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Title: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Apr 07, 2021, 07:34 PM
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Apr 07, 2021, 07:44 PM
People are joking this is Kojima's next stunt and game.


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Director's initials are HK. While not impossible, it is an interesting coincidence.
Random trailer drop that Sony does seem to give some importance to ("PS5 Exclusive"), similar to MGSV
Mentions of a Playable Teaser (PT) in the description
Extremely weird website with generic text and placeholder items
"BLUE doesn't refer to the color, rather it refers to Best Level User Experience", Kojima is known for his gameplay)
Studio that hasn't found success funding any game... suddenly has a PS5 release in the works with motion capture and all the fancy stuff?
Kojima Productions was going to reveal their next project soon
Mobile game with a Death Stranding like handprint in black ink
Studio logo very similar to the PlayStation Studios one (alright this one might be a reach)
Abandoned is a synonim of Stranded.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps5-exclusive-survival-horror-game-%E2%80%9Cabandoned%E2%80%9D-releasing-later-this-year-tech-demo-out-soon.406389/page-7#post-62384514
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Apr 07, 2021, 08:23 PM
That just looks like an indie game...



Although now I guess I need to make a shell corp and have people think Hapax is from him too.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: kitler53 on Apr 08, 2021, 01:11 AM
That just looks like an indie game...



Although now I guess I need to make a shell corp and have people think Hapax is from him too.
graphics are too good for an indie. 
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Apr 08, 2021, 02:05 AM
graphics are too good for an indie.
Nope.

Trees and all the environments can be premade assets plopped into Unity/Unreal. Also has some kinda heavy/poor motion blur imo.

The hand is our best look at studio size imo and it is not AAA.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Apr 08, 2021, 02:32 AM
BLUE BOX Game Studios (https://www.blueboxgamestudios.com/hideokojimarumors.html)

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Our response to the Hideo Kojima Rumors
We received several emails regarding the Hideo Kojima rumor. We have no association with Hideo Kojima nor do we claim to have any association nor was it our intention to claim such a statement. We are a small group of developers working on a passionate title we wanted to work on for a long time. We have been assisting other studios in the past with their projects and we wanted to work on our very first big project. While it is true that we've been working on small projects in the past, we certainly didn't use that for marketing purposes. We hope this has clarified this matter and hope to see you all in our very first gameplay reveal of Abandoned.

Lol
Just lol.

This looks like it's the only thing on their studio website.   ;D
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Apr 08, 2021, 02:40 AM
BLUE BOX Game Studios (https://www.blueboxgamestudios.com/hideokojimarumors.html)


Lol
Just lol.

This looks like it's the only thing on their studio website.   ;D
Hopefully they can use this to their advantage and have a good gameplay reveal.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 16, 2021, 02:58 AM



When you take an image from Blue Box twitter and decode it you get text in swedish. I put it in google translate and got this. : GamingLeaksAndRumours (https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/o0tea0/when_you_take_an_image_from_blue_box_twitter_and/)

Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 16, 2021, 03:11 AM
Wtf are they doing. If not Kojima, they are going to get in trouble.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: BananaKing on Jun 16, 2021, 03:14 AM
Wtf are they doing. If not Kojima, they are going to get in trouble.
They didn't do anything wrong. They are trying to promote their game

Just because people keep making crazy connections doesn't mean its their fault.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jun 16, 2021, 03:18 AM
They didn't do anything wrong. They are trying to promote their game

Just because people keep making crazy connections doesn't mean its their fault.
Looks like they are encouraging it though
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 16, 2021, 03:48 AM
WAS FAKE. THE DEVS DID NOT PUT THE TEXT IN THE PICTURE.

Looks like they are encouraging it though
Yeah if the text thing was real, that'd be way too much.

They didn't do anything wrong. They are trying to promote their game

Just because people keep making crazy connections doesn't mean its their fault.
Promoting their game is great and they seem to be doing that. If the text was real though, they'd just be promoting a made up product.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Xevross on Jun 16, 2021, 05:03 PM
It was a weird thing.

Sony guy on Era said their game is called Sigil.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 17, 2021, 01:28 AM
Ok, I'm on drugs. 

Hasan Kahraman - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/author/hkahraman/)

>Hasan Kahraman wrote the post

Translate Hasan Turkish to Japanese gives you waiting for.

Translate "Hideo" Japanese to Turkish, gives you Kahraman.

I feel like someone messed with Google translate and got some weird results.

