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Title: NPD December 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 12, 2017, 10:23 PM
Overall



Hardware (By Units)


* PS4 Pro sold 238k units
** XB1S > 1209k

Software (By Revenue)

December


* No digital sales included

December by Platform

(http://i.imgur.com/VwrlcCX.jpg)

Full Year



Software (By Units)



Archive

2016: Jan (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=3229.0) Feb (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=3283.0) Mar (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=3573.0) Apr (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=3685.0) May (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=3790.0) Jun (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=3974.msg171711#msg171711) Jul (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=4045.msg174121#msg174121) Aug (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=4162.0) Sep (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=4317.0) Oct (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=4431.0) Nov (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=4505.0)
2015: Jan (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=1569.0) Feb (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=1786.0) Mar (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=1957.0) Apr (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=2051.0) May (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=2286.0) Jun (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=2505.0) Jul (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=2599.0) Aug (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=2660.0) Sep (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=2765.0) Oct (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=2954.0) Nov (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=3024) Dec (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=3163.0)
2014:                      Apr (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=171.0) May (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=269.0) Jun (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=391.0) Jul (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=578.0) Aug (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=894.msg38728#msg38728) Sep (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=1047.msg45875#msg45875) Oct (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=1244.0) Nov (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=1386.0) Dec (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=1452.msg63685#msg63685)
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results (Soon or at least some PR)
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 12, 2017, 10:46 PM
My prediction on GAF is very pessimistic compared to the aggregate.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results (Soon or at least some PR)
Post by: kitler53 on Jan 12, 2017, 10:48 PM
i predict switch will do very, very badly.  a disaster.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results (Soon or at least some PR)
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 12, 2017, 11:04 PM
PlayStation 4 was the top-selling home console in December in the United States | GamesBeat | Games | by Jeff Grubb (http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/12/playstation-4-was-the-top-selling-home-console-in-december-in-the-united-states/)
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 12, 2017, 11:07 PM
PlayStation 4 was the top-selling home console in December in the United States | GamesBeat | Games | by Jeff Grubb (http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/12/playstation-4-was-the-top-selling-home-console-in-december-in-the-united-states/)
Expected.

BTW

Xbox One is up yoy or they just spin with sales overall.

"December was the biggest month ever for Xbox One sales in the U.S., and Xbox One was the only [current-generation] console with year-over-year growth, according to NPD,"
"In addition, Xbox One was the top-selling console over the second half of 2016, following the announcement of Xbox One S at E3."
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1
Post by: GribbleGrunger on Jan 12, 2017, 11:09 PM
Ok, Amazon could be back on track. I'm not going to assume it is for a fact yet but if Jan is right too then I think it's safe to say things are back to normal
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1
Post by: Mmm_fish_tacos on Jan 12, 2017, 11:15 PM
Xbox One was the top-selling console over the second half of 2016,
By what? 5k? MS will never learn.

Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 12, 2017, 11:21 PM
By what? 5k? MS will never learn.


The issue lol is MS saying that won the second half that means they lost the year.

It is a shameless comment.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Xevross on Jan 12, 2017, 11:25 PM
PS4 < 1,582,000
XB1 > 1,376,000

XB1 v PS4 gap July - October 2016

267K

November gap

~167K

From GAF

So December gap must be less than 100k
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Legend on Jan 12, 2017, 11:39 PM
I hope TLG sold good.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 12, 2017, 11:44 PM
I hope TLG sold good.
Next week bro :P
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 12, 2017, 11:45 PM
Well, my GAF prediction is absolutely iced :P
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 13, 2017, 12:03 AM
Well, my GAF prediction is absolutely iced :P
How many you predicted... I was low to both (1200k and 1100k I guess).
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 13, 2017, 12:10 AM
How many you predicted... I was low to both (1200k and 1100k I guess).
You call that low? I predicted 900K XB1 and 950K PS4.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 13, 2017, 12:14 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/LkeusqX.jpg)
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd511/RyanHasGIFS/GIFS/313m3x4.gif)
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 13, 2017, 12:16 AM
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Max King of the Wild on Jan 13, 2017, 01:37 AM
And I think at this point Xbox stops being as competitive due to Scalebound's announcement and nothing till the end of the year.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jan 13, 2017, 01:56 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/LkeusqX.jpg)
(http://i1223.photobucket.com/albums/dd511/RyanHasGIFS/GIFS/313m3x4.gif)
Fake? Hard to call lol
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 13, 2017, 02:29 AM
Fake? Hard to call lol
Lol, it's fake. I just wanted to share it because it made me spit out my drink.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Kerotan on Jan 13, 2017, 02:51 AM
Great win for the ps4. Finishes 2016 around 350k up. 2017 should start off with the gap further increasing considering the ps4 has a vastly superior release schedule for the first 6 months.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 13, 2017, 12:35 PM
I did the math with Aqua data.

