so that we can finally move on from this wannabe competition in which 90% of the attention is going to just one competitor anyways.
And Sony you too, tell us the price, show us the UI, tell us the launch games, let us pre order, show us more gameplay, tell us if your late gen PS4 exclusives will be upgraded and how that is going to work, tell us how BC will work, show us more games in general. FFS there's such a plethora of things you could do to get people over the moon and instead you opt for telling, not showing, people again how with the SSD everything will load super fast and how with 3D audio you will hear from 360 degrees.
And I know we just got a R&C demo last week, so this might come off as disingenuous but seriously this drip feed is just grating at this point.
Next 3 weeks guys!at this point even if there is a show there is soo much to show (even if we assume there are 0 new games to announce) that the show would need to be 2 hours. i'm all for a "big" show but a 2 hour show detailing already announced games isn't big. it would be a slog to sit though.Spoiler for Hidden:
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— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) September 3, 2020
I’m tired but getting excited. Can’t wait for everyone to experience the power of the next gen. As a dev this made my day. Must stay focused. https://t.co/gPgEnvYqPO
— Peter Dalton (@peter_dalton) September 3, 2020
Demon's Souls. On PS5. ???? https://t.co/Z7NcTqGoFZ
— Hermen Hulst (@hermenhulst) September 3, 2020
I had a dream that they announced the PS5 was going to be $725/$745. It was dreadful.Sounds like it!
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhCTBqnX0AAbRuZ?format=jpg&name=large)"More cake than I expected.". ;D
Yummy PS5.
Gosh, people are very convinced of $500/$600.i mean sony came out and said in that invester document that ps5 shipments is expected to be lower than ps4 due to higher price. i mean that was a long time ago now but between that, the estimated BoM, and the fact MSony don't want to state the price I think it is obvious that ps5 won't be $400.
Would be great for Sony to come out and surprise. ::) :P ??? :-[ :-\ :'(
i mean sony came out and said in that invester document that ps5 shipments is expected to be lower than ps4 due to higher price. i mean that was a long time ago now but between that, the estimated BoM, and the fact MSony don't want to state the price I think it is obvious that ps5 won't be $400.Sony have also apparently doubled their orders for this year and, as I keep bringing up, have made it their target to have this be their fastest generational transition ever.
I think $600 is a stupid expectation but whatever,.. if gamers want to assume the worst it just means they won't be soo angry when it is announced at $500. that works in everyones favor so let the stupid be stupid i say.
i mean sony came out and said in that invester document that ps5 shipments is expected to be lower than ps4 due to higher price. i mean that was a long time ago now but between that, the estimated BoM, and the fact MSony don't want to state the price I think it is obvious that ps5 won't be $400.Since then they doubled the production order and now expect increased revenue due to large hardware sales of PS5.
I think $600 is a stupid expectation but whatever,.. if gamers want to assume the worst it just means they won't be soo angry when it is announced at $500. that works in everyones favor so let the stupid be stupid i say.
Sony have also apparently doubled their orders for this year and, as I keep bringing up, have made it their target to have this be their fastest generational transition ever.Yeah its even funnier when you read their post on Era:
The source for that 500/600€ rumor is beyond stupid.
Sony have also apparently doubled their orders for this year and, as I keep bringing up, have made it their target to have this be their fastest generational transition ever.yes, but clearly that upward estimate was due to covid-19 clearly have a positive impact on the demand for video game products. when sony made the lower forcast covid had not yet closed america if i remember correctly and thus sony's estimate was based on the rules for a "normal market". but sony was crystal clear at the time,.. they expected demand to be lower due to higher price of the hardware. thus i don't think it is unfair to expect a price higher than $400 for ps5. costs will not have suddenly become significantly lower recently. sony's adjustment was due to clear and measurable evidence of an increase in demand for video game products due to the covid lock downs and self isolation.
The source for that 500/600€ rumor is beyond stupid.
yes, but clearly that upward estimate was due to covid-19 clearly have a positive impact on the demand for video game products. when sony made the lower forcast covid had not yet closed america if i remember correctly and thus sony's estimate was based on the rules for a "normal market". but sony was crystal clear at the time,.. they expected demand to be lower due to higher price of the hardware. thus i don't think it is unfair to expect a price higher than $400 for ps5. costs will not have suddenly become significantly lower recently. sony's adjustment was due to clear and measurable evidence of an increase in demand for video game products due to the covid lock downs and self isolation.I don't think anyone is expecting $400 for the regular PS5. PS5 could be $500 and what Sony said would make sense. It would also make a lot of sense if they weren't planning a digital console when they released the first estimate. It did take everyone by surprise in June, which suggests it wasn't in the planning for long. It wouldn't need to be planned for long either since its just PS4 with no disc drive. You wouldn't need much notice to start the production of it.
I don't think anyone is expecting $400 for the regular PS5. PS5 could be $500 and what Sony said would make sense. It would also make a lot of sense if they weren't planning a digital console when they released the first estimate. It did take everyone by surprise in June, which suggests it wasn't in the planning for long. It wouldn't need to be planned for long either since its just PS4 with no disc drive. You wouldn't need much notice to start the production of it.correct me if i'm wrong but i think the 10 million was for the fiscal year,.. so ending in march.
Perhaps Sony saw the opportunity of the pandemic and the competition of series S and later decided to make the digital edition which would be much cheaper and allow them to double the order of consoles. Just a theory, we don't really know enough about this. What we do know is Sony is making 10 million consoles this year and will want to quickly sell them all. If PS5 is really expensive I don't think they will.
correct me if i'm wrong but i think the 10 million was for the fiscal year,.. so ending in march.You are wrong! Articles reporting on the issue kept mixing it up but the original source (Bloomberg) specified 5 million produced by end of september and 10 million by end of december.
mayhaps you are right about the digital version thing. i'd suspect not. i agree it's not a large turn around time on that but it just seems unlikely to me that it came into existence since the beginning of this year. psp had a cartridge-less version. xbox one had a disc-less version. digital is clearly making huge strides this generation. if they weren't talking about a disc-less version years ago something is really wrong with sony. i think the surprise is just more that sony is much, much better at keeping secrets then ms.
You are wrong! Articles reporting on the issue kept mixing it up but the original source (Bloomberg) specified 5 million produced by end of september and 10 million by end of december.Well, not to be a grammar nazi here but if the article stated 10 million produced by the end of december that would align with 10 million shipped by march. a unit fresh off the conveyor belt in china won't count as part of the quarter's shipment. i may be off but I don't think sony can take credit for shipped until the customer receives their product. ...as in it's still not technically shipped during the 4 weeks its on a boat in the middle of the pacific en route to america or whatever its going. but it is "shipped" while the unit is in transit from walmart's central distribution centers to individual walmarts for resale.
You're right they'd definitely have been considering it for a long time but it could be that they were thinking not to do a discless version or at least not at launch, then the covid situation tipped them over the edge and made them decide to do it for launch. They need to capitalise on the uptick in the industry with a more accessible price point.
Anyway, back on price that $450 BOM leak we got from Bloomberg seemed very reliable with Zhuge backing it up as well and prices seem to have gone down since then. Given that, $550+ would be selling at a profit and we know Sony will take a loss, so that's not happening. If the BOM leak is right, $550/$500 is the upper bound for both editions and even that would be a profit on HW for Sony.
Well, not to be a grammar nazi here but if the article stated 10 million produced by the end of december that would align with 10 million shipped by march. a unit fresh off the conveyor belt in china won't count as part of the quarter's shipment. i may be off but I don't think sony can take credit for shipped until the customer receives their product. ...as in it's still not technically shipped during the 4 weeks its on a boat in the middle of the pacific en route to america or whatever its going. but it is "shipped" while the unit is in transit from walmart's central distribution centers to individual walmarts for resale.Who said shipped? I said Sony was making 10 million consoles this year. We don't know how many they plan to ship by the end of March, that wasn't what any leak/ info has said.
i am fully in agreement with you here. those declaring $600 clearly don't grasp the every playstation and xbox product to-date has sold at a loss at launch. some bigger than others obviously but a $50 loss is nothing in this business,.. i believe ps3 was a $300 loss. a BoM of $450 does not translate to an expected MSRP of $600. that's just silly given generations of evidence to the contrary. it's part of why i vastly prefer consoles to pc. ease of use,.. of course. but a gaming pc is stupidly expensive compared to consoles even if you add in 7 years of ps+. i mean for ducks sake, that RTX 3080 everyone is gushing about being a console killer is $700...
Sony began PS5 mass production in June and, under the latest plan, expects to assemble 5 million units by the end of September and another 5 million between October and December. A large portion of the latter tranche would turn into stock for 2021 due to the logistical delay. Sony could try to use air cargo for faster delivery, as it did in 2013 around the launch of the PlayStation 4, though airlines are running vastly reduced schedules due to Covid-19 and Sony's ability to reserve flights would be limited.I don't think the Covid boost would be big enough to overcome a much higher price tag for PS5 to outsell PS4's launch.
Who said shipped? I said Sony was making 10 million consoles this year. We don't know how many they plan to ship by the end of March, that wasn't what any leak/ info has said.i did?
Also yeah, each individual part in a PC is sold at a profit while a console is sold at a loss in total, so its way, way more value.
yes, but clearly that upward estimate was due to covid-19 clearly have a positive impact on the demand for video game products. when sony made the lower forcast covid had not yet closed america if i remember correctly and thus sony's estimate was based on the rules for a "normal market". but sony was crystal clear at the time,.. they expected demand to be lower due to higher price of the hardware. thus i don't think it is unfair to expect a price higher than $400 for ps5. costs will not have suddenly become significantly lower recently. sony's adjustment was due to clear and measurable evidence of an increase in demand for video game products due to the covid lock downs and self isolation.not so directly maybe but i was talking in context of sony's forecast warning to investors. that has implications of being sony's shipped numbers as they would appear in quarterly financials.
I don't think the Covid boost would be big enough to overcome a much higher price tag for PS5 to outsell PS4's launch.mayhaps. obviously neither of us know.
The global Covid-19 pandemic has affected Sony's promotional plans for the new device but not its production capacity, they added.
The company has told assembly partners it would make 5 to 6 million units of the PS5 in the fiscal year ending March 2021, according to other people involved in the machine's supply chain. When Sony released the PlayStation 4 in November 2013, it sold 7.5 million units in its first two quarters.
i did?Well I mean when I stated the 10mil thing I said it was their plan to make, that's the only concrete thing we heard.
not so directly maybe but i was talking in context of sony's forecast warning to investors. that has implications of being sony's shipped numbers as they would appear in quarterly financials.
mayhaps. obviously neither of us know.
just an alternative theory,.. if you saw sony's latest financial the you'd have seen just how much growth digital games had vs physical games since the covid lock down. it may be (in part) that sony thought the expensive disc version of the ps5 would be the leading platform but now believes the discless version and presumably cheaper version will be much more popular now that almost the entire market has suddenly become quite ok with buying games digitally.
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Unsure if old.
— Timur222 (@bogorad222) September 5, 2020
Returnal for PlayStation 5 is coming in 2021. pic.twitter.com/1v70BZMu2R
I mean all of Sony's first party games shown in June are aiming to be out before the end of next year. Question will be if they'll make it and if Sony might actually still be holding games back games that they are looking to release in the first year.And here I thought that GT7 wasn't going to be coming until 2023. *smh*
Demon's Souls has been rated in Japan, Korea, Brazil now.Was never in doubt!
Most PS games are rated 2-3 months before launch. So it seems incredibly likely that DS is still coming this year.
Also possible that the age rating is a bit early since it's a remake. They know exactly what's in the game even if there is still some work left.Does that ever happen though?
-Devil's Advocate
Also possible that the age rating is a bit early since it's a remake. They know exactly what's in the game even if there is still some work left.you'd have a better point if this was a remaster. as a remake 100% content parity is not guaranteed and a standard review process is probably required.
-Devil's Advocate
Does that ever happen though?We'll find out!
you'd have a better point if this was a remaster. as a remake 100% content parity is not guaranteed and a standard review process is probably required.It's not about 100% content parity, it's just about the devs having a pretty good idea of what the finished game will be. I don't think any ratings agencies have a special review process for remasters.
We'll find out!Or we won't if it launches soon :o
If Sony are having a show and intend to be price competitive with Series S it needs to be this week before too many people get sold on the S.Can you preorder xsx\s yet?
Can you preorder xsx\s yet?No, not yet. I think Sony still has time to open pre-orders first. If that GAME rumour is true then it should be this week.
Playstation UK tweeted out a scene from GoT, with a proud display of buttocks.Huh. Game of thrones?
First up, there's the matter of load times. Sony has touted the speed of the PS5's solid-state drive, and how it virtually eliminates long loads. In practice, we watched as Kena was launched from the PlayStation 5 system menu. It took about two seconds. That's not resuming a suspended game, but launching the game fresh.Why hasn't Sony marketed this, or like anything?
Ghost of Tsushima.Rude.
What Does The PS5 Bring To Kena: Bridge Of Spirits? - Game Informer (https://www.gameinformer.com/feature/2020/09/08/what-does-the-ps5-bring-to-kena-bridge-of-spirits?amp&__twitter_impression=true)
Lol.Suspend is still nice because for offline games it lets you pause and "save" at any time.
2 seconds is insane.
I wonder if we went see quick resume because it's all quick.
Suspend is still nice because for offline games it lets you pause and "save" at any time.i do that all the time. especially useful when you are playing and the wife starts screaming about some emergency. it's soo nice to be responsive to her needs and not feel like my gaming session was negatively impacted. honestly the best part of this gen.
Suspend is still nice because for offline games it lets you pause and "save" at any time.It was the only pause button for Bloodborne on PS4.
It was the only pause button for Bloodborne on PS4.Yep. Couldn't play demons souls for long due to no pause
Aww :'(It's a bit of a stretch to say he's a complete idiot. But he's definitely been making some bad takes.
What did Jeff Grubb say?
Right, but any money saved is money earned, and that's more important than ever to Sony as a whole, which now relies on PlayStation as its central pillar. And it's used to not taking a huge loss on hardware. And even at $500, the PS5 DE would be taking a loss.
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 9, 2020
You're upset that they're saying something that is accurate?
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 9, 2020
It's a bit of a stretch to say he's a complete idiot. But he's definitely been making some bad takes.What if they can afford it but would rather not. They were waiting to see if MS would force them to take the lossRight, but any money saved is money earned, and that's more important than ever to Sony as a whole, which now relies on PlayStation as its central pillar. And it's used to not taking a huge loss on hardware. And even at $500, the PS5 DE would be taking a loss.
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 9, 2020You're upset that they're saying something that is accurate?
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 9, 2020
Basically he thinks:
- Sony can't afford to take a loss on PS5, despite the fact that Sony is doing better than they have in a while.
- That Sony would have announced the price already if it was good.
What if they can afford it but would rather not. They were waiting to see if MS would force them to take the lossps5 was always going to be sold at a loss at launch. ps4 was sold at a loss at launch but as they said after selling 1 full priced game ps4 was almost break even. ... and sony was in much more dire straights at ps4's launch financially.
It's a bit of a stretch to say he's a complete idiot. But he's definitely been making some bad takes.I think it's perfectly fair imo, this isn't the first time after all.Right, but any money saved is money earned, and that's more important than ever to Sony as a whole, which now relies on PlayStation as its central pillar. And it's used to not taking a huge loss on hardware. And even at $500, the PS5 DE would be taking a loss.
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 9, 2020You're upset that they're saying something that is accurate?
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 9, 2020
Basically he thinks:
- Sony can't afford to take a loss on PS5, despite the fact that Sony is doing better than they have in a while.
- That Sony would have announced the price already if it was good.
It's a bit of a stretch to say he's a complete idiot. But he's definitely been making some bad takes.Sony which has taken a loss on every PS consoleRight, but any money saved is money earned, and that's more important than ever to Sony as a whole, which now relies on PlayStation as its central pillar. And it's used to not taking a huge loss on hardware. And even at $500, the PS5 DE would be taking a loss.
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 9, 2020You're upset that they're saying something that is accurate?
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) September 9, 2020
Basically he thinks:
- Sony can't afford to take a loss on PS5, despite the fact that Sony is doing better than they have in a while.
- That Sony would have announced the price already if it was good.
I think Microsoft has built some fantastic hardware with Series X & S and I think they're great value for the tech. But I've noticed weird concern every so often as if anything Xbox does is suddenly something Sony has to respond to. They're the clear market leader, they have a massively loyal audience waiting to jump to PS5, and they've got a ton of stuff to work with in the lead up to launch, not to mention first party tentpole projects later down the line. This isn't warrior speak at all but Sony just...pretty much owns the room when they decide to talk.
And they'll talk when they're good and ready.
PS5 price may be changing -- thanks to Xbox Series X | Tom's Guide (https://www.tomsguide.com/news/ps5-price-may-be-changing-and-well-have-the-xbox-series-x-to-thank)of course. price was goign to be $700 but then they saw xbox and decided to drop to $500. i completely believe you meritless rumor..
Claims there was an original price considerably more expensive.
But Sony will likely be putting $399/$499.
PS5 price may be changing -- thanks to Xbox Series X | Tom's Guide (https://www.tomsguide.com/news/ps5-price-may-be-changing-and-well-have-the-xbox-series-x-to-thank)The gamereactor article is from yesterday. I think what's the most likely story here is that Sony were always thinking 399/499 but only a few at the top knew it and now xbox price has been announced they're happy with the PS5 price point and have got ready to announce it by letting more people know.
Claims there was an original price considerably more expensive.
But Sony will likely be putting $399/$499.
of course. price was goign to be $700 but then they saw xbox and decided to drop to $500. i completely believe you meritless rumor..Yep, but I'll take any rumor that backs up $399/$499.
Sony PS5 will be $399 for the digital version. $499 for the physical.
My reliable source is my Sony Uncle.
The gamereactor article is from yesterday. I think what's the most likely story here is that Sony were always thinking 399/499 but only a few at the top knew it and now xbox price has been announced they're happy with the PS5 price point and have got ready to announce it by letting more people know.If it were legitimate, I wonder if someone was hearing the PS5 cost to Sony, and then they started hearing the PS5 consumer price.
Yep, but I'll take any rumor that backs up $399/$499.i have just learned from a reliable source sony was always going to price the ps5 and ps5 DE between $399 and $499. However they were putting out false intelligence that they'd be releasing between $499 and $599 hoping they could get ms to publicly commit to a $599 price for xbsx and thus win the generation decisively in the first 12 months of the generation.
Look here's one now
If it were legitimate, I wonder if someone was hearing the PS5 cost to Sony, and then they started hearing the PS5 consumer price.
I doubt it's legitimate. But I'm so desperate for news, I'd take just about anything.
Even insider Kitler. 8)
This is from a Hong Kong distributor. So probably region specific. Just FYI.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 11, 2020
Was PS5 Digital'S SSD confirmed?Yes.
Confusion about the disk tray is just super weird to me.i mean, the confusion is probably about which side is "up". I've got to admit that when the first imaged of ps5 were shown and it was oriented vertically i wasn't certain which way it would be placed on it's side. aka disc drive top or bottom.
Saw someone asking a few months ago about what direction the disk is supposed to go in. Another one today.
i mean, the confusion is probably about which side is "up". I've got to admit that when the first imaged of ps5 were shown and it was oriented vertically i wasn't certain which way it would be placed on it's side. aka disc drive top or bottom.Yeah but at this point after seeing it horizontal, I don't understand how there can be so much confusion.
Just to clarify one point. I'm not 100% certain if this is 60 flights, or 60 aircraft. But it does sound like each flight will be full.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 14, 2020
Source for this is Delta Air Cargo head Jerry Tai.
how many ps5's can fit on 1 flight? maybe i'm skewed from the concept of a commercial flight but i can't imagine it being more than 10,000. times 60 and that is only 600,000 units. that's not a lot for a quarter unless this is for the USA market only.They won't just use air freight.
how many ps5's can fit on 1 flight? maybe i'm skewed from the concept of a commercial flight but i can't imagine it being more than 10,000. times 60 and that is only 600,000 units. that's not a lot for a quarter unless this is for the USA market only.Apparently these planes can carry ~300k lbs/30k packages.
Apparently these planes can carry ~300k lbs/30k packages.i just have a hard time believing sony can sell that many even at $400. ...and if they do there is going to be such a massive sales cliff in 2021 that i'm not sure it's worth it.
~1.8 million PS5's.
As DerNebel said, they certainly have shipped consoles already.
They are supposed to have 5m by September. This 1.8m is either the last part of the September stock or Oct stock. So might be somewhere between 5 and 6.8m total.
lol, sony certainly has a "style" when it comes to playstation ads.They're very british/ european style ads.
not my favorite. not bad either.
Yes as you guys said this is enough for about 1.5-2 million consoles.Just to clarify one point. I'm not 100% certain if this is 60 flights, or 60 aircraft. But it does sound like each flight will be full.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 14, 2020
Source for this is Delta Air Cargo head Jerry Tai.
air ship also means that if they sell out in the holiday rush then there will probably be a long gap (around 1-2 months) where shelves won't be restocked at all in early 2021.Just use a second round of planes. They did the same thing for PS4's launch.
Xbox prices got leaked a full week before their planned reveal. We're now less than 2 days to PS5 and nothing is being said, not even any hints.Sony not confident??
Xbox prices got leaked a full week before their planned reveal. We're now less than 2 days to PS5 and nothing is being said, not even any hints.Sony doesn't have to tell people in advance of the show.
Sony not confident??sony is just better at controlling information.
Just to clarify one point. I'm not 100% certain if this is 60 flights, or 60 aircraft. But it does sound like each flight will be full.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 14, 2020
Source for this is Delta Air Cargo head Jerry Tai.
The information for this being from Delta means that they would not be aware of or communicate Sony's plans with other airlines / sea freight
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 14, 2020
It's unlikely the above covers all shipments / channels. It's also worth noting that these flights are for the UShttps://t.co/yDNGmVHnq7
The information for this being from Delta means that they would not be aware of or communicate Sony's plans with other airlines / sea freight
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 14, 2020
It's unlikely the above covers all shipments / channels. It's also worth noting that these flights are for the UShttps://t.co/yDNGmVHnq7
more reason not to buy a launch model.Launch models are fine, or at least will have issues unrelated to this.
Launch models are fine, or at least will have issues unrelated to this.Not even price, this is AMD's problem more than anything. Sony will have already agreed a price per chip with AMD, this just means Sony get to make fewer PS5s than they hoped. You wouldn't change long term price on a product only because initial yield was lower than expected.
This only affects price and availability.
Not even price, this is AMD's problem more than anything. Sony will have already agreed a price per chip with AMD, this just means Sony get to make fewer PS5s than they hoped. You wouldn't change long term price on a product only because initial yield was lower than expected.But Sony needs be given more chips in order to get working ones.
Anyway this isn't too bad, it's still higher than PS4 and they will probably ramp up further in the rest of next year to make up for it.
This marches with the increased air freight, if the first few months of production were much lower than expected then its launch that would suffer, but the air freight basically moves the shipments forward a quarter.
PS4 shipped 4.5M and 3M in it's first two quarters. We might see something like 6M and 3.5M for PS5 if they do hit this production target.
What does this mean!?I think it casts doubt on everything Bloomberg has said about PS5. We know nothing about the target production number or how production is actually going. Perhaps the $450 BOM report is now unreliable too.
Bloomberg has been super funky with their PS5 insights. Random huge leaks here and there. Does this cast doubt on the past ones, or does it confirm them since Sony never commented before?
What does this mean!?I think it kinda depends on what those past leaks were right? I remember things about the supposed BOM cost and the number of systems they were aiming to make.
Bloomberg has been super funky with their PS5 insights. Random huge leaks here and there. Does this cast doubt on the past ones, or does it confirm them since Sony never commented before?
I think it kinda depends on what those past leaks were right? I remember things about the supposed BOM cost and the number of systems they were aiming to make.Its funny though because if that was the case they would have been adamant about the yield reports and the SOC quality. The only thing they specifically denied was the production numbers changing.
Both of those, to me at least, feel like pieces of information, which no matter how false or true they are, in the end don't really matter to the consumer. This report however included the part about the yield issue, which through the media and just general information spread, could easily be warped into "worries about the PS5's failure rate" or something similar.
That's what I believe at least, that Sony doesn't want to leave a report uncommented that could be misconstrued to mean that their consoles will be failing on people.
Its funny though because if that was the case they would have been adamant about the yield reports and the SOC quality. The only thing they specifically denied was the production numbers changing.Dunno, they kinda denied the whole thing, saying that the provided information is false. But yeah, I guess they do specifically mention the not lowering production.
Its gonna be a fun few days after the showcase too. We should see the box, the back of the console, find out exact dimensions and whatever else Sony might want to share. Its hopefully going to be constant news from here on out.I hope they start shipping out shells for journalists. We know what PS5 looks like but outside of leaks, we've never actually seen photos of it. I doubt they'll include photos in the show tomorrow (just cgi).
I hope they start shipping out shells for journalists. We know what PS5 looks like but outside of leaks, we've never actually seen photos of it. I doubt they'll include photos in the show tomorrow (just cgi).Yep for sure, can't wait to see official real pictures of it.
Demon's Souls - Official #PS5 Screenshots pic.twitter.com/oAde5hPluk
— Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) September 16, 2020
So we still haven't seen the UI or anything for this console. We saw the back and know the dimensions at least.Dat dog tho 8)
So we still haven't seen the UI or anything for this console. We saw the back and know the dimensions at least.Yeah what ports were back there? Any official pics?
Yeah what ports were back there? Any official pics?(https://scontent.fman3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/119475976_769478147199720_2801690014626019356_n.png?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=45nv2C_PvuEAX-ds7_C&_nc_ht=scontent.fman3-1.fna&oh=74b4cc2bea57a2ae9da63fcbc22e6844&oe=5F8852EA)
Yeah what ports were back there? Any official pics?2 USB
2 USBThe top is for a security lock. I don't think retail PS4s had them.
1 AC
1 HDMI
1 Ethernet
Some kind of mystery thing towards the top that kind of looked like a port but could have been anything really.
(https://scontent.fman3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/119475976_769478147199720_2801690014626019356_n.png?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=45nv2C_PvuEAX-ds7_C&_nc_ht=scontent.fman3-1.fna&oh=74b4cc2bea57a2ae9da63fcbc22e6844&oe=5F8852EA)Why is this console in such low resolution? I thought it was supposed to be 4K.
really? I like those boxes a lot. The digital one is noice.They feel like standard sony hardware boxes I guess.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiEoaLeXgAM28EV?format=jpg&name=medium)This box is 10x better than the xbox ones lol.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiEoaLpXkAE0wF-?format=jpg&name=medium)
I love the series x box now...
This box is 10x better than the xbox ones lol.Yes I'd agree
It was so quickly swept under the rug as being a "not good enough gamepass answer" that the PS+ collection has barely been mentioned in the last couple of days at all. But I think its pretty awesome and a great value offering for people to hop onto PS5. 18 of the best games of this gen all in PS+ subscription is awesome.Yeah it's a good alternative to gamepass at launch. Gives people new to playstation a great selection of old games.
Yeah it's a good alternative to gamepass at launch. Gives people new to playstation a great selection of old games.Also even the average PS4 player. Attach ratio for PS4 is 11 and there's 18 games in this. I reckon at least 95% of PS4 owners have played less than 10 of the 18 games in the list, so there'll be some nice free games there for most people. Its like an amazing first month of free PS+ games, PS+ games are usually old anyway.
Also even the average PS4 player. Attach ratio for PS4 is 11 and there's 18 games in this. I reckon at least 95% of PS4 owners have played less than 10 of the 18 games in the list, so there'll be some nice free games there for most people. Its like an amazing first month of free PS+ games, PS+ games are usually old anyway.Yeah I'm excited for Days Gone, but it's the type of game I'd expect to see in PS+ anyway. Plus haven't a lot of these 18 games already been in PS+? I know TLOU has.
I personally played 10 of those games. I've been on the fence about Persona 5, TLG, Days Gone and Monster Hunter World before so I'm super happy I can play them all for free, Monster Hunter World in particular.
Era is making me hate gamers.Era is making me hate Era. Gamers tend to suck online but the site's moderation has been building this for years.
Also even the average PS4 player. Attach ratio for PS4 is 11 and there's 18 games in this. I reckon at least 95% of PS4 owners have played less than 10 of the 18 games in the list, so there'll be some nice free games there for most people. Its like an amazing first month of free PS+ games, PS+ games are usually old anyway.you're probably right. i have like 300 ps4 games and even for me i'll be getting:
I personally played 10 of those games. I've been on the fence about Persona 5, TLG, Days Gone and Monster Hunter World before so I'm super happy I can play them all for free, Monster Hunter World in particular.
Yeah I'm excited for Days Gone, but it's the type of game I'd expect to see in PS+ anyway. Plus haven't a lot of these 18 games already been in PS+? I know TLOU has.not really. infamous, the last of us, and until dawn afaik.
Era is making me hate Era. Gamers tend to suck online but the site's moderation has been building this for years.
Era is making me hate gamers.Anything specific? But yes Resetera is a trashpile of a forum. I actually don't remember when it was exactly, but some time ago I took a break from going there entirely for several months because reading it would legitimately give me headaches and ruin my mood at times.
Anything specific? But yes Resetera is a trashpile of a forum. I actually don't remember when it was exactly, but some time ago I took a break from going there entirely for several months because reading it would legitimately give me headaches and ruin my mood at times.Nothing specific.
Their moderation is a complete joke, probably because they know that keeping this trashfire going is what's driving traffic.
Nothing specific.Ah, ok. Yeah all of that is ridiculous. These people are just trying to be outraged at everything.
Just the whole outrage they've had over the past few days.
"Jim's a liar who lies about everything."
"Why are they charging $70 for a Spiderman remaster. It should be free!!!"
"Clearly it was implied when Jim said they were going to make something for next gen, they meant everything!"
Etc, resetera, etc.
Apparently Geoff teased big PlayStation news tomorrow. But the tweet was deleted if it was ever there in the first place.I saw a screenshot of that on Reddit as well. No idea if it's real and what it would be about. Seems weird that he would delete it.
Oh and apparently we're already back to games with no concrete release date being way off, lol.Yeah I mean of course things can slip but if we're given a 2021 date then its currently on track for 2021. I guess people got burned with a lot of delays this gen and this year particularly.
I told someone on reddit, who said that Horizon was at least 1 to 2 years off, that he had no way of knowing that and was downvoted to oblivion for it. He replied by telling me the usual: "If Horizon was closer, they'd have shown gameplay" and "God of War can't be before 2022 because they only showed a logo".
It's like wednesday didn't happen with people still pretending like they have Sony's announcement to release strategy for games figured out.
Oh and apparently we're already back to games with no concrete release date being way off, lol.Where?
I told someone on reddit, who said that Horizon was at least 1 to 2 years off, that he had no way of knowing that and was downvoted to oblivion for it. He replied by telling me the usual: "If Horizon was closer, they'd have shown gameplay" and "God of War can't be before 2022 because they only showed a logo".
It's like wednesday didn't happen with people still pretending like they have Sony's announcement to release strategy for games figured out.
Where?On the PS5 subreddit.
Lol at some of that comments in that chain. Apparently Sony "perfectly know" that God of War is 2022 and they just lied to sell more PS5s. Gosh there's so many people with inside info nowadays!Yeah, apparently everybody has totally figured Sony's marketing plan out, even though literally nobody would have guessed that they'd market/announce things for the PS5 the way they have up to this point.
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— ??????????? (@PlayStation_jp) September 23, 2020
?????Try! PlayStation®5 on YouTube Gaming Week??????????????????10?4?(?)18???????????????????????