Or maybe someone manipulated Google translate by suggesting phrases.  Because the actual phrases don't work. "Hideo" translates that way.  ひでお or 秀夫, which are the correct words don't.

Why?
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 17, 2021, 02:06 AM
Here are all the possible hints that Blue Box Game Studios is related to Kojima and Silent Hill. : GamingLeaksAndRumours (https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/o1kydj/here_are_all_the_possible_hints_that_blue_box/)

(https://media3.giphy.com/media/VSIebRjpVV5oQ/200w.gif?cid=82a1493b0eaxliuxjz26xc77y7082kmy0uq83futp31ps77z&rid=200w.gif&ct=g)
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 17, 2021, 02:07 AM
Ok, I'm on drugs.  

Hasan Kahraman - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/author/hkahraman/)

>Hasan Kahraman wrote the post

Translate Hasan Turkish to Japanese gives you waiting for.

Translate "Hideo" Japanese to Turkish, gives you Kahraman.

I feel like someone messed with Google translate and got some weird results.

Or maybe someone manipulated Google translate by suggesting phrases.  Because the actual phrases don't work. "Hideo" translates that way.  ひでお or 秀夫, which are the correct words don't.

Why?
Doesn't work in bing translate.

How would people have manipulated google translate though? That seems near impossible without google noticing.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 17, 2021, 02:19 AM
That just looks like an indie game...



Although now I guess I need to make a shell corp and have people think Hapax is from him too.
You should do it.
So then I can write a Reddit post about how the VizionEck cube is earily similar to the square PS studios logo.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 17, 2021, 02:34 AM
You should do it.
So then I can write a Reddit post about how the VizionEck cube is earily similar to the square PS studios logo.
Yeah from the type of access I have as a nobody, this really just feels like a small indie studio without a paper trail. I think fans/trolls are manufacturing a lot of the coincidences. Like here (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/blue-box-game-studio) the founding date is exactly 1 year after PT, but all their official channels like youtube and twitter were created before that in January.



It was a weird thing.

Sony guy on Era said their game is called Sigil.
That's the only thing imo that actually has weight. Either that guy is outing himself as a fraud, or this is actually a very large project with many people in the know. The game internally would be using its codename for all the official paperwork and I really hope that paperwork stays confidential.

Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jun 17, 2021, 10:08 AM
Ok, I'm on drugs.  

Hasan Kahraman - PlayStation.Blog (https://blog.playstation.com/author/hkahraman/)

>Hasan Kahraman wrote the post

Translate Hasan Turkish to Japanese gives you waiting for.

Translate "Hideo" Japanese to Turkish, gives you Kahraman.

I feel like someone messed with Google translate and got some weird results.

Or maybe someone manipulated Google translate by suggesting phrases.  Because the actual phrases don't work. "Hideo" translates that way.  ひでお or 秀夫, which are the correct words don't.

Why?
This surely confirms it's Hideo's game.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 17, 2021, 08:59 PM


This is getting weird.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 17, 2021, 09:24 PM


This is getting weird.

That sounds like an indie game.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 17, 2021, 11:02 PM
That just looks like an indie game...
It's a fake indie game? 




Man people are desperate for Kojima news. 
This indie dev spawned several reddit threads and a 20 page era thread, while getting a lot of attention elsewhere. 

How can one capitalize on hype based off manufactured rumors?   

Step 1: pretend to pretend to be Kojima. 
Step 2: profit???
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 12:44 AM


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Twitter DM timestamps have a day or date attached unless you're looking at them on the same day they were sent. That means that DM was either sent today or for some reason Geoff took a screenshot 21 minutes after he got it but before he responded. So either Geoff habitually takes screenshots when no-name indie developers reach out to him about participating in shows or...

I was on the fence before but now I'm 100% convinced this is Kojima.

(Hi Geoff. Miss you buddy.)
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 01:01 AM
Man.

At this point I'm hoping it is Kojima.

That poor indie dev is going to get wrecked by the hype deflating.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 01:20 AM
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 03:15 AM
On the bright side this should end soon.  :'(
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 18, 2021, 03:47 AM
I know it's not Kojima.

But people are finding so many crazy things. Next will be looking at Hasan's house and counting tree branches.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 02:07 PM
I'm kind of having fun watching this whole thing unfold.  

It seems way more likely this is just an indie dev pulling a ruse:



Theres a weird amount of work going into making this a bigger deal than it looks like it is.  

