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Title: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 03, 2022, 11:43 PM
Not confirmed:



Confirmed:
Batgirl movie dead (https://www.thewrap.com/batgirl-movie-dead-warner-bros-discovery-has-no-plans-to-release-nearly-finished-90-million-film/)
Warner removes movies from HBO Max (https://variety.com/2022/digital/news/hbo-max-removes-warner-bros-films-streaming-exclusive-1235332258/)





Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Aug 03, 2022, 11:51 PM
Wow
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: kitler53 on Aug 04, 2022, 12:05 AM
That's like,.. pretty terrible news for HBO no?


also,. Why is it that when I first typed hbo in all lower case my immediate thought was it was unrecognizable and no one would know what I'm typing…
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 04, 2022, 12:16 AM
I wonder if Warner Bros Interactive will be back on the menu...
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: BananaKing on Aug 04, 2022, 12:44 AM
Wow I thought HBO was a success? Or is this the transition to subscription streaming a failure?
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 04, 2022, 12:45 AM
That's like,.. pretty terrible news for HBO no?
It's bizarre to me. They seemed like they were an OK Netflix competitor. But Discovery seems intent on shutting HBO Max down.  


It's hard to believe they just shelved two basically completed movies because the tax write off was preferable to spending more on marketing.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Aug 04, 2022, 01:04 AM
It's bizarre to me. They seemed like they were an OK Netflix competitor. But Discovery seems intent on shutting HBO Max down.  


It's hard to believe they just shelved two basically completed movies because the tax write off was preferable to spending more on marketing.
I heard the batgirl movie was bad anyway

Must suck for the crew
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: Legend on Aug 04, 2022, 03:24 AM
Wow I thought HBO was a success? Or is this the transition to subscription streaming a failure?
I heard nothing but good things about them. I feel this is other elements in the company having different priorities.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: darkknightkryta on Aug 04, 2022, 11:19 PM
Apparently HBO Max isn't being scrapped but retooled?
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 04, 2022, 11:30 PM
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 06, 2022, 01:22 AM
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: Legend on Aug 06, 2022, 04:26 AM

Expected, but lame.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: kitler53 on Aug 06, 2022, 04:58 AM
not sure i've ever heard of discovery+.   went to the website to see what they offer.  the marketing picture listing all the tiles of shows they have,.. i've never heard of a single show in it.   

hard pass.  brings no value to HBO.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: nnodley on Aug 06, 2022, 06:59 PM
discovery+ is a really good deal for a streaming app. Like $7 for everything from HGTV to tlc to history channel and more.  I watch a few shows on HGTV and some history stuff so its a pretty good app for me.  But hbo max merging is the oddest thing i've seen ever.  
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 15, 2022, 06:59 PM
HBO Max Layoffs: Casey Bloys Reshapes Leadership Structure - The Hollywood Reporter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/hbo-max-layoffs-casey-bloys-reshapes-leadership-structure-1235199096/)

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As expected, layoffs have hit Casey Bloys' HBO Max team.

An estimated 14 percent of Bloys' team -- an estimated 70 people -- have been let go as part of the workforce reduction following the merger of Warner Media with Discovery. The moves are the latest step in cost-cutting for the combined Warner Bros. Discovery under CEO David Zaslav.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery making lots of changes
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 18, 2022, 06:13 PM




Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery: consolidating Cartoon Network Studios and Warner Bros Animation
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 12, 2022, 07:13 PM
Source (https://www.cartoonbrew.com/studios/wbd-merge-cartoon-network-studios-warner-bros-animation-222123.html)

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In a company-wide memo, chairman Channing Dungey told staff that the company plans to fully consolidate its tv animation divisions, merging Warner Bros. Animation (WBA) and Cartoon Network Studios (CNS). Going forward, Sam Register will continue as head of WBA and CNS, as well as Hanna-Barbera Studios Europe, the latter of which will continue to operate independently from the other two.

According to the memo, all three labels will continue to exist, but perhaps more in name than in action. Both development and production at WBA and CNS will now be merged, extending on the cross-studio teams that were already in place for programming, casting, legal, and business affairs, and artist relations. This means that Cartoon Network Studios no longer has any independent say on either creative or operational matters, something that has never happened before in its existence.