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So calm this spooky night. A symphony of rumors - not one, but two - return from shadow. A resistance to dart home as black monsters escape twisted hills to wander lands and syphon souls. Filter your candy collections, soft from solid, and be eco-friendly. Have a metal Halloween. pic.twitter.com/mFFxI7BIDN
— Bluepoint Games (@bluepointgames) October 31, 2019
People think Bluepoint are also remaking metal gear solid. Maybe it's true.Yeah but that tweet teases like 8 games.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bluepoint-games-tweet-from-last-halloween-seems-to-lend-credence-to-the-metal-gear-solid-remake-rumors.293432/[/iurl]
(https://www.resetera.com/threads/bluepoint-games-tweet-from-last-halloween-seems-to-lend-credence-to-the-metal-gear-solid-remake-rumors.293432/)So calm this spooky night. A symphony of rumors - not one, but two - return from shadow. A resistance to dart home as black monsters escape twisted hills to wander lands and syphon souls. Filter your candy collections, soft from solid, and be eco-friendly. Have a metal Halloween. pic.twitter.com/mFFxI7BIDN
— Bluepoint Games (@bluepointgames) October 31, 2019
People think Bluepoint are also remaking metal gear solid. Maybe it's true.Twisted metal is there. No gear
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bluepoint-games-tweet-from-last-halloween-seems-to-lend-credence-to-the-metal-gear-solid-remake-rumors.293432/[/iurl]
(https://www.resetera.com/threads/bluepoint-games-tweet-from-last-halloween-seems-to-lend-credence-to-the-metal-gear-solid-remake-rumors.293432/)So calm this spooky night. A symphony of rumors - not one, but two - return from shadow. A resistance to dart home as black monsters escape twisted hills to wander lands and syphon souls. Filter your candy collections, soft from solid, and be eco-friendly. Have a metal Halloween. pic.twitter.com/mFFxI7BIDN
— Bluepoint Games (@bluepointgames) October 31, 2019
New round of PS5 stock up for pre-order tomorrow morning it seems.first year sales curve:
New round of PS5 stock up for pre-order tomorrow morning it seems.Seems like it is global. GAME and amazon at least in the UK have a restock.
Second, one of the important energy efficient features of PS5 will be its ability to suspend and resume game play at just 0.5 W. When enabled this will be around 72% less than for PS4PlayStation's One Year Update on "Playing for the Planet" - SIE Blog - English (https://www.sie.com/en/blog/playstations-one-year-update-on-playing-for-the-planet/)
Probably not a crazy prediction.I wonder if bluepoint will start making original games or reimaginings like ff7.
But I expect if DS is successful, Sony will buy Bluepoint in the next few months.
I wonder if bluepoint will start making original games or reimaginings like ff7.IMO they arent worth the purchase unless they do.
IMO they arent worth the purchase unless they do.i don't know,. they've shown themselves quite successful at taking other peoples gameplay/stories and rebuilding them with high quality. there is clearly a lot of developer talent in this studio. what's unproven is if they have anyone with the creative chops to create a new franchise/gameplay/story from scratch. personally i think creating a new franchise that resonates with the population is much harder. how often has a new franchise appeared to be DoA because it is "generic" or whatever.
Let them make a new DS or bloodborne after this in collaboration with Japan studios. If that works out buy them
Where's the PS5 previews at Sony?!Won't some japanese Youtubers get hands on at the end of the week?
Won't some japanese Youtubers get hands on at the end of the week?October 4th, but we don't even know what they can show and Japanese only would be annoying.
October 4th, but we don't even know what they can show and Japanese only would be annoying.Probably playing some Astrobot again? :D
October 4th, but we don't even know what they can show and Japanese only would be annoying.Astrobot and they can only talk about the controller lol. That would be something
Probably playing some Astrobot again? :D
Dunno, we'll see.
Astrobot and they can only talk about the controller lol. That would be somethingYeah honestly considering 2020 Sony I would not be surprised.
(https://external-preview.redd.it/GqpsW_kbrjIj3jk3Zg1VeiJXsC88X0QFToBMk6I-PDk.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=86c63b9fd2169303879c821ca0162502d9da4aea)Wish this was higher res. :'(
So ps5 is sold out in Iceland and stores say they won't be getting more this year. GreatTell them you're a doctor.
Tell them you're a doctor.I need it for research purposes
Slam, smash, and boost your way to fame in Destruction AllStars, coming to PS5 - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/29/slam-smash-and-boost-your-way-to-fame-in-destruction-allstars-coming-to-ps5/)Have MTX's been confirmed? I know the game has an in-game currency which points to it, but that could still be used without MTX.
Destruction Allstars blog post, doesn't really tell you too much that you couldn't infer from the trailer. Full price and MTX for this game is just such a weird decision, feels like its being sent out to die. A short blog post is not enough, hopefully this upcoming trailer they mentioned is a good one.
Slam, smash, and boost your way to fame in Destruction AllStars, coming to PS5 - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2020/09/29/slam-smash-and-boost-your-way-to-fame-in-destruction-allstars-coming-to-ps5/)this honestly looks like it could be an amazing f2p game ala rocket league and go on to make tons of money. but as a $70 ps5 exclusive this will fail to get much of an audience right away. i'll bet match making will be difficult. i cannot see this being entertaining to play solo as it appears to be 100% a multiplayer-centric game and that will be what kills it. this has "flop" written all over it. shame because the trailer makes it look fun to play.
Destruction Allstars blog post, doesn't really tell you too much that you couldn't infer from the trailer. Full price and MTX for this game is just such a weird decision, feels like its being sent out to die. A short blog post is not enough, hopefully this upcoming trailer they mentioned is a good one.
this honestly looks like it could be an amazing f2p game ala rocket league and go on to make tons of money. but as a $70 ps5 exclusive this will fail to get much of an audience right away. i'll bet match making will be difficult. i cannot see this being entertaining to play solo as it appears to be 100% a multiplayer-centric game and that will be what kills it. this has "flop" written all over it. shame because the trailer makes it look fun to play.It's a day 1 game. That will be a huge help.
It's a day 1 game. That will be a huge help.your point would be more valid to me if on day-1 i couldn't also get:
Millions of extremely content hungry people with few things to choose from (people want new games with their new console) early on, will certainly lead a chunk of players to this game.
But I agree that I'm still missing the $70 sales pitch here.
your point would be more valid to me if on day-1 i couldn't also get:Eh, I still wouldn't underestimate the power of being a launch game (that will be one of few next gen exclusives and likely fairly prominently featured in the consoles marketing at launch I imagine). There's also the period after launch after all, where for several weeks if not months, little to nothing will actually come out, which might push people to check this game out.
- spider man miles morales (and spiderman remastered)
- demon's souls
- godfall
- assassin's creed
- CoD
- sackboy a big adventure
i don't know about everyone but I'll wager a vast majority of people would rank at least 2 games from that list as more desirable then destruction all-stars. i doubt too many people buy 3+ games at launch. really, this is a pretty awesome launch as far as launch line-ups go.
Eh, I still wouldn't underestimate the power of being a launch game (that will be one of few next gen exclusives and likely be fairly prominently be featured in the consoles marketing at launch I imagine). There's also the period after launch after all, where for several weeks if not months, little to nothing will actually come out, which might push people to check this game out.yeah, i'm a big fan of little big planet and MM but i'm really, really happy to have a game entirely focused on play and not create, share. i think this is going to be great and much more in line with tearaway then LBP3 and i think that's a great thing.
Speaking of launch.
This actually looks kinda charming and like something I could see myself getting in a quiet week around christmas. ;D
Have MTX's been confirmed? I know the game has an in-game currency which points to it, but that could still be used without MTX.Yes, on the store page.
Yes, on the store page.Ah yeah, just saw that.
I don't understand their reasoning for changing actors. This new one looks too young. Seems like they're trying to make him more like the movie Spidey.They wanted him to match the actor so they could use face capture for better animations.
They wanted him to match the actor so they could use face capture for better animations.So they found his twin?
So they found his twin?No they found an unreasonably attractive model who looks kind of like a young Yuri.
No they found an unreasonably attractive model who looks kind of like a young Yuri.(https://s1.gifyu.com/images/reface-2020-09-30-08-23-28.gif)
Well played, Insomniac - the RT features are way more robust than expected. Impressive. pic.twitter.com/OzZnJJw9GR
— John Linneman (@dark1x) September 30, 2020
insomniac is killing it this gen.It's crazy how much they're pulling out right now. A solid remaster, a new smaller game and a new Ratchet and Clank.
Wtf is this actors look.Yeah its unrealistic how young (never mind pretty boy face) he is
Ps4 spidey was the best spidey ever IMO (excluding comics as I dont know them)
I am kind of surprised how upset people are about the changeProbably my biggest pet peeve in games. Far worse than anything George Lucas has done.
It's really funny. Because the reflection shows the back of the hand. pic.twitter.com/Wc4mj4dLvj
— ??????????? ?????? (@sadboydanya) September 30, 2020
well, it all depends on the angle. would be interesting if in "photo mode" you could see it transition from the back to the front of the hand.It's really funny. Because the reflection shows the back of the hand. pic.twitter.com/Wc4mj4dLvj
— ??????????? ?????? (@sadboydanya) September 30, 2020
People know f all about reflections. ::)
Yeah its unrealistic how young (never mind pretty boy face) he isUnrealistic? Peter Parker is 23 in the game, not 40.
Lol from that angle that's normalIt's really funny. Because the reflection shows the back of the hand. pic.twitter.com/Wc4mj4dLvj
— ??????????? ?????? (@sadboydanya) September 30, 2020
People know f all about reflections. ::)
Unrealistic? Peter Parker is 23 in the game, not 40.Lol yeah it is unrealistic for his age!
The face model is this guy, right?
Ben Jordan - MODELWERK (https://www.modelwerk.de/page/model-5660/Ben_Jordan.html)
That dude is 25 from what I can gather (and half nude in most of the pics I can find :D), is his face unrealistic for his age?
Movies and TV have really messed with our perception of what young people look like.
Yeah its unrealistic how young (never mind pretty boy face) he isPeter is 23, he looks 23. Source: am a 22 year old who knows lots of people around my age.
Peter is 23, he looks 23. Source: am a 22 year old who knows lots of people around my age.Redirect Notice (https://images.app.goo.gl/hU7UiqMB1vAUaFZR7)
He definitely doesn't look young than Miles, you need your eyes checking or something.
Redirect Notice (https://images.app.goo.gl/hU7UiqMB1vAUaFZR7)I gave the reason right here:
Well they look about the same age.
Maybe old spidey looked too old for 23. But the worst part is that they changed the look of a character many people loved for apparently no reason
They wanted him to match the actor so they could use face capture for better animations.Watch the video!
I gave the reason right here:I know but it just sounds like a battleship reason since the other one worked very well with great facial animations before
Watch the video!
Redirect Notice (https://images.app.goo.gl/hU7UiqMB1vAUaFZR7)By my eye: old spidey looked late twenties, new spidey looks early twenties, Miles looks late teens. Also that picture makes Miles look older than he does in motion as we saw in the demo.
Well they look about the same age.
Maybe old spidey looked too old for 23. But the worst part is that they changed the look of a character many people loved for apparently no reason
A few words from me on today’s news... pic.twitter.com/PpdWVuw4Mm
— Bryan Intihar (@bryanintihar) September 30, 2020
the jump to next-gen means higher fidelity and realism with the facial scans / muscle movements / rigs / animations etc
— James Stevenson (@JamesStevenson) September 30, 2020
Redirect Notice (https://images.app.goo.gl/hU7UiqMB1vAUaFZR7)I'd put that more on Miles looking old for a 16 year old (at least in that pic) than Peter looking too young for his age.
Well they look about the same age.
Maybe old spidey looked too old for 23. But the worst part is that they changed the look of a character many people loved for apparently no reason
I didn't even know the PP actor didn't look like that original look lol. Voice seemed completely believable. They didn't use face capture in the PS4 version? Definitely seemed like they did, and with other characters as well like doc ocAll the mocap is done by Yuri, so they animate the facial expressions and movements based on what Yuri does when he's delivering the lines. With a face that's shaped so differently to his with quite different bone structure, you can imagine how it'd start to look bad/ weird when they try to make animations more detailed and nuanced. I guess its more of a fault of them picking the wrong face model first time round and not thinking ahead about this being a potential problem.
The skin shader, hair and lighting look fantastic on the PS5 model. Shame the model itself is worseGetting their money's worth with blend shapes too. Just look at that deformed skin around the forehead and neck.
The skin shader, hair and lighting look fantastic on the PS5 model. Shame the model itself is worseThe model is better.
Funnily enough. The new PP looks a bit like Pezus.Haha I don't agree
The model is better.I dont mean quality wise. I mean look wise.
The Pathless, the newest adventure from @GiantSquidology, takes flight on PS5 and PS4 November 12: https://t.co/IQX2fBCrL7 pic.twitter.com/HzfwEyd0L5
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 1, 2020
I dont mean quality wise. I mean look wise.I suppose that is subjective, but I think its better.
I have so many games I'm interested in playing that come out on PS5 launch day. Gonna wait for reviews to be sure for most of them but I think I'll be playing through new games non-stop for months. The Pathless looked awesome, if its cheap/ PS+ I'll play it for sure.The Pathless, the newest adventure from @GiantSquidology, takes flight on PS5 and PS4 November 12: https://t.co/IQX2fBCrL7 pic.twitter.com/HzfwEyd0L5
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 1, 2020
On PC/PlayStation 4/5
First tweet of the new decade.
— Cory Barlog ???? (@corybarlog) January 1, 2020
Eric Williams.
Remember that name.
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This might mean absolutely nothing. And it probably does.Sony guy on Era said Cory is directing God of War 2.
Cory Barlog changed his Twitter stuff.
twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/corybarlog)
Rumor is that he isn't directing God of War Ragnarok. This was suggested when he tweeted out this:First tweet of the new decade.
— Cory Barlog ???? (@corybarlog) January 1, 2020
Eric Williams.
Remember that name.
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Sony guy on Era said Cory is directing God of War 2.True but it's always possible he was making a tease.
Woah ???? #PS5
— ???????????????????????????????????? ? (@ErfanManavi) October 2, 2020
(Source Unknown) pic.twitter.com/0f3Z8NNm0l
Leaks ahoy?!What guy?
Guy is claiming 625 GB storage space.
What guy?Some exclusive : PS5 (https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/j40guv/some_exclusive/)
This is separate and fake for sure.Woah ???? #PS5
— ???????????????????????????????????? ? (@ErfanManavi) October 2, 2020
(Source Unknown) pic.twitter.com/0f3Z8NNm0l
Some exclusive : PS5 (https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/j40guv/some_exclusive/)That dude is asking people for money for a video of the UI and the console....
(https://i.ibb.co/GnzwSp0/099-C0-E3-E-33-EA-4194-9-DEB-A8-ED01983308.jpg)idk where people on Era are getting a lot of these images from.
The plot thickens.
when you stop to think about it. the most ridiculous thing about the situation is we are less than 6 weeks until release and it's even possible to have a "leak" of such basic information..And people here told me Sony had told us everything we need to know lol
And people here told me Sony had told us everything we need to know lolwho claimed sony has shown the OS?
who claimed sony has shown the OS?I mean I wanted ps5 before it was announced. Still doesn't mean I don't wanna know everything about it
if I remember the post correctly it was along the lines of what more do YOU need to know to know you want a ps5.
That dude is asking people for money for a video of the UI and the console....Someone paid apparently.
Edit: Or maybe I should say "console".
Someone paid apparently.slower than i was expecting. animation should be smoother.
PS5 UI Startup Leak (Video) : PS5 (https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/j46cwp/ps5_ui_startup_leak_video/)
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps5-has-664-gb-usable-storage-astros-playroom-2-4-gb.299723/I was close. Said the OS would take up more than before
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps5-has-664-gb-usable-storage-astros-playroom-2-4-gb.299723/Pretty good, OS is indeed still smaller than xbox then (by 24GB). 138GB storage difference between the two, that's two big games. Not too bad.
Pretty good, OS is indeed still smaller than xbox then (by 24GB). 138GB storage difference between the two, that's two big games. Not too bad.Maybe. Could be a bunch of things.
Also I guess all the OS leaks are real, so 20 seconds cold boot matching xbox seems to be correct as well. Was expecting better.
Maybe. Could be a bunch of things.Its so weird this shame is happening 5 weeks before launch. Also tomorrow we have lots of hands on videos going out but its only Japanese youtubers which is just baffling.
An elaborate fake.
Could just be an early OS too.
Its so weird this shame is happening 5 weeks before launch. Also tomorrow we have lots of hands on videos going out but its only Japanese youtubers which is just baffling.It becomes less baffling if you consider that they didn't send those Youtubers the console but invited them in for a local event.
Some people on Era are now saying its actually like this:The latter seems to be roughly true.
XSX = 1024 GiB physical (1100 GB) = 920 GiB available for system = 802 GiB free for players (OS = 118 GiB)
PS5 = 768 GiB physical (825 GB) = 690 GiB available for system = 664 GiB free for players (OS = 26 GiB)
Not sure which of this is true.
The latter seems to be roughly true.I think MS did specify they are 512/1024 systems which means this makes the most sense. Also we know that PS OS should be dramatically smaller as is standard.
The former I don't think is. But it's hard to say. Manufacturers very often will use GB to mean GiB.
I think MS did specify they are 512/1024 systems which means this makes the most sense. Also we know that PS OS should be dramatically smaller as is standard.Xbox expansion card has ~920 gb of free space in the ign video. Would make sense that internal is the same.
Pretty good, OS is indeed still smaller than xbox then (by 24GB). 138GB storage difference between the two, that's two big games. Not too bad.seems like many of the big games like CoD are going to be 100+ Gb so maybe closer to 1 game.
Also I guess all the OS leaks are real, so 20 seconds cold boot matching xbox seems to be correct as well. Was expecting better.
seems like many of the big games like CoD are going to be 100+ Gb so maybe closer to 1 game.We've known for a long time that PS5 fixes this.
I was fine with the space i had on ps4. ps5 has marginally more space and games will be marginally bigger. i think i'll be fine regardless. to me it doesn't make sense to have 50 games downloaded and the space availble is enough for me to have 20 games at a time (since i play a lot of indie games and those are tiny).
the only think i hope for is ps5 has a better patching system. back when i played destiny patches were every few weeks. i had to keep a minimum 80 Gb free in order to download the 1 gb patches in order to keep playing. annoyed the crud out of me.
Xbox expansion card has ~920 gb of free space in the ign video. Would make sense that internal is the same.idk if that's just conversion or whether this 10% free space thing is legit.
We've known for a long time that PS5 fixes this.have we? i either missed or forgot. good to know this is coming though. as far as i'm concerned that is an extra 75 Gb of space relative to ps4. i should be more than good for next gen.
the only think i hope for is ps5 has a better patching system. back when i played destiny patches were every few weeks. i had to keep a minimum 80 Gb free in order to download the 1 gb patches in order to keep playing. annoyed the crud out of me.It does.
idk if that's just conversion or whether this 10% free space thing is legit.It is. :P
It does.My "1TB" SSD and HDD in my PC both have 931GB space available due to the actual GiB units and conversion stuff. Does this mean that the SSD is actually is actually 10% more space than the HDD but it just hides it?
It was mentioned in the Cerny talk.
11:26It is. :P
SSDs have "overpovisioning" for a few reasons.
Part of it has to do with the way that SSDs write data. Data is written on a higher level than reading. So if you want to make a change to a file, you have to make a copy of the file with the new changes in a new spot.
Imagine when you write, you have to fill an entire notebook.
You have a notebook already with a few pages written in.
In order to update that notebook, you need to start a new notebook, copy the old info and the new changes in one go, and then wipe the old notebook.
So in order to work you need to have a notebook of space available.
My "1TB" SSD and HDD in my PC both have 931GB space available due to the actual GiB units and conversion stuff. Does this mean that the SSD is actually is actually 10% more space than the HDD but it just hides it?Varies by manufacturer.
Varies by manufacturer.Right but in this case we have confusion over whether the XSX SSD is actually 1TB or not.
Some will sell the drives advertised with less space.
Some will sell a 256 GB drive as a 240 GB SSD after the provisioning. So you get the space you expect.
Right but in this case we have confusion over whether the XSX SSD is actually 1TB or not.Considering the math matches up perfectly with the memory card, I am inclined to believe it's the case.
They state 1TB but some people are saying its 4*256GB=1099.5GB=1024GiB. aka its "actually" 1.1TB while PS5 is "actually" 825GB so XSX is a actually even bigger than we thought. I can't find any verification on whether this is true.
Its so weird this shame is happening 5 weeks before launch. Also tomorrow we have lots of hands on videos going out but its only Japanese youtubers which is just baffling.I'm sure you read already.
I'm sure you read already.Someone who would know? Cause that sounds strange to me.
Someone on era suggested they haven't shown western demos because they aren't complete yet.
Someone who would know? Cause that sounds strange to me.Nah. It was just someone's suggestion. Not a matter of fact.
They will be playing
— Droid: (@Alejandroid1979) October 3, 2020
Astrobot
Godfall
DMC5
Nah. It was just someone's suggestion. Not a matter of fact.So nothing new for sony lolThey will be playing
— Droid: (@Alejandroid1979) October 3, 2020
Astrobot
Godfall
DMC5
Only feedback I got was "it looks slow [compared to the real thing]".Nice. :o
Nice. :oWhere's this from?
Where's this from?https://www.resetera.com/threads/reddit-ps5-ui-start-up-leak-video-in-russian.299579/page-12#post-47499092
https://www.resetera.com/threads/reddit-ps5-ui-start-up-leak-video-in-russian.299579/page-12#post-47499092I see, interesting. So perhaps its a real early prototype or a fake based on the real thing or something like that.
Don't worry guys, Resetera has already picked their outrage topic for the day.Yeah Astro looks great, can't wait to play it.
Oh and btw. Astrobot looks fun. Hopefully they get to make a full fledged game for the IP next.Spoiler for Large GIF:
so no videos worth watching or I just need to look for them myself?Haven't really seen any videos worth watching.
that dual sense player identification looks Soo much better than on ps4. I'll be able to see it while playing.
PS5 had no noticeable fan noise, remained "cold" after 80 minutes of use.
— MBG (@xMBGx) October 4, 2020
This is what I like to hear. pic.twitter.com/vSF477SwSx
Updated with a timer.We get it later though >:(
Put it a few hours ahead because some people are European.
We get it later though >:(I forgot. Some in eastern Asia are getting it same day as US.
Updated with a timer.wait what? what the literal crud is going on here?!? last i read we still don't have proof life exists outside of America:
Put it a few hours ahead because some people are European.
Edit forgot some people aren't European /s
wait what? what the literal crud is going on here?!? last i read we still don't have proof life exists outside of America:There's a big difference between aliens and illegal aliens.
https://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=1798.msg257684#new
Interview with Nicolas Doucet on Astro's Playroom
— Nibel (@Nibellion) October 6, 2020
- 4 worlds: Cooling Resort, GPU Jungle, SSD Speedway and Memory Sky (machine translated)
- 4-5 hours of playtime
- filled with collectibles and PlayStation tributes
- time attack mode
- online rankinghttps://t.co/ZJfZuOBZzm pic.twitter.com/vJhVdPRJPL
eh, worse than i expected. at some point sony said it was a fully game. 4-5 over 4 worlds means an hour per world. makes it sounds like a "connected demo" compared to the ps4 one that was 4-5 mini games. i was expected 10 hours of playtime. something with just a bit of meat on it.Interview with Nicolas Doucet on Astro's Playroom
— Nibel (@Nibellion) October 6, 2020
- 4 worlds: Cooling Resort, GPU Jungle, SSD Speedway and Memory Sky (machine translated)
- 4-5 hours of playtime
- filled with collectibles and PlayStation tributes
- time attack mode
- online rankinghttps://t.co/ZJfZuOBZzm pic.twitter.com/vJhVdPRJPL
This is much better than I expected.
On the PS5, you'll be able to experience 3D Audio with the headphones that many of you already own, either through USB connection to the console, or by plugging your headphones into the DualSense wireless controller's 3.5mm headset jack.Experience PS5's Tempest 3D AudioTech with compatible headsets at launch, TV Virtual Surround Sound coming after launch - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/06/experience-ps5s-tempest-3d-audiotech-with-compatible-headsets-at-launch-tv-virtual-surround-sound-coming-after-launch/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PSBlog+%28PlayStation.Blog%29)
Headphone audio is the current gold standard for 3D Audio on PS5, as Mark Cerny mentioned in his "Road to PS5" talk in March. We're also in the process of working on virtual surround sound through speakers that are built into TVs. Although TV speaker virtual surround sound won't be available on launch day for PS5, it's still a feature we are extremely excited about, and our engineers are hard at work on bringing it to PS5 in the future.
In the meantime, I'm happy to say that you'll be able to enjoy the PS5's Tempest 3D AudioTech through your compatible headphones in many PS5 games. Some of the PS5 games with 3D Audio features include Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered, Astro's Playroom, Gran Turismo 7, Returnal, Destruction AllStars, Demon's Souls, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, Sackboy: A Big Adventure, Horizon Forbidden West, Resident Evil Village, and many others
eh, worse than i expected. at some point sony said it was a fully game. 4-5 over 4 worlds means an hour per world. makes it sounds like a "connected demo" compared to the ps4 one that was 4-5 mini games. i was expected 10 hours of playtime. something with just a bit of meat on it.Sony never said that. All we had was Keighley saying its a multi-hour game not just a tech demo.
...then again i'm always like 2x to 3x longer than what other people project as their time to play a game so maybe it's just me.
Sony never said that. All we had was Keighley saying its a multi-hour game not just a tech demo.sony announced this at their first game announcement thing. that sets an expectation. maybe the rest of ya'll were dismissive but that because ya'll hate sony.
You must have been out of the loop on this, practically everyone was expecting this to be a short 2-3 hour affair, if that.
sony announced this at their first game announcement thing. that sets an expectation. maybe the rest of ya'll were dismissive but that because ya'll hate sony.I don't recall them saying anything like that.
Do we think Sony will buy housemarque? Seems like Sony is interested in evolving the studio.They need to branch out.
Sony needs to expand its first party after MS bought Bethesda. They tried making their studios into 2 team studios but that didn't pan out. They have some really strong IPs now, but they need more quantity at the same quality.
Do we think Sony will buy housemarque? Seems like Sony is interested in evolving the studio.housemarque has been a good studio for sony. i think returnal is a huge step up for them in size of a project. if it is good and well recieved i could see sony buying them. seems like a better choice than most at least.
Sony needs to expand its first party after MS bought Bethesda. They tried making their studios into 2 team studios but that didn't pan out. They have some really strong IPs now, but they need more quantity at the same quality.
The issue with those mid sized games is that a lot weren't really successful orornor profitable.the key to have a huge user base is to have something for everyone not everything for someone.
While they don't need to buy housemarque games, they could also be lost as devs who do exclusives like what happened with quantic dream or even insomniac with sunset overdrive (I really hope sony can bring this to PS).
I agree, they need multiplayer focused games. But their current offerings are making them a lot of money and that route seems the safest to them.
Sony have a reputation now, multiplayer and RPGs don't fit into that. I don't think people would trust Sony to put out a game of their usual high quality in those genres and besides we have so many of them from other devs anyway.i dunno about that. GG made a massive transition from KZ to H:ZD. and that was very well received. same with GoW. I think transitions can be fine.
Buying more devs who are well known with these genres would work but their current studios should stick with what they're currently doing, its immensley successful.
i dunno about that. GG made a massive transition from KZ to H:ZD. and that was very well received. same with GoW. I think transitions can be fine.Guerrilla move was good but it shouldn't be the norm, most studios have found what they're best at now. God of War wasn't too much of a transition either.
...but getting into new genres should necessarily come as the expense of have a high quality studio keep doing their great work. my problem with sony right now is if you list their top games this generation:
- uncharted
- TLoU
- horizon
- GoW
- days gone
- GoT
- spider man
...you see a lot of third person open world games. it's a great genre to be working in but i feel like it's over represented in sony's first party. they need a bit more variety.
I do agree with the multiplayer bit. CoD, Fortnite, etc are there.Well yes that's right and that's as far as Sony should be taking RPGs.
But I don't agree with the RPG bit. I don't think a big RPG is that far off from what Horizon is. Even God of War has a fair amount of RPG elements. Bloodborne is absolutely an RPG.
I don't think Sony has built themselves as specifically a third person action-adventure company, even though a lot of their biggest titles are that. But I think they have built themselves as a single player story company which RPGs fit into that.
They actually consider Horizon to be an action adventure RPG. Mechanically that game has more in common with Skyrim, than it has with Killzone I would say. Even though it lacks some of the RPG elements, I wouldn't say it's that far off.
Well yes that's right and that's as far as Sony should be taking RPGs."Should be"
Guerrilla move was good but it shouldn't be the norm, most studios have found what they're best at now. God of War wasn't too much of a transition either.you mad bro.
Yes you do see a lot of similar games which was exactly my point and I see that as a good thing. People know Sony are the best at these games, if its a completely different genre then the guarantee is lost.i didn't mean to say that TLoU and Uncharted was anything like the rest. But Uncharted and TLoU as pretty simular as you'd expect since they are both ND. I said "a lot of third person open world games" not exclusively. too much simularity in their top teir games was my only point.
Also you are missing GT7 & Driveclub as top racing games, R&C, Astro Bot and LBP/Sackboy as platformers. Also an action adventure Uncharted is very different to a game like Ghost of Tsushima. The Last of Us and Spider-Man have very little in common.
Any RPG and FPS games from their current studios would be a bad move, imo. We're seeing some fresh stuff with their upcoming next gen lineup but they're still sticking with their strengths, I think its the right strategy.i'm not saying i disagree with that necessarily. personally i think days gone is the best example of a bad use of first party resources. the studio didn't have a long list of prior games set expectations for what they are capable. they worked on resistance and uncharted and syphon filter. they really could have done anything from there. I think they could have found more success by finding something a bit more unique in sony's first party line-up. as is days gone feels like last on the list of games to play only if you already played sony's other third person open world shooters..
I do agree with the multiplayer bit. CoD, Fortnite, etc are there.i agree with the horizon bit. we'll see what forbidden west brings but it seems like they tried to work in the RPG elements to be "fallout like" but just didn't quite make the mark. hopefully they can move the franchise in that direction a bit. i liked the story line but more freedom would be nice.
But I don't agree with the RPG bit. I don't think a big RPG is that far off from what Horizon is. Even God of War has a fair amount of RPG elements. Bloodborne is absolutely an RPG.
I don't think Sony has built themselves as specifically a third person action-adventure company, even though a lot of their biggest titles are that. But I think they have built themselves as a single player story company which RPGs fit into that.
They actually consider Horizon to be an action adventure RPG. Mechanically that game has more in common with Skyrim, than it has with Killzone I would say. Even though it lacks some of the RPG elements, I wouldn't say it's that far off.
you mad bro.LBP3 sucked but its still a title they pushed at e3 and Sackboy is a game they're pushing now. We're talking about first party games that Sony is promoting, how much they appeal to people and therefore sell is less important. Astro Bot isn't really that big but its another platformer. Sony are still pretty good with platformers. Its not their main focus but they make platforming games and that's diversity. Its probably the level you want them to make other genres.
i didn't mean to say that TLoU and Uncharted was anything like the rest. But Uncharted and TLoU as pretty simular as you'd expect since they are both ND. I said "a lot of third person open world games" not exclusively. too much simularity in their top teir games was my only point.
yes, i should have included GT. Fair point but I probably should have also included Infamous Second Son.
I excluded astro bot and lbp on purpose. i'm sorry if you disagree but LBP 3 was a terrible game handed over to a studio not good enough to handle the property. I don't think anyone can make a sound argument that sony even attempted to make this a system seller. it was a mid-teir game given to a low-teir developer and it shows. Astro bot was a great game but clearly a mid-teir effort,.. the exact kind of game i wish they'd make more of (see earlier post) but not a top-teir effort.
lol drive club. clearly aiming for AAA but blotched. this game never made sense to me anyways because GT is already such a huge franchise. why of why did sony approve two sim racer franchises?!? the genre is popular enough to need two.i'm not saying i disagree with that necessarily. personally i think days gone is the best example of a bad use of first party resources. the studio didn't have a long list of prior games set expectations for what they are capable. they worked on resistance and uncharted and syphon filter. they really could have done anything from there. I think they could have found more success by finding something a bit more unique in sony's first party line-up. as is days gone feels like last on the list of games to play only if you already played sony's other third person open world shooters..
