This top area: http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?action=forum
We need to figure out what info should be displayed, and then figure out how to display it.
Info needed:
New posts
New quotes
Number of new posts?
Number of new quotes?
Has posted in the thread
thread has poll
ok thats scary lol
That's one pretty new icon .... ;D
ok thats scary lol
I'm testing out larger icons on the left.
They space out the threads more which Kitler requested and I like.
They also allow the far left icon to actually become valuable.
ah okay lol
I'm testing out larger icons on the left.
They space out the threads more which Kitler requested and I like.
They also allow the far left icon to actually become valuable.
I'd like it if it wasn't your face :P
I'd like it if it wasn't your face :P
I can replace it with my body.
I can replace it with my body.
Depends which part! ;)
Depends which part! ;)
Better?!? :)
No!
What? You don't like it :(
I've got some things. Give a sec
edt: eh...
I see stuff happened.
Use the 4 PS-buttons as icons!! Square, triangle, circle and cross. 8)
Use the 4 PS-buttons as icons!! Square, triangle, circle and cross. 8)
We need 10 icons though! Also we don't want to scare away non ps guys ;) (we can make that a custom theme :) )
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How's it look though?
Use the 4 PS-buttons as icons!! Square, triangle, circle and cross. 8)
We should give this option. :D
But not as default.
Looking good, mang
Looks weird now due to the black square inside the coloured squares
Looks weird now due to the black square inside the coloured squares
So what did you think looked best?
Like it is now looks good!
Like it is now looks good!
Alright!
I think the bar at the top of the table should be copied at the bottom as well. That way it encases the icons better. Agree?
When quoted it shows the amount of quotes in the reply/view collumn.
Clicking the new button takes you to the newest quote.
Looks good now.
Edit - I think the second icon is useless (http://vizioneck.com/forum/Themes/default/images/post/xx.gif)... it is the same for all posts... maybe it can be the old column instead this one... like (http://vizioneck.com/forum/Themes/default/images/topic/my_veryhot_poll.gif) (http://vizioneck.com/forum/Themes/default/images/topic/my_veryhot_post.gif)
I'm testing out larger icons on the left.
They space out the threads more which Kitler requested and I like.
They also allow the far left icon to actually become valuable.
always with the blaming of me. xD
anyways, i like the icons. pulls in your vizioneck art to the site with makes sense.
more suggestions:
1. kill the "new" icon thing at the end of the thread title. i hates it. clicking on those nice new icons it will take you to the newest post just like the "new" icon currently does or to the newest quote depending on thread status. clicking on the thread title takes you to the OP. a last post button exists in the lastest post column.
2. split the replies/views column into two. new/posts and new/views. populate with data like such: XX/YY where XX is the number of new posts and YY is the total post count. same with views.
3. i still have no idea what that second row of icons is for. for me it is always the same icon expect when it was your face. if it isn't getting use kill it to make more room for thread titles and other useful information.
Forgot what I said... it is my end issue :P
I need to fix that... it is not showing the icon based in what you choose in the thread.
We need 10 icons though!
The 4 buttons mentioned before + the 4 arrows from the d-pad and L1 and R1. :P
Also we don't want to scare away non ps guys ;)
I know, but you could perhaps mix Nintendo, SEGA, PlayStation and Xbox buttons? :D
(we can make that a custom theme :) )
I'll be waiting for that, greatness awaits!! 8)
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How's it look though?
Looks better then yesterday. :P
always with the blaming of me. xD
anyways, i like the icons. pulls in your vizioneck art to the site with makes sense.
more suggestions:
1. kill the "new" icon thing at the end of the thread title. i hates it. clicking on those nice new icons it will take you to the newest post just like the "new" icon currently does or to the newest quote depending on thread status. clicking on the thread title takes you to the OP. a last post button exists in the lastest post column.
2. split the replies/views column into two. new/posts and new/views. populate with data like such: XX/YY where XX is the number of new posts and YY is the total post count. same with views.
