Can we just state the obvious? Conservatives are horrible human beings committed to inflicting suffering and misery on humanity?

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kitler53

Jan 05, 2023, 07:58 PM Last Edit: Jan 05, 2023, 08:11 PM by kitler53
McCarthy makes massive concessions to the far-right that will inflict massive damage to the role of the house speaker and ultimately to our country in that it will be impossible to govern at all....

....doesn't even pick up one vote.


time to step down McCarthy.   are you in this for yourself or for the country?    you need to pivot to the democratics and find a moderate speaker the majority can feel good about and cut these extremist out of government.


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kitler53

Jan 17, 2023, 03:17 PM Last Edit: Jan 17, 2023, 03:21 PM by kitler53
https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/17/us/solomon-pena-arrested-new-mexico-shootings/index.html

Failed GOP candidate arrested on suspicion of orchestrating shootings at homes of Democrats in New Mexico, police say

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Peña will face charges related to four shootings: a December 4 incident at the home of Bernalillo County Commissioner Adriann Barboa; a December 8 shooting at the home of incoming state House Speaker Javier Martinez; a December 11 shooting at the home of then-Bernalillo Commissioner Debbie O'Malley; and a January 3 shooting at the home of state Sen. Linda Lopez, police said in a news release.

In the latest shooting, police found evidence "Peña himself went on this shooting and actually pulled the trigger on at least one of the firearms that was used," Albuquerque police Deputy Cmdr. Kyle Hartsock said. But an AR handgun he tried to use malfunctioned, and more than a dozen rounds were fired by another shooter from a separate handgun, the police statement said.


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kitler53

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/feb/08/jackson-mississippi-republicans-unelected-court-system

Mississippi Republicans create a separate, unelected court system and police force to oppress the predominantly (80%) black city of Jackson.


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the-pi-guy

Uh.

Missouri Republicans vote to allow children to carry guns


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Missouri's Republican-controlled state House has voted against banning children from openly carrying guns on public land without adult supervision.
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"While it may be intuitive that a 14-year-old has no legitimate purpose, it doesn't actually mean that they're going to harm someone. We don't know that yet," said Rep Tony Lovasco, a Republican from the St Louis suburb of O'Fallon.


BananaKing

Uh.

Missouri Republicans vote to allow children to carry guns


Lmaooo

America!!! This is so horrible its hilarious

The "we don't know that yet" part is the cherry on top. Thats what common sense is for buddy... and hey.. when kids start to shoot people, and you send mostly the black ones to jail... Will ya reverse the law? Of course not.

kitler53

democrates really needs to rebrand.   

we don't want "gun control",.. we want "responsible gun ownership".    republicans have taken so a extreeme view on guns that what they are not fighting for is to be totally irresponsible with their guns in our communities.  

Lmaooo

America!!! This is so horrible its hilarious

The "we don't know that yet" part is the cherry on top. Thats what common sense is for buddy... and hey.. when kids start to shoot people, and you send mostly the black ones to jail... Will ya reverse the law? Of course not.
not quite,..  the black kids are executed.   the white ones are celebrated as heros.


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SWORDF1SH

I'm so fed up with everything political having to be polarised. The gun laws is so messed up in USA and Republicans have to accept that gun ownership has to be strict. Dems have to realise that you can't ban guns. It's like fudgy kids arguing all the time. Stop trying to score points over the other side act like adults and come up with a reasonable compromise that both sides can at least accept. All this arguing, no change and people are suffering while the idiots "running" the country line their own pockets.

BananaKing

I'm so fed up with everything political having to be polarised. The gun laws is so messed up in USA and Republicans have to accept that gun ownership has to be strict. Dems have to realise that you can't ban guns. It's like fudgy kids arguing all the time. Stop trying to score points over the other side act like adults and come up with a reasonable compromise that both sides can at least accept. All this arguing, no change and people are suffering while the idiots "running" the country line their own pockets.
Well you can ban guns. A lot of countries in Europe do it, and it works very very very well.

In fact it makes things so. Much. Safer.

kitler53

Feb 11, 2023, 02:11 PM Last Edit: Feb 11, 2023, 02:14 PM by kitler53
I'm so fed up with everything political having to be polarised. The gun laws is so messed up in USA and Republicans have to accept that gun ownership has to be strict. Dems have to realise that you can't ban guns. It's like fudgy kids arguing all the time. Stop trying to score points over the other side act like adults and come up with a reasonable compromise that both sides can at least accept. All this arguing, no change and people are suffering while the idiots "running" the country line their own pockets.
don't fudgy "both sides" this...

dems tried a pass a law that a minor (under 18) can't open carry an assult rifle unattended and republicans shot it down.



dems aren't trying to ban guns they are trying to get some sensible level of law and order and around what it too harmful to society to be allowed.   republicans current view is that absolutely no restrictions can be put on guns in any way whatsoever.   in republican states like tx they are pushing for unregistered open carry for any citizen regardless of anything such as history of violent crime.  in democratic states courts have recently shot down all sorts of reasonable restrictions:
- a permit is required to open/concealed carry
- persons with active restraining order for domestic violence can't buy guns