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I too like to take screenshots of random Twitter DMs and save them in my phone for seemingly no reason at all lol.


To be clear so people don't run off with my post, I have no idea what this is or if it's even anything. I just found Geoff's explanation funny
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Xevross on Jun 18, 2021, 04:12 PM
This is a pretty crazy story, the Era thread is wild.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 18, 2021, 04:40 PM
Abandoned-trailerapp lanceert dinsdag op PS5, aankondiging via Keighley volgt | Nieuws | Gamer.nl (https://gamer.nl/artikelen/nieuws/abandoned-trailerapp-lanceert-dinsdag-op-ps5-aankondiging-via-keighley-volgt/)

Dev is trying to get people to understand he's not Kojima but no one cares.

Will get more info on 22.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Xevross on Jun 18, 2021, 04:44 PM
Abandoned-trailerapp lanceert dinsdag op PS5, aankondiging via Keighley volgt | Nieuws | Gamer.nl (https://gamer.nl/artikelen/nieuws/abandoned-trailerapp-lanceert-dinsdag-op-ps5-aankondiging-via-keighley-volgt/)

Dev is trying to get people to understand he's not Kojima but no one cares.

Will get more info on 22.
That's what Kojima would do. Checkmate.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jun 18, 2021, 05:13 PM
I know it's not Kojima.

But people are finding so many crazy things. Next will be looking at Hasan's house and counting tree branches.

But the Google translate thing. That's a pretty big coincidence.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 05:15 PM
I feel like Kojima would be jealous.  
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 18, 2021, 06:06 PM
I feel like Kojima would be jealous.  
He's never done something this crazy. Pt and phantom pain took a few hours to figure out.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 06:32 PM
I'm Team Manufactured by Fan Coincidences.
But there is one thing that gives me pause.

The fact that Geoff's go to for showing that Hasan messaged him, was a month old screenshot.
1.) Is Geoff really in the habit of screenshotting messages like that?
2.) Even if he is, how was a one month old image the easiest thing for him to get?
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 18, 2021, 07:41 PM
I'm Team Manufactured by Fan Coincidences.
But there is one thing that gives me pause.

The fact that Geoff's go to for showing that Hasan messaged him, was a month old screenshot.
1.) Is Geoff really in the habit of screenshotting messages like that?
2.) Even if he is, how was a one month old image the easiest thing for him to get?
He could screenshot stuff as a way to bookmark it. Twitter DMs can't be kept as new or catalogued as far as I know.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 18, 2021, 08:16 PM
(https://i.redd.it/axfqq0yd03671.png)
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jun 18, 2021, 09:09 PM
(https://i.redd.it/axfqq0yd03671.png)
That's what somebody trying create a ruse would say  ::)
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 09:13 PM
That's what somebody trying create a ruse would say  ::)
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 10:44 PM
(https://i.imgflip.com/5dsdjb.jpg)
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 18, 2021, 11:01 PM

(https://i.imgflip.com/5dsf87.jpg)

The devs better not include any jokes like a Fox Engine logo next time they show the game. There is already too much fuel out there lol.


edt: woah it seems that moby sucker twitter is fan made.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 11:01 PM


Despite denying it in April....

These devs are dumb.  
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 18, 2021, 11:10 PM
edt: woah it seems that moby sucker twitter is fan made.
Yeah, I was 99% sure it was fanmade along with two other twitters that get passed around with that one.  

Still I got a kick out of it.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 18, 2021, 11:12 PM


Despite denying it in April....

These devs are dumb.  
Haha have you seen the gameplay for their previous game? They're a very small studio that is probably bumbling through marketing (like me).

I just hope they don't get hurt too much. Some communities forming around this speculation are incredibly toxic and have already made up their minds. If the game ends up being really low quality, it's going to be destroyed.

Yeah, I was 99% sure it was fanmade along with two other twitters that get passed around with that one.  

Still I got a kick out of it.
I felt like I remembered a tweet like that from way back when, but looking at the stats it should have been obvious  :P
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 19, 2021, 01:41 AM
I just got off the phone with Hasan - AMA (this is not a troll post) : TheBlueBoxConspiracy (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBlueBoxConspiracy/comments/o34hn8/i_just_got_off_the_phone_with_hasan_ama_this_is/)
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jun 19, 2021, 11:17 AM
I just got off the phone with Hasan - AMA (this is not a troll post) : TheBlueBoxConspiracy (https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBlueBoxConspiracy/comments/o34hn8/i_just_got_off_the_phone_with_hasan_ama_this_is/)
It's not Silent Hill but is it Silent Hills  :o
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jun 19, 2021, 11:23 AM
I'm starting to think that legend is part of all this and is trying to make people believe this had nothing to do with Kojima. How much is Kojima paying you, legend?
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 19, 2021, 05:38 PM
I'm starting to think that legend is part of all this and is trying to make people believe this had nothing to do with Kojima. How much is Kojima paying you, legend?
I have only met Kojima once. We were both down in Cuba on vacation back in 75.