3. i still have no idea what that second row of icons is for. for me it is always the same icon expect when it was your face. if it isn't getting use kill it to make more room for thread titles and other useful information.
There is no difference between the new and thread title link... both send you to the first post you didn't read yet... it is the better... go to OP will happen if you don't read any post in this thread.
I like the "new" it is informative... I want a "quote" too in purple for example.
The second row is for the custom icon you choose for the thread... it is not working in front page... works in the others places... fix needed.
There is no difference between the new and thread title link... both send you to the first post you didn't read yet... it is the better... go to OP will happen if you don't read any post in this thread.
I like the "new" it is informative... I want a "quote" too in purple for example.
The second row is for the custom icon you choose for the thread... it is not working in front page... works in the others places... fix needed.
works enough for me. kill that ugly "new" tag. shot it in the head.
I'm testing out larger icons on the left.
They space out the threads more which Kitler requested and I like.
They also allow the far left icon to actually become valuable.
also, my suggestion was the increase the font of the thread title compared to the author. or maybe bold it. make the thread title more important than the author to make it easier to read.
always with the blaming of me. xD
anyways, i like the icons. pulls in your vizioneck art to the site with makes sense.
more suggestions:
1. kill the "new" icon thing at the end of the thread title. i hates it. clicking on those nice new icons it will take you to the newest post just like the "new" icon currently does or to the newest quote depending on thread status. clicking on the thread title takes you to the OP. a last post button exists in the lastest post column.
2. split the replies/views column into two. new/posts and new/views. populate with data like such: XX/YY where XX is the number of new posts and YY is the total post count. same with views.
3. i still have no idea what that second row of icons is for. for me it is always the same icon expect when it was your face. if it isn't getting use kill it to make more room for thread titles and other useful information.
1. I like the new tag. I'll make it optional :0
also, my suggestion was the increase the font of the thread title compared to the author. or maybe bold it. make the thread title more important than the author to make it easier to read.
Yes I know :)
Can anybody quote me here?
Can anybody quote me here?
No
Thanks :D
When you quote it is losing the Locked icon in the right side.
Thanks :D
When you quote it is losing the Locked icon in the right side.
Yes
Fixing it would be annoying though.
Yes
Fixed
Ohhhhhhh... I need a new quote :D
Ohhhhhhh... I need a new quote :D
You aren't getting one.
You aren't getting one.
:D
It is not working yet.
Yes
Fixing it would be annoying though.
Give it a sec
@Legend.
Are you updating the devforum too? I will work on it tomorrow... or maybe even today night :D
@Legend.
Are you updating the devforum too? I will work on it tomorrow... or maybe even today night :D
Right now since these changes need community feedback, no I'm not updating it.
However once we're finished yeah I'll copy the changes over. Should be obvious once I've done that ;)
Alright!
I think the bar at the top of the table should be copied at the bottom as well. That way it encases the icons better. Agree?
I do agree
You need to get rid of the old icons (+meaning of them) beneath the "Recent Forum topics"-column.
You need to get rid of the old icons (+meaning of them) beneath the "Recent Forum topics"-column.
Or update with the new icons?
:D
It is not working yet.
done
Sorry I was busy with something else.
Or update with the new icons?
Even better!! :D
done
Sorry I was busy with something else.
Thanks ;)
Thanks ;)
Hey the quote count isn't working though.
The $request is only retrieving one matching quote, not all of them.
The fudge happened to the "new" tag
The fudge happened to the "new" tag
I hid it. Let's see if we like not having it.
How do you guys like the larger font for the subject?
Me likey. A lot
I hid it. Let's see if we like not having it.
i like not having it!
can u resize the images to about half of what it is... makes the hot topics way too big
Everything is too big right now :( and I like the "new".
can u resize the images to about half of what it is... makes the hot topics way too big
Changed, though the text looks way too big now.
what about removing the icon and using a colored border around the info box instead... I guess that would be rather replacing the colored b/g with an image, but you could use yellow for new posts, and blue for replies, red for hot topics... or I dunno what cause i'm not sure at all what any of these symbols mean
Changed, though the text looks way too big now.
looks better but I see what you're saying as well
too small now..
what about removing the icon and using a colored border around the info box instead... I guess that would be rather replacing the colored b/g with an image, but you could use yellow for new posts, and blue for replies, red for hot topics... or I dunno what cause i'm not sure at all what any of these symbols mean
We tried something similar and it just looks horrible without redesigning the rest of the site with it.
