Can we just state the obvious? Conservatives are horrible human beings committed to inflicting suffering and misery on humanity?

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I don't like Kitler's framing of it, but I get where he's coming from.

I've spent the past several years having conversations with people.

I've been polite, even to people that were legitimately openly white supremacists, because I thought it would make it more likely for people to listen to me, and debate honestly.

I've been factual, providing sources and arguments to every single claim. I would spend hours researching stuff, even to the point where it was legitimately straining on my marriage.

In the end, none of it ever mattered.
My politeness was virtue signaling. My sources were propaganda.
My arguments were twisted to bizarre versions of themselves.


We can't talk about how black people have life harder than white people on average, without people claiming racism is gone, black people deserve a hard life, maybe if they didn't have single parents.

We can't talk about black people having a harder life on average, without people claiming that "we hate white people".

We can't talk about climate change without people complaining that it's all a government conspiracy, it's not real, the science isn't settled.

We can't talk about vaccines without people complaining that it's all Bill Gates conspiracies, a government conspiracy, we're being experimented on.

We can't talk about transgender people, or even that biology is way more complex than what we learn in a middle school classroom, without someone calling people they think are weird, rapists and pedophiles.  

We can't even talk about the existence of gay people without being called pedophiles.

I don't hate white or straight or cis or Christian people, just because I think other people, that aren't those things, also deserve a good life.  

I don't hate conservatives. I just wish they'd listen to reason, stop making enemies out of every fricken thing they don't understand.

And when it comes to climate change, I wish they'd actually try coming up with solutions instead of being this:

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This is why I think it's a problem on both sides. There are reasonable people on both sides that are willing to talk but there's so few. People like yourself might want a reasonable debate but won't find anybody open minded enough to talk and same for people on the other side of the fence. Everybody just concludes that each side are closed minded and wrong, even the reasonable people because they can't find a decent debate.
Idk, it all just makes me sick and why I very rarely discuss politics.

i'm tired of our kangaroo supreme court.

i'm tired of the constant attacks on voting rights.

i'm pissed we had an insuration to overturn the election that half this country views them as "patriots".

i'm pissed conservatives in michigan attempted to kidnap and murder the governor.

i'm pissed a conservative politicians literally stating "when do we get to start shooting democrats?" and no conservative was willing to even condemn it.

i'm pissed conservatives are now using government to punish corporations that don't fully support conservative agendas no matter how inhumane they are.


this isn't a "both sides" argument.   conservatives are one tucker carlson monologue away from being in full support an authoritarian take over of America in order to commit mass genocide of political adversaries.   it's why trump has soo many nice things to say about putin.   ...they envy Russia's sham elections, state-controlled media, and the lack of consequences for murdering his political adversaries.  that is the dystopian future conservatives are bringing to America,.. the end of freedom and the reign of conservative terrorism.

That sounds a very one sided opinion to me but something I'm not going to argue about. My issue is more along the lines of why tf can't people talk about issues instead of pointing fingers. We should have the freedom to talk about things without getting shut down and disagreeing is part of an healthy argument. It's just that people get over aggressive and everything turns into a shouting match. It's not productive.