LBP3 sucked but its still a title they pushed at e3 and Sackboy is a game they're pushing now. We're talking about first party games that Sony is promoting, how much they appeal to people and therefore sell is less important. Astro Bot isn't really that big but its another platformer. Sony are still pretty good with platformers. Its not their main focus but they make platforming games and that's diversity. Its probably the level you want them to make other genres.generally i agree with you. one of the things i love about sony is they seem content to let development teams work on what they want to work on. you can really see the passion for their games in the work they complete. I wouldn't force changes on any of the studios but at the same time i think sony should influence or suggest they work on types of projects that give playstation studio's overall a more well rounded output. honestly this wasn't a problem on ps2 or ps3. only on ps4 do i think first party got a bit to "samey".
Driveclub had a botched launch but quickly became amazing once it was fixed and in the end after incredible post launch support its the best racing game ever imo. Also its not a sim, its closer to arcade. Racing is still big and 2 racing games on the whole gen for PS4 is actually not great from Sony but its okay I guess.
And yeah I'll agree on Days Gone, Bend are the one studio I'd say sure do something new because I really couldn't care less for Days Gone and it didn't review very well. Their other big studios are all pretty much amazing at what they do. Bend are not.
Horizon would be worse if it went more into RPG stuff for my taste, it was pretty much at the limit already.
Basically my argument is that Sony's devs are almost all amazing at what they do and have a reputation now. It wouldn't make sense for them to change and I don't want them to. They should create new studios and buy new studios if they want to go into new genres, or let their smaller studios grow and try more stuff. Naughty Dog, Insomniac, Santa Monica, San Diego, Sucker Punch, Guerrilla, Polyphony, Media Molecule are all already doing what they do best and its varied enough. They finally built up their reputation with PS4, it'd be a shame to risk it or not use it by doing something totally different.
Naughty Dog could mix it up a bit if the new San Diego studio replaces them on Uncharted style games. Media Molecule could try actually making games again. Japan studio do lots of unique stuff already but could mix it up more. PixelOpus could grow a lot and do something unique like Concrete Genie on a bigger scale. Bend should stop with the generic zombie shame.
generally i agree with you. one of the things i love about sony is they seem content to let development teams work on what they want to work on. you can really see the passion for their games in the work they complete. I wouldn't force changes on any of the studios but at the same time i think sony should influence or suggest they work on types of projects that give playstation studio's overall a more well rounded output. honestly this wasn't a problem on ps2 or ps3. only on ps4 do i think first party got a bit to "samey".PS4 was the one that had a problem with being samey but it was also the best gen for first party Sony games by a long long way. Building a reputation for a type of game really works.
basically i'm saying get more studios but don't get studios that feel like ND or SM. In summary:
- force MM to make games and not game engines. they make amazing games. to not make even 1 game for all of ps4 is such a fudgy waste. ..and yes i'm intentionally not counting dreams because from everything i've read it had almost no campain from MM.
- put bend on a new IP and not days gone 2.
- acquire new studios that WANT to work on big (mid-teir) games that aren't soo dark and first person shootery. Kena or R&C-esque games are my target here. high quality AAA that aims to look more like "pixar" than dark and dystopian and super high detailed graphics. dark games are stressful and sometimes i just want something more light-hearted. also these would be cheaper to make overall which would mean games more than once every 5 years. astro bot was great. so far i'm really impressed with sackboy a big adventure. but add in knack, rachet and clank, and lbp 3 we we are talking 6 games in the entire generation and 3 of them were crud.
- acquire or start about 5 high quality low-tier developers. i really, really miss the psn titles from the ps3 era and early ps4 era. they've given up here but some of my favorite titles include: echochrome, pixal junk shooter 1 and 2, sound shapes, escape plan, flower, journey, unfinished swan, hohokum, and fat princess.
PS4 was the one that had a problem with being samey but it was also the best gen for first party Sony games by a long long way. Building a reputation for a type of game really works.well i'm glad we are in full agreement with how to move playstation studios forward. now all that's left is for us to split Hermen Hulst's paycheck between us..
- yeah Dreams kinda sucks. I hate to say it but it is just a game engine that's accessible to all and while its cool it does not help the PS brand in any way, it isn't popular and Media Molecule's creativity is totally absent. You're right it had almost no campaign, it was a 2-3 hour weird thing with super low production values that would have got absolutely blasted by all media if it was put out as an actual game. MM are a game dev studio, they should make games.
- 100% no days gone 2 plz
- indeed, housemarque working on returnal level games would be perfect. And yes I think Sony needs more light hearted stuff for sure
- more smaller studios would be great. PixelOpus are awesome and exactly the right size for this, 4-5 more studios on that level to steadily put out smaller games would be fantastic.
Yall are crazy. Yes for days gone 2. That secret ending was crazy.Open world zombies is trash.
Open world zombies is trash.So many bad opinions. *smh*
Game devs seem to love PS5.Devs loving PS5 means we'll love PS5.
Two at digital foundry have on different occasions mentioned that developers are happy with the system, even moreso than the XSX. And that there are going to be some surprises.
Matt has implied several times the 10.3 is genuinely the level of performance you can expect at basically any time. (not always but it's the typical performance)
So many bad opinions. *smh*Spoiler for Hidden:
I don't know how many teraflops (lol) the PS5 has, but this is the sentiment I've heard from several technical-minded folks. One told me it was "the most exciting hardware in 20 years." Will be fascinating to see how it stacks up to the impressive Xbox Series X specs https://t.co/q7i0ET95Yq
— Jason Schreier (@jasonschreier) March 17, 2020
the statements in this video are pretty glowing for playstation and pretty damning for xbox.
The tear down greatly increased my expectations for the OS. If they are putting half that much attention to detail on the OS, I think it's going to be immensely better than the PS4 was.in what way?
in what way?It's not really a better.
i mean, clearly you don't "know" how is it better but really what is even your wishlist of how they could improve. for me other than "i wish everything loaded faster" there isn't much i can point to that truly needs drastic improvement. the most drastic change i can think of is i wish when i looked at my friends profile page it had a "wall" of their recent activity for videos or pictures they posted. basically make it a bit more like a social media page.
It's not really a better.Yeah we know PS5 seems very well thought out and well planned, points to the UI being really good and a lot better at launch than PS4 was.
PS4's OS was basically completely from scratch. Some things were nice and well implemented, but there were features missing that the PS3 had like folders. Took like 3 years to get folders.
So I was being pessimistic that it was going to be missing some obvious features at least on day 1.
Mostly I mean I'm no longer expecting any disappointing omissions like there were last gen.
Already know a few of the features from my wishlist are coming (like the wishlist on the PS store.).
At this point I'm almost expecting some kind of great feature that I hadn't even thought of before.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/western-digital-shows-their-first-ps5-compatible-ssd-on-their-press-material.302627/But have you thought about the fact that you have to take out a screw to put in the new SSD? What a massive misstep on Sony's part, yikes is all I can say. I would totally love being locked into a proprietary storage solution if it meant not having to do this monumental task. Especially since I change my harddrive weekly.
Seems we have the first PS5 expansion SSD.
Edit: good to note that the 1TB is the same price as the Series X expansion already, and that's with double the speeds. You have the option for different sizes and prices will keep dropping. This is why Sony's expansion solution is vastly superior.
Bugsnax previews live, here's kinda funny:having played octodad i have to say i was really dismissive of this game based on the first trailer. i'm quite surprised to see this is "a real-dog game". looks charming. i'll probably pick it up at some point.
Confirmed a launch title and its $25.
But have you thought about the fact that you have to take out a screw to put in the new SSD? What a massive misstep on Sony's part, yikes is all I can say. I would totally love being locked in to a proprietary storage solution if it meant not having to do this monumental task. Especially since I change my harddrive weekly.Sony will never recover from this anti-consumer move. They should learn from MS, to always go proprietary.
Absolute fail and it shows just how inferior Sony's "engineers" are to Microsofts masterminds.Spoiler for Hidden:
It's not really a better.my assumption is that the ps5 OS will be an upgraded ps4 OS instead of a re-write. i don't expect missing features in the way that ps4 had missing features. I do expect some amount of reworking but nothing drastic.
PS4's OS was basically completely from scratch. Some things were nice and well implemented, but there were features missing that the PS3 had like folders. Took like 3 years to get folders.
So I was being pessimistic that it was going to be missing some obvious features at least on day 1.
Mostly I mean I'm no longer expecting any disappointing omissions like there were last gen.
Already know a few of the features from my wishlist are coming (like the wishlist on the PS store.).
At this point I'm almost expecting some kind of great feature that I hadn't even thought of before.
But have you thought about the fact that you have to take out a screw to put in the new SSD? What a massive misstep on Sony's part, yikes is all I can say. I would totally love being locked in to a proprietary storage solution if it meant not having to do this monumental task. Especially since I change my harddrive weekly.somebody was reading vgchartz? or is it more than just dirty that is being dumb as a box full of rocks?
Absolute fail and it shows just how inferior Sony's "engineers" are to Microsofts masterminds.Spoiler for Hidden:
somebody was reading vgchartz? or is it more than just dirty that is being dumb as a box full of rocks?God no, I don't go there anymore. Several Xbox fanboys have been trying to turn this into some massive advantage Microsoft has, plus one of the host on the Kindafunny Gamescast went on to a whole stupid rant about this as well.
https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9227062
According to a new Square Enix recuritment page, Final Fantasy XVI has already wrapped up basic development and scenario production
— Nibel (@Nibellion) October 8, 2020
The current focus appears to be now on boss battles and "large-scale resources" + expanding dev toolshttps://t.co/TNKgpyh6ov pic.twitter.com/JYvuDNU2op
Looking great.why did you order 2 if you didn't know what to do with it? isn't the point of 2 so you can resell it for 2x the original price?
Maybe I'll buy it.
I also still need to figure out what to do with my second ps5 preorder.
why did you order 2 if you didn't know what to do with it? isn't the point of 2 so you can resell it for 2x the original price?I ordered from Amazon and then got the private link from Sony. If I do sell the Amazon PS5 it'll just be at cost. No interest in scalping.
Looking great.You have a dear friend who wasn't able to preorder.
Maybe I'll buy it.
I also still need to figure out what to do with my second ps5 preorder.
You have a dear friend who wasn't able to preorder.are we talking about you? I'm pretty sure a pre-order cannot be transferred so you'd have to work out a deal where you send him money and hope that he actually changes the shipping address to you. not sure he can be trusted. afterall, people denying the existence of robots may be robots themselves...
You have a dear friend who wasn't able to preorder.Were you trying to get one at launch?
are we talking about you? I'm pretty sure a pre-order cannot be transferred so you'd have to work out a deal where you send him money and hope that he actually changes the shipping address to you. not sure he can be trusted. afterall, people denying the existence of robots may be robots themselves...I ain't no robit!
Were you trying to get one at launch?I want one at launch, but I don't think wifey is going to let me. :'(
I ain't no robit!Hypothetically, I could send you the money + shipping money. Then you could ship me whatever comes second.
Yeah can't transfer it. Plus I don't know if Amazon or Sony will be fastest. Both should be day 1, but Amazon might put me in a later batch and Sony might suck at shipping. 1st world problems lol
I want one at launch, but I don't think wifey is going to let me.Seems you need a new router.
Hypothetically, I could send you the money + shipping money. Then you could ship me whatever comes second.Still have a couple weeks to figure it out. Hopefully Amazon doesn't throw any last minute curveballs.
Although at that point I wouldn't get it at launch.
Seems you need a new router.That video is hilarious
Still have a couple weeks to figure it out. Hopefully Amazon doesn't throw any last minute curveballs.
Lol talk about a photo finish.
LittleBigPlanet 3 Sackboy vs PS5 Sackboy pic.twitter.com/gT1INCQoIV
— Nibel (@Nibellion) October 9, 2020
i'm still a bit worried about this title simply because sumo digital doesn't have a backlog of high quality games to solidify a reputation as a good developer...
Fast fingers
That's like 99.7% compatibility. They undersold themselves.Yep, only 10 is even better than I was expecting. Lets hope BC errors for games that can be played are very infrequent.
ps5 launch games are gonna kill my walletThat's why Sony increased prices
PS4 only games:That's an awesomely small list. no "major" games on that list either. for me personally only shadow complex remastered matters to me and to be completely honest,.. i bought that game in 2014. it's been over six years kitler53,.. if you haven't played it by now you probably never will.
DWVR
Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
Just Deal With It!
Shadow Complex Remastered
Robinson: The Journey
We Sing
Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
Shadwen
Legend's Diner
That's why Sony increased pricesThe wallet was already dead, Pezus.
Someone on Era found this: https://support.playstation.com/s/article/backward-compatibility?language=en_US&lan=Now that's what I wanted to hear!
Key points:
PS4 games playable on PS5 consoles
The overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 games are playable on PS5 consoles.
- Select PS4 games will benefit from the PS5 console's Game Boost, which may make PS4 games run with a higher or smoother frame rate.
- Although many PS4 games are playable on PS5 consoles, some functionalities that were available on the PS4 console may not be available on PS5 consoles. In addition, some PS4 games may exhibit errors or unexpected behavior when played on PS5 consoles.
PS4 only games
While the majority of PS4 games are playable on PS5 consoles, below is a list of PS4 games that are playable on PS4 only. On PlayStation™Store, PS4 games that are not playable on the PS5 console will be marked with 'Playable on: PS4 only'.
PS4 only games:
DWVR
Afro Samurai 2 Revenge of Kuma Volume One
TT Isle of Man - Ride on the Edge 2
Just Deal With It!
Shadow Complex Remastered
Robinson: The Journey
We Sing
Hitman Go: Definitive Edition
Shadwen
Legend's Diner
Playing PS4 game discs on a PS5 console with a disc drive
- Insert the PS4 game disc. You may need to download an update.
- Select the game hub from your Games home.
- You will need to keep the disc inserted each time to play the game.
PS4 game discs can't be used with the PlayStation®5 Digital Edition.
Transfer digital games from a PS4 console to a PS5 console
- You can transfer digital games and saved data from a PS4 console to a PS5 console using WiFi data transfer.
- You can access PS4 games on a PS5 console directly from a PS5 extended storage drive.
Install a PS4 digital game on a PS5 console
- Select game library from your Games home.
- Select the game you want to play.
- If you haven't already downloaded the game, select Download.
- The game will install automatically. Depending on the game, you may have the option to copy and play a portion of the game right away.
PS5 backwards compatibility limitations
- The SHARE menu cannot be displayed during PS4 gameplay on PS5 consoles. You can take screenshots and images by pressing the create button on your DualSense wireless controller to show the create menu.
- HDR is automatically switched on for PS5 consoles. To turn off HDR, go to Settings > Screen and Video > Video Output > HDR and select SDR.
TLDR:
-Confirmed that PS5 accesses PS4 digital library and can download
-List of only 10 PS4 games that don't work on PS5
-Select PS4 games work with boost mode
-You can transfer your PS4 digital games and saves to PS5 via wifi
The wallet was already dead, Pezus.Ever played mortal kombat?
Legend Diner is my favorite diner-based franchise, what a huge oversight from Sony.Diner Dash is better you son of a!!!
Diner Dash is better you son of a!!!Listen here. I'm not a violent person, but I'm willing to break that rule, if you trash talk Legend's Diner like that again.
When PS5 launches this November, more than 99% of the PS4 library will be playable on PS5.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 9, 2020
Your top backward compatibility questions, answered: https://t.co/VV4qNSa3oA pic.twitter.com/44WKSvcvae
Nice so it was getting ready for an official article.When PS5 launches this November, more than 99% of the PS4 library will be playable on PS5.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 9, 2020
Your top backward compatibility questions, answered: https://t.co/VV4qNSa3oA pic.twitter.com/44WKSvcvae
We're excited to share that all of our PS4 games will be backwards compatible on #PS5, including: The Last of Us Part II, The Last of Us Remastered, Uncharted 4, Uncharted: The Lost Legacy, Uncharted 1 - 3, and the Jak series!
— Naughty Dog (@Naughty_Dog) October 9, 2020
More info from @PlayStation: https://t.co/LM96fGqxuh pic.twitter.com/7pN95ZCzPh
Also, the PS5 HD Camera is not compatible with PS VR on PS5.I'm surprised by that. I see no reason why the new camera wouldn't work.
Can I stream PS4 games on PS5?i'm sorry but what's the point of that? If i have to have my ps4 on i might as well just play there...
Yes, Remote Play from PS4 to PS5 and PS Now streaming are supported. The benefit of streaming is that you can save your storage space on PS5. Please note that PS4 games will not leverage PS5's Game Boost through streaming.
PS5 owners playing with Game Boost will see an extra option to allow frame rates up to 60FPS, and while loading speeds on the PS4 are already great, just wait until you see them on the PS5!
— Ghost of Tsushima ???? OUT NOW (@SuckerPunchProd) October 9, 2020
This is awesome stuff! I'll definitely play at least a bit of this on PS5 for that sweet FPS.PS5 owners playing with Game Boost will see an extra option to allow frame rates up to 60FPS, and while loading speeds on the PS4 are already great, just wait until you see them on the PS5!
— Ghost of Tsushima ???? OUT NOW (@SuckerPunchProd) October 9, 2020
This is why we wait for PS5.
This is why we wait for PS5.This is why i haven't played GoT or TLoU2 yet. 2022 can't come soon enough!! xD
Hopefully they have lined up ports for this and TLOU2 early 2021PS5 owners playing with Game Boost will see an extra option to allow frame rates up to 60FPS, and while loading speeds on the PS4 are already great, just wait until you see them on the PS5!
— Ghost of Tsushima ???? OUT NOW (@SuckerPunchProd) October 9, 2020
This is why we wait for PS5.
I should've bought everything digitally on PS4. They're making me want the disc drive because the other version doesn't allow BC for the discs you own.you should've bought everything digitally because disc swapping is a horrible 1st world problem that i wouldn't wish upon my greatest enemy.
*If players originally purchase a PS4 game disc, the PlayStation 5 with an Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive is required to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version of the game and transfer their saves over.
I should've bought everything digitally on PS4. They're making me want the disc drive because the other version doesn't allow BC for the discs you own.Is this a genuine problem or are you just joking around? Of course you need the discs if you bought them physically.
*If players originally purchase a PS4 game disc, the PlayStation 5 with an Ultra HD Blu-ray disc drive is required to upgrade to the PlayStation 5 version of the game and transfer their saves over.
you should've bought everything digitally because disc swapping is a horrible 1st world problem that i wouldn't wish upon my greatest enemy.Yeah this is true, but digital prices have always been higher here and I'd rather save money. If there's no reputable places that sell PS5 games for cheaper than the PS5 store then I'll be buying a lot more digital next gen but its worth the £90 extra for me to have that option, also its a 4K blu-ray player.
the better BC is just gravy.
you should've bought everything digitally because disc swapping is a horrible 1st world problem that i wouldn't wish upon my greatest enemy.I bought 99 % of my stuff digitally. Only physical when I saw an insane deal (which is extremely rare here)
the better BC is just gravy.
Is this a genuine problem or are you just joking around? Of course you need the discs if you bought them physically.I was hoping they'd allow activation with a code inside or something lol. I want to go all digital
Yeah this is true, but digital prices have always been higher here and I'd rather save money. If there's no reputable places that sell PS5 games for cheaper than the PS5 store then I'll be buying a lot more digital next gen but its worth the £90 extra for me to have that option, also its a 4K blu-ray player.
Sony should let us take our games to a store so that they can burn the discs and give us a free code for that game.It's good for the environment
I was hoping they'd allow activation with a code inside or something lol. I want to go all digitalWell that's obviously impossible, you could sell or give the disc to someone else and then they'd have duplicated a game and lost a sale.
Well that's obviously impossible, you could sell or give the disc to someone else and then they'd have duplicated a game and lost a sale.They can find a way around it ???
my only ps4 disc is astro bot rescue mission and that's only because it was bundeled with my psvr. i went 100% in the last years of ps3.I have Astro on disc too because I got it as a gift. Also spyro, rdr2 and dmc5
https://www.resetera.com/threads/devil-may-cry-5-se-loads-in-4-seconds-on-ps5-24-seconds-on-ps4.304277/I wonder how the ps4 version loads on ps5
Nice to get some more real load time comparisons for PS5.
I wonder how the ps4 version loads on ps5same cause not sure i'll buy the SE edition for ps5. Wish it was a free upgrade for ps4 owners.
same cause not sure i'll buy the SE edition for ps5. Wish it was a free upgrade for ps4 owners.I don't think it would even be considered to be offered for free when its basically got a decent sized new DLC included. Its not even that expensive either, seems like a good priced offering to me.
I don't think it would even be considered to be offered for free when its basically got a decent sized new DLC included. Its not even that expensive either, seems like a good priced offering to me.oh no doubt, i get why its not. I'll probably get it eventually since i've got tons already i want to buy day one.
I don't think it would even be considered to be offered for free when its basically got a decent sized new DLC included. Its not even that expensive either, seems like a good priced offering to me.Just too bad I recently bought the base version. Haven't touched it because I might want to play on ps5. Then again, I probably am not getting a ps5 until next year anyway so might as well (plus it might be the digital edition so I won't be able to play my dmc5 anyway on it)
Dev Hints Games That Aren't PS5 Backwards Compatible Can Be Patched (https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2020/10/11/ps5-backwards-compatible-patch/)Interesting. I wonder what it is that's causing them to not run on PS5.
At least one of the devs is working on patches.
Interesting. I wonder what it is that's causing them to not run on PS5.It could be a bunch of things.
from the SECRET-secret menu : PS5 (https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/ja1nz1/from_the_secretsecret_menu/)sweet,. a ps3 retro console is a great way to augment the lack of BC on ps5!!
Burger King posted an ad to the ps5 sub. Teasing the 15th. ;D
TT Isle of Man 2 Will Receive PS5 Backwards Compatibility Update - Push Square (https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/10/tt_isle_of_man_2_will_receive_ps5_backwards_compatibility_update)Yeah, amazing. Lets hope they run without issues as it seems series X BC isn't that great, could be the same for PS5.
TT isle of man 2 will be getting a patch.
This is crazy.
I was expecting like 40 games to not be compatible on PS5, instead it looks like we will only have 8 or fewer.
TT Isle of Man 2 Will Receive PS5 Backwards Compatibility Update - Push Square (https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/10/tt_isle_of_man_2_will_receive_ps5_backwards_compatibility_update)this is crasy. nothing like getting called out i suppose but if BC is for everything expect 5 titles than that is amazing.
TT isle of man 2 will be getting a patch.
This is crazy.
I was expecting like 40 games to not be compatible on PS5, instead it looks like we will only have 8 or fewer.
Cover Reveal – Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales: https://t.co/IFQSWK4S1X pic.twitter.com/dFqvZDce1u
— Game Informer (@gameinformer) October 13, 2020
I'll pass on bk. More of a kentucky fried console fan.
???????? https://t.co/t0M38a1ZSV
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 12, 2020
Spider-Man: Miles Morales - Game Informer Impressions
— Shinobi602 (@shinobi602) October 13, 2020
-PS5 Performance Mode: Dynamic 4K/60FPS
-PS5 Fidelity Mode: 4K/30FPS, ray-tracing+other improved visuals
-No load screens, even when fast traveling
-Very impressed with ray-tracing
Much more inside: https://t.co/5dfDOD0fDB pic.twitter.com/xdrY6TfPgx
Performance Mode
- 4k/60fps
- Screen-space reflections instead of ray tracing
- Native (dynamic) resolution is lowe than in Fidelity Mode
Fidelity Mode
- 4k/30fps
- Ray Traxing
- Other visual enhancements
No load times on PS5. Just a screen flash when you fast travel. On PS4, loading is a mix of Spider-Man images with tips or subway rides.
Standard PS4
- 1080p/30fps
PS4 Pro
- 4K/30fps
Attention fellow game lovers, peers and enthusiasts: Behold the first Playstation 5 game! Hot off the presses, this is the first to manufacture next gen retail game in the world. Congratulations to Counterplay Games and the team here at Gearbox Publishing! pic.twitter.com/ki9YbynRIe
— Randy Pitchford (@DuvalMagic) October 14, 2020
Yes, soon means today.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) October 15, 2020
I also said consoles (plural) so there will be in depth stuff from both Xbox and PlayStation today. https://t.co/8F4MKyJWfc
https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot15-compatible-with-99-of-previous-ots-see-threadmarks-for-list-of-unsupported-ots.306661/post-48536584UI incoming was obvious from the BK tweet.
+Yes, soon means today.
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) October 15, 2020
I also said consoles (plural) so there will be in depth stuff from both Xbox and PlayStation today. https://t.co/8F4MKyJWfc
UI incoming.
UI incoming was obvious from the BK tweet.
Thank you Burger King for leaking the PS5 UI reveal date pic.twitter.com/gjNrByG0Ts
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) October 15, 2020
I think its clear as we get closer to launch that Sony knew exactly what they were doing with their PS5 advertising campaign and marketing push. Its been annoying for us to wait and some people criticized but its kept the hype up and kept people excited and constantly wanting more. It might not have been the best for us as we wanted to know everything right away but it seems to have been the best strategy to actually sell the console.so what your saying is you think MS is totally ahead at this point?
Their communication could definitely have been much clearer at times and they still messed some things up, but that stuff has been pretty independent from the main marketing push
I think its clear as we get closer to launch that Sony knew exactly what they were doing with their PS5 advertising campaign and marketing push. Its been annoying for us to wait and some people criticized but its kept the hype up and kept people excited and constantly wanting more. It might not have been the best for us as we wanted to know everything right away but it seems to have been the best strategy to actually sell the console.By and large I agree, however I believe the delayed cross gen announcements for Horizon, Miles Morales and Sackboy were still unnecessary and an outrage Sony should have been able to see a mile away.
Their communication could definitely have been much clearer at times and they still messed some things up, but that stuff has been pretty independent from the main marketing push
(2/2) PS5ããã²ã¼ã æ©å²ä¸æ大ã«å£²ãã¾ãããã¨è¨ããã¯ã±ãæ¨å®å価ã¯ãªãã¨â¦ ï½ãã¸ãã¹+IT (https://www.sbbit.jp/article/cont1/44665?page=2)I'm sorry, what? 300 million ps5 lifetime sales?!?! that's crazy as an upper end..
300 mil ps5 prediction. 700 mil upper end.
I'm sorry, what? 300 million ps5 lifetime sales?!?! that's crazy as an upper end..Yeah I always love analyst predictions at the start of a new gen.
Yeah I always love analyst predictions at the start of a new gen.Can't remember the exact prediction, but I recall the PS4 getting a similar one.
Good morning everyone. I can officially confirm the PS5 does in fact come in a box. This will be the end of my coverage for the day. Thank you pic.twitter.com/9vSVAXyIch
— Jeff Bakalar (@jeffbakalar) October 23, 2020
I got a certain something in the mail this morning, which I’ll soon be reviewing! pic.twitter.com/3qecRkNpwN
— Elise Favis (@elisefavis) October 23, 2020
Can't wait to share some #PS5 impressions with everyone - but for today, we'll have to settle for the outside of the box. More to come on @TechRadar soon, though! (Small detail: check out the last photo for the content list inside the box.) pic.twitter.com/tOcU1MBJQj
— Nick Pino (@PowerstancePino) October 23, 2020
The weight of the #PS5 box has been revealed - 14.7 lbs. pic.twitter.com/gOUK7xuttf
— Geoff Keighley (@geoffkeighley) October 23, 2020
more:Pretty much everyone has posted they've gotten a PS5.I got a certain something in the mail this morning, which I’ll soon be reviewing! pic.twitter.com/3qecRkNpwN
— Elise Favis (@elisefavis) October 23, 2020Can't wait to share some #PS5 impressions with everyone - but for today, we'll have to settle for the outside of the box. More to come on @TechRadar soon, though! (Small detail: check out the last photo for the content list inside the box.) pic.twitter.com/tOcU1MBJQj
— Nick Pino (@PowerstancePino) October 23, 2020
next week should be a very good week. xD
Pretty much everyone has posted they've gotten a PS5.i didn't get one...
At least in the US.
Xbox fanboys will be playing with a magnifying glass and PlayStation fanboys will be playing with stop watches.
PSVR WorldsNew:
Astro Bot: Rescue Mission
Everybody's Golf VR
Spider-Man
God of War
God of War 3: Remastered
Have all gotten recent strange patches.
New:Good additions, Ghost also got a lot of bug fix updates recently, any one of them could be for PS5.
The Last of Us Remastered
Resident Evil 7
Final Fantasy VII: Remake
Concrete Genie
27th for unboxing, 6th for some more stuff, and then various embargos for launch games. It's all over the place. :)So basically we're waiting til the 6th for probably hands on UI and BC stuff then we'll get a drop of previews/ reviews of launch games after that.
WOW, what an adrenaline rush! Thank you Chad Jared Maja @StudioMDHR for letting me finish out my PS4 journey in style. Thankfully I've got two weeks to recover my strength before #PS5 hits! pic.twitter.com/XMGwkojs5W
— Mark Cerny (@cerny) October 26, 2020
like he's not already playing ps5. lmaoWOW, what an adrenaline rush! Thank you Chad Jared Maja @StudioMDHR for letting me finish out my PS4 journey in style. Thankfully I've got two weeks to recover my strength before #PS5 hits! pic.twitter.com/XMGwkojs5W
— Mark Cerny (@cerny) October 26, 2020
Cerny is ready for PS5.
ayyyy. My dualsense i ordered from Sony shipped!!! Too bad no console yet to play with it. Hopefully i can use it on PC for now.
ohhh and now the dualsense charging dock shipped!!!your wallet is $100 lighter and you can't play anything..
your wallet is $100 lighter and you can't play anything..He can use it on PC, PS4.
so looks like i'm getting my dualsense and charging dock tomorrow. 2 days before the sony website says is release date. Noice!!I'm lowkey hoping a similar thing happens with PS5s sold through their store.
Over the next two hours, we're going to be dropping updates on five upcoming #PS5 games at https://t.co/6rfZPfxTMf.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 28, 2020
First up — No Man's Sky is coming to PS5! Next-gen details: https://t.co/vlhAUgyrAx pic.twitter.com/Rq69zzEOsa
https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot15-compatible-with-99-of-previous-ots-see-threadmarks-for-list-of-unsupported-ots.306661/page-198#post-49658197fudge yeah, that's a perfect
Bugsnax, Hollow Knight, Shadow of War are Nov PS+ titles.
Kinda a disappointing month for PS5 though. Only one game with a PS5 version.99.9% BC so ps5 gets all 3 games + the 17 playstation collection games. what more do you want for day one?!?
99.9% BC so ps5 gets all 3 games + the 17 playstation collection games. what more do you want for day one?!?Indeed. Speaking of ps+ collection, crash n sane trilogy and black ops 3 have been added to it, so it's now 20 games.
Indeed. Speaking of ps+ collection, crash n sane trilogy and black ops 3 have been added to it, so it's now 20 games.say what?!? where and how did you see that and I didn't?
Bugsnax on ps+ is only the ps5 version.
99.9% BC so ps5 gets all 3 games + the 17 playstation collection games. what more do you want for day one?!?I'm not going to buy any PS5 games for a while so I want as much as I can get lol.
(https://i.imgur.com/52BghIe.jpg)you're a white guy?!?
(https://i.imgur.com/g4irzSV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lWMrTlQ.png)
ohhhhhhhhhhh. Its soooo good!!!!!
sorry huge pics. lmao
say what?!? where and how did you see that and I didn't?It's all in their tweet and blog post.
i'm cool with that personally, that's where i would have played anways. I just don't like their phrasing much and will feel better once I get to "redeem" the game via the web store so i know i have the game waiting for me once i get my ps5 early next year.
Starting Tuesday, PS Plus members can download Middle-earth: Shadow of War and Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition for PS4: https://t.co/fYQeDxYslr
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 28, 2020
Plus, a bonus PS5 game in November... pic.twitter.com/NqsMTi1AIZ
It's all in their tweet and blog post.ah, i see it now. very stealthy. they should have put more attention on there being even more games are coming then originally announced.Starting Tuesday, PS Plus members can download Middle-earth: Shadow of War and Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition for PS4: https://t.co/fYQeDxYslr
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 28, 2020
Plus, a bonus PS5 game in November... pic.twitter.com/NqsMTi1AIZ
https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot15-compatible-with-99-of-previous-ots-see-threadmarks-for-list-of-unsupported-ots.306661/page-198#post-49658197Holy shame
Bugsnax, Hollow Knight, Shadow of War are Nov PS+ titles.
ah, i see it now. very stealthy. they should have put more attention on there being even more games are coming then originally announced.More?