Yellow means new post
Green means quote
Blue means sticky
Red means locked
Square means you have posted in the topic
Diamond means you have not posted in the topic.
That's how it looks with the titles being the old size.
That's how it looks with the titles being the old size.
too small. somewhere inbetween seems best imo.
The title size is good... you can increase a bit the icons if you wishes :D
We tried something similar and it just looks horrible without redesigning the rest of the site with it.
Yellow means new post
Green means quote
Blue means sticky
Red means locked
Square means you have posted in the topic
Diamond means you have not posted in the topic.
the blue really pops compared to the green you choose. make blue quotes and green stickies? i think the point of the color is to draw your eye to the most important threads and that blue is just,.. too sexy.
The title size is good... you can increase a bit the icons if you wishes :D
At least to me, the icons really feel like they need to be this size: 40px
the blue really pops compared to the green you choose. make blue quotes and green stickies? i think the point of the color is to draw your eye to the most important threads and that blue is just,.. too sexy.
We can switch them, but the blue "pin" icon is a problem then.
Get rid of those icons completely?
I liked the icons but I guess 30x30 or 35x35 is better... and the title text can a bit smaller.
I liked the icons but I guess 30x30 or 35x35 is better... and the title text can a bit smaller.
Back to 20px for icons.
You prefer this?
Back to 20px for icons.
You prefer this?
No. 30px or 35px... or maybe 25px.
No. 30px or 35px... or maybe 25px.
30px
we can switch them, but the blue "pin" icon is a problem then.
Get rid of those icons completely?
not sure that the pin icon being blue is that big of a deal. i don't think i'd drop that. i'm just saying,.. from a color wheel perspective green and yellow are very close so it can be difficult to distinguish them at a glance. blue is further away so it pops more.
(http://hgtv.sndimg.com/HGTV/2011/07/18/HGTV_Color-Wheel-Full_s4x3_lg.jpg)
also, i noticed you moved the first/last post icons together. daddy like but you might want to consider new art for them. the art is kind of hard to read. these are pretty universal,.. just as an example.
(http://www.large-icons.com/stock-icons/large-black/first-icon.gif) (http://www.large-icons.com/stock-icons/large-black/last-icon.gif)
I like that size ;)
And now let's go back to 40px and see if you like it even more ;)
And now let's go back to 40px and see if you like it even more ;)
I guess I don't like big things... I prefer the 30px and the title text a size down.
I guess I don't like big things... I prefer the 30px and the title text a size down.
The title is about as small as you can get it while still being noticiably larger than the other text.
I like the bigger icons because they space everything out a bit and make it less intimidating.
Plus they're still pretty efficient. With 40px icons we can fit 20 threads in the space it takes vgchartz to fit 17.
Also the post icons should be scaled with them. Hence my test with geoff.
Also the post icons should be scaled with them. Hence my test with geoff.
Just a question... I checked and the Hot Topics shows the actual post icon and not the thread icon... I can change that if you wish.
IMO I do like the old text size and the icons at 30px but that is me ;)
Just a question... I checked and the Hot Topics shows the actual post icon and not the thread icon... I can change that if you wish.
IMO I do like the old text size and the icons at 30px but that is me ;)
Yeah it shows the icon from the last post instead of the first post.
Changing that would be great. As long as you're just in sources than nothing I've changed matters.
I'm not really liking the yellow icons on the left that show if there's unread posts in a thread. I'm on a smartphone so I zoom in to read the posts, and the icons are too far off to be on the screen. I'd rather they were in the position of the old New tags. I'm also colorblind, so a change in shape or something would be really helpful on the icons as well.