Or maybe I'm under NDA...
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 19, 2021, 10:25 PM
Is it difficult to get a PS Blog post? 

I'm going to say not really.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: BananaKing on Jun 19, 2021, 10:31 PM
Is it difficult to get a PS Blog post?  

I'm going to say not really.
No offense to legend or anything. But he got one if I remember and a tweet from yoshida and legend was doing a new game, from a new studio with just 1 dev (himself). I think this was back in 2014 with the original reveal of vizioneck
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 20, 2021, 12:14 AM
Is it difficult to get a PS Blog post?  

I'm going to say not really.
It's difficult to become a registered PlayStation developer. Once in, a lot of things are relatively straight forward.

I'll be doing a blog post again once I'm ready with Hapax.

No offense to legend or anything. But he got one if I remember and a tweet from yoshida and legend was doing a new game, from a new studio with just 1 dev (himself). I think this was back in 2014 with the original reveal of vizioneck
Yoshida followed me so I think he was personally interested. Sorry for letting him down  :'(


Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 20, 2021, 03:24 AM
No offense to legend or anything. But he got one if I remember and a tweet from yoshida and legend was doing a new game, from a new studio with just 1 dev (himself). I think this was back in 2014 with the original reveal of vizioneck
I remembered between my post and my edit that there was a VizionEck post.



( but some people are using the blog post as evidence of something more)

The apparent app on Tuesday is kind of weird.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: BananaKing on Jun 20, 2021, 12:25 PM
I feel its just a studio thats a scam. Ahd the suspicious circumstances of that studio make it sound like its a kojima game.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 20, 2021, 05:59 PM
I think it's a combination of:
- being the sort of thing that Kojima would do. PT was intended to look like an indie game (https://mobile.twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/499833281886420992) Pretending to be an indie developer (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_3jF1ijPnPQ)
- some funny coincidences like the timeline, the name, similar genre
- terrible timing: silent hill being heavily rumored for a while, and the Konami shop literally has been teasing new Silent Hill merchandise over the past few days.
- there also seems to be a few people that are egging it on ( a couple of weird YouTube channels that seem to be hinting towards the game).  

The end result is either you have the most convoluted ARG ever, or you have what feels like an unexplainable number of coincidences.  


The one issue is a lot of the coincidences are pretty easy to explain, particularly by the developer being inspired by Kojima.  
The other issue is that for an ARG to be so convoluted and taking 6 years of planning, it feels almost idiotic.  It would simultaneously feel incredibly well planned and horribly planned.  
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 21, 2021, 02:37 PM
Team Real seems to be dying down.  Which is good.
I think a few days ago, the Era poll was like 45/42 with the rest undecided, with Fake barely leading.  Now it's sitting at 53/34.8, with Real dropping.

Maybe the dev won't be affected too much, when reality sets in.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Xevross on Jun 21, 2021, 04:09 PM
The dev going quiet and letting this die down is probably the best thing to do here.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jun 23, 2021, 06:19 PM
Abandoned-trailerapp lanceert dinsdag op PS5, aankondiging via Keighley volgt | Nieuws | Gamer.nl (https://gamer.nl/artikelen/nieuws/abandoned-trailerapp-lanceert-dinsdag-op-ps5-aankondiging-via-keighley-volgt/)

Dev is trying to get people to understand he's not Kojima but no one cares.

Will get more info on 22.
Did we get more info?
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: Legend on Jun 23, 2021, 06:24 PM
Did we get more info?
Was delayed, but at this point every new detail has confirmed it's a real indie game.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: darkknightkryta on Jun 25, 2021, 05:04 PM
Poor guy, his game is going to get reemed for not being Kojima.
Title: Re: Abandoned announced for PS5
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jun 25, 2021, 06:36 PM
Poor guy, his game is going to get reemed for not being Kojima.
I actual think this is amazing publicity.  Yeah there will be a lot flack, some people are really upset ;D , but a lot more people are now aware of this game.