It's all in their tweet and blog post.So is that blogpost confirmation that all the games in the PS+ Collection take advantage of PS5 Game Boost? Including Bloodborne? I'm still not clear on how that works.Starting Tuesday, PS Plus members can download Middle-earth: Shadow of War and Hollow Knight: Voidheart Edition for PS4: https://t.co/fYQeDxYslr
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 28, 2020
Plus, a bonus PS5 game in November... pic.twitter.com/NqsMTi1AIZ
So is that blogpost confirmation that all the games in the PS+ Collection take advantage of PS5 Game Boost? Including Bloodborne? I'm still not clear on how that works.As I understand it, yes
As I understand it, yesWould be interesting to know the impact that will have. Even though I'm not itching to go play that game again any time soon.
So is that blogpost confirmation that all the games in the PS+ Collection take advantage of PS5 Game Boost? Including Bloodborne? I'm still not clear on how that works.Every* game supports boost mode, whether every game benefits from boost mode is a different story.
Hold hands alone or with a special someone in Haven, out December 3 on PS5 - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/28/hold-hands-alone-or-with-a-special-someone-in-haven-out-december-3-on-ps5/)
This looks interesting
Revealing the global launch ad for PS5 - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2020/10/28/revealing-the-global-launch-ad-for-ps5/)
Hype
zomg. i can't even watch this one. stupid company IT restrictions..
New:Days Gone (https://www.resetera.com/threads/days-gone-receives-25gb-update.315022/) don't see anything about loading times but it's a beefy patch.
The Last of Us Remastered
Resident Evil 7
Final Fantasy VII: Remake
Concrete Genie
Should be a good amount of gameplay shown later today. https://t.co/nuiFyhTB5d
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) October 29, 2020
Your first look at the Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Suit ????
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 30, 2020
?? this tweet to receive Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales updates leading up to launch. pic.twitter.com/DdyaDKvRc5
I'm glad I'm in my home office cause I wouldn't want my co-workers see me react like a giddy kid to this, but this is so dope. :DYour first look at the Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse Suit ????
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 30, 2020
?? this tweet to receive Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales updates leading up to launch. pic.twitter.com/DdyaDKvRc5
Oh wow this looks fantastic.
You know, its funny that playstation has the best controller now (by seemingly all accounts from people who have both). The controller was one point where PS was trailing xbox for so long. PS4 finally caught up a lot but most still preferred xbox, and now we have a situation where playstation innovated heavily with their new controller and everyone is blown away, and xbox did almost nothing.You know that is funny.
Playstation eliminating what used to be one of their biggest weaknesses, I think its quite significant.
You know, its funny that playstation has the best controller now (by seemingly all accounts from people who have both). The controller was one point where PS was trailing xbox for so long. PS4 finally caught up a lot but most still preferred xbox, and now we have a situation where playstation innovated heavily with their new controller and everyone is blown away, and xbox did almost nothing.Yes, but you see Assassin's Creed isn't native 4K. Clearly that's a real problem that people are going to notice real soon... when they are pausing their games to pull out the magnifying glass.
Playstation eliminating what used to be one of their biggest weaknesses, I think its quite significant.
* on Xbox Series X|S, all our Xbox One games will be backward compatible. On PlayStation®5, all games will be backward compatible except the following ones: Assassin's Creed Syndicate, Assassin's Creed Chronicles Trilogy Pack, Assassin's Creed Chronicles India, Assassin's Creed Chronicles China, Assassin's Creed Chronicles Russia, Risk, Star Trek Bridge Crew, Werewolves Within, Space Junkies.News - Ubisoft Connect (https://ubisoftconnect.com/en-US/news/ignt.23726)
News - Ubisoft Connect (https://ubisoftconnect.com/en-US/news/ignt.23726)say what? that's an awful lot of non-BC titles compared to the list sony posted. what's going on?!?
Imgur: The magic of the Internet (https://imgur.com/ojMm3pa)As a comparison to this, Spidey PS4 loads to controllable menu in about 48 seconds, game loads from menu in about 30 seconds for a total of 1min 20 seconds to get into the open world.
Miles Morales on PS5 load times - from booting the game cold, through the game menus and into the open world takes 15 seconds total.
If you can't watch - PS5 home screen to controllable game menu is about 10 seconds, game loads from menu in about 2 seconds.
I guess it won't be here today..Hey at least you're still getting it super early!
Hey at least you're still getting it super early!Let me talk with my wife! Is the digital or is there a disc?
Also anyone need my Amazon PS5 order? I'm going to get rid of it.
Let me talk with my wife! Is the digital or is there a disc?It's the big boy with the disc.
It's the big boy with the disc.Does Amazon tend to do good with launches?
Does Amazon tend to do good with launches?in my experience no. i've never done hardware but like half of my disc pre-orders were late. sometimes really, really late. ....late enough that i just canceled the order and drove to the store to buy the game i wanted because being more than 2 weeks late on a game is ridiculous.
Does Amazon tend to do good with launches?Back during PS4 it arrived on launch day. I'm fine just changing the shipping address to your location and charging $540 to cover tax.
in my experience no. i've never done hardware but like half of my disc pre-orders were late. sometimes really, really late. ....late enough that i just canceled the order and drove to the store to buy the game i wanted because being more than 2 weeks late on a game is ridiculous.I had that happen with FF15 I think. Received the shipping notification saying it'd arrive on launch day, yet it just stayed at some random location. Eventually contacted customer support and it hadn't actually shipped at all.
I had that happen with FF15 I think. Received the shipping notification saying it'd arrive on launch day, yet it just stayed at some random location. Eventually contacted customer support and it hadn't actually shipped at all.yeah, it was hit and miss for me. the games that shipped on time generally showed up 1-day early. i wouldn't have cared if it arrived 1 day late but i got really, really angry about pre-orders that didn't even ship until days/weeks after the release date. not sure what went wrong but i did stop pre-ordering from amazon.
yeah, it was hit and miss for me. the games that shipped on time generally showed up 1-day early. i wouldn't have cared if it arrived 1 day late but i got really, really angry about pre-orders that didn't even ship until days/weeks after the release date. not sure what went wrong but i did stop pre-ordering from amazon.I'm pretty much only buying a PS5 day one to play my backlog and help with game development. None of the launch exclusives are must haves for me.
i'm kinda jelly about you day-1 guys but i'm sticking to my guns on this. i'll buy early 2021 near the launch of ratchet and clank or GoW (which ever comes first). i'm still holding out some hope for a R&C or GoW special edition but that's probably a fools hope. demand will be soo high in the launch window i'm sure it's not worth sony's time to make any special editions until 2022.
I'm pretty much only buying a PS5 day one to play my backlog and help with game development. None of the launch exclusives are must haves for me.Give me yours. Spidey, Demons Souls, Bugsnax are all must haves for me
Give me yours. Spidey, Demons Souls, Bugsnax are all must haves for meWell I have two.
I'm pretty much only buying a PS5 day one to play my backlog and help with game development. None of the launch exclusives are must haves for me.well demon's souls, spiderman, and sackboy are all must plays for me. Godfall and bugsnax are want to plays as well. but as I've said in relation to gamepass,.. i very rarely buy games day-1 (only three times last gen). Ratchet and clank and GoW are the only 2 in the near future that are day-1 titles for me. i've got no problem waiting for price drops on any of these. i mean, i call spiderman a must play but i waited for the last spiderman to drop to $20 to buy it and still haven't played it so clearly waiting is not a problem for me.
well demon's souls, spiderman, and sackboy are all must plays for me. Godfall and bugsnax are want to plays as well. but as I've said in relation to gamepass,.. i very rarely buy games day-1 (only three times last gen). Ratchet and clank and GoW are the only 2 in the near future that are day-1 titles for me. i've got no problem waiting for price drops on any of these. i mean, i call spiderman a must play but i waited for the last spiderman to drop to $20 to buy it and still haven't played it so clearly waiting is not a problem for me.I feel fine not waiting because I doubt the PS5 price will have decreased by the time I jump in. $500 today or $500 next year, might as well start enjoying it now.
honestly the combo of BC and SSD is the most compelling reason for me to upgrade early out of any gen so far. ..but i'd prefer to wait for at least 1 must play day-1 title first.
I feel fine not waiting because I doubt the PS5 price will have decreased by the time I jump in. $500 today or $500 next year, might as well start enjoying it now.a fair point.
a fair point.I'm buying both so I'm wasting $500 either way
but if ps5 is dead on arrival because xbox is the clear market favorite i'll say $500 by not buying the wrong system..
Here's where the creator's intent comes in. The PS5 is not merely sanding off rough edges, nor is it agnostic to how game development works, and the orthodoxies and hierarchies that have, over time, hardened into plain fact. It is, in some ways, a corrective, meant to nudge how studios work.PlayStation 5 release: The PS5 aims to deliver a whole new feel for games - Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/video-games/ps-5-release-games-features/)
"There's a pecking order within the game teams. The graphics folks get the lion's share of the hardware resources and the audio team has to struggle to get much anything at all," says Cerny. Once, while briefing a developer on the PS5′s high performance audio processor, he says he was told, "Great, we'll use that unit for AI." During one of his studio tours, Cerny recalled meeting 120 workers -- none of whom worked in audio.
"It isn't as if the developers didn't know I wanted to talk audio. In fact, I'd made it fairly explicit. It's that audio is somehow viewed as being auxiliary to the rest of the game, when it's absolutely at the center," says Cerny. "During game development it's pretty typical to make a first playable demo that over-indexes on the graphics -- the graphics might be at near-publishable quality -- but have audio that's just placeholder."
3-D audio, which, as the name implies, positions audio in space around the player, is a passion of Cerny's. "Game audio is certainly functional," he says. "I wanted it to be amazing." To develop it, he enlisted the work of international experts across Tokyo, San Mateo and London. ("Trust me when I tell you that makes it rather hard to schedule a teleconference," said Cerny). Now, because audio is so crucial to immersion (and is thereby important to Cerny) the PS5 boasts impressive new audio capabilities. And in the meantime, the old way of doing things -- in this case, sidelining audio engineers -- is quietly being nudged.
"Returnal" is a third person shooter about a space pilot stuck in a time loop.
"Returnal" is a third person shooter about a space pilot stuck in a time loop. (Sony Interactive Entertainment)
"The audio side is now more of a full team blending a wide range of expertise, including level and enemy design," said Harry Krueger, game director on "Returnal," a third person shooter about a space pilot stuck in a time loop. It's also a horror game, where audio really matters in creating the proper tension for players. "Each sound source is recorded in relation to how a real person would hear the sound actually coming from each direction. … It's similar to the way we have always done things, but now we simply record things many times from many directions, apply more nuanced layers, and then of course spend even more time tweaking things in the final product."
The same holds for developers implementing haptic feedback in the controller, which replaces rumble to offer a more tactile play experience.
"Rumble always used to be something we would put in at the end. It was like, 'Oh we need to put the rumble in because there's camera shake.' Haptics is completely different," said Gavin Moore, creative director of the "Demon's Souls" PS5 remake. "It's something that you have to think about from the start because it works with the visual and the audio."
I've thought about Sony's push with 3D audio and haptics that these are Sony's progress on immersion from VR research. And that's probably the case.PS5 is all about immersion, but it's mass market immersion. Pseudo- VR might be a better description than proto-vr.
But I suddenly had a thought that maybe it's not quite that simple. It almost feels like a way of kind of putting psuedo-VR into the mass market's hands. "That crazy sensation of putting you into the game with audio, haptics, we can do that with visuals too."
PlayStation 5 release: The PS5 aims to deliver a whole new feel for games - Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/video-games/ps-5-release-games-features/)sounds great to me. I also think audio is a crucial part of a game experience and wished it play a more central role in game design.
I still don't care that much about audio. :Pevery once and a while I come home from work really late and I need to wait for my train in chicago union station.
Also I was unimpressed by HD rumble in the switch.Spoiler for Hidden:
If you're taking a ride on the Broken Road for the first time, or finishing up NG+, here's what you can expect when you boot up #DaysGone on the #PS5:
— Bend Studio #DaysGone (@BendStudio) November 3, 2020
???? Up to 60FPS w/ Dynamic 4K
???? Save Transfers from PS4 to PS5 pic.twitter.com/qP2ugQO4hc
guessing that's mostly boost mode. No way it can't hit 60fps and 4k on ps5Yep it's boost mode.
it would be nice if at least sony's first party would patch and make all theirs native 4k and 60fps
i wish amazon would update my delivery estimate. I would think with just about a week left it should be by now. Hopefully in a few days. If its gonna ship for release day it will likely ship by tuesday/wednesdayI'm so nervous. :'(
i wish amazon would update my delivery estimate. I would think with just about a week left it should be by now. Hopefully in a few days. If its gonna ship for release day it will likely ship by tuesday/wednesdayMy xbox series x still hasn't updated. Once that happens, PS5 can't be far behind.
My xbox series x still hasn't updated. Once that happens, PS5 can't be far behind.yeah when i did ps4 mine was release day delivery with 2-day shipping
Last time around I remember them using 2 day shipping.
I'll tell you how dear kitler. Its because those who are outside the US, dont really give a flying fudge.honestly i'm in the US and i don't even give a flying fudge. Both candidates suck dog, but just so happens Biden isn't as bad. World will go on either way.
Sure, Biden is better than trump, but still... those outside the USA don't rally care much
i don't know how you guys can continue a discussion about video games right now.Some of us need a distraction.
maybe it's just my depression but i just can't even a flying fudge about playstation today. the world is in the balance and could be dead by the end of the day...We know where we are at, at this point. Biden is almost certainly in.
It's made by the DriveClub devs. ;)
This video sold me on Dirt 5 for PS5 launch. Its thankfully normal price here (£45) so I don't have the debate over whether its worth a ridiculous extra £25 like I do for other launch games. I really wanna use the dualsense for a racing game that's optimised for it, that's one of the top things I'm hyped for with next gen. Can't wait.
It's made by the DriveClub devs. ;)Yep, one reason I've been really wanting it but I had reservations and waited for reviews. It sounds a bit more arcadey than Driveclub and I prefer Tarmac racing to offroad but its good enough for me, especially as an early next gen title.
Now that's a trailer!
Like the Xbox Series X, the PlayStation 5 is also able to quick resume a game if you turn it off and come back to it later. Although the Switcher icon that some noticed on the Home menu is basically just a history button, showing you the last few games or apps that you used and starting them up from scratch if you want to play them again.Edit: could just be one game from this wording though, so would be same as PS4.
Comparação dos ruídos do PS4 vs #PS5 .
— Humberto Pedro #Humaboy (@hscpedro) November 7, 2020
Que alívio! pic.twitter.com/tF0zvJT0Cg
Despite what some reports say, loading times on Xbox Series X are not faster than PS5. Our biggest launch exclusive only takes 15 seconds to load, whereas Xbox's biggest launch exclusive won't load for months.
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) November 7, 2020
omg this guy is good.Despite what some reports say, loading times on Xbox Series X are not faster than PS5. Our biggest launch exclusive only takes 15 seconds to load, whereas Xbox's biggest launch exclusive won't load for months.
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) November 7, 2020
I thought this guy quit doing thisDespite what some reports say, loading times on Xbox Series X are not faster than PS5. Our biggest launch exclusive only takes 15 seconds to load, whereas Xbox's biggest launch exclusive won't load for months.
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) November 7, 2020
I thought this guy quit doing thisHe came back due to Covid
Sony asked me to come back to this account to announce the following:
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) March 22, 2020
1. Stay at home unless it is absolutely necessary
2. Wash your hands regularly
3. Please stop sending us pictures of your ear. I don’t know why @cerny said that.
omg this guy is good.(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTYIqy0Schyys8HPRkKVQkXWMrilGSLxmzACA&usqp=CAU)
DS remake reviews when?Well they first have to make a death stranding remake.
It seems PS5 doesn't allow VRR or 1440p right now (just 4k,1080p and lower). Also no 8k. This is despite Sony advertising 8k and VRRNext gen coming in hot!
Well they first have to make a death stranding remake.Next gen coming in hot!They must enable it later?
They must enable it later?Seems they will.
Do you have a preference between a vertical or horizontal orientation, aesthetically speaking or otherwise?https://www.resetera.com/threads/launcher-ps5-designer-%E2%80%98when-i-started-drawing-it-was-much-larger%E2%80%99.322456/#post-51036682
I don't have a PS5 yet. laughter If I could get one, personally, I would go for both. I designed both [the standard and digital editions of the PlayStation 5], so I would buy both and place one vertically and one horizontally.
I really love the look of the PS5, at least in pictures. Every time I see this image I just love it.PS5 in vertical orientation is a genuinely gorgeous looking piece of tech. The UI looks amazing too. Can't wait.
(https://i1.wp.com/www.otaquest.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/PS5-Shutdown.png?resize=768%2C429&ssl=1)
Some PS3 games suddenly have price tags on PS store.not seeing it. link?
Seems to be the PS Now.
not seeing it. link?https://www.resetera.com/threads/killzone-3-and-resistance-2-two-games-ps3-games-only-available-on-ps-now-are-appearing-with-price-tags-on-ps-store-on-ps4.322525/
https://www.resetera.com/threads/killzone-3-and-resistance-2-two-games-ps3-games-only-available-on-ps-now-are-appearing-with-price-tags-on-ps-store-on-ps4.322525/they should just let me buy the steaming rights to individual games.
I found Killzone 2, 3, Resistance 3 have price tags. Seem to match up with PS Now prices.
But strangely most games don't have price tags.
Sony gives your PS4 a second life: slinging a PS5 to another room of your house - The Verge (https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/9/21556803/sony-ps5-remote-play-ps4-app-streaming-games)wasn't going to but even still this isn't a think I would use. I only game in my gaming den.
Oh wow! Don't sell yalls ps4s yet
My GAME pre-order has updated to be using Yodel as the courier for delivery. I'm pretty nervous as I don't think I've ever seen them deliver something before. Hopefully it'll be fine, the delivery is tracked so at least I can keep an eye on it.oh man. yodel has the highest damaged delivery rate of any carrier.. g'luck.
@the-Pi-guyWe want a live unboxing
Amazon delayed your PS5 by 2 hours. Now arriving Thursday by 10 PM. Everything still seems fine though.
The Pathless Review - IGN (https://www.ign.com/articles/the-pathless-review)More coming in, will land around 80 it seems. Another very good launch title for PS5, what an amazing lineup.
The Pathless for PlayStation 5 Reviews - Metacritic (https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-5/the-pathless)
Seems good so far.
We want a live unboxingI'm so excited I've been thinking about doing this.
pretty enough but a poor taste of gameplay. too much walking.
Looks great on ps5!
So are we gonna transition out of this thread for talk about games since we have the PS community thread and stuff? Or will this just take over that now?Hehe, I was wondering what people wanted to do.
I'd kind of like to go back to having dedicated discussion threads/ OTs for games but idk if there's enough of us for that.
Hehe, I was wondering what people wanted to do.The PS community thread has too much history to ditch! I vote we just make this thread about PS5 hardware and UX when its launched. Games can be community or their own threads.
This is really a PS5 related thread, so stuff like OS updates might be relevant. But we know the hardware and the games would fit well within PS community thread. But it also seems nice to transition out of the PlayStation community thread.
I'm kind of in favor of this being the new PS community thread, and having dedicated game threads for big games.
I think we should focus more on multiple community threads. Have the general playstation thread for general things but have other threads for large games and important things. Back like how we had threads for bloodborne and the order.But what do you want for this thread?
I mea shouldn't this thread just be retired soon after launch? We had launch threads before for games and stuff.But someone worked so hard on this thread. :(
But someone worked so hard on this thread. :(And this thread has been amazing!
And this thread has been amazing!(https://c.tenor.com/anr4PAQ4WYEAAAAM/arresteddevelopment-its-happening.gif)
Also good news! Your PS5 is preparing to ship from Amazon. Can't edit the order anymore.
Godfall and Sackboy embargos are lifted, they only started them a day or two ago so its mostly early reviews/ in progress so far.Godfall getting worse reviews than I expected. Looks like it could go sub 60
Both about what we were expecting so far it seems.
Godfall getting worse reviews than I expected. Looks like it could go sub 60Yeah out of only 6 reviews so far having two 50s and a 40 is terrible. That 85 looks like an outlier. Looks like this might be a deep sale game.
People only getting access to Demon's Souls now but there's no embargo of any kind apparently.Weird.
The what?
Oh my god Dawn French!!!!! fudge, I need it.
The what?Dawn French is a beloved UK comedian.
So mine now says estimated Monday the16thEurope isn't getting it until the 19th so there's that
Fuuuck. But I'll see if it ends up shipping today
Europe isn't getting it until the 19th so there's thatThat's true.
So mine now says estimated Monday the16thOuch. Knock on wood but both mine and Pi's still list tomorrow.
Fuuuck. But I'll see if it ends up shipping today
How fast is the fast travel in #MilesMoralesPS5?
— Jordan Middler (@JordanMiddler) November 11, 2020
The answer is: ridiculously fast.
Clip from: https://t.co/ZOd1ESUoC3#PS5 #PlayStation5 pic.twitter.com/RxWP7vY83h
So that's what they mean by fast travel. :oHow fast is the fast travel in #MilesMoralesPS5?
— Jordan Middler (@JordanMiddler) November 11, 2020
The answer is: ridiculously fast.
Clip from: https://t.co/ZOd1ESUoC3#PS5 #PlayStation5 pic.twitter.com/RxWP7vY83h
Finally you're faster by fast travelling than not lolHow fast is the fast travel in #MilesMoralesPS5?
— Jordan Middler (@JordanMiddler) November 11, 2020
The answer is: ridiculously fast.
Clip from: https://t.co/ZOd1ESUoC3#PS5 #PlayStation5 pic.twitter.com/RxWP7vY83h
Finally you're faster by fast travelling than not lollol, yes. too many games last gen fast travel was 50/50 on being faster to walk or fast travel.
Biggest surprise of the launch has to be Sackboy. It’s a gorgeous, super smooth 60fps platformer. A perfect launch game. Just pure joy and so beautiful - shockingly so. pic.twitter.com/e7Rt8RQwB6
— John Linneman (@dark1x) November 11, 2020
Now DF are just heading into fanboy territory lulzBiggest surprise of the launch has to be Sackboy. It’s a gorgeous, super smooth 60fps platformer. A perfect launch game. Just pure joy and so beautiful - shockingly so. pic.twitter.com/e7Rt8RQwB6
— John Linneman (@dark1x) November 11, 2020
Now DF are just heading into fanboy territory lulzNah.
Now the question on everyone's mind: will my console make it in time from Detroit?Mine still says Tennessee ::)
Now the question on everyone's mind: will my console make it in time from Detroit?Distances are so big in America. I worry when a delivery of mine is still in any other city, even if its less than an hour drive.
Distances are so big in America. I worry when a delivery of mine is still in any other city, even if its less than an hour drive.And here there are a couple cities an hour away that deliver out here.
Boy it sure looks like I was wrong about Sackboy. Shouldn't have doubted Sumo.sumo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo_Digital) and tarsier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsier_Studios) do good work when given a good project and a decent budget. both have worked well with sony recently. both would be good aquisitions (imo) to face the onslaught of MS acquisitions that has already happened and surely will continue to happen.
And here there are a couple cities an hour away that deliver out here.Yeah. My city isn't big but its big enough that it has its own warehouses and there's lots of deliveries to be made.
So if it's an hour away in the morning, that's when I stop worrying. ;D
sumo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumo_Digital) and tarsier (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarsier_Studios) do good work when given a good project and a decent budget. both have worked well with sony recently. both would be good aquisitions (imo) to face the onslaught of MS acquisitions that has already happened and surely will continue to happen.Agreed about both Sumo and Tarsier. They make great games and have great potential, even if not everything is a hit.
i also wish sony would buy FromSoftware (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FromSoftware). that seems like something MS would buy just out of spite for sony to keep the souls games off their platform.
Distances are so big in America. I worry when a delivery of mine is still in any other city, even if its less than an hour drive.My PS5 is over 1,000 miles away to put it into perspective.
Agreed about both Sumo and Tarsier. They make great games and have great potential, even if not everything is a hit.independence would be ideal but MS has made their intensions clear. they are going to buy out as much of the video game industry as they can to monopolize the industry. sony really needs to be proactive about protecting their playstation brand.
FromSoft would be huge but I hope they can stay independent.
independence would be ideal but MS has made their intensions clear. they are going to buy out as much of the video game industry as they can to monopolize the industry. sony really needs to be proactive about protecting their playstation brand.From Software would be difficult for MS:
No matter how many times I check UPS, the package doesn't deliver any faster.Mine hasn't even shipped. :'(
First world problems. :'(
The next generation of play is lighting up around the globe. #PS5 pic.twitter.com/hqP6FxI3OH
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) November 11, 2020
It's now 50% further away than it was last night. :'((https://c.tenor.com/NNri_UNGAbIAAAAM/fast-and-furious-the-rock.gif)
DualSense just arrived. First impression of just the feel of it while off, its amazing!!Yeah it's great. Only 2 downgrades from ds4 imo. The create+options button are a little tiny. The rumble has less oomph.
First off it just looks amazing, what a sexy piece of tech. The weight of it is great, its a fair bit heavier than DS4 which is perfect. It also fits into my hands much nicer. It feels a lot like an XB1 controller which just feels amazing to hold and clearly outclassed the dualshock 4, the Dualsense is now on par. The triggers feel a fair bit nicer than the dualshock and the shoulder bumpers are a big improvement. Analogue sticks are much nicer, they grip better and it feels like I have much more precise control, although that may just be due to so much use on my dualshocks.
So yeah, just awesome all round, can't wait to use this thing.
Yeah it's great. Only 2 downgrades from ds4 imo. The create+options button are a little tiny. The rumble has less oomph.Is your PS5 going to make it?
I love everything else about it!
Is your PS5 going to make it?Yes. Still not sure on yours?
Yes. Still not sure on yours?It says there was a delay.
A late flight has caused a delay. We will update the delivery date as soon as possible.But it still seems on track for a later delivery today.
Yep, it's happening!!!YAY!!!!!!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
According to my source that is familiar with the development team Bluepoint Games, they're finalizing a deal right now. It seems like Demon's Souls was kind of the "final test", and based on positive reactions, and the fact that Bluepoints work ethic has proven impressive once again Sony started acquisition-based talks with the studio.
The important parts of the deal are as follows
From Bluepoint's angle:
They want to make sure they get a shot at an original IP, they don't want to be simply a "remake studio" (Even if they make more remakes)
While they value and love their independence, they also realize the industry is rapidly growing and evolving. They feel comfortable with their existing partnership with Sony and decided to sell to them.
From Sony's angle:
Very impressed with the work-ethic from Bluepoint. Creates groundbreaking remakes, at a good pace.
They have a good relationship with other SIE studios, particularly Sony Japan Studios that they worked together with during both Shadow of the Colossus and Demon's Souls. (Ape Escape fans, whatupppp) ((that wasn't an ape escape remake teaser, literally don't know anything about what they're doing after souls))
The expertise, skill, and tech that Bluepoint has for their remakes can be used for future projects not necessarily made by them. (In other words, if Team Asobi decides to create an Ape Escape Remake, they can go to Bluepoint for help)
The deal is being finalized and should be announced shortly, the time period I've been given is that it'll happen before February 28th. If it doesn't, it might not happen/be false information given to me. This means that you're free to discredit me as it most likely won't happen for one reason or another
We've spoken with MarsipanRumpan and while they may have sources, they weren't able to provide any concrete evidence to support these claims. So take it with a grain of salt. MarsipanRumpan is posting this at their own risk and has agreed to accept a ban if these don't pan out by 2/28/2021.
Today's the big day! So happy :-) #PS5Launch pic.twitter.com/oBOKFztrzF
— Mark Cerny (@cerny) November 12, 2020
Got my PS5 Digital Edition from Somy Direct this morning, opened it up and found a disc-based console in the box!
— Corey Cudney (@CoreyCudney) November 12, 2020
I’m not mad at all, just thought it was crazy! Either way, here’s to a new generation!! #PS5 pic.twitter.com/rRfGsh32Yx
Era rumor threada good aquisition imo.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-sony-to-acquire-bluepoint-games.324523/
That's really really funky lol.Got my PS5 Digital Edition from Somy Direct this morning, opened it up and found a disc-based console in the box!
— Corey Cudney (@CoreyCudney) November 12, 2020
I’m not mad at all, just thought it was crazy! Either way, here’s to a new generation!! #PS5 pic.twitter.com/rRfGsh32Yx
A couple of updates: Serial Numbers on the box and system do match and the console’s disc drive does work! pic.twitter.com/6cx6qkOPkP
— Corey Cudney (@CoreyCudney) November 12, 2020
Yeah it's great. Only 2 downgrades from ds4 imo. The create+options button are a little tiny. The rumble has less oomph.Those are two upgrades. The buttons are much clickier and nicer to press. And "oomph" in a rumble is a bad thing, you want nice precise feedback, not overpowering vibrations that take your precision away.
I love everything else about it!
....snip...yeah, but somewhere out there someone probably is unlucky and got a DE instead of a disc version.
Lucky guy I guess
ICO remake or a ICO/SOTC spiritual successor please!!!i have no idea what kind of game bluepoint wants to make but I have no faith in that idea. also not exactly the kind of game that lights the world on fire.
Also just a side note, it's so great having this day finally arrive!!! I think I'm finally free to talk about PS5 lol.
Those are two upgrades. The buttons are much clickier and nicer to press. And "oomph" in a rumble is a bad thing, you want nice precise feedback, not overpowering vibrations that take your precision away.lol that's one opinion. DS4 had the best rumble out there up till today. I wouldn't call it overpowering or non precise, at least when used properly by a dev.
So I held up the dualshock 4 and the dualsense to my mum and said which one do you think is the newer one and there was no doubt in her mind, she knew straight away. Said the dualsense looks futuristic, like its out of Star Wars.
i have no idea what kind of game bluepoint wants to make but I have no faith in that idea. also not exactly the kind of game that lights the world on fire.Bluepoint did an ICO remaster, a SOTC remaster, and a SOTC remake. I think they at least know the material really well. Risky sales though. They've grown so much since then.
looks like the founder of the studio game game out of retro working on metroid prime. that could be an excellent direction to go in. metroid and dark souls and bloodborne share a lot in the level design perspective. ...branched open world. it is, imo, a big part of what makes all 3 games soo popular.
also it looks like the studio built the vita version of playstation all-stars. i would love another attempt here that sucked less.
lol that's one opinion. DS4 had the best rumble out there up till today. I wouldn't call it overpowering or non precise, at least when used properly by a dev.Lol well I meant that oomph isn't the be all and end all, stronger vibrations can be a bad thing.
Yeah PS5 and DuelSense look very futuristic. I miss the colored face buttons but love the clear plastic look.
Bluepoint did an ICO remaster, a SOTC remaster, and a SOTC remake. I think they at least know the material really well. Risky sales though. They've grown so much since then.
Don't give them PSASBR2! Talk about a game that wouldn't set the world on fire.
so how does one go about adding the playstation collection to their library? I was able to snag bugsnax here (https://store.playstation.com/en-us/subscriptions) but the games from the playstation collection are still full priced to me. I know i'm only supposed to be unlocked the ps5 versions or something but i'd like to add them to my account asap in case their is a change to what games are included. fomo and all..Someone said you are only able to redeem them on the PS5 store.
Someone said you are only able to redeem them on the PS5 store.yeah, i'm just reading that off of resetera now. fair enough but i'm going to be mad if they aren't still there by the time i get a ps5.
Lol well I meant that oomph isn't the be all and end all, stronger vibrations can be a bad thing.I have never had good rumble on switch, but I've only played Zelda+Mario+demos.