I'm not really liking the yellow icons on the left that show if there's unread posts in a thread. I'm on a smartphone so I zoom in to read the posts, and the icons are too far off to be on the screen. I'd rather they were in the position of the old New tags. I'm also colorblind, so a change in shape or something would be really helpful on the icons as well.
Better?
Just a question... I checked and the Hot Topics shows the actual post icon and not the thread icon... I can change that if you wish.
IMO I do like the old text size and the icons at 30px but that is me ;)
As you can see, that might not be needed.
i dont understand this new design. why cant we just be like the old design but when ever somebody quotes you you got a blew color on the "new" tag next to the thread name? its subtle but effective.
i dont understand this new design. why cant we just be like the old design but when ever somebody quotes you you got a blew color on the "new" tag next to the thread name? its subtle but effective.
yeah i kinda like that idea... without a key new members aren't going to know what's going on... also just a simple color change to the bg is fairly effective i think
also I think it would look better if the b/g color behind the thread title and image were the same
yeah i kinda like that idea... without a key new members aren't going to know what's going on... also just a simple color change to the bg is fairly effective i think
yeah its background color would be the same. just change the yellow "new" icon that used to appear next to the thread to blue. keep the changes they have now which look good, but arent all that understandable.
can you add the "alt" tag to the images? so when you mouse over the icons it says what it means
ie: alt="sticky" alt="new post" alt="new reply" etc...
This new way is making me post less... I agree with Banana... I miss the new icon :(
yeah its background color would be the same. just change the yellow "new" icon that used to appear next to the thread to blue. keep the changes they have now which look good, but arent all that understandable.
Yeah the new changes are "universal" but have a steep learning curve.
I'm going to turn back on the "new" image, then move over to the dev build and work on finetuning the design.
Yeah the new changes are "universal" but have a steep learning curve.
I'm going to turn back on the "new" image, then move over to the dev build and work on finetuning the design.
would it be possible to create a beta version of the site that the public could utilize and give input while still actually having all the stats be cumalitive.
ergo a separate area for the testing or an ...\beta\index.php that would be the same forum yet compile all stats and data together
would it be possible to create a beta version of the site that the public could utilize and give input while still actually having all the stats be cumalitive.
ergo a separate area for the testing or an ...\beta\index.php that would be the same forum yet compile all stats and data together
No.
New is back... thanks.
I guess people didn't posted in most threads due this lack.
Yeah the new changes are "universal" but have a steep learning curve.
I'm going to turn back on the "new" image, then move over to the dev build and work on finetuning the design.
fyi, i know your putting a lot of hard work into this. i appreciate that and thanks. and for all your trouble i am going to smite you :-)
fyi, i know your putting a lot of hard work into this. i appreciate that and thanks. and for all your trouble i am going to smite you :-)
Project Smite legend is going strong I see.
Project Smite legend is going strong I see.
its just a matter of years... just a matter of years.
the icons on the left kind a look like coins
i like them
oh its green now?
oh its green now?
green=stickied thread
red=locked thread
Then if you have new posts it's yellow, and new quotes make it blue.
confusing
confusing
We're still working on it. Thanks for the input.
I like it, except for the "new" icon.
That icon could be great for training new users what the color means, but for experienced users it becomes visually annoying.
Are you planning on putting back the thread icons?
I like it, except for the "new" icon.
That icon could be great for training new users what the color means, but for experienced users it becomes visually annoying.
Are you planning on putting back the thread icons?
I'm not sure about both tbh.
I'll probably do trial runs and see what people think.
I finally found the time-edit thingy so I can see 24 hours instead of that am/pm-crud! ;D
8 hours between most of you and me.
Good night @ August 28, 2014 at 00:22:35. 8)
I finally found the time-edit thingy so I can see 24 hours instead of that am/pm-crud! ;D
8 hours between most of you and me.
Good night @ August 28, 2014 at 00:22:35. 8)
Nah, bro!