Republicans recently overturned a restriction that people can't carry guns in to public locations like a school.   Republicans have an active lawsuit right now to overturn private property owners from being able to ban guns on their own property. 


and frankly don't forget the other half of this story.   while republicans flood our streets with guns::
1. it was republicans that made it legal for police officer to kill any citizen for which they "fear for their lives".
2. republican are also pushing the vigilantly laws that allow citizen to openly murder other citizens without repercussion so long as they "thought" they were in danger.

that's how we get shame like that story where some black guy parks in a handicap spot and some white guy decides it's is right to put a gun in the black guys face demanding he move his car and then the black guy flinched and the white guy kills the black guy.   the white guy faced no charges because despite aggressively threating the black man with a gun he "feared for his life" when black man reaction was total and complete submission....


do NOT fudgy "both sides" this.  lynching never stopped in america,.. republicans just legalized it.





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the-pi-guy

Well you can ban guns. A lot of countries in Europe do it, and it works very very very well.

In fact it makes things so. Much. Safer.
Technically a lot of countries in Europe have very broad gun ownership like Norway and Sweden.
Even Australia has quite a few guns.

They just take more care with gun licenses among other things.

BananaKing

Technically a lot of countries in Europe have very broad gun ownership like Norway and Sweden.
Even Australia has quite a few guns.

They just take more care with gun licenses among other things.
And Sweden is having a lot of trouble with guns and crime actually

SWORDF1SH

don't fudgy "both sides" this...

dems tried a pass a law that a minor (under 18) can't open carry an assult rifle unattended and republicans shot it down.



dems aren't trying to ban guns they are trying to get some sensible level of law and order and around what it too harmful to society to be allowed.   republicans current view is that absolutely no restrictions can be put on guns in any way whatsoever.   in republican states like tx they are pushing for unregistered open carry for any citizen regardless of anything such as history of violent crime.  in democratic states courts have recently shot down all sorts of reasonable restrictions:
- a permit is required to open/concealed carry
- persons with active restraining order for domestic violence can't buy guns


Republicans recently overturned a restriction that people can't carry guns in to public locations like a school.   Republicans have an active lawsuit right now to overturn private property owners from being able to ban guns on their own property.  


and frankly don't forget the other half of this story.   while republicans flood our streets with guns::
1. it was republicans that made it legal for police officer to kill any citizen for which they "fear for their lives".
2. republican are also pushing the vigilantly laws that allow citizen to openly murder other citizens without repercussion so long as they "thought" they were in danger.

that's how we get shame like that story where some black guy parks in a handicap spot and some white guy decides it's is right to put a gun in the black guys face demanding he move his car and then the black guy flinched and the white guy kills the black guy.   the white guy faced no charges because "he feared for his life"....


do NOT fudgy "both sides" this.  lynching never stopped in america,.. republicans just legalized it.




I absolutely agree. I both sided politics in general. I did think the Democrats were pushing to ban guns outright but probably getting confused with the loudmouth Twitterers. But even if the Dems were pushing for an outright ban I didn't mean for it to sound 50/50 because what the republicans want when it comes gun control is seriously messed up.

kitler53

I absolutely agree. I both sided politics in general. I did think the Democrats were pushing to ban guns outright but probably getting confused with the loudmouth Twitterers. But even if the Dems were pushing for an outright ban I didn't mean for it to sound 50/50 because what the republicans want when it comes gun control is seriously messed up.
no dem is asking to outright ban guns.  maybe a few think about it to themselves but with our second amendment not one is crazy enough to think there is even a 0.0000001% chance of that happening.   we are pushing for responsible gun ownership.  

things like if you have a gun in the house and a small child that the gun be properly secured so we don't have yet another killing caused by a 5 year old not understanding the consequences of a gun set unattended on a counter. 

...but we can't even pass that.  

all because republicans blatantly lie and create a false equivalence between any sensible gun regulation and an outright ban on guns.  


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kitler53

to add because now I'm worked up.


sandy hook:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
...was performed by a kid with known metal issues.  he would not have been allowed to purchase a gun but he didn't have to.  he just grabbed from the pile of guns his mother didn't secure in his house and proceeded to murder 26 people (20 kids).  

the republican response?

thoughts and prayers.  it would be disrespectful to the victims to talk about guns right now. we can't prove any gun law would have stopped this.  democrats just want to take away our guns....


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SWORDF1SH

to add because now I'm worked up.


sandy hook:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting
...was performed by a kid with known metal issues.  he would not have been allowed to purchase a gun but he didn't have to.  he just grabbed from the pile of guns his mother didn't secure in his house and proceeded to murder 26 people (20 kids).  

the republican response?

thoughts and prayers.  it would be disrespectful to the victims to talk about guns right now. we can't prove any gun law would have stopped this.  democrats just want to take away our guns....
That's battleship. Sounds like they want all the gun laws their way. Why wouldn't you want tighter gun control? Technically they are right in saying that we don't know if any gun laws could of stopped the Sandy Hook shootings but what a dumb thing to say when little to know laws is probably 99.99% why it happened.  But hey, there is that 0.01% why tighter laws might not of prevented that incident. Tighter gun laws will lead to fewer gun related deaths and fewer school shootings. That's obvious. Sounds like they need to get their out from out their own dog.

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