Also nah the dualshock 4 isn't the best, Switch has by far the best rumble I experienced, it's just not often used to its fullest.
i didn't actually intend to buy one but walmart was clear about their order for ps5 going live at 11 ET. i was 7 minutes late but they were already out of stock. I'll refresh again at their next "restocking" at 3. I'll try to be on time next time.so i tried again for the 3:00 allocation. 6 minutes of not being able to load the page. ..then the page loaded and they were out of stock. xD
I have never had good rumble on switch, but I've only played Zelda+Mario+demos.Have you tried looking at the setting for it? You can change the intensity
Duelsense has really nice rumble. It's pretty similar to switch in general but both of them are a paradigm shift compared to the old ways. DS4 let you get pretty specific with the frequency of vibration and you could adjust it freely, but modern haptics allow multiple frequencies to overlap exactly like a speaker.
Have you tried looking at the setting for it? You can change the intensityYeah I've spent a lot of time with the settings haha. Duelsense rumble is not weak, it's just more advanced tech that has different things it excels at.
It has arrived.*inception trailer sound effect*
My ps5 arrived!!!My 18 minutes of exclusivity were fun while they lasted.
I forgot how short the PS5 hdmi cord is. For now I have to wire it infront of my cabinet lol. Can't close it.How long is it?
How long is it?4 ft or so. Series x feels like 6 ft.
4 ft or so. Series x feels like 6 ft.Ah okay, that's fine for me.
Actually there's a whole number of things causing issues. PS5 seems absolutely riddled with problems.Don't vape into it!
Dolby ATMOS and DTS:X available for Blu-ray and Ultra HD Blu-ray disc video (when connected to a supported device)
Should I buy a game? I'm not feeling Astrobot and I'm not liking Bugsnax. I guess I should just stick with my backlog though. Don't really have time right now to be playing anyway.DS
I'm so proud to be @gankstrr's husband. https://t.co/yJplnATsKf
— Greg Miller (@GameOverGreggy) November 12, 2020
Should I buy a game? I'm not feeling Astrobot and I'm not liking Bugsnax. I guess I should just stick with my backlog though. Don't really have time right now to be playing anyway.Not feeling Astro? Boo this man!
Not feeling Astro? Boo this man!Music was catchy tho.
DSDemon's Souls and Valhalla are the only games out that I'm tempted to buy. More coming over the next few weeks at least.
Demon's Souls and Valhalla are the only games out that I'm tempted to buy. More coming over the next few weeks at least.Spidey?
Spidey?I'd play Spidey but I wouldn't pay for Spidey.
I'd play Spidey but I wouldn't pay for Spidey.Against Astro and Spidey?
Actually to be honest, I am not spidey's biggest fan. Wasn't what I grew up on. I was more on the DC side of things. :PI just don't really care for superheroes and and that type of game right now. I'm big on freedom atm.
But Spiderman PS4 is pretty good. Well worth playing. And paying for!
I just don't really care for superheroes and and that type of game right now. I'm big on freedom atm.What has more freedom than being a superhero?
Actually to be honest, I am not spidey's biggest fan. Wasn't what I grew up on. I was more on the DC side of things. :PSame, only got into superheroes with the MCU and I'm still not that big into them. The Spidey game was just fantastic, and Miles is an amazing follow up.
But Spiderman PS4 is pretty good. Well worth playing. And paying for!
What has more freedom than being a superhero?Superhero has zero freedom. Right now I like games where devs let players go off on their own path. Like right now in Outer Wilds. There is no quest system and no content gating. If I want to be clever and try doing something my own way, the game encourages that. It's the opposite of Kitler's LEGO game example.
Superhero has zero freedom. Right now I like games where devs let players go off on their own path. Like right now in Outer Wilds. There is no quest system and no content gating. If I want to be clever and try doing something my own way, the game encourages that. It's the opposite of Kitler's LEGO game example.<3
Should I buy a game? I'm not feeling Astrobot and I'm not liking Bugsnax. I guess I should just stick with my backlog though. Don't really have time right now to be playing anyway.Astrobot has a perfect user score on Metacritic, so you are clearly wrong. 8)
Astrobot has a perfect user score on Metacritic, so you are clearly wrong. 8)> Astro's playroom Metacritic:
> Astro's playroom Metacritic:(https://media1.tenor.com/images/0f04377fd5dab138e5c4b68456126da7/tenor.gif)
1 review: Der Nebel 10/10
Welp mines probably lost. fudgy ridiculousLost?
Lost?Says it was transferred to another carrier for delivery, that was yesterday at 6am. And it's still not out for delivery
Says it was transferred to another carrier for delivery, that was yesterday at 6am. And it's still not out for deliveryWeird. Can't you contact them?
Usually when it says that it's out for delivery within an hour
Weird. Can't you contact them?Yeah I'm gonna head down to the post office if it doesn't show up in this delivery.
So post office says they don't have it but then amazon customer service says it was in transit in my town. So who the hell do I believe. Lolstolen maybe?
So post office says they don't have it but then amazon customer service says it was in transit in my town. So who the hell do I believe. LolYou're sure it's USPS, not UPS?
You're sure it's USPS, not UPS?Yep it's USPS
stolen maybe?Sure hope not
Yep it's USPSi hopr it isn't stolen either but with a known relase date and size it seems to me someone might target it. ..or not even targeted, mail theft is quite common these days.
Sure hope not
I was surprised it wasn't UPS. Maybe it is but the tracking is mixed up
there is a queue on sonys direct store. Wonder if they have more stock. Says i've got more than an hour wait. Maybe i can snag one just in case if they are and i get inAwesome! Would be funny if your Amazon console turned up today now ;D
yep the in stock tracker i'm looking at says its in stock on their site. Crossing my fingers i get in and get one
ohhh wait time went to 22 minutes. Come on!!!
12 minutes!!!!!
Holy FUUUUCK I GOT ONE!!!
Awesome! Would be funny if your Amazon console turned up today now ;Di know right. It doesn't say out for delivery, but who knows. At least i'm good either way hopefully.
Good luck on your ps5!well if i get it i have a friend that wants to buy it
What will you do with the second?
What will you do with the second?I'm sure he will continue the tradition of selling it to his best internet friend.
oh my god its happening!!. Shipped and will be here tomorrow!!Wooh! Hopefully I'll have mine in 3 days, the wait will be painful.
Wooh! Hopefully I'll have mine in 3 days, the wait will be painful.my wait has sucked considering the amazon one was suppose to be here friday. Still didn't show up today. Likely lost or stolen at this point.
I want both.Probably Valhalla so far just cause I love assassins creed. But I'll probably get into Miles more right now since it's shorter and looks amazing.
Which are you enjoying more atm?
My VR camera adapter arrived, but it was addressed to the wrong name. I hope it was just a simple mistake and not something weird involving my account or how I purchased my headset.Interesting.
And wow demons souls is absolutely gorgeousLook at you, showing off with all the games you bought lol.
Look at you, showing off with all the games you bought lol.lol. Yeah since i didn't get the Series X i just bought more games.
And wow demons souls is absolutely gorgeousFinished Astro already?
OMG, it finally got dispatched!!!! :DIts finally our time my European bro
Arriving until tomorrow 11 PM, oh man.
Some stores here still can't say if they'll have systems ready tomorrow for people that preordered in SeptemberPeople who live in the major markets are definitely very lucky. I hope you can get yours soon enough.
Its finally our time my European broI'm not gonna believe it until I'm actually holding it in my hands tomorrow. :D
I'm not gonna believe it until I'm actually holding it in my hands tomorrow. :DAnd I still won't believe it until it plays games well and isn't a brick :-[
And I still won't believe it until it plays games well and isn't a brick :-[Oh yeah, what are we still allowed to do at this point? The internet told me half the things you would do with the PS5 will lead to bricking it. :D
People who live in the major markets are definitely very lucky. I hope you can get yours soon enough.Didn't order lol. I'll wait until it's more available. I'm in no rush
Oh yeah, what are we still allowed to do at this point? The internet told me half the things you would do with the PS5 will lead to bricking it. :DYou apparently can't play discs that you put in facing down
They composing for Cyberpunk? thats the only thing i can think of that's big coming.You just wait sunshine
— The Flight (@theflightmusic) November 18, 2020
Hinting at more to come?
My god, the size of this lad.Right. I was prepared for it to be big, but its just different in person. its a thing of beauty though.
Right. I was prepared for it to be big, but its just different in person. its a thing of beauty though.Yeah, I love it it looks amazing.
Speaking of, what orientation does everyone have theirs in?i'll be doing horizontal. i've got exactly 11.5 inches (yes i just measured) so since ps5 is 15.4 inches tall that means 4 inches would be in front of my tv in a vertical orientation.
I had mine vertical for a bit, but turned it horizontal. I like horizontal better
Got the plat for Astro. Loved it from start to finish, wish it was longer. 2 plats and a new PS5, pretty awesome day for me.2 plats?
Demon's Souls looks unbelievable in cinematic mode, performance mode feels so much smoother to play and still looks really great though.
2 plats?I finished up the Miles Morales plat on PS4 when I was waiting for the delivery.
Speaking of, what orientation does everyone have theirs in?I have mine vertical next to the TV, it looks great.
I had mine vertical for a bit, but turned it horizontal. I like horizontal better
Stupid question: Is the front USB port supposed to not stay powered during rest mode? Even with the 3 hour setting? I changed it to one of the backports and that's working, the controller is blinking.Front usb works for me. Don't know how to stop the ps4 version.
I just wasted 3 hours not loading my controller.... ;D
Edit: Also one legitimate annoyance so far. I downloaded the free PS5 version of Miles Morales, since I bought the physical PS4 disc. I don't want the PS4 version installed, since I don't need it. However every time I start up the PS5, from rest mode or cold boot, the system tries to copy PS4 version of Miles Morales onto my PS5 again, making quite a bit of noise.
Stupid question: Is the front USB port supposed to not stay powered during rest mode? Even with the 3 hour setting? I changed it to one of the backports and that's working, the controller is blinking.did you change your OS configration. I watched the DF video on the OS and I saw some settings around power savings (or whatever) that clearly indicated that the USBs could be disabled during rest mode. not sure at all what the defaults are but you should go check.
I just wasted 3 hours not loading my controller.... ;D
Edit: Also one legitimate annoyance so far. I downloaded the free PS5 version of Miles Morales, since I bought the physical PS4 disc. I don't want the PS4 version installed, since I don't need it. However every time I start up the PS5, from rest mode or cold boot, the system tries to copy PS4 version of Miles Morales onto my PS5 again, making quite a bit of noise.
200,000 people trying to order the PS5 from currys this morning ???? #ps5uk pic.twitter.com/5Quq0ZIpxq
— Jamie (@ccjip93) November 19, 2020
Save transfer for Miles was super easy and fast, pretty good system.i wish Ubisoft would have done that for valhalla. Now i have 13 trophies from when i played it on ps4 that i would have to replay the game to get on ps5
And yeah it does give you all the ps5 version trophies that your save qualifies for, so I just got another plat for free ;D
A lot of people have been talking about the ps5 downloading PS4 versions of cross gen games and yeah that's super annoying, it should be much clearer which version you're downloading and there should be a clear selection. It's really dumb the way it does it right now.
did you change your OS configration. I watched the DF video on the OS and I saw some settings around power savings (or whatever) that clearly indicated that the USBs could be disabled during rest mode. not sure at all what the defaults are but you should go check.The USB slots should be active and the one on the back I used to charge my Dualsense after the first failed attempt did work in Rest Mode. It was just the one in the front that turned off during Rest Mode. Since it works when the PS5 is on I'm guessing it's nothing technical with the machine, which is good. Maybe some bug, dunno
Any fps impressions with the dualsense? People seem impressed with codI'm on the fence about getting COD for PS5, I think if there's a decent BF deal for it I will.
but what does "some" mean. there will always be lemons. near as i can tell neither system has anything that has called a wide spread problem. the problem with the internet is that if MSony sells 10 million units this holiday you'll see all 50 failed units on the internet and it will start to look like a huge problem when in reality the failure rate is 0.0005 % which is a fantastic level of reliability.Aye, exactly. That's pretty much I was implying.
No sales numbers?And yeah no sales numbers is super odd. No idea what Sony are waiting for. If PS5 was tracking lower than PS4 so far then I can kinda see it, but we have every reason to think the opposite is true.
I think PS5 is actually seeing a very, very low hardware failure rate. There's just lots of problems with the firmware right now. The two problems I reported yesterday (Demon's patch not installing and disc game disappearing) are common problems that Sony seem to be fixing.Yeah Jim Ryan even said all of them were sold out. Maybe they don't want to show lower than expected production numbers?
PS5 will be super clean in a few months, and it will already have plenty of killer games by then too. Its gonna be a hot hot product next year.
And yeah no sales numbers is super odd. No idea what Sony are waiting for. If PS5 was tracking lower than PS4 so far then I can kinda see it, but we have every reason to think the opposite is true.
Yeah Jim Ryan even said all of them were sold out. Maybe they don't want to show lower than expected production numbers?Maybe they're reading the room and feel it'd be awkward to brag about their sales numbers, when so much of the internet is still enraged because they can't get one.... but more likely they are just being new Playstation, who is super inconsistent with this stuff.
So my dualsense controllers wouldn't turn on my ps5 today from rest mode. Had to hold the button on the console till it turned off then they started working. Freaked me the fudge out. lolI had that on ps4 a few times. Very scary!
We at Sony are also against console tribalism. In fact we are the best in the industry at hating console tribalism. We hate it at least 30% more than any other console manufacturer. PlayStation is the only place to play if you hate console tribalism. https://t.co/ZHCnU0UuwQ
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) November 24, 2020
phil is such a bag.We at Sony are also against console tribalism. In fact we are the best in the industry at hating console tribalism. We hate it at least 30% more than any other console manufacturer. PlayStation is the only place to play if you hate console tribalism. https://t.co/ZHCnU0UuwQ
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) November 24, 2020
phil is such a bag.Yes he only says this because it benefits him and their Xbox pass
most industry have fans and every industry wants them. he's just sour grapes that nintendo and sony have more fans.
The presentation opens by saying "everyone knows single player is dying," with a list of the top-selling PlayStation 4 video games that seems to crib this sales list, showing games like Grand Theft Auto V and Black Ops 3 dominating sales because of their multiplayer modes.
In the next slide, however, Sony explained that, in reality, its internal tracking data shows that "single player is thriving," and PlayStation users are regularly spending more time playing offline than online.
"In a busy world, that time [to play]" might not come for a while," reads another slide next to a photo of someone hiking through the mountains, holding a map. "When they finally do find a spare hour, they've forgotten where they were, and what they were doing. Then what?"Sony internal documents explain Activities (https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp34k/internal-sony-docs-explain-how-activities-became-a-cornerstone-for-ps5)
All of this, according to Sony, creates "friction," while their proposed system, dubbed the Universal Data System, can help solve.
"We can change 'should I start playing' to 'which part should I start playing?'" reads a slide next to a screen shot from Uncharted. "The options are there. The choices are clear. The game is calling. Pick up that controller. It's time to play.
Sony internal documents explain Activities (https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp34k/internal-sony-docs-explain-how-activities-became-a-cornerstone-for-ps5)Leakers gotta leak.
Sony internal documents explain Activities (https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp34k/internal-sony-docs-explain-how-activities-became-a-cornerstone-for-ps5)i don't have a ps5 so i can't say whether or not "activities" resolves these issues in any way but I can really relate to these points:
In 3 days we will be about 1% done with this gen.Can't wait for ps6
Rough math: 7*12=84 months per gen. And we are almost to a month.
Insomniac put out a 1080p RT 60 fps mode for Miles.Ooh
i'm going to be honest guys,.. ps5 era is bringing far too many "options". i'm not liking this whole research and pick the appropriate performance settings for my priority. part of the joy of consoles is the whole "optimized to the hardware" thing. at most we should have two options: fidelity and performance.Nah I much prefer this. Choice is good. Not everyone has 4k TVs for example, or 120hz TVs, but some do and want to use them!
i'm going to be honest guys,.. ps5 era is bringing far too many "options". i'm not liking this whole research and pick the appropriate performance settings for my priority. part of the joy of consoles is the whole "optimized to the hardware" thing. at most we should have two options: fidelity and performance.I don't think you really have to do any research. It's not like PC where have a dozen settings and have to hope it plays fast enough for your liking.
i'm going to be honest guys,.. ps5 era is bringing far too many "options". i'm not liking this whole research and pick the appropriate performance settings for my priority. part of the joy of consoles is the whole "optimized to the hardware" thing. at most we should have two options: fidelity and performance.I agree, although maybe I'm just being selfish because I prefer 30fps+pretty graphics and that has always been the default.
Nah I much prefer this. Choice is good. Not everyone has 4k TVs for example, or 120hz TVs, but some do and want to use them!It doesn't make them more scalable. A patch will still be needed to change how they run.
Makes games more scalable for future pro consoles too.
I agree, although maybe I'm just being selfish because I prefer 30fps+pretty graphics and that has always been the default.Well yes I guess I meant it gives more benefits when pro consoles come out.
It doesn't make them more scalable. A patch will still be needed to change how they run.
Dynamic resolution and framerates are the only things that automatically scale with better hardware, but they only become more consistent.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpHQxVTXUAMG7pY?format=jpg&name=small)Lul. Where's the stand?
Hermen Hulst plays his PS5 upside down.
I have put 5 hours into this system. I feel a bit guilty owning it.Give it to me ffs. Haven't bothered playing ps4 games I've bought because I want them 60fps stable
I have put 5 hours into this system. I feel a bit guilty owning it.Lol you should be guilty, there's lots of people who'd kill for the system and would use it way more. But at the same time its just one console and everyone who wants one will get one eventually, and its not like the games are going to disappear.
Give it to me ffs. Haven't bothered playing ps4 games I've bought because I want them 60fps stableMe too, but for whatever reason I haven't felt a drive to play my PS4 games yet. I want to finish Ghost of Tsushima.
Lol you should be guilty, there's lots of people who'd kill for the system and would use it way more. But at the same time its just one console and everyone who wants one will get one eventually, and its not like the games are going to disappear.I think come Christmas I'll be playing it a lot, but right now it's functionally equivalent to a PS4 for me. No rush to play older games and outside of Astrobot, I don't have any interesting new games. (loved astrobot)
I was just adding up my total PS5 play hours yesterday actually, I'm up to 90 hours now. Average of about 4 hours a day since I got it.
I'm pretty sure I've played like 40 or so hours.I'm glad you're enjoying it!
I'm glad you're enjoying it!Thanks!! :-*
I started Immortals: Fenyx Rising. Liking what I'm playing so far. It's pretty much assassins creed without the hidden blade and Isu stuffOn my list. Is it wrong to expect a botw like game?
On my list. Is it wrong to expect a botw like game?Yes and no. It does seem to have some influence of BOTW with its climbing and exploration, but has more "new" assassins creed style combat and gear.
I started Immortals: Fenyx Rising. Liking what I'm playing so far. It's pretty much assassins creed without the hidden blade and Isu stuffI'm on the fence about it as its on sale for £29.99, easily the cheapest good big PS5 game I haven't got yet. I don't wanna support Ubi and that's holding me back, but if I feel like I really want it I'll bite.
I'm on the fence about it as its on sale for £29.99, easily the cheapest good big PS5 game I haven't got yet. I don't wanna support Ubi and that's holding me back, but if I feel like I really want it I'll bite.Its definitely a very Ubi game with the "viewpoints" to uncover the map and to survey for different activities. I'm only about an hour in and it seems like a cute, whimsical Ubi game that isn't trying to be too serious.
February system software update #PS5Share pic.twitter.com/9TYePYAlgc
— SoK (@SoKfa_ce) February 3, 2021
So we are waiting on:Is the rest mode fix actually a thing? I thought it was a couple of games causing the problem.
Rest mode fix
8K, 1440p
VRR
External storage for PS5 games
Internal storage enabled
Folders
Would be nice:
Quick Resume
Is the rest mode fix actually a thing? I thought it was a couple of games causing the problem.It might be both.
It might be both.i had one crash with Godfall when putting into rest mode. i believe i had 1 or 2 other instances, but don't remember the games.
I've gotten a few crashes on random games.
Anyone know who trad_racer5 and cerulean_tilde4 is on PSN? I got a close friend request from them.I get those often enough. do not accept.
I get those often enough. do not accept.thats what i figured. Just wanted to check that it wasn't somebody here that i for some reason wasn't friends with.
(https://i.imgur.com/5CWdVl4.jpg)oops
The spring from the R2 of one of my Dualsense controllers.
oopsYep. Don't even know what broke it, I picked it up this afternoon and it just felt loose so I opened it up and found that. No indication of anything breaking before today.
Are people having issues with ps5 fans? My disc drive is super loud but my fans are silent.I don't think so, these are just made to try and catch a few people out like any scam.
Are people having issues with ps5 fans? My disc drive is super loud but my fans are silent.Some people are having issues with coil whine, but that isn't going to help.
I'm a little bit disappointed in some of the PS5 HW.It's funny how pre launch the massive size felt like they were being overly cautious. Now it just seems like a giant console aka launch PS3 2.0.
The expansion slot is apparently not being activated because there is a heating issue.
There is one RAM module that gets overly hot.
The disc drive gets ridiculously loud. It literally vibrates the TV stand.
There's a fan lottery. Mine is dead silent, but not for everyone.
None of the issues are likely big enough to matter. But I wish Sony invested more in the design.
It's funny how pre launch the massive size felt like they were being overly cautious. Now it just seems like a giant console aka launch PS3 2.0.Yeah me and Pi were talking about this before. Basically the excuse was well the PS5 is so big because cooling/ fan noise/ whatever. But it turns out the design is worse than Series X in every regard.
Sony says semiconductor shortage makes increased PS5 production difficult | Ars Technica (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/02/sony-shipped-4-5m-ps5s-in-2020-but-is-struggling-to-speed-up-production/)From Feb??
From Feb??Was new on resetera! I think...
Was new on resetera! I think...It got bumped.
OMg. what happened to will smith, he was here i swear it.Guess he fell on hard times and started shilling medicine.
Why do I feel like Sony has like 2 OS developers who have to do everything?i couldn't find anything when i searched now but i swear i read something a while back that indicated they have about 100.
Why do I feel like Sony has like 2 OS developers who have to do everything?PS5 OS I thought was okay because it runs a lot smoother than PS4's but it really does suck now I think. So many features missing compared to PS4 due to the fresh start, so so many things that the xbox consoles do way better.
Sony have done a good of visually representing some of PS5s features
PS5 hardware supports Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) through HDMI 2.1. After a future system software update, PS5 owners will be able to use the VRR feature of compatible TVs when playing games that support VRR.
PS5 is compatible with 8K displays at launch, and after a future system software update will be able to output resolutions up to 8K when content is available, with supported software.
TV speaker virtual surround sound won't be available on launch day for PS5 but is planned for a future update.
M.2 SSD storage functionality will come to PS5 after launch with an upcoming system software update.A lot to do yet.
Regarding PlayStation 5 supply shortages and Japan:https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot19-the-returnal-of-ratchet-clank-is-on-the-horizon.407436/page-133#post-63391722
"There are several reasons why PlayStation 5s are currently hard to obtain. Supply was extremely intricate under COVID-19, and distribution had to be online-only. Semiconductor supply and demand is also tight across the globe. We are asking our suppliers to increase production, and that will flow into the market in 2021."
"The current supply of PlayStation 5 in Japan is comparable to PlayStation 4 in the same period following its launch. We will continue to focus on the Japanese market and improve supply going forward."
"PlayStation 5 has a lot of software by Japanese developers from early on. And going forward, I would like to strengthen our ties with Japanese developers and release content for PlayStation 5 suited to the Japanese market."
Regarding the cloud games partnership with Microsoft announced in 2019:
"The conversation of exchanging ideas (with Microsoft) is ongoing. It's some extremely interesting stuff, and I hope to announce our cloud strategy when the time is right. While we could use the cloud for our technical infrastructure, the cloud game experience we offer will be unique to PlayStation."
Regarding competition for content such as Microsoft acquiring companies:
"We have been quietly, but steadily investing in high-quality games for PlayStation. And we will make sure the PlayStation 5 generation has more exclusive software than ever before. We have engaged in mergers and acquisitions several times in the past, such as with Insomniac Games. We will not rule out that option in the future."
Not worth a quote, but Ryan says that where sales usually peak in the third or fourth year of a console's lifetime, he can see a longer lifecycle for PlayStation 5 due to its health post-launch, and is more optimistic about the future now than he was a year ago.
Looks like some solid evidence to my past statements regarding #PSHome being relaunched for #PSVR2 on #PS5. Coming in on the new Soho Engine from London Studios. I’d expect a launch prior to PSVR2 for traditional TV gamers. Thank @LiquidTitan for the find.
— Tech Noir (@TechNoir_Talks) April 23, 2021
Nice ???? pic.twitter.com/F8njkRT1LR
Great to see the acclaim that @PlayStation 1st-party games on PS5 have received in the first six months:
— James Stevenson (@JamesStevenson) April 29, 2021
Astro's Playroom - 83/100
Demon's Souls - 92/100
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - 85/100
Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 79/100
MLB: The Show 21 - 78/100
Returnal - 86/100
Quite a big improvement.Great to see the acclaim that @PlayStation 1st-party games on PS5 have received in the first six months:
— James Stevenson (@JamesStevenson) April 29, 2021
Astro's Playroom - 83/100
Demon's Souls - 92/100
Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales - 85/100
Sackboy: A Big Adventure - 79/100
MLB: The Show 21 - 78/100
Returnal - 86/100
PS4:
Knack: 54
Killzone: 73
Infamous: 80
Due to technical reasons, we deactivated native 4k on PS5 for the release version of the game.
— THQ Nordic (@THQNordic) May 20, 2021
Biomutant is currently running at native 1080p upscaled to 4k on PS5.
Lol so downgrade to 25 percent the resolutionDue to technical reasons, we deactivated native 4k on PS5 for the release version of the game.
— THQ Nordic (@THQNordic) May 20, 2021
Biomutant is currently running at native 1080p upscaled to 4k on PS5.
Speaking of that, what is biomutant?I haven't heard much about it.
I've heard about it for so long but it seems to be reaching critical mass right now.
The Medium rated for PS5cool but from the review I saw I think this is not for me.
cool but from the review I saw I think this is not for me.It's worth your time, just maybe not worth your money :P
The Medium rated for PS5Will their next game not be exclusive then:?
Saw this on Era. Some of the scores are a bit off, but it indicates the big difference between PS4 and PS5 exclusives up to the same point launch aligned:Yeah Sony is no doubt killing it so far this gen.
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Yeah Sony is no doubt killing it so far this gen.i lol'd.
Also compare that to xbox... where there is not one single game to be put on that list
i lol'd.Im not a ratchet fan. I just played the remake, which was fun. But ill admit this does look like a good game.
just watched the DF and dear god do i want to play ratchet. but i think i may just wait for the first sale. i know it will only be $10 off but since i'm going to be 2 months late at the earliest,.. seems prudent to wait.
i already bought sackboy's big adventure on a whim when i was on a 2 week covid-scare lockdown. i think i can wait on everything else for quite a while to grab it at a better price.
Im not a ratchet fan. I just played the remake, which was fun. But ill admit this does look like a good game.my god. can you imagine if as they reveal their games at E3 this year everything but halo is dated 2022...
And its true, MS released a console with a "launch title" that we've seen one gameplay clip of. And had nothing else planned for another 12 months. So far we know its the only game coming from them this year.
my god. can you imagine if as they reveal their games at E3 this year everything but halo is dated 2022...I think we will get a forza game this year. But yeah I can completely imagine them having nothing else, unless Bethesda has a few unannounced games they were wanting to release this year. Perhaps a new Wolfestien.
Sony has zero AAA next gen exclusives announced.Not really faster when Sony have already put out 5 next gen exclusive games themselves.
Meanwhile Avatar and Suicide Squad are next gen only. It's crazy that it's possible 3rd parties will jump to next gen faster than Sony.
Not really faster when Sony have already put out 5 next gen exclusive games themselves.Zero AAA, as I said in my post.
Zero AAA, as I said in my post.You don't consider at least Demon's Souls, Returnal and R&C Rift Apart to be AAA?
Cheaper to develop games don't refute the point.
You don't consider at least Demon's Souls, Returnal and R&C Rift Apart to be AAA?Definitely not. They are all big games but as far as I know, they were much cheaper to make than Horizon, Gow, Tlou2, Got, AC Origins+Odyssey, Fallout 76, etc.
Definitely not. They are all big games but as far as I know, they were much cheaper to make than Horizon, Gow, Tlou2, Got, AC Origins+Odyssey, Fallout 76, etc.Interesting, never thought someone like you would have that opinion.
Maybe we really are in the age of AAAA games but there's a large gulf between the former and the later even though they all sell at the same price.
Interesting, never thought someone like you would have that opinion.Yeah AAA has been drying up as they get more and more expensive haha.
If you're not calling R&C a AAA game then there's only about 5 AAA games a year ;D
Sony has zero AAA next gen exclusives announced.https://www.resetera.com/threads/several-playstation-channels-states-ubisoft-massives-avatar-is-coming-to-ps4-recently-cancelled-last-generation-version.442582/
Meanwhile Avatar and Suicide Squad are next gen only. It's crazy that it's possible 3rd parties will jump to next gen faster than Sony.
Several PlayStation channels states Ubisoft Massive's Avatar is coming to PS4 (recently cancelled last generation version?)
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Game was set to release in 2020 so that makes sense. Meanwhile Sony delays GOW from 2021 to 2022 and adds PS4 lol.Remains one of the dumbest decisions ever in my mind.
edt: but I doubt it was as recent as the last month causing multiple versions of the trailer to be sent out.
Remains one of the dumbest decisions ever in my mind.Not as bad as releasing PS3 only games the year after PS4 released
Not as bad as releasing PS3 only games the year after PS4 releasedFine for the game, stupid for the business.
Is GoW going to PS4 really a big issue? Unless they had to scrap features to take it to PS4, it really doesn't matter if it goes to PS4.It's not a big issue, but yeah they are probably scaling back the PS5 version by releasing on PS4.
Fine for the game, stupid for the business.Well yeah and GT6 was pretty dang good but it had me wishing the whole time they had just made a PS4 version.
GOW2 turned out amazing.
Not as bad as releasing PS3 only games the year after PS4 releasedOr releasing Gran Turismo 6 a month before PS4 console launch with no PS4 version planned or ever made.
Fine for the game, stupid for the business.If they are scaling back then I'm totally against it. What sort of things will they scale back on? Won't it be as simple as making the PS5 version and then dialing back of resolution and features to get it to run on PS4?
GOW2 turned out amazing.
It's not a big issue, but yeah they are probably scaling back the PS5 version by releasing on PS4.
Or releasing Gran Turismo 6 a month before PS4 console launch with no PS4 version planned or ever made.Everything can be solved with money. In the case of Titanfall last generation, Bluepoint handled the 360 port and thus the game wasn't affected.
If they are scaling back then I'm totally against it. What sort of things will they scale back on? Won't it be as simple as making the PS5 version and then dialing back of resolution and features to get it to run on PS4?
Everything can be solved with money. In the case of Titanfall last generation, Bluepoint handled the 360 port and thus the game wasn't affected.I suppose it also depends when and how the decision to include PS4 was made. Do you think it was more Sony asking if a PS4 version was possible without compromising the PS5 version to much or Sony telling them to make it work. I'd probably go with the later. Sony doesn't want to ignore that 100M+ install base.
Sony could do that but most likely the PS4 and PS5 versions will be internally linked. Why spend the time prototyping a feature that only works on PS5 when the PS4 version is "good enough?" This matters in visuals but primarily matters for gameplay and level design.
You know how games have elevators and squeezing between rocks to hide loading? Those are pretty obvious but in reality almost every part of a game level is designed to function like this. Mountains are placed to block views, curves are used to slow the player down, etc. The limitations of the hardware are directly linked to how the world is arranged. It'd be very expensive for Sony to have a different version of environments on PS4 and PS5. Unless Sony is ok with the PS4 version running really poorly, they'll find a compromise somewhere in the middle of what each system is capable of and then work from there.