PS4 lead this month needs to be lower than 160k.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: darkknightkryta on Jan 13, 2017, 08:33 PM
I think the slim and pro will get a price cut next October.  Or whenever Scorpio releases.  I don't think Sony can coast at 299 anymore.  250 next year then 199 at year 6.  Ps3 will be discontinued by then I suspect.  So the ps4 will replace the ps3 for good.  Ps5 reveal for year 7 and release at year 8.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 18, 2017, 08:40 PM
NPD figures put Xbox and PlayStation neck-and-neck in Dec 2016, with 1.5m Xbox consoles sold | Windows Central (http://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-playstation-neck-and-neck-npd-dec-2016)

XB1: 1.511m
Ps4: 1.568m

PS4 Pro: 238K
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Xevross on Jan 18, 2017, 08:45 PM
Very close month!

Gap between PS4 and XB1 was about 360k this year. What was it the last couple of years?
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 18, 2017, 08:50 PM
Very close month!

Gap between PS4 and XB1 was about 360k this year. What was it the last couple of years?
2014 - 310K gap
2015 - 800K gap
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Xevross on Jan 18, 2017, 09:00 PM
2014 - 310K gap
2015 - 800K gap
So similar to 2014 then. You would have expected better at the start of the year
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 18, 2017, 09:06 PM
Pro sold 238k... probably over 500k in US.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 #1, XB1 > 1376k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 18, 2017, 09:07 PM
Pro sold 238k... probably over 500k in US.
I think Windows Central had it selling ~300K in November, so it has sold over 500K. That's very good for a luxury device.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 19, 2017, 04:56 PM
Thread updates waiting TOP10.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 19, 2017, 09:18 PM
Windows Central article updated... > 80% XB1S.

Xbox One S: >1,209,000
Xbox One: <302,000
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 19, 2017, 09:46 PM
Windows Central article updated... > 80% XB1S.

Xbox One S: >1,209,000
Xbox One: <302,000
That's quite a lot of OG XB1's...
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Kerotan on Jan 19, 2017, 11:15 PM
2016 was a great victory for the ps4. Microsoft tried hard and came up short again
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: DerNebel on Jan 19, 2017, 11:50 PM
Wow, I'm genuinely shocked, FFXV managed to make the top 10 for the Year in the US with only one month of sales.

(http://cdn.gamer-network.net/2017/articles/1/8/8/0/0/0/5/14848677239.jpg/EG11/resize/714x-1)
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 12:01 AM
(http://i.picpar.com/JLkc.png)
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jan 20, 2017, 12:13 AM
(http://i.picpar.com/JLkc.png)
Very good for ff! Tlg made it
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: darkknightkryta on Jan 20, 2017, 12:30 AM
I wonder how much FF 15 sold on Xbox.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 12:49 AM
I wonder how much FF 15 sold on Xbox.
It sold 19% more than FFXIII, which puts it around 1.57 million. Assuming the ratio in the US is the same as the UK, then it would be around 1.2 million for the PS4 and 300K for the XB1.

Long story short, the XB1 version sold over the minimum print order, sparing Microsoft from Square's wrath :P
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 20, 2017, 12:56 AM
Nvm.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 01:02 AM
Console SW down YOY by 12% (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228716565&postcount=340)
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: darkknightkryta on Jan 20, 2017, 01:46 AM
It sold 19% more than FFXIII, which puts it around 1.57 million. Assuming the ratio in the US is the same as the UK, then it would be around 1.2 million for the PS4 and 300K for the XB1.

