A lot of people are concerned.
There are different ways this could go.
There are different ways this could go.
Started by the-pi-guy, Sep 24, 2020, 04:00 PM
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If you believe these future titles will come to PS5 you are unreasonably optimistic.Phil wanted Gamepass on other platforms.
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So short story: I disagree.
Thanks, but that#s still only half of it. Doesn't matter now.Pffft. Post the half, coward!
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I think it'll be a gradual shift. Starfield if it's 2021 will come to both. Post 2021 nothing will be on PS5 unless it's also on switch/mobile.Technically everything will be on mobile.
It is probably just naive optimism.part of my reason for thinking bethesda is will remain exclusive is my assertion that those kind of numbers are straight up unachievable.
A lot of this depends on how much MS believes in Gamepass. Somewhere along the lines Netflix pretty much doesn't care about what used to be their old competition. It seems pretty clear that MS wants Gamepass to be like Netflix.
If they can get 100 million or even 200 million people subscribing to Gamepass, that's massive money. That's the kind of money that makes you forget Xbox exists. Even if the average sub is $10, that's 1 to 2 billion every single month.
It starts to matter less if people are playing on your boxes if they are still paying to be in your ecosystem.
part of my reason for thinking bethesda is will remain exclusive is my assertion that those kind of numbers are straight up unachievable.I pretty much agree. Until I see it happening I remain convinced that 100 million users on a service like this are fantasy numbers.
1. netflix is the gold standard in streaming services and it has 182 million subscribers
- netflix is tv. tv is far more universally consumed than gaming is.
- netflix is global. netflix is in markets where game streaming is technologically not possible since the internet requirements are soo much higher for gaming.
2. ms's content is not well rounded. there are lots of gamers in the world but ms's content only caters to 1 kind of gamer. i can't imagine the nintedo fanatics seeing any value in ms's service because there isn't any nintendo style content on the service. hell, as a sony gamer i see little content i like because i'm into the epic single player experience like GoW and too much of ms is online mp stuff. the bethesda acquisition broadens their appeal some but content wise it's still limited in appeal. my understanding are there are a lot of sports gamers,.. those that only play fifa, madden, 2k21.
3. casuals are casual and casuals are the norm. we all know that the average console user only has ~10 games in their library. spread over a generation of gaming that means they are only buying 1 game a year. even if they buy that at full price ($70) that is still a lot less money then paying for gamepass ($180/year). the people seeing value in this service are only the truely hardcore gamer in which they buy at least $180 in software a year. i think that number is quite a bit higher than the average gamer. hell, i have like 300 ps4 games in my library and $180 is only around what i pay a year since i wait for titles to drop into the sub $20 range.
i don't know where MS thinks they are going to find 100+ m gamers that are willing to subscribe to a $180/year service that misses some of the generations biggest games. that's a lot of gamers. that's a lot of money for most people.
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