I suppose it also depends when and how the decision to include PS4 was made. Do you think it was more Sony asking if a PS4 version was possible without compromising the PS5 version to much or Sony telling them to make it work. I'd probably go with the later. Sony doesn't want to ignore that 100M+ install base.I wouldn't know. It seems the team and Sony agree on making the PS4 version so that's good for them but there are so many variables up till the game is out. For all we know, maybe the game was always cross gen and marketing just wanted to focus on PS5. Best to discuss it without ever mentioning absolutes haha.
You know how games have elevators and squeezing between rocks to hide loading? Those are pretty obvious but in reality almost every part of a game level is designed to function like this. Mountains are placed to block views, curves are used to slow the player down, etc. The limitations of the hardware are directly linked to how the world is arranged. It'd be very expensive for Sony to have a different version of environments on PS4 and PS5. Unless Sony is ok with the PS4 version running really poorly, they'll find a compromise somewhere in the middle of what each system is capable of and then work from there.I kind of figured this out with Jak 2.
Remote play is really incredible.agreed.
The PS remote Play app has some deficiencies with playing with a DualSense, but the experience is pretty surprisingly good. I actually feel like the experience is better on mobile than on PC, due to my network set up.
I've been using that mount quite a bit. Really nice alternative if you don't have your PS5 set up to a TV.
Getting into meme making?
Getting into meme making?Just this one.
The input lag with remote play is at a weird point, where I don't notice the input lag during gameplay but when I compare how I'm doing remote vs local, my skills are so much worse remote.Maybe different screen size or resolution?
Maybe different screen size or resolution?No, this was on the same monitor.
Aside from M.2 SSD support, this latest PS5 beta software also includes 3D audio support for built-in TV speakers. This will be available in the sound menu in the PS5's console system settings, and the feature uses the DualSense controller to measure the acoustics of a room to apply a 3D audio setting.Sony's first PS5 software beta arrives with M.2 SSD support - The Verge (https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/29/22599593/sony-ps5-m2-ssd-support-beta-features)
During early testing, the product team tested early demos using adaptive triggers with a motion controller in VR and were impressed with the results. "It felt amazing," Aoki said. "Especially because you can see yourself pulling the triggers in a gun simultaneously with what you were doing with your hands."DualSense Designer Explains Early Experiments for PS5 Controller - IGN (https://www.ign.com/articles/ps5-dualsense-controller-designer-early-experiments)
DualSense Designer Explains Early Experiments for PS5 Controller - IGN (https://www.ign.com/articles/ps5-dualsense-controller-designer-early-experiments)Can do that with all analogue inputs...
Can do that with all analogue inputs...But with varying levels of force required? 8)
Finally convinced my wife to let us get a new fancy TV. Getting the Sony X90J 65". 8)Sounds like a great TV. My Sony has held up for over a decade and still looks better than cheap modern TVs.
Finally convinced my wife to let us get a new fancy TV. Getting the Sony X90J 65". 8)Been considering a bigger and better TV myself. Between that and LG OLED for sure
Sounds like a great TV. My Sony has held up for over a decade and still looks better than cheap modern TVs.My current TV is a cheap Sony. 7 years old now, still looks decent.
Finally convinced my wife to let us get a new fancy TV. Getting the Sony X90J 65". 8)Didn't actually order it until today. Should be here on Saturday.
Didn't actually order it until today. Should be here on Saturday.How much was it?
I don't know if I'll ever spend this much on a TV again. Just seems like a good time to get a TV that my PS5 can actually use.
How much was it?It's on a good sale for $1300.
It's on a good sale for $1300.I only replace tvs when they break, so a great tv is a great investment imo. Unlike modern fridges and washers they can actually last a long time.
I might be completely wrong and feel like a nice TV is a must, but I spent like 1/3rd of that on my last TV. Not really used to spending money like this on a TV.
I'd probably go for the slightly cheaper X80J instead, in a different scenario.
It's on a good sale for $1300.Wow tvs are cheap in the US. Its probably like $4k here
I might be completely wrong and feel like a nice TV is a must, but I spent like 1/3rd of that on my last TV. Not really used to spending money like this on a TV.
I'd probably go for the slightly cheaper X80J instead, in a different scenario.
Please rename thread to TV talk ;DI'm just gonna start posting 3D tv stuff here.
My first TV with any of: 120 Hz, 4K, HDR, smart TV. 8)Make sure you remove any motion processing among other things. Can cause soap opera effect
65" is awesomely huge. I don't think my family has ever had a TV quite this big. My parents had one close.
The couple of things I was worried about (reflection handling mostly) hasn't been an issue whatsoever.
I kind of worry that the TV is "too good". Not sure if it's a result of the size or if there's something with motion. Was watching psych, and was hyper aware of every movement by the camera.
Make sure you remove any motion processing among other things. Can cause soap opera effectI hate when that happens on TVs. Makes everything look weird
I hate when that happens on TVs. Makes everything look weirdlol I like my TV just like I like my games, with cinematic framerates.
lol I like my TV just like I like my games, with cinematic framerates.Hellz ya
So sony hasn't officially delayed horizon yet right?because it hasn't been delayed and Bloomberg and Jason are full of shame.
I wonder why Sony are being so quiet
So sony hasn't officially delayed horizon yet right?My guess is they'll announce the release date next month.
I wonder why Sony are being so quiet
because it hasn't been delayed and Bloomberg and Jason are full of shame.It's a big video game. I don't tend to doubt Jason on obvious leaks.
Will this be able to push GoT towards 10 million?
Transferring ps4 ghost of Tsushima save game just made all the trophies pop for my ps5 version. Nice easy platinum to get again 8)i love that,.. i have the sound shapes plat 3 times because of that. xD
What happened to the TV talk? :'(Just enjoying the TV now.
On the X90J, I can't say a lot, I'm not a TV buff.Does YouTube not have 120hz vids?
The two big weaknesses are the reflection handling and the viewing angles. But neither of these issues are a problem in my living room.
I don't have any 120 Hz content to test yet.
Image quality is fantastic. I can't really complain about anything. 4K looks flawless, 1080p looks pretty close, 480 varies. Some SD scenes look fantastic.
You can occasionally see some weaknesses in the screen. There are 24 dimming zones. In rare instances you get some blooming. Primarily stuff like white text on a black screen. But it's rare.
Played God of War and it looks really fantastic.
Just enjoying the TV now.for the first time in like ever I've been logging into Netflix and feeling like I have nothing to watch.
Meanwhile my Plex is doing awesome. 8)How often does it get new content though?
How often does it get new content though?Whenever I feel like.
for the first time in like ever I've been logging into Netflix and feeling like I have nothing to watch.I've been feeling the same for a while now, with the occasional show dropping now and again
they aren't releasing as much content. much of it just isn't what I want (sexy beasts lol). ...and some things are just really hard to even start when it's obvious from just watching the trailer that Netflix is going to cancel the show.
I still have a backlog to watch but most nights I spend more time sifting through the list than watching something.
What did you do swordfish!?I'm so sorry!
lately I've been watching Disney plus. I'm watching a mix of the old and new DuckTales.They made some sit coms but they suck dog.
it's good. it's light. right now that's what I want. far too much of Netflix content is too serious and stressful. that can be good and interesting but it's Soo hard to relax watching Netflix content.
with friends, the office, parks and rec and a few others being such a big part of their steaming I can't for the life of me figure out why they aren't making any sit coms.
They made some sit coms but they suck dog.they had disjointed and they cancelled it. it was good.
The issue is there are some underrated sit comes that they could get for cheap that could fill that hole. They could also add more classics like fraser, malcom on the middle, Seinfeld, futurama, 30 rock, and according to Jim.
TV bug:Like it shows the volume changing on screen but the sound doesn't change?
I am currently having an issue with my X90J.
Changing the volume doesn't do anything unless I power down the TV.
:(
Like it shows the volume changing on screen but the sound doesn't change?Yep.
TV bug:Tried resetting it?
I am currently having an issue with my X90J.
Changing the volume doesn't do anything unless I power down the TV.
:(
because it hasn't been delayed and Bloomberg and Jason are full of shame.So...
So...so he's still a bag.
no reason other than OMG :o ;DRelevant thread lol
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no reason other than OMG :o ;DI watched The New Mutants yesterday. It was bad and her accent was horrible.
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Relevant thread lolGive me a sec I'll fix it.
(I know this isn't really on topic. But I bought the TV because I wanted something the PS5 could take advantage of. 4K, 120 Hz, VRR eventually).seriously dude,.. respect the thread topic.
Shift Up CEO, Hyung-Tae Kim celebrated the successful showing of Project Eve at the PlayStation showcase by purchasing a PS5 for each of his 260 staff. https://t.co/VVtp2aaRib pic.twitter.com/mQV32i37l5
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 13, 2021
How did he find so many ps5s?.Shift Up CEO, Hyung-Tae Kim celebrated the successful showing of Project Eve at the PlayStation showcase by purchasing a PS5 for each of his 260 staff. https://t.co/VVtp2aaRib pic.twitter.com/mQV32i37l5
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) September 13, 2021
How did he find so many ps5s?.When getting that many and being a dev, he might have gone through Sony.
Aside from the vertical trophy lists, HALLELUJAH! They got rid of the ugly ‘PlayStation Hits” label on games in your library. How tf did we get digitally stuck with Greatest Hits labels. pic.twitter.com/nPspioijZh
— Ryan Biniecki (@MysticRyan) September 15, 2021
Controller software updates suck. As far as I know there isn't a way to trigger them yourself. Once you say "wait 24 hours" you must wait 24 hours.Settings > Accessories > Controllers > Wireless Controller Device software
Xbox updates controllers without needing to plug them in but it's pretty slow.
Settings > Accessories > Controllers > Wireless Controller Device softwareNice!
It was added in an update a few months after launch.
PS5 updates are weird.
There's System Software Update, and then there's System Feature Update, with no real description of what the latter is for.
My disc drive sounds super nice installing deathloop. Wonder if an update fixed that.In the big update earlier this year
Also I wish the ps5 download screen was always there. I want to see its history like how it worked on every other system. In general the ps5 menu outside the home screen is a huge downgrade imo.I love the home screen. The game page is good, the media page is a huge upgrade.
Lastly, for those looking to upgrade their PS4 Standard Edition of Gran Turismo 7 to the Gran Turismo 7 PS5 Digital Standard Edition, there will be a $10 digital upgrade option at the time of release*.It's a little funny how different this bundle is from previous ones.
We could not be more excited to deliver Gran Turismo 7 to everyone on March 4, 2022.
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— ??? (@natsume_nago) October 21, 2021
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What drives you to get behind the wheel? Discover what automotive culture means in Gran Turismo 7, coming March 4 to PS4 and PS5: https://t.co/8OWUaGiSqk pic.twitter.com/3WVJ8bdBg0
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 21, 2021
So we are waiting on:I think:
Rest mode fix
8K, 1440p
VRR
External storage for PS5 games
Internal storage enabled
Folders
Full spec HDMI 2.0 (HDR)
Would be nice:
Quick Resume
i think i just want them to change the behavior of the "ps" buttonYes this so much. I still do a short press and expect to go back to Menu. Not massive, but weird they switched it around from how it was on ps4.
- short press to go back to the menu
- long press to go to the "quick select menu"
just like it was on ps4. i keep doing a quick press and getting taken to the useless "activities" thing when what i want to do is stop playing a game to go watch netflix or visa versa. i'm really getting annoyed by it now.
Yes this so much. I still do a short press and expect to go back to Menu. Not massive, but weird they switched it around from how it was on ps4.Xbox Series X does it the correct way and it always trips me up when I go back to PS5.
Getting a PS5 next week 8)What ganes are you getting?
What ganes are you getting?Mainly playing my dmc5 ps4 version and borderlands 3, ffviiRat first but I want Spidey, DS, Ratchet at least
Mainly playing my dmc5 ps4 version and borderlands 3, ffviiRat first but I want Spidey, DS, Ratchet at leastHaven't played it yet, but Returnal is a big favorite on Era.
Anything else you'd recommend?
Mainly playing my dmc5 ps4 version and borderlands 3, ffviiRat first but I want Spidey, DS, Ratchet at leastI enjoyed Deathloop. Would recommend if it's your type of game.
Anything else you'd recommend?
Haven't played it yet, but Returnal is a big favorite on Era.Ah of course, I'll get that eventually!
I enjoyed Deathloop. Would recommend if it's your type of game.I'm not sure it is. Did it get a demo?
Ah of course, I'll get that eventually!Don't think so.
I'm not sure it is. Did it get a demo?
Haptic feedback brings new sensations to the PS5 version of Gran Turismo 7. Get ready to race on March 4: https://t.co/8OWUaG1hyM pic.twitter.com/79iHzyIYYc
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 28, 2021
Next system should have:Not too far off. 8)
-PS4 backwards compatibility preferably.
-PSVR support
-PSVR2 support
-New PlayStation Move controllers with analog sticks on it.
-Lots of regular games
-Lots of VR games
-I'd like PS5 minis, where it's a lot more open to consumers to develop games, but they can have restrictions on stuff.
-Fully Formed OS day 1. It's just a little jarring to have a new system that doesn't have all the features of the old one. Like the new OS should have a media player, internet browser, folder support that works just as well as the current one.
-launch at 399$
-Support with PSVita. ha, not gonna happen.
Era: "Sony patents DLSS like tech!"The consoles got really unlucky with DLSS. In a few more years it could feel like the thing that ages them the most.
Me: "neat."
*clicks on article*
Me: "This isn't DLSS... You lied to me, Era!"
This is like the third time.
This is why the #Dualsense controller is the ????! The sense of immersion in games goes up exponentially when using a dualsense: resistance triggers, haptic feedback. It's the TRUE next gen experience! pic.twitter.com/OuRKbMhveN
— Salt King ???????????? (@Saltiest_Gaming) November 9, 2021
Stay up-to-date with PS Store offers:
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) November 10, 2021
?? Add games to your PS Store Wishlist
?? Enable push notifications for Wishlist Updates on PS App or PS5 console
?? Get notified when it's time to save pic.twitter.com/Qk72XXWF7K
Jesus christ God of War looks amazing on ps5 (and OLED). Also almost forgot how epic the music is.Get ready for the next one!
do we need to spoiler our views?Lol no. I just did it to separate my views from my post about being a year old. :P
I feel like I've used my ps5 more for videos than gaming. There are a lot of ps4 games I want to play on it, but I guess I've been saving them for the right time.Maquette was really good. Also a similar type of game to check out, which I think is better, is Superliminal
Watch dogs legion
Spiderman miles
Some deamon's souls
Astrobot
Maquette
Deathloop
Vampyre
Maquette was really good. Also a similar type of game to check out, which I think is better, is SuperliminalHaha I enjoyed but simultaneously disliked both.
Haha I enjoyed but simultaneously disliked both.
I thought the voice acting was great and the overall narrative was the best part of maquette. The core puzzle concept was really cool but a lot of the time when small it was boring walking everywhere. Maybe a faster run would have been nice. I enjoyed breaking "out of bounds" the first time since I did that early.Spoiler for Hidden:
Superliminal was kinda the inverse. It had better puzzles imo but I didn't care for the narrative.Spoiler for Hidden:
Me waiting for PSN black friday sales so I can buy Dark Souls 1 - 3 a third time like an idiot. ::)And beat Saber, Spidey mm
Also hoping for Ghost of Tsushima.
Some rumors that Sony will have PSVR2 at the TGA, with their own show early next year.I'm hyped for tga either way!
Don't think any of the rumors have much credibility, but it might be a good way to reach out.
why wouldn't they have a dev kit.PS4 devkits have a really cool functional look imo. They feel like something out of a science lab.
also thank God that design was not the design for consumers. sooo ugly.
PS4 devkits have a really cool functional look imo. They feel like something out of a science lab.I like the PS2 one, it just looks like a bigger PS2. :P
PS5 devkits look like what non gamers think a game system should look like. Also they're huge.At least they come with pizza slice holders. 8)
Me waiting for PSN black friday sales so I can buy Dark Souls 1 - 3 a third time like an idiot. ::)Well it finally happened. Dark Souls 3 on a good sale.
Also hoping for Ghost of Tsushima.
As it stands, I own ~85% of my library digitally.I'm ~100% digital on PC but I'm sticking with physical for consoles!
Which is crazy to me, as I've historically disliked digital.
I've ordered a cosmic red ps5 plate. Gonna be nice having something other than white or blackIs it that visible in your setup? I really only see the front of my ps5.
Is it that visible in your setup? I really only see the front of my ps5.Yep console is in clear view in both places i usually have it.
i've got a slight concern with my digital library wrt to "what if sony bans my account". i don't like that sony has that much power over me but also i don't do anything that ought to get me banned. for now the times are good,.. if somehow i manage to get banned i'm going to be fudgy livid. such is the gamble for not wanting to get my dog off the couch to flip from ratchet and clank to rocket league. tbh,.. that's worth the risk.Just gotta be an influencer or game dev. Will get unbanned if it's bad pr.
Yep console is in clear view in both places i usually have it.You move your ps5?
You move your ps5?heheh. yeah usually living room or my room.
Silly peasant, just buy another.
heheh. yeah usually living room or my room.so what?,.. this is your work out routine? you must be ripped lugging a ps5 around the house...
PlayStation x Discord
— Discord (@discord) January 31, 2022
We’re gradually rolling out the ability to link your PlayStation Network account to share what games you’re playing. Learn how to connect your account here: https://t.co/Jbgx7zWEVW pic.twitter.com/mZFxOwjlVS
Keep in HomeI kind of like this though.
You can now keep the games or apps you choose on your home screen by selecting "Keep in Home" with the (options) button.
You can keep a maximum of five games and apps on each home screen with this feature.
PS4, PS5 beta software (https://blog.playstation.com/2022/02/08/new-ps5-and-ps4-system-software-betas-roll-out-tomorrow/)1. there isn't a "bad" feature on that list imo.
Very meh to be honest.
I kind of like this though.
Published: key supplier of silicon wafers used for semiconductor chips said it's sold out through 2026. I mean, wow....https://t.co/kxvzbMOczY
— Takashi Mochizuki (@6d6f636869) February 10, 2022
PS4, PS5 beta software (https://blog.playstation.com/2022/02/08/new-ps5-and-ps4-system-software-betas-roll-out-tomorrow/)Undocumented feature, apparently brings Auto low latency mode. Basically changes the TV to game mode so that there's less latency
Very meh to be honest.
I kind of like this though.
Finished Astro and wow I just like it more and more. Too short tbh :P. Movement is so smooth and it looks and feels gorgeous.which one?
which one?PS5 game. The vr game was also great but not quite as polished. This one was just perfect, but too short.
regardless I agree. it's a fantastic game and I really look forward to whatever else asobi does.
PS5 game. The vr game was also great but not quite as polished. This one was just perfect, but too short.PS5 was too short but it was also free so it gets a pass from me. also I didn't love the overtly ps nostalgia factor with all the game references and artifacts. it distracted, imo, from the core game.
Oh, and one more thing - Shadow Warrior 3 will be a PlayStation Now title at launch.One of the first times a game has launched on PS Now.
Enter the Dragon's Nest with new Shadow Warrior 3 gameplay - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2022/02/22/enter-the-dragons-nest-with-new-shadow-warrior-3-gameplay/)interesting. not that shadow warrior is a huge title but that's a pretty strange development. wonder what has sony paying for this,.. the new ps++ service getting "leaked" early?
One of the first times a game has launched on PS Now.
We’re gradually rolling out the ability to share your PS5 game captures through PS App in more regions! Americas are first up, with more countries next month. Details: https://t.co/yskER3hn8t pic.twitter.com/8sfrm6PZZj
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) February 23, 2022
So is Sony just never going to support VRR on ps5?Later this year I am sure.
Jeff Grubb apparently talked about Project Spartacus. Posted by Kawngi on Era (http://"https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot25-aloy-brings-a-bow-to-a-giant-machine-fight.544040/page-324#post-82663213")Wait downloadable games? Isn't that what ps+ offers rn?
Says it's coming soon.Spoiler for Hidden:
Cheaper than I expected I think.
Article is up (https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/classic-games-will-reportedly-be-a-major-part-of-playstations-game-pass-rival/)
I just don't see the need for 3 tiers.Yeah a middle tier is a little goofy.
Just make PS+ as it is now. And PS+ premium/ultra that has the game collections, classics, cloud streaming, and all that.
Im not sure why muddy things up with a middle teir
Wait downloadable games? Isn't that what ps+ offers rn?I think the intention is a greatly expanded Instant Game Collection.
What makes the upcoming @PlayStation VR 2 the next step in an immersive gaming experience?@ijustine explains a few of the new features sure to separate the VR 2 from the rest of the pack. pic.twitter.com/LCdJxPt4Q4
— Sony (@Sony) March 5, 2022
PlayStation 5 fans who have been waiting for VRR should have their patience rewarded (relatively) soon.
— jez (@JezCorden) March 15, 2022
I kind of want Sony to just announce like the next 10 games.I'd prefer to only know their 2022 schedule for now. I'm tired of hearing about games 6 years before launch. I'm tired of promises made about "this holiday" followed by 1 year or longer delays announced just before release.
It's crazy how little they have announced right now.
GPU frame time improvements are up to 2.5x faster with foveated rendering and up to 3.6X faster with both rendering and eye tracking.
PSVR2 from Unity talk (https://www.androidcentral.com/gaming/virtual-reality/gdc-2022-provided-a-glimpse-into-the-future-of-ps-vr2-games)I've been preaching the benefits of eye tracking for years. Great to see them materializing.
Man, looking like it might be a VERY interesting week for PlayStation if even one of the three rumors I’ve heard is true.
— Greg Miller (@GameOverGreggy) March 27, 2022
As such, we’re gonna delay recording PS I Love You XOXO until Thursday.
???? pic.twitter.com/M5KnIRBo1v
Spartacus and gow seem like good options. No clue on the third. Maybe a reveal trailer for the game from Haven.Could very well be havens game is being announced. Maybe they will announce it will come to spartacus day 1 as well
I've heard nothing but I'll just throw out there the possibility of another big acquisition as:1. It wasn't a leak.
1. when Bungie was announced there were "leaks" of more to come
2. haven studios was a whole week ago so we're due for another soon....
for the record I know nothing.
"We should absolutely expect more," he concludes. "We are by no means done. With PlayStation, we have a long way to go.2. Maybe. :P
1. It wasn't a leak.yes he said that very generic statement exactly as he had done in the past...
It was from Jim Ryan himself:
2. Maybe. :P
They have been announcing one every other month, but it seems likely they are aiming to speed up.
yes he said that very generic statement exactly as he had done in the past...Pretty sure he hasn't.
Sony Interactive Entertainment filed a trademark for "Knack" on March 17 in Japan. Bandai Namco Entertainment filed a trademark for "Stacky Basket." Both were made public today.
— Gematsu (@gematsu) March 28, 2022
Knack: https://t.co/7VbxIEo2OA
Stacky Basket: https://t.co/ZMd3vOkvPy pic.twitter.com/Thg8i9naF3
reads tweet as it appears on my screen and thinks,.. "wtf is a tacky baske?!?"Knack on PS5 would be something!
looks closer,.. "wtf,.. stacky basket?!? tacky baske was a better name..."
...and dear god. if knack get's a third game someone needs to "will smith" sony's leadership..
i'm calling it now,.. if we don't hear anything from any of these 3 rumors by sony's fabled "random tuesday" then we get nothing this week.Jim Ryan: friday it is, just to screw with all of you.
Jim Ryan: friday it is, just to screw with all of you.Friday: "We are aware of the rumors circulating on the internet. We share in your excitement and hope to have more reveal about the future of playstation soon! When we are ready we will share with you the date on which these exciting developments can finally be shared with our fans." ~Jimbo
Man, looking like it might be a VERY interesting week for PlayStation if even one of the three rumors I’ve heard is true.
— Greg Miller (@GameOverGreggy) March 27, 2022
As such, we’re gonna delay recording PS I Love You XOXO until Thursday.
???? pic.twitter.com/M5KnIRBo1v
Could be a big week.
Here's a master post for the updates on the Greg stuff for everyone's sanity or at least for people trying to catch up (plus if OP feels like threadmarking it or pointing it out in the title feel free)
1. Greg gives up an update on the three rumors he's heard (2/3 are spoken about here, both being Spartacus reveal and PSVR2 Showcase, which turned out to be smoke and mirriors) (https://clips.twitch.tv/RelentlessIgnorantAnacondaRedCoat-GsZKnEJkKxdMosPy?tt_content=channel_name&tt_medium=embed)
2. Greg's third rumor the he heard was an acquisition from Sony being in the works (this makes it 3/3 rumors) (https://clips.twitch.tv/AnimatedHealthyShingleTebowing-XV9yDU7IJcouME7G?tt_content=channel_name&tt_medium=embed)
3. Jeff Grubb joins Kinda Games Daily, he confirms the also heard about a big acquisition in the works. Greg reconfirms that as well, including mentioning the heard this rumor from a pool of people. (https://clips.twitch.tv/FragileSoftWormDoggo-rLrlUqzpInOGcMl6?tt_content=channel_name&tt_medium=embed)(Side note, on Grubbsnax today, Grubb also said he heard about the PSVR2 Showcase rumor as well)
4. Jeff Grubb then goes into further details mentioning why it's so hard to track down Sony rumors (https://clips.twitch.tv/IronicAstutePandaShadyLulu-rCKkIB29xFqUO33O?tt_content=channel_name&tt_medium=embed)
MLB The Show 22 launches tomorrow.And we got GoW, Spiderman 2, and Wolverine announced. With GoW this year, SM2 2023 and wolverine with no date.
The last PlayStation Studios title with a release date.
And we got GoW, Spiderman 2, and Wolverine announced. With GoW this year, SM2 2023 and wolverine with no date.don't be silly...
We are due for some announcements sooner or later. I still expect we will get a show in around July or August
don't be silly...Please. Soonest wolverine will hit is 2027
.. that's playstation's entire line-up for the next three years.
Please. Soonest wolverine will hit is 2027plu-eease, if this was any other studio i'd agree. ...but this is insomniac. odds are their pitch to investors was a fully functional gameplay demo with 3 hours of content. they'll turn this around in 1.5 years tops. in fact, sony is just going to sit on this entirely completed game for 6 months just to not make their other studios feel embarrassed. heck,.. i'll bet insomniac will be ready to announce wolverine 2 early next year.
Lol.Nah...
Insomniac usually releases a game a year. They seem like they're going to miss this year though. I think most people are assuming 2024 for Wolverine.
Nah...What part?
What part?Whichever one makes me right 8)
Missing this year? ;D
Or wolverine for 2024?
What part?i go out swinging,..
Missing this year? ;D
Or wolverine for 2024?
I'm like 80% expecting them to launch a VR game this year.
Either that or I'm going to start expecting Wolverine late 2023. And Spiderman early 2023.
AA and below is where it's at. I wish Sony published smaller games to fill the void.Firesprite feels like a good step in the right direction.
PC players can now update their DualSense wireless controller with the latest firmware from Windows 11 and select Windows 10 devices, without connecting to a PS5. Details: https://t.co/PF5E3VnoXM pic.twitter.com/PF2ASo8Fw6
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) April 20, 2022
In a new conference, TCL Technology have said that a new Xbox Series S/X and PS5 Pro are coming in 2023/2024.
— Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_) May 25, 2022
Via https://t.co/FI7Jgq0egY pic.twitter.com/7v2sNVNVm4
To be honest,.. I'm going to be a bit mad if this is true.In a new conference, TCL Technology have said that a new Xbox Series S/X and PS5 Pro are coming in 2023/2024.
— Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_) May 25, 2022
Via https://t.co/FI7Jgq0egY pic.twitter.com/7v2sNVNVm4
To be honest,.. I'm going to be a bit mad if this is true.Why? For those clamoring for gross gen to be over, this is good news. Bse PS5s power will he harnessed in a way to extract everything out of it. It won't waste it on higher resolutions or higher framtates.
Why? For those clamoring for gross gen to be over, this is good news. Bse PS5s power will he harnessed in a way to extract everything out of it. It won't waste it on higher resolutions or higher framtates.I imagine the issue is that by the time he gets a PS5, it will be outdated.
The devs would develop games based on the Pros power and downscale res/framerate on base PS5. It would be pushed to its limits.
PS5 is going to get a 6nm refresh soon. Better yields and could use even less cooling. All of those gains will go into improving manufacturing and saving costs. Maybe a hardware redesign is part of that. But I don't think there's any chance of a Pro any time soon.
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) May 25, 2022
I imagine the issue is that by the time he gets a PS5, it will be outdated.This makes it sound like its a PS5 slim, which we all know, just looking at the PS5. Is coming sooner or later.PS5 is going to get a 6nm refresh soon. Better yields and could use even less cooling. All of those gains will go into improving manufacturing and saving costs. Maybe a hardware redesign is part of that. But I don't think there's any chance of a Pro any time soon.
— Jeff Grubb (@JeffGrubb) May 25, 2022
TCL wants to sell its high end TVs
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) May 26, 2022
It doesn't have insight into Sony and Microsoft's plans, even if a mid-gen refresh is likely. https://t.co/k8p4FEmH3A
I can't tell if that's a good way to demo vrr or a bad way.
Is there a good way to transfer between 2 external HDDs?As far as I know you can't. I wish multiple externals would show up in storage and could move between them
I bought an 8 TB drive.I thought that when I bought a 3tb years ago. Filled up quick so now I manage my data better.
Now I will hopefully never have to upgrade again.
I thought that when I bought a 3tb years ago. Filled up quick so now I manage my data better.It's taken me over 2 years to fill up 2TB.
It's taken me over 2 years to fill up 2TB.Wait this isn't the pc thread.
8TB should last at least 6 years.
Wait this isn't the pc thread.Ironically, I have like 5x more games on PC, yet I play 10x more on PS. :-P
I just redownload games. Disc installs are slow but online ones only take a few minutes.
I went ahead and upgraded to premium ps plus. It was only $31 for the rest of my sub to upgrade so why not. I'll probably just keep it unless I feel it's not worth it when my renewal comesplease report back in a while with some impressions on if it is worth it or not.
NEW: Sony has dated & confirmed its #GranTurismo movie. The film will arrive in theaters on 8/11/23 & it will be directed by Neill Blomkamp (DISTRICT 9). It is based on a true story of a teenage Gran Turismo player whose gaming skills helped them become a real race car driver pic.twitter.com/zgteAiIBsE
— Erik Davis (@ErikDavis) June 14, 2022
Sony is working on an official new PlayStation 5 "Pro" controller and it has some awesome features.
— Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_) June 15, 2022
My report via @TryHardGuides https://t.co/Oc5yD2qWf0
Sony is set to reveal 3 new headsets and 2 new gaming monitors next week.
— Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_) June 20, 2022
My report via @XputerE https://t.co/3uNBWgUB6v
According to my sources, one of these monitors will be for 4K gaming at 144Hz, whereas the other will be full HD gaming at 240Hz. Both devices were described as being "perfect for PS5" and have received VRR (HDMI/G-Sync) support and feature low latency (1ms GtG). Sony has also kept HDR in mind (DisplayHDR600 in 4K/144Hz, DisplayHDR400 in FullHD/240Hz) for both monitors.Why 4K144?
It's also believed that both of these monitors will come with "gaming assist features", which include the monitors displaying the number of FPS, game time, a viewfinder, improve brightness in dark locations (Black Equalizer), and refining brightness and contrast - to better see enemies with these features being turned off/on depending on the user's desires.
Why not 4k144?Sony is set to reveal 3 new headsets and 2 new gaming monitors next week.
— Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_) June 20, 2022
My report via @XputerE https://t.co/3uNBWgUB6v
This probably doesn't count as PS5 related...
Why 4K144?
Why not 4k144?Just not something that the PS5 could really handle. :P
Just not something that the PS5 could really handle. :Pupscaling + VRR?
I mean it could, just not particularly well.