Under boss David Zaslav, Warner Bros. Discovery has expressed a desire to focus more heavily on IP across all its businesses, so now that CNS has to share development and production resources with WBA, it's difficult to imagine a future in which the studio's original animation output can match what it has been in the past.
Maybe not as bad as it was spoken about:
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery: consolidating Cartoon Network Studios and Warner Bros Animation
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 26, 2022, 12:36 PM

Based on Era, good news for once.

Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery: consolidating Cartoon Network Studios and Warner Bros Animation
Post by: nnodley on Oct 26, 2022, 01:32 PM
yeah DC movies should be under good direction with James Gunn
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 19, 2022, 07:12 PM
I'm going to call this the official WBD thread, at least while they're making so many changes.

This is a rumor:
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: nnodley on Dec 19, 2022, 07:34 PM
henry cavill should be in that list, imo.  Not sure why they couldn't just reboot his superman
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: Legend on Dec 19, 2022, 07:35 PM
So reboot after aquaman 3?

And why Viola Davis? She's great in other roles but not suicide squad.


henry cavill should be in that list, imo.  Not sure why they couldn't just reboot his superman
Yeah I bet superman and wonderwoman have similar struggles to batman post Bale.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 19, 2022, 07:46 PM
henry cavill should be in that list, imo.  Not sure why they couldn't just reboot his superman
They want someone younger, but yeah I feel like he's a pretty solid superman.




So reboot after aquaman 3?

And why Viola Davis? She's great in other roles but not suicide squad.
A lot of DC fans love her.

Not exactly sure why.

r/DCComics: Can we all agree that Viola kills it as Amanda Waller? (https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/x9ktw6/discussion_can_we_all_agree_that_viola_kills_it/)
APPRECIATION: I think Viola Davis as Amanda Waller is the best casting to come out of the DCEU. (https://www.reddit.com/r/DC_Cinematic/comments/o817fz/appreciation_i_think_viola_davis_as_amanda_waller/)

Both posts with lots of upvotes, but I haven't seen The Suicide Squad and I don't remember the first very well.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: kitler53 on Dec 19, 2022, 11:26 PM
if you're going to reboot why not just recast everyone?  

I love Margot Robbie but even she has been playing Harley for a long time.  start over.  Anya taylor-joy maybe.  

hell, focus on some new characters even.  Aquaman is just never going to be that compelling...

I did a quick Google search for DC characters.  only looked at page 1 and amethyst and beast boy both already sound more interesting. 
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 20, 2022, 01:04 AM
if you're going to reboot why not just recast everyone?  

I love Margot Robbie but even she has been playing Harley for a long time.  start over.  Anya taylor-joy maybe.  

hell, focus on some new characters even.  Aquaman is just never going to be that compelling...

I did a quick Google search for DC characters.  only looked at page 1 and amethyst and beast boy both already sound more interesting.
Not sure how much you've been following the DC stuff.
James Gunn took over the DC stuff. He seems to be salvaging his own stuff (like Suicide Squad) and rebooting most of the other things.

It sounded like they also wanted to include The Batman as that's been pretty well loved.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: kitler53 on Dec 20, 2022, 01:50 AM
Not sure how much you've been following the DC stuff.
James Gunn took over the DC stuff. He seems to be salvaging his own stuff (like Suicide Squad) and rebooting most of the other things.

It sounded like they also wanted to include The Batman as that's been pretty well loved.
not following it much.  ...and what I've read doesn't always land with me since I've skipped everything.  ..even moreso than marvel.

my 2 favorites are spiderman and batman so I want DC to do well but most of their stuff just looks Soo bad.

the batman trilogy with bale are some of my favorite movies ever but Affleck and Patterson were both bad.   maybe Patterson himself wasn't terrible but the movie was.

I like gal Godot as wonder women but 1984 was terrible.

Margot was fantastic as Harley but suicide squad was meh.

superman is just a terrible superhero and will be redeemable. 

anything else I've skipped.  the trailers just looked bad and characters like Aquaman and flash just aren't compelling to me.

Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 20, 2022, 03:02 AM
I'm going to call this the official WBD thread, at least while they're making so many changes.

This is a rumor:

Rumor debunked.


Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 20, 2022, 03:31 AM
People on Era thought it was plausible.
Oh well.  