I'm not sure about both tbh.
I'll probably do trial runs and see what people think.
could you at least make the "new" icon optional. i hate redundancy and i hate redundancy.
could you at least make the "new" icon optional. i hate redundancy and i hate redundancy.
Haha yeah all of these things are fairly easy to make optional.
The discussion right now is really what should be the default value for new users.
Haha yeah all of these things are fairly easy to make optional.
The discussion right now is really what should be the default value for new users.
no "new" icons. it insults their intelligence. ;)
...you'd need to do a legend though.
no "new" icons. it insults their intelligence. ;)
...you'd need to do a legend though.
Yes, but the new icons could work as the legend.
Yes, but the new icons could work as the legend.
you could always say it with lollipop!
..how long until i'm banned again?
you could always say it with lollipop!
..how long until i'm banned again?
I read the link and thought "oh it'll some comedy thing like a poorly shaped boquet." Nope hahaha
I read the link and thought "oh it'll some comedy thing like a poorly shaped boquet." Nope hahaha
check out these huge melons!
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=176173
check out these huge melons!
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=176173
What was the original picture?
What was the original picture?
we had weeks of people making joke threads where a the thread title was suggestive but then the picks was the "non-dirty" interpretation of the phrase. my thread had ~10 of the best big titty pics (yes nude) i could find and this gif. lasted just over an hour before getting modded.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/kS1aph1nPE1lm/giphy.gif)
we had weeks of people making joke threads where a the thread title was suggestive but then the picks was the "non-dirty" interpretation of the phrase. my thread had ~10 of the best big titty pics (yes nude) i could find and this gif. lasted just over an hour before getting modded.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/kS1aph1nPE1lm/giphy.gif)
Any possibility you could PM those bad boys to me?
Any possibility you could PM those bad boys to me?
lol, no. when the mods edited my thread i lost the links.
hmm... still not loving the new layout... the new icons are cool, but seem so separate from the rest of the site in terms of visuals... Either change the black b/g to the standard grey behind the icons or change the overall color scheme to work with each other...
I read the link and thought "oh it'll some comedy thing like a poorly shaped boquet." Nope hahaha
wow,.. banned for 17 days now. they must really hate me.
wow,.. banned for 17 days now. they must really hate me.
Only a week
im really warming up to the new design. i like it a lot now.
I'd like topics I haven't posted in to have a gray diamond instead of a yellow diamond as it is confusing since the yellow "new" thing pops up only on topics I take part in with posting. Having yellow on all threads makes it more meaningless for myself.
Also the new icon shouldn't show up on topics / threads in which I don't participate .
well now that I understand the shapes and colors i'm not so sure about what's in the spoiler section... I'll think about it some more
I think the Sticky color is not matching yet.
For posts already read you can use:
White = Non-sticky
Gray = Sticky
After that we start with colors :D
PS. The new design grows on you but the green for sticks is yet off.
I think the Sticky color is not matching yet.
For posts already read you can use:
White = Non-sticky
Gray = Sticky
After that we start with colors :D
[bold]PS. The new design grows on you but the green for sticks is yet off.[/bold]
i'm winning!!
in software design they say the rule of a good web design is to watch the usage immediately following a change. any change will give customers a negative reaction at first even if the changes are for the better. after an adjustment period of a few days to a week with a good redesign customer usage will return to normal or increase. poor redesigns will remain lower than previous.
i'm really glad to hear people are warming up to it. i think the changes made at my suggestion are going to be really good long term.
wrt to what you wrote about posts you've read. i was kind thinking maybe non-sticky should be more gray than white. the white on black pops quite a bit and draws a fair amount of attention to it which is counter to the point of guiding users to new posts/topics. not sure what to say about stickies,.. maybe you could go back to using blue for stickies and maybe purple for quote notification? my only grip with green was it is pretty close to yellow and doesn't pop the way i think it should.
Some slight changes have been updated.
Should be the final design.
In profile under look and layout you can turn off the "new" image.
Looks good. Wasn't too hard to turn off the "new" images either.