PS VR 2 is going to absolutely kill it
— Brad Lynch (@SadlyItsBradley) June 27, 2022
Nothing really to leak. But just hear genuine excitement from devs about it
— Brad Lynch (@SadlyItsBradley) June 27, 2022
Guess what’s coming to PSVR2? (Right answers only) pic.twitter.com/cYBAEMcgGZ
— Bit Planet Games (@BitPlanetGames) June 29, 2022
Seems like it. Oops.Guess what’s coming to PSVR2? (Right answers only) pic.twitter.com/cYBAEMcgGZ
— Bit Planet Games (@BitPlanetGames) June 29, 2022
Had a thought, is this the first time a non render PSVR2 has been posted?
Seems like it. Oops.Seems someone got in trouble...
my coop buddy just upgraded to premium.I think there is a cap on the upgrade price.
not sure how but he was able to upgrade to premium for only $150 when he has 5 years left on his ps+. it would cost me $92 for a meager 1.5 years. does sony have a bug in their system because he should have been charged around $300.
I think there is a cap on the upgrade price.so if i quickly extend my ps+ sub i could get a cheaper upgrade price?
There was some backlash when people saw you had to pay to upgrade the entire x years you had subscribed.
But when it rolled out in the US, I saw people posting that there was a cap on the pricing. Which I'm not sure if that was intentional.
so if i quickly extend my ps+ sub i could get a cheaper upgrade price?Are you still on the base tier?
the upgrade feels a lot more "worth it" at half the price...
:ONot yet played. Have them all downloaded and ready to go. Playing Returnal right now. Might play some jak tonight
Thoughts?
Are you still on the base tier?yep. i wanted to wait at least until ~black friday to make any decision. i want to see how many games get added and more importantly how many games leave. gamepass games leave quickly and it takes me months to finish a big AAA game typically. i have no use for a game services that pulls the games i'm pulling mid play though.
The premium cap was $150, the extra cap was $100, regardless of how long you have.
I'm a little hesitant to suggest it, because they might change how it works. But people are still reporting that there is a cap in place.
Not sure how I feel about returnal. This design is getting on my fudgy nerves. You can't get back to a boss without fighting like 50 enemies again. At least in something like the Souls games you can pretty much bypass them all to rush back to a boss but there is multiple areas that force you to fight with an area lockdownReminds me of Hades. Rougelites are not at all my thing but it was still good enough to pull me to the end.
Yep this is fudgy annoying. I've died 10 times just trying to get back to the boss fight. I'm straight over this right now
Just got to the door to the boss and area goes in lockdown and have to fight like a mini boss. So stupid and then die and go right back to the start of the loop
But I'm also really intrigued by the story it's displaying but the procedural nature of the rooms and enemies is so off putting
And there is no way to heal in the boss fight. What in the actual fudge. You have to reduce its health 3 times to finish it. Duuuuumb as shame. This is terribly unfun
Reminds me of Hades. Rougelites are not at all my thing but it was still good enough to pull me to the end.Yeah I mostly despise these types of games. But since I got it by upgrading my ps plus I figured I'd try it. It's getting way too repetitive now. First couple hours were great but now I'm likely not gonna play anymore.
Assassin's Creed Unity | PS4PlayStation Extra looks pretty solid.
Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag | PS4
Assassin's Creed Rogue Remastered | PS4
Assassin's Creed Freedom Cry | PS4
Assassin's Creed: The Ezio Collection | PS4
Final Fantasy VII Remake | PS4
Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade | PS5
Saints Row IV: Re-Elected | PS4
Saints Row Gat out of Hell | PS4
Spirit of the North: Enhanced Edition | PS5
Ice Age: Scrat's Nutty Adventure | PS4
Jumanji The Video Game | PS4
Marvel's Avengers | PS4, PS5
Paw Patrol on a Roll! | PS4
ReadySet Heroes | PS4
Stray | PS4, PS5
No Heroes Allowed! (PSP)
LocoRoco Midnight Carnival (PSP)
PlayStation Plus Game Catalog lineup for July: Stray, Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade, Marvel's Avengers - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2022/07/13/playstation-plus-game-catalog-lineup-for-july-stray-final-fantasy-vii-remake-intergrade-marvels-avengers/)lol, i took too long writing my post. xD
PlayStation Extra looks pretty solid.
PlayStation Premium doesn't really feel worth it.
Oh, yes.
— cory barlog (@corybarlog) July 12, 2022
It’s fuckin’ canon now.
??????
What about normal ps plus?Normal PS+ gets announced on the Wednesday before the month, I believe. They announced Crash 4, Arcadegeddon, Man of Medan.
What about normal ps plus?sony's on a schedule.
Monday: Haven deal closingGuess it will be God of War news.
Wednesday: PS+ Extra/Premium games
Thursday: PlayStation Stars
Sony frequently likes announcing several things over a weeks period.
Curious if they have anything for Friday.
Normal PS+ gets announced on the Wednesday before the month, I believe. They announced Crash 4, Arcadegeddon, Man of Medan.Oh ofc, thanks!
PS+ Extra and Premium get announced halfway through the month.
Meet Murtaugh, the main inspiration behind Stray’s pawed protagonist.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) July 15, 2022
Dev details on bringing the game’s feline hero to life: https://t.co/sgvdUU4efl pic.twitter.com/qthc2clYMb
Starting today, PS5 beta testers can try out some new system software features, including:
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) July 28, 2022
???? 1440p HDMI video output
???? Gamelists
???? New PS5 UX enhancements and social features
More details and a full list of features at PS Blog: https://t.co/QvnfLu11Uw pic.twitter.com/MF2aN0EefG
Sony loves clustering news.as far as news go a beta isn't much.
Tuesday: PSVR2
Wednesday: PS+
Thursday: PS5 beta
I'm assuming no news tomorrow, just their Q1 results.
And no news next week.
Introducing Backbone One - PlayStation Edition, an officially licensed mobile controller for iPhone users.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) July 28, 2022
Full details: https://t.co/4TR6NVzAFU pic.twitter.com/4M39fUxBGz
wow. soo...I guess this is more of a licensed product though. Seems like it'll be pricey.
1. vita is definitely dead now. clearly sony's strategy is to lean into mobile games and remote play
2. is realize that iphone is the market leader and very standard but is there any reason i couldn't use this on my android phone or ipad? i guess with ipad maybe the controller is not big enough. android is what i have though and it would be a shame (to me) to not have any support for android.
currently i just pack my controller with my ipad when i'm on vacation. works well enough syching the controller via blue tooth but this looks much easier and faster to get up and running.
Every time I bring up PlayStation VR2 to a developer or publisher, a huge smile appears on their face. Everyone seems to love it.
— Nathie (@NathieVR) August 31, 2022
The console, currently named the D chassis PlayStation 5, will have almost identical hardware to the existing consoles already on the market.
The most surprising new feature of the new this new PS5 though, is that the console will have a detachable disk drive. The detachable disc drive will be connected to the PlayStation 5 using an extra USB-C port on the back of the console.
It's understood that this new PlayStation 5 console will be sold on its own, or, in a bundle with the detachable disc drive. It's also understood that the disc drives can also be purchased separately, so, if it gets busted, there's no need to buy an entirely new console.
Sources have implied that although the new detachable disc drive is portable, it will not ruin the aesthetics of the console and will attach to it without looking external, presumably meaning the new PlayStation 5 will look similar to the existing model.
Looking at that vid, they really need more games.
How big would it be for PSVR if destiny became VR compatible or they releases some VR content?It's not something I've ever thought about.
(https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-21-2022/abR08C.gif)reminds me of this.
Stole this from Era's Modiz (https://www.resetera.com/threads/feel-a-new-real-trailer-psvr2.634637/page-4#post-93665483)
Is this supposed to be reminiscent of a game?
I'm back to feeling like Meta is spending an insane amount on R&D and not getting that much in return.Probably doesn't help that Sony has a clear vision while Meta isn't working towards anything specific.
Probably doesn't help that Sony has a clear vision while Meta isn't working towards anything specific.I think the difference between the two is that meta thinks VR and the meta verse will expand quickly like how social media did. Where virtually everybody started using it and relatively quick
The DualSense Edge wireless controller will be available for a recommended retail price (RRP) of $199.99 USD/¥29,980 (including tax)/€239.99/£209.99. In addition, the replaceable stick modules will be available globally on January 26 for a recommended retail price (RRP) of $19.99 USD/¥2,680 (including tax)/€24.99/£19.99.
PlayStation VR2 launches February 22, 2023, with pre-orders starting November 15.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) November 2, 2022
Details at PlayStation Blog: https://t.co/K5h5YjRlxj pic.twitter.com/e97fVvHvZx
PlayStation VR2
$549.99 / €599.99 / £529.99 / ¥74,980 recommended retail price (including tax for GBP, EUR, and JPY)
Includes PS VR2 headset, PS VR2 Sense controllers and stereo headphones
PlayStation VR2 Horizon Call of the Mountain bundle
$599.99 / €649.99 / £569.99 / ¥79,980 recommended retail price (including tax for GBP, EUR, and JPY)
Includes PlayStation Store voucher code for Horizon Call of the Mountain, PS VR2 headset, PS VR2 Sense controllers, and stereo headphones
The Dark Pictures: Switchback VR | Developer: Supermassive Games
Cities VR - Enhanced Edition | Developer: Fast Travel Games
Crossfire: Sierra Squad | Developer: Smilegate
The Light Brigade | Developer: Funktronic Labs
Cosmonious High | Developer: Owlchemy Labs
Hello Neighbor: Search and Rescue | Developer: tinyBuild Games
Jurassic World Aftermath Collection | Developer: Coatsink
Pistol Whip VR
Zenith: The Last City | Developer: Ramen VR
After The Fall | Developer: Vertigo Games
Tentacular | Developer: Firepunchd Games UG
The Dark Pictures: Switchback VR | Developer: Supermassive Games
Don't blink - Immerse yourself in this fast-paced roller coaster action-horror-shooter where every move you make, and everything you see, could mean the difference between life and death. Experience the thrill of the most nightmarish VR roller coaster action-shooter, enhanced by the innovative features of PlayStation VR2 and set inside the sinister world of The Dark Pictures Anthology.
Switchback VR will take players for a multi-sensory ride on where they'll need to survive the terrifying Ghost Ship and its distorted apparitions, confront hideous demonic incarnations of persecuted 'witches' in 17th-century New England and then fight for your life against other-worldly vampires trapped beneath the desert. Finally, escape the horrifying World's Fair Hotel with a sadistic serial killer out for blood and discover how your story connects these worlds on this sinister rollercoaster from hell.
Endure every bump, twist, turn and drop as your cart speeds along the tracks with haptic feedback bringing that roller-coaster feeling to life. Adaptive triggers make each weapon feel unique as you unload on terrifying enemies that emerge from the shadows. Avoid falling beams, overturned buses and hanging witches. Headset feedback ensures that you'll feel it if you don't! With the PS VR2 headset eye tracking, we made enemies that only move when you blink, and hear demons whisper in your ear with the PS5's 3D Audio. It's your own personal nightmare where each track has multiple terrifying paths. No two runs will be the same, but each will test your reactions in this terrifying VR horryahor experience.
The price is a bit steeper than I expected.Same, i expected i would preoreder but now i'm thinking no. I'm rich so $550 doesn't really bother me but with no BC and only those 11 games go play as of right now…
But I'm more worried about the games.
Same, i expected i would preoreder but now i'm thinking no. I'm rich so $550 doesn't really bother me but with no BC and only those 11 games go play as of right now…They have to have more ports by launch, right?
Not sure i want to play any of them. Where's astro bot?
They have to have more ports by launch, right?i mean,.. probably. i'm not pre-ordering on probably. until i see games i want to play i'm not buying. no BC. no astro. no alyx. no video playback. ...no buy.
Really poor launch if it's just this. Maybe worse than psvr1's launch.
just preordered the horizon PSVR2 bundle. Still not sure i'll keep it but at least i have it if I do want it.Good idea. Would be shocked if it's not hard to find for at least a few weeks.
Native PS5/PSVR2 versions of Moss, Moss II have appeared on the PlayStation store.just because you posted i did a search
Not sure if there's an upgrade path.
Confront Lady D in immersive PS VR2 when Resident Evil Village releases VR Mode for the full game with free DLC on February 22, 2023.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) December 15, 2022
Full details: https://t.co/6Z3FASEjQ1 pic.twitter.com/Gfzfxi3Lby
Fantavision 202X, plus more Japanese-developed highlights revealed for PS VR2, including multiplayer sword-fighting, mystical team-ups, and a murder mystery.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) December 14, 2022
Full details: https://t.co/Jqe9eN6cGA pic.twitter.com/qwCM6PR91Q
That's such a bad launch. :'(It's 7 additional. Not 7 total.
It's 7 additional. Not 7 total.I understand it's 7 more, but PSVR1 had 30 games available at launch. PSVR2 still has 2 months to get a few more ports, but it should blow PSVR1's launch out of the water. VR games are far more established at this point.
Think this is the confirmed lineup so far.
After The Fall
Altair Breaker
Among Us VR
Cities VR - Enhanced Edition
Cosmonious High
Demeo
Dyschronia: Chronos Alternate
Fantavision 202X
Hello Neighbor: Search and Rescue
Horizon Call of the Mountain
Kizuna AI - Touch the Beat!
Moss 1
Moss 2
Pistol Whip
Resident Evil Village
Tentacular
The Dark Pictures: Switchback
The Light Brigade
The Tale of Onogoro
Star Wars: Tales from the Galaxy's Edge
X8
Zenith: The Last City
Not great though, needs another big game.
I understand it's 7 more, but PSVR1 had 30 games available at launch. PSVR2 still has 2 months to get a few more ports, but it should blow PSVR1's launch out of the water. VR games are far more established at this point.Just making sure.
PlayStation VR: Launch Lineup and Beyond - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/2016/10/05/playstation-vr-launch-lineup-and-beyond/)
Kayak VR: Mirage, a VR kayaking game that requires a PS VR2 headset (as in, there's no non-VR version) for some reason launched today via PlayStation Store, despite PS VR2 not launching until Feb. 22, 2023.
— Gematsu (@gematsu) December 20, 2022
PS Store: https://t.co/K3mA2Blcc8
Gematsu: https://t.co/1E5jCKRTwI pic.twitter.com/PGpIIY4fEE
The Edge is the same size, the same shape, and has the same buttons and joysticks as far as my fingers can tell. Only now, you get two kinds of rear paddles, adjustable hair triggers, swappable stick tops (including the classic PlayStation domes), the ability to remap almost every button on the controller and adjust joystick sensitivity curves, new dedicated function keys to hot-switch profiles, and -- get this -- toolless quick-swap stick modules so you can replace a broken joystick in 30 seconds flat.Battery operating length is "moderately shorter" than DualSense. Not great.
I spent two hours at PlayStation's US headquarters trying all of the above, and unless there are hidden flaws or the battery runs out mid-session, I'm pretty sure this will be the best PS5 controller you can buy for $200.
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II
The function buttons stood out when hopping into a Modern Warfare II match. I immediately realized I had the controller profile still set up for God of War Ragnarök, but thanks to the on-controller trigger switches I quickly adjusted them to a shorter length for snappier aiming and shooting.
Sounds like it'll have a kinda poor launch. Or maybe enough people have enough money to just want whatever's considered premium.That's the spirit! ;D
I have a hard time believing that Horizon Call of the Mountain is the only first party PSVR2 game for launch.Why would they wait so long to announce it? When was playroom announced?
Not that I'm expecting any big games, but with the PS5 and PSVR1 they made an effort to include some smaller free title.
If nothing else, I'm expecting something along the lines of The Playroom/Astro's Playroom to be announced yet. Maybe that's too hopeful.
Why would they wait so long to announce it?I've stopped trying to guess why Sony does anything lately.
When was playroom announced?I think several months prior.
I've stopped trying to guess why Sony does anything lately.Haha words that I should live by.
Asked about the PSVR2's software lineup, Nishino says Sony hasn't announced all of its VR games yet.(Sony's SVP of Platform Experience Hideaki Nishino)
https://mixed-news.com/en/playstation-vr-sony-researches-wireless-virtual-reality/ (https://mixed-news.com/en/playstation-vr-sony-researches-wireless-virtual-reality/)Probably just means they have more VR games later in the year :'(
(Sony's SVP of Platform Experience Hideaki Nishino)
Worth noting that this is 30 games for launch window. God knows what period that isEra has a list of 33 games for launch day.
Worth noting that this is 30 games for launch window. God knows what period that ishistorically "six months"-ish. but based on the era thread most of these 30 appear to be confirmed for day-1.
Legend will probably disagree.It's crazy imo because PSVR1 released within VR's first commercial year yet still had 28 launch games. Back then it was the wild west with everything being novel, yet they still launched with 28 games.
But I think GT7, Resident Evil Village, Horizon CotM is an okay launch line up.
What I'd like to see from here is post launch support. Give me action adventure, give me RPG, give me Astrobot rescue mission 2.
Also on a weird note, I kind of got the vibe that Sony group is more excited about VR than SIE. Felt like they spent a few minutes hyping up VR related stuff, only for Jim Ryan to spend like a minute on VR and then start talking about accessibility controllers.
It's crazy imo because PSVR1 released within VR's first commercial year yet still had 28 launch games. Back then it was the wild west with everything being novel, yet they still launched with 28 games.I feel like the number of games doesn't tend to change that much for new launches.
I really expected psvr2 to blow it out of the water. How the heck are big titles like Beat Saber not there at launch?
I feel like the number of games doesn't tend to change that much for new launches.I think it'll be easiest to just wait till February and see how it feels. With the lack of BC, I feel like PSVR2 is not ready to be a replacement for PSVR1. People will be very frustrated having to go back to old hardware for games that have not been ported.
Like the console launches tend to have 15-30 games regardless of how popular the console ends up being. That's the range that PlayStation 2-5 were all within.
I think the bigger thing that changes is the quality of the titles.
PSVR1 had a lot of novelty. Some of the games were 1 hour experiences that probably were in development for several months.
PSVR2 has more AA, "AAA"* titles that have been in development for years.
*Not really AAA by some standards, but others might very well consider something like Resident Evil to be AAA*
resident evil is pretty AAA even by non-VR standards. it's not GTA AAA but you can say only the most expensive game ever is AAA or you'll only have 1 industry wide.Yeah definitely a great launch game.
like to see! That would be a VR compositor replacement, and the sensor / display / GPU timings would be really tight, so a third party developer could not do it, but it would be a worthy task for Sony.
— John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack) January 26, 2023
I don't really understand why only Sony could pull this off. Couldn't oculus do the same thing if they prioritized it?like to see! That would be a VR compositor replacement, and the sensor / display / GPU timings would be really tight, so a third party developer could not do it, but it would be a worthy task for Sony.
— John Carmack (@ID_AA_Carmack) January 26, 2023
I don't really understand why only Sony could pull this off. Couldn't oculus do the same thing if they prioritized it?I feel like he's saying other devs couldn't do it for PSVR2.
I feel like he's saying other devs couldn't do it for PSVR2.yeah, that was my take too. not that sony is the only one in the world that could do this,.. just that it would have to be done by whomever is making the APIs for accessing the hardware and in the case of PSVR it would be sony.
I feel like he's saying other devs couldn't do it for PSVR2.Yeah but it's not unique to psvr2. Could be said about most headsets.
Yeah but it's not unique to psvr2. Could be said about most headsets.Although, with a lot of headsets being standalone now, Sony might have an advantage with lower latency.
Finding a PS5 should become easier starting this year. Thanks for your patience ????
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) January 30, 2023
New “Live From PS5” spot celebrates the moment: https://t.co/bwzIfN4FKf pic.twitter.com/ydouuWG6BL
if i'm looking at the right thing.. it's the ghost from destiny.Finding a PS5 should become easier starting this year. Thanks for your patience ????
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) January 30, 2023
New “Live From PS5” spot celebrates the moment: https://t.co/bwzIfN4FKf pic.twitter.com/ydouuWG6BL
What game is at 0:45 with the small flying robot?
Is that supposed to be something from horizon?
And what about 0:47 with the B.I.P suit?
anyone buying the "uncharted 5" speculation? the girl exploring a cave finding a treasure? i mean, it certainly looks like uncharted and since the actor is a girl instead of a boy i guess it makes sense this could be an easter egg for a future release.There's a closeup of her face and it doesn't really look like Elena or their daughter.
i just dunno though. everything else is already on ps5. ...and uncharted lost legacy features girls. it's not quite the right sillouette but i also just don't really buy that this would be teasing uncharted 5.
and i didn't know B.I.P. but a google search is telling me it is calisto protocolThanks, was pretty sure that's what it was.
anyone buying the "uncharted 5" speculation? the girl exploring a cave finding a treasure? i mean, it certainly looks like uncharted and since the actor is a girl instead of a boy i guess it makes sense this could be an easter egg for a future release.I would say the ad has a lot of current and future PS5 games (FFXVI, Spider-man 2).
i just dunno though. everything else is already on ps5. ...and uncharted lost legacy features girls. it's not quite the right sillouette but i also just don't really buy that this would be teasing uncharted 5.
PS VR2 is already looking jam-packed with some fantastic games. Which ones are you most excited about? #PSVR2 #VR pic.twitter.com/1S3Z3sR1V7
— First Contact Entertainment | Firewall Ultra PSVR2 (@firstcontactent) January 30, 2023
Sony Slashes PlayStation VR2 Headset Output After Pre-Orders Disappoint https://t.co/hyaBBxza0o
— Wario64 (@Wario64) January 31, 2023
Sony halves forecast for this quarter from 2 million to 1 million units. Plans to ship around 1.5 million units between this April and March next year. pic.twitter.com/NRvAlKdkW9
I'm thinking I'll probably just cancel my preorder. I'd probably play it quite a bit at first but I have such a backlog of normal games across every console that it will just be stuffed in my closet for a year with no playtimeand this is why ms acquiring CoD is a big deal. maintaining an ecosystem is difficult and once the cracks emerge it's a downward spiral. with no game there will be no players which will lead to no games...
Likely a mix of price and games available for it. Not to mention I feel like the VR hype from 2-3 years ago has waned so muchI would also throw out a lack of marketing and the fact that you can only buy it from PlayStation Direct.
as a guy that got psvr 1Quite a few of them do have cross buy.
- $600 is a lot
- it's a lot of the same games
- except it's not even BC so I have to rebuy many of them
- the absolute best game (astro) is still not announced in any capacity
- no longer able to play media
that's kind of hard to swallow. it looks like better tech for sure but I need to see something announced. and by something I mean by astro bot 1 and 2 and media playback. otherwise it's kind of a downgrade.
I would also throw out a lack of marketing and the fact that you can only buy it from PlayStation Direct.i said many not all. i'd have to rebuy moss. Rez and tetris have upgrade fees.
Quite a few of them do have cross buy.
Sony has denied it is cutting PSVR 2 production numbers, following a report from Bloomberg https://t.co/rqVQX34bMw
— GamesIndustry (@GIBiz) January 31, 2023
Ohhh interesting. The VR craze is still on the down though.Sony has denied it is cutting PSVR 2 production numbers, following a report from Bloomberg https://t.co/rqVQX34bMw
— GamesIndustry (@GIBiz) January 31, 2023
So once again this author is refuted by Sony.Sony has denied it is cutting PSVR 2 production numbers, following a report from Bloomberg https://t.co/rqVQX34bMw
— GamesIndustry (@GIBiz) January 31, 2023
So once again this author is refuted by Sony.They also got refuted by Nintendo in the past.
How do they still have a job at Bloomberg? Or does Sony keep using technicalities to refute?
i really gotta wonder how ps5 is doing right now. i know sony just said that december was their best month ever but that was on tail end of 2 years of piss poor availiblity. how are they doing now that availability isn't bad? are they really selling a ton still or are they like every other player in the gaming space and struggling with a downturn?Yeah at least to me it's really strange to be over two years into this gen and have a commercial like this.
to me these commercials reek of needing to try and boost demand...
Yeah at least to me it's really strange to be over two years into this gen and have a commercial like this.exactly. like it's a really strange commercial to be informing people of the basic launch features of a new console 2 years in. it just doesn't smell right.
exactly. like it's a really strange commercial to be informing people of the basic launch features of a new console 2 years in. it just doesn't smell right.Well it makes sense to promote your console with the new wave of availability. Maybe the sales are steady but they want to sell more
i'm not saying ps5 sales have tanked to 0 but that's not the same as to say "disappointing".
Apparently doesn't let you use the VR controllers in VR mode? Have to use the DualSense.will watch in a minute here but...
Surprising, and a tiny bit disappointing. But it does sound overall amazing.
Makes the lack of PSVR1 support a little more baffling.
will watch in a minute here but...Not disagreeing.
did you really want to use the VR controllers? a wheel would be best but if you want to go for motion controlls i would think the dualsense would be better anyways since it's tethered together. the VR controllers being separate would make that turning an unreliable and poor experience.
that psvr2 blog post yesterday clearly stated "over 100 games in development". at this rate psvr2's entire library will launch in it's first 3 months on the market.Era's thread has 123 games in development, and 53 of them come out in the first month. So maybe not far off. :-[
Not disagreeing.Actually what would probably be the best thing is having DualSense support + hand tracking support.
It's just a little surprising.
Supposedly reviewers have gotten game keys for games that aren't announced yet.playstation needs to hire a "spencer". they really need a mouth piece that is good at positioning on social and evaluating the optics of their communication to customers. they do soo good at most everything else but how they communicate those great things are at best unaware but often times self-deprecating.
Why is PSVR2's rollout so goofy?
C-Smash VRS reimagines a classic Sega futuristic sports puzzler for #PSVR2.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) February 13, 2023
First details on gameplay, its all-star dev team, and the upcoming demo: https://t.co/cqg3w6vZlb pic.twitter.com/EQLbgUTtUf
I like that you can store it in the box.
I like that you can store it in the box.yeah,. I do that with my PS5 too
Meet the elite contractors of Firewall Ultra — featuring returning favorites from Firewall Zero Hour and new character: Havoc.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) February 15, 2023
Launches on #PSVR2 later this year. Learn more: https://t.co/RyCngBtNHT pic.twitter.com/tirfI5Ls4e
A step-by-step guide to connecting PS VR2 to your PS5:
— PlayStation UK (@PlayStationUK) February 17, 2023
1. Plug it in
2. See Step 1 pic.twitter.com/88FUHquoCA
It's funny how much they are marketing PSVR2 as plug and play. Did PSVR1's break out box really do that much damage to the brand?A step-by-step guide to connecting PS VR2 to your PS5:
— PlayStation UK (@PlayStationUK) February 17, 2023
1. Plug it in
2. See Step 1 pic.twitter.com/88FUHquoCA
Love seeing all the excitement around #PSVR2. You’ll be blown away by the visual fidelity and new eye tracking tech. Out in just 4 days
— Hermen Hulst (@hermenhulst) February 18, 2023
With the PS VR2 see-through view, you can grab your controllers, check your surroundings, and avoid any wandering pets without taking your headset off ???????? pic.twitter.com/FU6ncvHHVr
— PlayStation UK (@PlayStationUK) February 18, 2023
I wish it was color. Not like it actually matters, but black and white is a lame limitation.With the PS VR2 see-through view, you can grab your controllers, check your surroundings, and avoid any wandering pets without taking your headset off ???????? pic.twitter.com/FU6ncvHHVr
— PlayStation UK (@PlayStationUK) February 18, 2023
I wish it was color. Not like it actually matters, but black and white is a lame limitation.My feeling too.
My feeling too.Wonder if a mid gen refresh could add color, or if we're stuck this way till PSVR3. Most AR games suck but so few devs are going to even try if the hardware isn't there.
Quest 2 has the same limitation. PSVR2 is much higher quality though.
Not the best tv spot lol
It's terrible, but I'm tempted to buy Horizon CotM, even though I have no idea when I'll get PSVR2. Just feel like I need to support these kinds of games.I think you already support them enough by hyping others up.
OK, GT7 in VR is unbelievable. One small detail that literally caught my eye - the HDR glare of headlights in your mirrors during night races. It's bright to the point where it closely resembles reality in a similar situation. I've never seen anything quite like this in a game.
— John Linneman (@dark1x) February 21, 2023
Creed: Rise to Glory (https://blog.playstation.com/2023/02/21/creed-rise-to-glory--championship-edition-steps-into-the-ring-on-ps-vr2-april-4/) coming to PSVR2 on April 4th.read that and expected it to be some jesus simulator....
These short PSVR2 announcements are so weird to me. It's like they forgot to announce them.
"Oh yeah we have this coming out next month. You probably wanted to know that."
read that and expected it to be some jesus simulator....If Jesus was a boxer, you could certainly view it as a Jesus simulator.
So PSVR2 launch lineup went from barebones to huge? 40 games for launch window seems like a lotYeah it's gotten a lot better.
State of Play before the end of February confirmed.
— Grubb (@JeffGrubb) February 21, 2023
Gonna have:
- 5 new PSVR2 games from partners (so not Astro?!)
- A lot about Suicide Squad
- "new looks at anticipated games from partners"
Major PlayStation Showcase before E3 still in the works. https://t.co/VBmjGgNUcV pic.twitter.com/80JARxgEnN
*dualsense update *That's handy
Ugh I have to to plug it in. :'(
*Goes to plug it in*
Wait, we can do it wirelessly now! ;D
*dualsense update *yeah i didn't even realize till i saw a post about it. Here i updated all mine by plugging them in and didn't realize. Works for the PSVR2 sense controllers as well.
Ugh I have to to plug it in. :'(
*Goes to plug it in*
Wait, we can do it wirelessly now! ;D
yeah i didn't even realize till i saw a post about it. Here i updated all mine by plugging them in and didn't realize. Works for the PSVR2 sense controllers as well.the ability to update wirelessly was the previous update. if you skipped it maybe you needed to do this one while wired in.
So do emojis not work for me anymore?:) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'(
:'(
Edit: this one worked.
the ability to update wirelessly was the previous update. if you skipped it maybe you needed to do this one while wired in.This was with the new update I guess.
Join a Discord Voice Chat on Your PS5 Console. You can now join Discord voice chats on your PS5 console and easily chat with friends on most other gaming platforms. To start, link your Discord and PlayStation Network accounts from your PS5 console, PlayStation.com, or Discord app on Windows, Mac or mobile device following these steps. Then, use the Discord app on your mobile device or computer to get a Discord voice chat going on your PS5 console (make sure your Discord app is updated to the latest version). You can also let your Discord friends see when you're online and what you're playing.
Game Library Enhancements.
You can now also sort and filter games when adding games to a gamelist.
You can use filters in your library to easily find PS VR games, as well as PS VR2 titles when PS VR2 launches later this month.
Variable Refresh Rate support for 1440p. You can now enjoy smoother visual performance when using a VRR-compatible HDMI 2.1 display at 1440p resolution, when playing a game that supports VRR.**
Wireless Device Update for DualSense Wireless Controller. You can now update the DualSense wireless controller device software with a wireless connection. If you have trouble updating the device software wirelessly, connect your controller to your PS5 console using the USB cable to update it. You'll be able to update wirelessly for the next update.
clarify: the new OS feature of wireless controller updates require controllers to have taken the previous controller update.Fair
clarify: the new OS feature of wireless controller updates require controllers to have taken the previous controller update.So I have to plug in 1 more time? Ugh!
PlayStation VR2 will soon be in stock at local retailers, in addition to https://t.co/y9oEB5aBse. Check your local retailer for availability.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) April 27, 2023
More on PS VR2: https://t.co/TiSFxroszM pic.twitter.com/79g8PsDCye
About time. Is this a sign they can/will now manufacture more units?PlayStation VR2 will soon be in stock at local retailers, in addition to https://t.co/y9oEB5aBse. Check your local retailer for availability.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) April 27, 2023
More on PS VR2: https://t.co/TiSFxroszM pic.twitter.com/79g8PsDCye
About time. Is this a sign they can/will now manufacture more units?Or has demand slowed after the initial wave?
We know you've all been patiently waiting for news on Marvel's Spider-Man 2, and we thank you for hanging in there with us. Today we have one more piece of news: a standalone release of Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered on PS5 console!
Later this month, Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered will become available for a standalone purchase on PlayStation Store. This title was previously only included as part of the Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales Ultimate Edition.