I'm more of a DC fan than a Marvel fan.
I would look forward to better Superman, Flash, Wonder woman movies, among others.  
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: Legend on Dec 20, 2022, 05:15 AM
Rumor debunked.



Unless superman never joins the rest, how could they not recast?
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: kitler53 on Dec 20, 2022, 05:51 AM
personally I wish superhero movies would go to the "James bond" format. 

recast whenever but it's not really a "reboot" of the franchise.  enough already with the retelling of origin stories.  just make a stand alone movie with a plot that's cool.  don't worry about continuity.  fudge off already with cross overs. 
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 20, 2022, 01:20 PM
personally I wish superhero movies would go to the "James bond" format.

recast whenever but it's not really a "reboot" of the franchise.  enough already with the retelling of origin stories.  just make a stand alone movie with a plot that's cool.  don't worry about continuity.  fudge off already with cross overs.
The good news, the new Superman is not an origin story.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 21, 2022, 03:05 PM
Adult animated series Velma gets release date January 12th, 2023 (https://tvline.com/2022/12/20/velma-release-date-hbo-max-mindy-kaling/)
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Apr 12, 2023, 05:32 PM
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Apr 12, 2023, 05:34 PM
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Apr 12, 2023, 05:35 PM
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: BananaKing on Apr 12, 2023, 06:17 PM

This will flop. All these new or rebooted series usually fail. Only one that really ever worked was fraser  

Joey failed, how I met your father is... did it get cancelled yet? And the 90s show sucked.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Apr 12, 2023, 06:44 PM
This will flop. All these new or rebooted series usually fail. Only one that really ever worked was fraser 

Joey failed, how I met your father is... did it get cancelled yet? And the 90s show sucked.
I feel like some of these are very different things. I don't think How I Met Your Father is related to the original show?

By that note, I could say there are some successful spin off shows.
Young Sheldon seems to be pretty successful. Better Call Saul.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: kitler53 on Apr 12, 2023, 07:02 PM
This will flop. All these new or rebooted series usually fail. Only one that really ever worked was fraser  

Joey failed, how I met your father is... did it get cancelled yet? And the 90s show sucked.
oh fudge you,.. i liked it a lot.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: nnodley on Apr 12, 2023, 07:13 PM
oh fudge you,.. i liked it a lot.
i agree.  I liked it a lot too.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 27, 2023, 08:36 PM
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: BananaKing on Jun 27, 2023, 08:45 PM
i agree.  I liked it a lot too.
I've yet to watch it. I heard its atrocious.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: Legend on Jun 27, 2023, 09:05 PM
Phoebe Dynevor was good in Bridgerton so I'm sad she didn't get it.

Nicholas Hoult was good in The Great but he would have made a hilariously bad superman. Bullet dodged.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: Legend on Jul 24, 2023, 07:39 PM
Robert Blair Departing Warner Bros. Discovery After 25 Years - Variety (https://variety.com/2023/tv/global/robert-blair-warner-bros-discovery-1235678262/)
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 27, 2023, 07:34 PM


Movie was supposedly cancelled, and then leaked.

And now suddenly coming out.

What a strange ride.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 10, 2023, 08:51 PM
No actors from the Justice League are reprising their role in the James Gunn DCU (https://variety.com/2023/film/news/aquaman-2-jason-momoa-drunk-claims-amber-heard-cut-scenes-elon-musk-letter-1235747775/amp/)
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: Legend on Oct 10, 2023, 09:03 PM
No actors from the Justice League are reprising their role in the James Gunn DCU (https://variety.com/2023/film/news/aquaman-2-jason-momoa-drunk-claims-amber-heard-cut-scenes-elon-musk-letter-1235747775/amp/)

Isn't the actor part old news?

Mamoa dressing on set as Depp is a bit more odd if true.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 10, 2023, 09:22 PM
Isn't the actor part old news?
I think some people were still assuming that Momoa would be Aquaman.

Gal Gadot had a weird thing where people thought she was coming back, and then she wasn't.

The rest were confirmed a while ago.  
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: Legend on Jan 30, 2024, 05:44 AM


That's good. House of Dragon was great.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Mar 07, 2024, 04:52 PM




lol  

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"Batman can't kill is canon. And I'm like, 'okay, the first thing I wanna do when you say that is I wanna see what happens'. And they go, 'well don't put him in a situation where he has to kill someone'.

