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Off-Topic Community / Re: When will AI first discove...
Last post by Legend - Today at 03:16 AM
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Off-Topic Community / Re: Starship flight 5
Last post by Legend - Today at 02:47 AM






The scale is just so crazy. It's still going so fast when the bottom first reaches the tower and yet it perfectly stops itself at the right time. The little rails on each side have suspension so that's why they move down once the engines shut down. Their lack of motion up till that point is a good sign that the landing was practically perfect. The big booster movements as it came in were probably to guarantee it wouldn't hit anything important if the engines failed before the last few seconds.

And here is the top of the booster with people if you haven't seen it before.
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Off-Topic Community / Re: When will AI first discove...
Last post by Legend - Yesterday at 07:16 PM
maybe my view is off base but my thoughts are,...

....AI is at least at some level attempting to recreate the human brain.   to a certain extent they have.   but the brain is much, much more powerful than what today's silicon can do even with our large datacenters.   a true leap in AI to be more human like probably isn't all that possible until a huge leap in computation power happens and with moore's law dead there is no clear path to the kind of leap required.   solvable someday maybe but not soon.
I wouldn't say current AI is attempting to recreate the human brain. Neural nets may have been inspired by biology but they really are incredibly different. Large language models like chatGPT for example work in a very engineered way and and their quality is very dependent on their architecture.

First LLMs convert every input into a series of tokens. They are either word chunks or entire words, but each token is encoded as a direction in 1,000+ dimension space. Then the token's position in the input is also encoded as a direction and that is added on top, slightly shifting the token's direction.

The big breakthrough that enabled modern AI is that the system then goes through and compares every single token against every other token. For example the AI might see a token for "berry" at the 20th position and compare it with "dog" at the 2,000th position. There isn't really anything interesting to be learned here, but the AI still compares both tokens and then slightly modifies both tokens. It does this for every single token combination, and then it does it again, and again, and again. The slight modifications to each token allow information to diffuse through the whole input. Eventually after a specific amount of repetitions depending on the AI, it has finished. The tokens have all been transformed to contain useful information and one specific token has been transformed into a prediction of what comes next. That token is "cleaned up" with one last pass through a neural net and then it can be presented to the user.

That's all to say that current AI imo is still closer to a calculator than a human brain. It has the potential to eclipse us in many areas while still running on inferior hardware.
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Off-Topic Community / Re: General Politics Thread
Last post by kitler53 - Yesterday at 06:43 PM
stunningly crazy to me:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/14/north-carolina-hurricane-helene-fema-armed-militia-threat


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According to an email obtained by the Washington Post, a US Forest Service official sent out a message warning that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (Fema) "has advised all federal responders Rutherford County, NC, to stand down and evacuate the county immediately".

The message said that soldiers with the national guard "had come across x2 trucks of armed militia saying there were out hunting FEMA".
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Anti-government sentiment and disinformation have spread far beyond Appalachia, with the Republican candidate, Donald Trump, accused of echoing misinformation for political gain. Some Republicans have even claimed the US government can control the weather, triggering widespread condemnation, especially by local Republican figures.
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In remarks to a North Carolina church congregation on Sunday, the vice-president, Kamala Harris, issued a veiled condemnation of the phenomenon.

"There are some who are not acting in the spirit of community and I am speaking of those who have been literally not telling the truth, lying, about people who are working hard to help those in need. Spreading disinformation when the truth and fact are required.

"The problem," Harris added, is that "it's making it harder to get people lifesaving information if they're led to believe they cannot trust. And that is the pain of it all, because the idea that those in need are somehow being convinced that the forces are working against them in a way that they would not seek aid."
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Gaming Community / Re: The Music Thread
Last post by kitler53 - Yesterday at 06:30 PM
an "artist you may like" recommendation most certainly due to the large amount of gracie abrams and lizzy mcalpine i listen to these days but it seems to be a good recommendation all the same. 





i see alaska has like 23 million views so clearly she is already popular and i'm the last to know.   i'm okay with that.
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Off-Topic Community / Re: When will AI first discove...
Last post by kitler53 - Yesterday at 06:23 PM
That's what I think too kitler. So far every use of AI has been like a tool.

These AI people seem to think that will change soon. After trying OpenAI's new model, I really doubt Anthropic will pull that off in 2 years. It's still very stupid.

Maybe xAI will pull their thing off.
maybe my view is off base but my thoughts are,...

....AI is at least at some level attempting to recreate the human brain.   to a certain extent they have.   but the brain is much, much more powerful than what today's silicon can do even with our large datacenters.   a true leap in AI to be more human like probably isn't all that possible until a huge leap in computation power happens and with moore's law dead there is no clear path to the kind of leap required.   solvable someday maybe but not soon.
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Gaming Community / Re: PS5 |OT| now with PlayStat...
Last post by kitler53 - Yesterday at 06:19 PM
i think most of the bad views early was sticker shock.   i think switch 2 is going to give people sticker shock as well even if it's not a $700 device,.. it's not going to be $300 either.  people have just not adjusted to the fact tech isn't getting the massive price decreases over time that it used to from moore's law.   it's part of why i question if the ps6 is even needed.  to get more we have to pay more and with graphic where they are at i dunno if it is worth it.   ps5/pro could really be good enough for another 10 years.
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Off-Topic News Discussion / Re: We, Robot (presentation ab...
Last post by Legend - Yesterday at 05:09 PM
Just ask how many r's are in the word strawberry.  
Gpt4o fixed that a few months ago. We are doomed!

Actually thinking about that though, I wonder if Tesla's models will be the end of tokens in ai. Tesla AI, as far as I understand it, works on raw pixels. It's millions of times more data input than chatgpt can handle. Chatgpt type llms with that type of input would allow them to read letter by letter no problem.
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Off-Topic Community / Re: When will AI first discove...
Last post by Legend - Yesterday at 04:57 PM
AI pretty commonly has springs where there is a ton of excitement for advancement. A lot of funding happens.

Then reality sets in and it becomes clear that a lot of these issues are even more challenging than we think.  

AI Winter


AI is pretty fascinating right now. It is simultaneously leaps and bounds ahead of anything I've ever done anything with, and yet at the same time has some pretty wild deficits.

It'll be interesting to see if we continue to see crazy progress over the next couple years. Or if it ends up being that a lot of these problems are still a decade or more away from actually being resolved.
GPT4 is 1.5 years old. At least for me, I'm not sure if we're coming up on winter or if it's just been too long since a true next gen model has released.

xAI is the one to watch imo. They built and released a gpt4+ level ai in a year so will that speed continue or will they hit a roadblock? Do gpt5 and up models just take too many resources to train in a realistic amount of time?
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Captcha is dead. No way to tell humans and AI apart with simple tests anymore.
Just ask how many r's are in the word strawberry.  
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