I set it so that if you're the last person to post in a topic, the icon is a dark gray.
I set it so that if you're the last person to post in a topic, the icon is a dark gray.
lol, was just going to ask about that. do we really need to distinguish no new posts from no new post and i was the last poster?
...i'd prefer all no new posts used that darker gray icon instead.
could we get another color for dev blogs and articles? I didn't realize the language topic in regards to vizioneck was a blog until I thought about it later and just now checked...
could we get another color for dev blogs and articles? I didn't realize the language topic in regards to vizioneck was a blog until I thought about it later and just now checked...
Yeah. How about text in front of the title like how it works with polls?
lol, was just going to ask about that. do we really need to distinguish no new posts from no new post and i was the last poster?
...i'd prefer all no new posts used that darker gray icon instead.
I personally like it.
With knowing I was the last poster, the thread is basically dead to me. No reason to go back to it.
With threads where I wasn't the new poster, I still might want to comment. Usually in the morning after waking up I read every new post, and then over the course of a few hours go back and post in the threads.
I personally like it.
With knowing I was the last poster, the thread is basically dead to me. No reason to go back to it.
With threads where I wasn't the new poster, I still might want to comment. Usually in the morning after waking up I read every new post, and then over the course of a few hours go back and post in the threads.
well you're the boss. personally if i was going to respond i would have the first time i viewed a thread so any thread with no new post (be it mine or someone elses) is dead to me. the darker gray makes it easier to ignore than the white.
well you're the boss. personally if i was going to respond i would have the first time i viewed a thread so any thread with no new post (be it mine or someone elses) is dead to me. the darker gray makes it easier to ignore than the white.
Maybe in a few weeks we can change it. Right now I'm having to focus on game development.
I just read a message, but it wasn't that clear to me that I had one.
Could you perhaps make it more clear by changing the color of "My Messages" when you have a new message in your inbox?
I just read a message, but it wasn't that clear to me that I had one.
Could you perhaps make it more clear by changing the color of "My Messages" when you have a new message in your inbox?
You should have a big huge bar appear over the top of the screen. Is that not clear enough?
I personally like it.
With knowing I was the last poster, the thread is basically dead to me. No reason to go back to it.
With threads where I wasn't the new poster, I still might want to comment. Usually in the morning after waking up I read every new post, and then over the course of a few hours go back and post in the threads.
Agreed. Its a good idea
#LegendSolidarity
you may already be well aware of this but...
...the front page has the filters for "show unread since last visit" and "show new replies". those pages use the old front page layout. probably should propagate the front page layout changes to those filters. imo.
#LegendSolidarity
i will get what i want when i want exactly how i want and if it don't i'll learn how to DDoS attack this place. other's opinions will not be tolerated!
you may already be well aware of this but...
...the front page has the filters for "show unread since last visit" and "show new replies". those pages use the old front page layout. probably should propagate the front page layout changes to those filters. imo.
Yeah same goes for the individual boards
http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?board=8.0
You should have a big huge bar appear over the top of the screen. Is that not clear enough?
I now see it ... how could I've missed that? :o
I'm going through and converting the rest of the site to the new index design.
When I click on "Show new replies to your posts." after I log in then it shows the old icons.
When I click on "Show new replies to your posts." after I log in then it shows the old icons.
It is because it uses the standard forum template and not the Index Page one... this one is default for all boards.
It is because it uses the standard forum template and not the Index Page one... this one is default for all boards.
So it can't be changed? I thought I found something that was broken. :(
So it can't be changed? I thought I found something that was broken. :(
It can :D but we need to change all the forum default template... it is not just one file but dozen :D
Time is the key... I think it will get done eventually.
It will get done after NPD.
I already have it halfway finished in the dev build.
Alrighty then! ;D
Sorry for not getting to this sooner.
Updated all the pages and removed the old design everywhere.
It "visually" should all be up to date, however when clicking on the thread title in these other places it just brings you to the first post instead of the newest. I'll get to that later.