"You're protecting your god in a weird way, right? You're making your god irrelevant if he can't be in that situation. He has to now deal with that. If he does do that what does that mean? What does it tell you, does he stand up to it? Does he survive that as a god? As your god, can Batman survive that?"
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He also compared it to his other comic book film Watchmen and its mature story. "Once you've lost your virginity to this f**king movie and then you come and say to me something about like, 'My superhero wouldn't do that'. I'm like 'Are you serious?' I'm like down the f**king road on that. It's a cool point of view to be like 'my heroes are still innocent. My heroes didn't f**king lie to America. My heroes didn't embezzle money from their corporations. My heroes didn't commit any atrocities'. That's cool. But you're living in a f**king dream world."
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: kitler53 on Mar 07, 2024, 05:05 PM
well that's a dumb take.   

i like things like "the boys" which puts a more realistic spin on super heros by making them "people" instead of completely altruistic.    ...but batman not killing anyone is core cannon for his character.   if he goes around killing people than he's just a vigilante and not a hero.  

how about this snyder,..  if you can't make a batman movie without murder than you are "irrelevant".   step aside and give the franchise to a good director.   christopher nolan made the 3 greatest batman movies ever and he didn't need to make batman a murderer to do it.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: Legend on Mar 07, 2024, 05:42 PM
Snyder already stepped aside, that's why he made those comments.

Also batman kills a few people in various movies. I thought he was just like most modern super heroes where killing is no bueno but it still happens from time to time.
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: kitler53 on Mar 07, 2024, 07:22 PM
Snyder already stepped aside, that's why he made those comments.

Also batman kills a few people in various movies. I thought he was just like most modern super heroes where killing is no bueno but it still happens from time to time.
no really.   so like i googled it and found a website that claims to document the times batman killed someone.   you get a bunch of stuff like this:



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Batman Begins (2005) - The League of Shadows

Bruce Wayne's journey to becoming Batman begins on a worldwide trek, where he lives and breathes the underworld. He is approached by Ra's al Ghul whose teachings help Bruce turn fear against his enemies. The master and student defer in their definition of justice, however, leading to Bruce defying the League of Shadows and rite of passage: killing a criminal. Bruce creates a diversion by setting their temple on fire to escape. Members of the League of Shadows lost their lives to the flames and explosion on the mountainside.
that's not really "killing" them.   batman has been in many circumstances where he "failed to save" someone but that's not the same thing as putting a gun to someones head and pulling the trigger.   yes some of batman's actions have resulted in the death of a person but the important part is none of those actions were made with the intent to kill someone.  





Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: Legend on Mar 07, 2024, 07:35 PM
Is that not the same as spiderman and others?
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: the-pi-guy on Mar 07, 2024, 07:38 PM
no really.   so like i googled it and found a website that claims to document the times batman killed someone.   you get a bunch of stuff like this:

that's not really "killing" them.   batman has been in many circumstances where he "failed to save" someone but that's not the same thing as putting a gun to someones head and pulling the trigger.   yes some of batman's actions have resulted in the death of a person but the important part is none of those actions were made with the intent to kill someone.  
Even that, there's quite a few fans who find that reasoning dubious.

Is that not the same as spiderman and others?
I've never seen Spider-man and others knock guns out of their (kind of) allies' hands.  


Nolan Batman:



Snyder Batman:
(https://preview.redd.it/why-doesnt-batman-just-kill-people-with-guns-is-he-stupid-v0-489zxmmcfdra1.jpg?auto=webp&s=3a28e5c3e9abfc15e4c096dd6afc039abed33373)
Title: Re: Warner Bros Discovery |OT| DC Reboot
Post by: kitler53 on Mar 07, 2024, 10:54 PM
Is that not the same as spiderman and others?
i mean, yeah kinda mostly.   there aren't too many in the original set of super heros (DC and marvel) that or going around killing in purpose.  pretty much all of them are altruistic.   it's just not cannon for them like it is for batman. 

(https://i.stack.imgur.com/ki0d4.jpg)

(https://kenpire.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/batman-guns-cowards.jpg)


(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/0-R4V7WaifWwxX2r-sOCtcO6C80=/0x0:1067x881/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1067x881):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/16003301/Bruce_Won_t_Kill_Joker.jpg)