Long story short, the XB1 version sold over the minimum print order, sparing Microsoft from Square's wrath :P
That's what I was eventually going to ask.  XD
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 02:44 AM
Anyone noticed that neither Gears 4 nor Dead Rising 4 were in the XB1 Top 10 games?
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jan 20, 2017, 02:54 AM
Console SW down YOY by 12% (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228716565&postcount=340)
With digital?
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 03:05 AM
With digital?
I think it's retail only.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jan 20, 2017, 03:07 AM
NPD doesn't track most digital sales (I don't think).  
So pretty likely, it is 12% down for retail software.    
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jan 20, 2017, 03:10 AM
NPD doesn't track most digital sales (I don't think).  
So pretty likely, it is 12% down for retail software.    
Probably not down that much (if at all)  if we include digital sales
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 20, 2017, 03:27 AM
Probably not down that much (if at all)  if we include digital sales
Most of digital is included... only first-party is not included I guess.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 20, 2017, 04:53 AM
Looks like MS is sharing digital sales too... Only Sony and Nintendo are not sharing digital sales.

(http://i.imgur.com/VwrlcCX.jpg)
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: DerNebel on Jan 20, 2017, 06:13 AM
Oh so MS is sharing digital data? Neat! Sony should start doing that as well.

Edit: Just saw it on Gaf, it's apparently a mistake
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: DerNebel on Jan 20, 2017, 09:48 AM
NeoGAF - View Single Post -  NPD Sales Results For December 2016 (and the year's best selling games) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228727958&postcount=141)

Quote
Dead RisIng 4 and The Last Guardian came and no body cared
 315 and 250
 
Can someone ask the guy if the Dead Rising 4 numbers include digital? I'm guessing they do.

Still 250k in the US for TLG is not awful, it's actually more than I expected.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 20, 2017, 11:39 AM
Better than I expected.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 20, 2017, 01:10 PM
I guess I updated with everything.

FFXV split is 75/25 btw.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 02:41 PM
I guess I updated with everything.

FFXV split is 75/25 btw.
It's about 71/39. John Harker said XB1 version sales are around 450K (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228730642&postcount=207).
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jan 20, 2017, 03:14 PM
It's about 71/39. John Harker said XB1 version sales are around 450K (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228730642&postcount=207).
71/29 then. Surprisingly good for XB1.

Oh and Tlg sales are good without digital. Probably 300k+ with digital included
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 03:20 PM
71/29 then. Surprisingly good for XB1.

Oh and Tlg sales are good without digital. Probably 300k+ with digital included
TLG is doing much better than Ico and SOTC.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: darkknightkryta on Jan 20, 2017, 03:25 PM
TLG is doing much better than Ico and SOTC.
Probably sit at 2 million world wide once it's all said and done.  Which I would assume Sony is expecting.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 05:39 PM
Viewing Single Post - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=228757301)

John Harker thinks digital sales make up another 200K sales.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jan 20, 2017, 06:27 PM
Viewing Single Post - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=228757301)

John Harker thinks digital sales make up another 200K sales.
For FFXV, right?
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 07:28 PM
For FFXV, right?
Yes
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 09:20 PM
gamrConnect Forums - View Post (http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8262909)

Quote
UPD :  450K for XBO was incl. DD numbers.

 Final Fantasy XV ~1.77 (1.57M retail + ~200K digital)

 PS4  ~1.32M

 XBO ~450K

 http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228757301&postcount=432 (http://neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228757301&postcount=432)
 
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: ethomaz on Jan 20, 2017, 09:29 PM
It's about 71/39. John Harker said XB1 version sales are around 450K (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=228730642&postcount=207).
Including digital.

That is yet 75/25.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 09:30 PM
Including digital.

That is yet 75/25.
Yeah, I saw Sh1nn clarifying that on Chartz.
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Jan 20, 2017, 10:24 PM
So Pro has sold over 500k ltd in the US alone? Should be around the 1 million mark worldwide. Very nice!
Title: Re: NPD Dezember 2016 Results: PS4 1568k (Pro 238k), XB1 1511k
Post by: Aura7541 on Jan 20, 2017, 11:08 PM
So Pro has sold over 500k ltd in the US alone? Should be around the 1 million mark worldwide. Very nice!
Yeah, making up 18% of total PS4 sales in the US from November - December is good. It's more impressive when the Pro managed to sell consistently even though it didn't have the benefit of 2 month's worth of preorders in December.

The Pro should start making up a larger proportion of PS4 sales because holiday season sales are very dependent on entry price. Thus, there should theoretically be proportionally more core consumers during the 'pre-season' months.