On top of that, when the game becomes available, there will be an upgrade program for owners of the original Marvel's Spider-Man on PS4 console. Whether you have a disc or a digital copy of the PS4 game**, you will be able to upgrade to Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered on the PS5 console for $10. Owners of Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales can still obtain Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered by upgrading to the Ultimate Edition through the main menu of the PS5 version of Marvel's Spider-Man: Miles Morales.
Its dumb its taken so long to do this^^agreed. not a insanely stupid as nintendo removing the mario 3D collection from digital purchases but still really stupid.
I wonder where both games sales are.
Sony apparently quietly fixed an issue with Shadow of the Colossus not properly loading textures (https://www.resetera.com/threads/shadow-of-the-colossus-texture-streaming-issues-has-been-fixed-on-ps5-bc.715234/)I guess not fully fixed.
Regrettably, I must inform everyone in this thread that after further testing I've concluded that the problem has been improved but not fully addressed. After beating the fifth Colossus on a fresh playthrough, the texture streaming issue returned in full force. This time around it just wouldn't load the high detail textures on pretty much anything in the environment no matter where I went, and the problem remained even after quitting out to the main menu and reloading my save.
Fully closing out the game and relaunching it brought back the proper texture detail, but it seems like returning to the temple after defeating any colossus is what tends to trigger the resurgence of the asset streaming issues. And once the issue returns the only recourse is to fully relaunch the game.
Here are some pics I took of it happening on the latest firmware:
Who needs a license? @BellaRamsey proves anyone can be a pro behind the wheel in Gran Turismo 7 on #PSVR2: https://t.co/niaWaZ4A2U pic.twitter.com/HMGqVC9McL
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) May 9, 2023
Who needs a license? @BellaRamsey proves anyone can be a pro behind the wheel in Gran Turismo 7 on #PSVR2: https://t.co/J9SKC16ZN8 pic.twitter.com/jLTN5L0glp
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) May 9, 2023
New tweet, nothing changed:They changed the link.Who needs a license? @BellaRamsey proves anyone can be a pro behind the wheel in Gran Turismo 7 on #PSVR2: https://t.co/J9SKC16ZN8 pic.twitter.com/jLTN5L0glp
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) May 9, 2023
Join us in celebrating Global Accessibility Awareness Day as we share new images and details on the Access controller for PS5, designed in collaboration with the accessibility community.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) May 18, 2023
Learn more: https://t.co/aCgebDwGmM pic.twitter.com/cICCodhTF8
Day #101: The scope of this project expands.
— iVRy (@iVRy_VR) June 8, 2023
In addition to getting PSVR2 working on PC, we're also working on getting streaming headsets (eg. Quest) working on PS5 (to run PSVR2 titles)! pic.twitter.com/xnIpOTSjvi
New PlayStation 5 24 Month PlayStation Plus Premium Bundle:#PlayStation #PlayStation5 #PS5 #DualSense #PlayHasNoLimits #PlayStationPlus pic.twitter.com/m81TYMB2UL
— @Zuby_Tech (@Zuby_Tech) June 19, 2023
Since when does ps5 show playtime? I have 135 hours clocked for mgsv.It always has! (On a different page, had to go under your profile.)
Since when does ps5 show playtime? I have 135 hours clocked for mgsv.Didnt it always? But I remember reading its not too accurate. But maybe Sony patched it
Didnt it always? But I remember reading its not too accurate. But maybe Sony patched itDefinitely not too accurate but MGSV is close enough to what my save file said.
It always has! (On a different page, had to go under your profile.)It's fun seeing it on the games themselves.
But they added it to the home screen in a recent update.
Since when does ps5 show playtime? I have 135 hours clocked for mgsv.technically since PS3 but it was never shown until recently.
The ones I see under each game home seems to be fairly accurate to any saves that show it as wellpersonally I think there is a bug that I can't prove but it goes something like the number doesn't update until the game is closed and reopened.
Video game hardware spending increased 56% vs YA, to $338M. This is the highest VG hardware spend for a May month since the $427M reached in May 2008. Double-digit percentage growth in both PlayStation 5 and Switch dollar sales again offset declines on other platforms.
— Mat Piscatella (@MatPiscatella) June 27, 2023
Guess I could have phrased that more clearly. Meant combined. PS5 triple digit, Switch double digit.
— Mat Piscatella (@MatPiscatella) June 27, 2023
I don't play my PS5 nearly enough. I've owned it for 3 years and yet the menus still feel foreign to me compared to ps4. I just struggled to eject a disc for example.but it's exactly the same on PS5 as PS4....
but it's exactly the same on PS5 as PS4....I was in the drop down menu for the game with the "play game" and "•••" so when "•••" didn't have it I assumed it was different on PS5.
I was in the drop down menu for the game with the "play game" and "•••" so when "•••" didn't have it I assumed it was different on PS5.(https://www.webproeducation.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/how-to-eject-PS5-disc-1024x576.png)
(https://www.webproeducation.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/how-to-eject-PS5-disc-1024x576.png)Ya I figured it out last night, but the fact I had to "figure it out" shows how rusty I am with PS5.
go to any tile and click the options button.
technically I think that's even easier than on PS4 because of memory serves you couldn't do it from any tile,.. you had to be on the game/dvd tile for the disc based thing specifically.
Ya I figured it out last night, but the fact I had to "figure it out" shows how rusty I am with PS5.Or just push the eject button on the actual console. heheheh 8)
Or just push the eject button on the actual console. heheheh 8)At least that didn't change from PS4 8)
So I've gotten 4 controllers at this point.Huh. PS4 and Switch are so far the only times my controller didn't last a whole generation.
2 at launch/shortly after.
And 2 more in the last couple months. The third controller I got was good I think. Except I think it's gotten dropped or something. The R2 button was kind of sticking out in a way it shouldn't have and it was pushing up against the R1 button. So both were jammed.
I fixed it a while ago. And now suddenly having issues with it again. The R1 button doesn't push back.
And now my newest controller is having minor issues. There's an issue with the X button not really pushing back very well. I can basically press the X button on the other controllers twice as many times.
For the past five years, we've been on a journey with accessibility organizations and experts to create a versatile controller kit that enables gamers with disabilities to play more comfortably and for longer periods, empowering more players to share in the joy of gaming. Today, I'm thrilled to announce that the Access controller for PS5 will be available globally on December 6, with preorders kicking off on Friday, July 21.
Available for a suggested retail price of $89.99 USD/$119.99 CAD/¥12,980 JPY/€89.99/£79.99 (MSRP), the Access controller lets you customize your layout with different button and stick caps in various shapes and designs, operate the controller from any 360° orientation, and connect third-party accessibility accessories using its four industry-standard 3.5mm expansion ports.
On your PS5 console, there are many settings for the Access controller that you can configure to meet your needs. You can map buttons to create up to 30 control profiles, adjust stick settings, toggle commands on/off, or disable buttons altogether to stop accidental pressing. You can even pair up to two Access controllers and one DualSense wireless controller together and use them collaboratively. Check out the video below for a sneak peek at the countless ways you can craft your own gaming experience through the Access controller:
according to my own sources, who asked to remain anonymous because they were unauthorized to speak on such details, a PlayStation 5 Pro is in development and it's codenamed 'Trinity'.
If you think the codename has some form of familiarity, you're right. Sony has used The Matrix codenames in the past, with the PlayStation 4 Pro under the codename 'Neo' and PlayStation VR under 'Morpheus'.
It's understood that Trinity has been in development since early 2022, with sources citing that although the rumours of a canceled PlayStation 5 Pro project are always "fun to read", Trinity has been the only project in the works for the Pro model. Despite dates being tentative, it's understood that demo events for the PS5 Pro are already ongoing, with the majority of studios receiving development kits by late November 2023.
Although the Pro's specs were difficult to pin down, admittingly due to my lack of technological prowess, sources have stated that Trinity with have 30 WGP and 18000mts memory.https://keytogaming.com/2023/07/21/playstation-5-pro-project-trinity/ (https://keytogaming.com/2023/07/21/playstation-5-pro-project-trinity/)
As for the consoles performance targets and as to be expected, the PlayStation 5 Pro will be targeting improved and consistent FPS at 4K resolution, a new 'performance mode' for 8K resolution, and accelerated ray tracing.
Whether or not a PlayStation 5 Pro console is desired enough in the current market remains to be seen, but as of writing, the PlayStation 5 Pro is in development and is targeting a November 2024 release date.
PlayStation Project Q Leaks:#PlayStation #ProjectQ https://t.co/gyFrsW7xkN pic.twitter.com/0R0yQIdr0I
— @Zuby_Tech (@Zuby_Tech) July 22, 2023
Why would it have such a developed menu if it's just for ps5 streaming?I still am curious about what the device is supposed to be.
I also worry if it'll suffer long term from being too dumb. Streaming tech keeps improving and unless this has the brains of a full smartphone, idk if it'll keep up.
New PS5 system software beta features revealed:
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) July 31, 2023
???? Added accessibility features
???? Support for compatible @Dolby Atmos-enabled audio devices
????? Social feature enhancements
???? Larger-capacity M.2 SSD support
?? Full details at PS Blog: https://t.co/RyzgdMeWrS pic.twitter.com/DdtUahSyGj
PlayStation 5 continues to lead the 2023 hardware market across both units and dollars.
— Mat Piscatella (@MatPiscatella) August 2, 2023
It’s both. There is an automatic Atmos mix for all existing games that support 3D Audio.
— Loïc Couthier (@LoicCouthier) August 2, 2023
For a bespoke Atmos mix made by the sound team, games would need a patch.
A total of 3.3 million PlayStation 5 units were shipped during the three months ended June 30, 2023, which is up 0.9 million from the same period the previous fiscal year.A little behind where they need to be.
Here are a couple of additional statistics:
There are 108 million monthly active users on PlayStation Network as of June 30, 2023, which is up five million from the 103 million active users during the same period the previous fiscal year.
PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 4 software combined sold 56.5 million units during the three months ended June 30, 2023, which is up 9.3 million from the 47.2 million software sold during the same period the previous fiscal year. 6.6 million units were first-party titles, which is the same amount sold during the same period the previous fiscal year. 72 percent of software sales were full game software digital downloads, which is down seven percent from the same period the previous fiscal year.
CFI-2016 PS5 Case pic.twitter.com/udFyQbVpz8
— BwE (@BwE_Dev) August 11, 2023
The gap at the top looks way too huge. Either it's fake or decreasing size was not Sony's goal imo.CFI-2016 PS5 Case pic.twitter.com/udFyQbVpz8
— BwE (@BwE_Dev) August 11, 2023
It seems a lot smaller to me just based on this videoIt's 5cm shorter but otherwise the same size, apparently.
It's 5cm shorter but otherwise the same size, apparently.If it's real then that's disappointing. Unless it's a pro version
If it's real then that's disappointing. Unless it's a pro versionMaybe it's just to decrease costs on Sony's end.
Maybe it's just to decrease costs on Sony's end.What speculation doesn't make sense?
So much of the speculation I've seen from insiders makes no freaking sense.
What speculation doesn't make sense?Selling the system digital only and having a detachable disk drive for people that want one.
Selling the system digital only and having a detachable disk drive for people that want one.A lot of people have been confused about that.
We were just talking the other day about how popular disk PS5's are. No way would Sony discontinue them and hope an equivalent amount of people buy a $50 accessory.
It's understood that this new PlayStation 5 console will be sold on its own, or, in a bundle with the detachable disc drive.
Sources have implied that although the new detachable disc drive is portable, it will not ruin the aesthetics of the console and will attach to it without looking external,https://insider-gaming.com/new-playstation-5/ (https://insider-gaming.com/new-playstation-5/)
Hamren lists the variable GPU and CPU clock rates of the PS5, "versus us running at higher sustained rates." Hamren admits Sony has a clear advantage on SSD performance with the PS5:
Cerny talked at length about the move to SSDs and the advantages for game developers and consumers. They have optimized for raw higher raw throughput (2x ours with slightly better hardware compression and associated performance improvements) as opposed to a more integrated streaming architecture enabled by Sampler Feedback Streaming.
Elsewhere, the 12 teraflops of performance versus Sony's 10 teraflops was also briefly discussed. "[Cerny] emphasized that GPU teraflops and CU is not a good measurement of performance. We made this same point with Digital Foundry, but we do have a clear performance advantage (12 v 10)," wrote Hamren.
Spencer then explains he purchased a PS5 in August 2022. "Sony has been force bundling HZD for $50 [additional] for awhile now," said Spencer. "I bought my PS5 2 weeks ago and only option was HZD bundle at $549." HZD incorrectly refers to Horizon Zero Dawn here, as it was Horizon Forbidden West that Sony bundled with the PS5.It's a little funny to think that Phil might have had trouble getting a PS5 too.
Update went live last week, guess I forgot to say anything about it.New PS5 system software beta features revealed:
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) July 31, 2023
???? Added accessibility features
???? Support for compatible @Dolby Atmos-enabled audio devices
????? Social feature enhancements
???? Larger-capacity M.2 SSD support
?? Full details at PS Blog: https://t.co/RyzgdMeWrS pic.twitter.com/DdtUahSyGj
How MS reacted to PS5 (https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/18/23878386/microsoft-sony-ps5-playstation-reaction-price-increase-internal-emails)SSDs have been pretty disappointing in general. Loading interiors in starfield is faster than it was in skyrim, but it's still a thing.
It's a little funny to think that Phil might have had trouble getting a PS5 too.
in my experience loading screen are a thing of the past. don't believe me? go fire up that ps3/4 again and tell me that the ps5 isn't lighting fast.Maybe I'm just proving Cerny's approach right since those few extra seconds are all I'm talking about.
...because it's nice we quickly became accustom to it and forgot just how bad it used to be.
i have no comment on xbox. if starfield sucks at loading things that sounds like an xbox problem not a playstation problem. there have been at least a few DF video where they explicitly say that xbox is 2-3x slower than playstation at loading something. typically that is 2-3x off a really small number but 5 seconds on ps can be 15 second on xbox.
the game that comes specifically to mind is divinity orginal sin 2. that's a game my coop buddy and i started on ps4 and finished on ps5. the performance boost was amazing. this is the only article i can find with respect to that and it's xbox but here it say it dropped from 75 seconds to 17 seconds:
https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/xbox-series-x-load-times-vs-xbox-one-x-vs-xbox-series-s-vs-xbox-one/
SSDs have been awesome.Actually that's a funny thought. Are there any old games with elevator loading that are awkwardly fast now?
Demon's Souls has been one of the better experiences for me. Go from PS4 games where a lot of loading takes even up to a minute, and then you have some games like Demon's Souls where it takes like 5 seconds if that.
On the other hand, so many games have utilized smart tricks to hide loading screens over the past few gens, that the SSD hasn't particularly made a difference for those.
The Access controller for PS5 was built for accessibility, beginning when players open the package.
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) October 12, 2023
Get a glimpse inside the box: https://t.co/abRFFoBcOk pic.twitter.com/qrMPU3fw9D
In partnership with @PlayStation, we are introducing a new Adaptive Gaming Kit that is compatible with the Sony Access Controller. Unlock the possibilities of play with a set of highly configurable and durable buttons and triggers.https://t.co/1dQmtJEADr pic.twitter.com/eUky5YS30o
— Logitech G (@LogitechG) October 12, 2023
>Why doesn't PS5 have folders yet? I don't like having to scroll through the whole game library.wait, are you speaking of yourself here. did you not know sony added "folders" earlier this year?
>Are you guys not using the folder above the game library?
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wait, are you speaking of yourself here. did you not know sony added "folders" earlier this year?No sorry, I'm the one in the middle.
I'm so excited to finally share that I was part of the team that created PlayStation's Access Controller. This controller is a game-changer for disabled gamers, and it's going to break down barriers and create accessibility for the entire community.
— Paul Amadeus Lane ????????????????? (@PaulAmadeusLane) October 12, 2023
I've been gaming since I was… pic.twitter.com/uye0gG6JU1
PS5/PS4 will no longer have Twitter/X integration as of Nov 13th, 2023 pic.twitter.com/Rm0ENYgZmX
— Wario64 (@Wario64) November 6, 2023
so this is like 100% because sony doesn't want to pay right?PS5/PS4 will no longer have Twitter/X integration as of Nov 13th, 2023 pic.twitter.com/Rm0ENYgZmX
— Wario64 (@Wario64) November 6, 2023
Officially 3 years old.Yeah lots of great games, better than PS4's first three years.
I think overall it's been a decent generation.
God of War Ragnarok
Spider-Man 2
Spider-Man Miles Morales
Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart
Horizon forbidden West
Gran Turismo 7
Sackboy A Big Adventure
Returnal
Demon Souls Remake
The Last of Us Remake
Astro's Playroom
I think you can fault the quantity and diversity to some extent, but not the quality.
i noticed you left of destruction all starts and horizion call of the mountain. trying to bias the list to bolster your claim of quality? :PI left off minor games/ports.
How's it feel compared to a regular DS? Compared to a vita?This thing is niiiiice. Solid remote play. Feels really comfortable to hold. Screen is great. Really awesome just being able to play ps5 anywhere in the house.
How's it feel compared to a regular DS? Compared to a vita?Feels great. It has an amazing build quality compared to those. It's super sleek. A lot better than it looks. My biggest gripe is no Bluetooth to use my AirPods. Likely not going to be buying the PS earbuds as of now.
???? PS5 ? pic.twitter.com/9Wc8dUI0dX
— PlayStation Game Size (@PlaystationSize) November 17, 2023
Huh?They found TLOU 2 native PS5 version.
They found TLOU 2 native PS5 version.Oh cool. Odd thing to take this many years to release.
There currently isn't one. Just currently plays in BC mode.
Oh cool. Odd thing to take this many years to release.I'm guessing it was to line up with a PC port, which just came out like 8 months ago.
more The Last of Us Part II Remastered screenshots pic.twitter.com/f0KjGxR6XQ
— Wario64 (@Wario64) November 17, 2023
???? The Last of Us™ Part II Remastered
— PlayStation Game Size (@PlaystationSize) November 17, 2023
Native PS5 enhancements
Built for the PS5 console, The Last of Us Part II Remastered enhances the original PS4 game in ways not possible before, including:
• A host of graphical improvements bring the beautiful-yet-dangerous world to life.…
©2024 Sony Interactive Entertainment LLC
— PlayStation Game Size (@PlaystationSize) November 17, 2023
EXCLUSIVE - The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered Launching January 2024 [trailer in article]https://t.co/FhU027hUCf
— Insider Gaming (@InsiderGamingIG) November 17, 2023
The Last of Us Part II Remastered launches Jan 19 on PS5, bringing with it:
— PlayStation (@PlayStation) November 18, 2023
???? Roguelike survival mode No Return
?? Previously cut Lost Levels
?? Tech improvements
?? Upgrade path for PS4 owners
Full details: https://t.co/PpAiy2Ze00 pic.twitter.com/AntSXUcKsc
#BlackFriday The @PlayStation 5 Digital Edition (slim) is in stock at Amazon for US $449 (Delivery this Sunday in many areas) https://t.co/vfkk36tgW3 pic.twitter.com/ix91TJgGpf
— Larry Hryb ????? (@majornelson) November 24, 2023
Fml this system of FVII Remake save transfer is dumb. You have to upload the saves via the PS4 version, then download the PS5 version and download the saves there. Instead of just using the cloud saves. I had downloaded the ps5 version, around 100gb, when I found out. I needed to delete again to have space for the 100gb+ PS4 version lmao.So an extra 10 minutes now that you've got really great internet? ;)
So an extra 10 minutes now that you've got really great internet? ;)Yeah thankfully my internet is really fast now so it wasn't really an issue heh. More of a nuisance. But I imagine it being an issue for other people with slower internet or limited bandwidth.
That's silly with the save. You'd think by now that this stuff would be sorted out and automatic.
Fml this system of FVII Remake save transfer is dumb. You have to upload the saves via the PS4 version, then download the PS5 version and download the saves there. Instead of just using the cloud saves. I had downloaded the ps5 version, around 100gb, when I found out. I needed to delete again to have space for the 100gb+ PS4 version lmao.You had to do this for stuff like Spider-man ps4 and remastered amongst other games.
I'm feeling hyped but about as much as I was with FF which I didn't play yet.
Hype?! Looks pretty cool
I'm feeling hyped but about as much as I was with FF which I didn't play yet.Same thoughts here haha. I've too much to play. It looks quite a lot like FF with maybe less melodrama
so like on one hand I really want to play it. on the other hand $70 is a lot of money when I'm overwhelmed with games I want to play that are free on extra or just in my backlog.
I mean,.. I should at least play dragons dogma 1 first which is both in my backlog and free via extra.
4kbluray subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/189ddo5/what_do_u_think_about_using_a_ps5_to_watch_4k/)I forgot that was even possible lol. No Dolby Vision is a miss though but not a huge deal
I've generally heard it recommended that people should get a dedicated 4k blu-ray player, so this is like the first time that I've seen so many people say the PS5 is a good UHD player.
Playstation will win Europe, that is a fact.So this didn't age well. ;D
America could go to anyone however and Japan could go to Nintendo. With all the changes in leadership and recent issues with Sony, it feels like both of the other systems are going into next gen ready to win.
Sony will end PS4 with some awesome games, just like PS3, but they have only a few studios working on next gen. Meanwhile xbox has given up on this gen and Nintendo is back in fashion.
Change my mind.
>I expect Sony to come in last next gen; change my mindMS is like 25% of Playstation's 3rd party right now. when/if MS pulls everything off of ps I think ps is dead. I expect that to align with the announcement of next Gen hardware. either that or MS goes full 3rd party.
So this didn't age well. ;D
MS is like 25% of Playstation's 3rd party right now. when/if MS pulls everything off of ps I think ps is dead. I expect that to align with the announcement of next Gen hardware. either that or MS goes full 3rd party.Probably, but PS5 has been doing great. (The prediction was about PS5, in case you missed it)
not really sure where MS goes from here but what they are currently doing isn't working. one way or another I expect MS to make a seismic shift in the market in a few years.
Probably, but PS5 has been doing great. (The prediction was about PS5, in case you missed it)no I got that,.. but it seemed like a great time to offer my prediction for ps6/Xbox X2 since we are a few years out.
Super didn't expect ps5 to do this well though. I still don't understand why it's selling on pace with the ps4.I guess I'm kind of wondering what you feel Sony had last gen that they don't this gen?
I guess I'm kind of wondering what you feel Sony had last gen that they don't this gen?Last gen felt like lightning in a bottle. Their competitor was making a fool of themselves while PS4 was doing everything right. I don't believe they had a single misstep on the console/corporate side until Jim Ryan talked about crossplay and bc in 2017.
I guess I'm kind of wondering what you feel Sony had last gen that they don't this gen?i'm more curious as to how legend thinks he was right about xbox series X... it's trending below xb one LTD launch aligned especially in this 3rd year where it is pretty significantly down YoY instead of having a peak year.
Last gen felt like lightning in a bottle. Their competitor was making a fool of themselves while PS4 was doing everything right. I don't believe they had a single misstep on the console/corporate side until Jim Ryan talked about crossplay and bc in 2017.I mean Sony has had plenty of big successes this gen for casual/core players. God of War Ragnarok, Spider-Man 2, Horizon II, Gran Turismo 7, Spider-Man Miles Morales, have been pretty well liked by casual and core players alike I think.
Thinking about it more, it's maybe just the casuals vs the core players. Bloodborne sure excited more core players than Spiderman 2, but we all know which one pushed more systems.
I think I was right about xbox, they are doing a lot better this gen than last gen.Are they though? Trending way down already
Super didn't expect ps5 to do this well though. I still don't understand why it's selling on pace with the ps4.
i'm more curious as to how legend thinks he was right about xbox series X... it's trending below xb one LTD launch aligned especially in this 3rd year where it is pretty significantly down YoY instead of having a peak year.They've mostly bought their position, but you just agreed with me in your previous post rofl. Last gen at this point Sony really didn't care what MS did since xbox wasn't a threat, yet Sony very much views xbox as a threat today.
Are they though? Trending way down alreadyXbox series outselling Xbox one in America isn't my point, but are enough NPD numbers still leaked to track everything? That'd be cool to see.
They've mostly bought their position, but you just agreed with me in your previous post rofl. Last gen at this point Sony really didn't care what MS did since xbox wasn't a threat, yet Sony very much views xbox as a threat today.not really.
Xbox series outselling Xbox one in America isn't my point, but are enough NPD numbers still leaked to track everything? That'd be cool to see.
They've mostly bought their position, but you just agreed with me in your previous post rofl. Last gen at this point Sony really didn't care what MS did since xbox wasn't a threat, yet Sony very much views xbox as a threat today.Well we get enough hints to deduce numbers based on past numbers and percentages up/down for example, sometimes with more info.
Xbox series outselling Xbox one in America isn't my point, but are enough NPD numbers still leaked to track everything? That'd be cool to see.
DualSense wireless controller built-in mic and speaker audio enhancements
We've updated the device software of the DualSense and DualSense Edge wireless controllers to improve their sound features.
Share Screen Interactions
Players watching Share Screen in full screen mode can now use pointers and emoji reactions to interact with the host's gameplay.
Viewers can move a pointer around, send a ping or draw a line on the shared screen, allowing them to highlight certain objects or areas to guide the host player more accurately.
Viewers can send emoji-based reactions to the host's screen to visually encourage and celebrate gameplay actions.
Note: this feature is available by default but can be turned off by the host in the Share Screen settings. Both the host and the viewer must be participating in the beta to use this feature during the beta period.
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Adjust Brightness of PS5 Power Indicator
You can now adjust the brightness of your PS5 console's power indicator.
Go to [Settings] > [System] > [Beep and Light], and then select [Brightness].
reminder: foamstars launched today and is free via ps+. i expect all of you (with subs) to at least give it a try. mine is downloaded and ready to play tonight.so i played last night. my thoughts are:
Helldivers 2 is currently #1 on the Steam top sellers list for paid games in the US. It's ahead of Palworld.
— KAMI (@Okami13_) February 7, 2024
It's also the #1 most pre-ordered game on the PlayStation Store in the US and other regions.
Looks like PlayStation's first shooter in years is doing reasonably well. ???? pic.twitter.com/oB33kjFkOQ
reminder: foamstars launched today and is free via ps+. i expect all of you (with subs) to at least give it a try. mine is downloaded and ready to play tonight.Liking it? Has pretty bad reviews Foamstars Reviews - OpenCritic (https://opencritic.com/game/16271/foamstars)
Liking it? Has pretty bad reviews Foamstars Reviews - OpenCritic (https://opencritic.com/game/16271/foamstars)helldivers is better but foamstars is good.
"We're pleased to share that we are currently testing the ability for PS VR2 players to access additional games on PC to offer even more game variety in addition to the PS VR2 titles available through PS5,"
Wowza nice. Is this a move of desperation to increase headset sales or are they thinking of porting vr games to pc?(https://media1.tenor.com/m/odyVsZbC-OYAAAAC/why-not-both-why-not.gif)
Today's leaked documents also confirmed:
Rendering 45% faster than PS5
2-3x Ray-tracing (x4 in some cases)
33.5 Teraflops
PSSR (PlayStation Spectral Super Resolution Upscaling) upscaling/antialiasing solution
Support for resolutions up to 8K is planned for future SDK version
Custom machine learning architecture
AI Accelerator, supporting 300 TOPS of 8 bit computation / 67 TFLOPS of 16-bit floating point
I'll skip it just like I skipped the pro. Don't even have my ps5 hooked up to a 4k screen:o
So what will xbox do with series s? Make it optional for devs?more likely these high end specs don't get utilized. probably nothing more than a "high performance" mode that uses the high frame rates from performance mode and the high resolution/ray tracing from graphics mode.
These rumored specs are so much freaking higher than series s. 4 tflops vs 33.5 tflops, that is crazy! It's a larger gulf than PS4 vs switch.
:oI have a 4k tv and a 4k computer monitor that my devkit is hooked up to. Just don't have one for my PS5. It's hooked up to a 3D tv and I don't want to lose that functionality :'(
I'm on my second 4k TV heh. Why don't you have 4k yet? VRR and 4k are gamechangers for me.
more likely these high end specs don't get utilized. probably nothing more than a "high performance" mode that uses the high frame rates from performance mode and the high resolution/ray tracing from graphics mode.These rumored specs are way too powerful if the only goal was to run high quality modes at high frame rates. I don't expect the specs to get fully utilized, but this sounds more like xbox one x to xbox one than ps4 pro to ps4.
it will only be noticable to digital foundry.
I have a 4k tv and a 4k computer monitor that my devkit is hooked up to. Just don't have one for my PS5. It's hooked up to a 3D tv and I don't want to lose that functionality :'(sure, specs are great...
These rumored specs are way too powerful if the only goal was to run high quality modes at high frame rates. I don't expect the specs to get fully utilized, but this sounds more like xbox one x to xbox one than ps4 pro to ps4.
sure, specs are great...I think you're in agreement with me.
...but games are already expensive to make. how much optimization do you expect devs to do for a tiny user base? it's not like the PS5 has been pushed as is. everything is still developed to scale down to PS4 and series S.
these specs are for bragging rights of having the money to buy it. games won't utilize it well.
I think you're in agreement with me.okay,.. must have misread that "too powerful to just..." bit. I thought you were arguing with me.
One x was for bragging rights. Xbox wanted a system that their core fans could fanboy over. This rumor sounds a lot like that.
Series s will be difficult because PS5/Series X will stop being the bells and whistles platforms. Actually start pushing them to their limit and how can series s keep up?
Exclusive: Sony paused PSVR2 production due to piled up inventory throughout the supply chain, people familiar with the matter told Bloomberg.https://t.co/FtV8T9hCoo
— Takashi Mochizuki (@6d6f636869) March 18, 2024
They'd be smarter to do a price cut, unless the headsets are already sold at cost.a price cut assumes that sony wants to keep making these. with no games on the horizon i think sony is pretty much ready to abandon VR entirely. i just don't see this market taking off. it's really cool for a bit but also there are tons of not-so-great things about it too. it's like kinect in that way.
Fully pausing production is such a doomsday scenario.
a price cut assumes that sony wants to keep making these. with no games on the horizon i think sony is pretty much ready to abandon VR entirely. i just don't see this market taking off. it's really cool for a bit but also there are tons of not-so-great things about it too. it's like kinect in that way.Outside of PSVR2 being the exclusive option for PS5, it has practically nothing going for it. Meta Quest 3 is cheaper, higher quality, wireless, and can run games locally.
As expected, Sony has launched an internal investigation into the leaked documents on Trinity as it leaked during a third-party rollout.
— Tom Henderson (@_Tom_Henderson_) March 18, 2024
Not sure on the implications yet as I don't think they can catch one individual, but Sony could reduce its third-party developer pool for new…
Sony says that PSSR has a 250MB memory footprint, but interestingly, developer disclosures reveal that the technique can be backported to any existing PlayStation game. This is at odds with 'back compat plus' features bolted on to PS4 games running on PS5, which required games to run on modern development environments (SDKs). This could be of crucial importance in upgrading existing PS5 games that suffer from image quality problems - and we're seeing a lot of those thanks to low internal resolutions and FSR2 upscaling. The Pro could deliver vastly improved results via its extra GPU power and PSSR upscaling.
Will be interesting to see how many games get patched. How many PS4 games got patched for the pro? I never owned a consumer PS4 pro so I never got to try it out.I had a pro. Felt like a lot got patched and pretty much all games after release had a pro mode
I get the feeling Stellar Blade is going to be pretty successful unless it's pure trash. I've seen more and more people arguing about it.demo has been very well received. I think part of that is very low expectations. also most people expected DMC/bayonetta and not sekiro/GoW which is a more appealing genre. performance has been good. and let's not avoid it,... naughtiness sells.
demo has been very well received. I think part of that is very low expectations. also most people expected DMC/bayonetta and not sekiro/GoW which is a more appealing genre. performance has been good. and let's not avoid it,... naughtiness sells.Hopefully it is great and does great. I don't think I'm the target audience unless it has a great story like Nier Automata, but I want Sony to branch out more and make more "budget" story based games.
I've seen a lot of opinions change from hard pass to day-1.
Hopefully it is great and does great. I don't think I'm the target audience unless it has a great story like Nier Automata, but I want Sony to branch out more and make more "budget" story based games.I doubt it is helldivers successful but I think it should do well enough.