Will this one beat the franchise high of 94?Not likely. Even if it's easily the best game in the series, I can't see it beating the meta.
Not likely. Even if it's easily the best game in the series, I can't see it beating the meta.You set 95 as your high here (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=6155.0)
I guess dibs counts for nothing here >:(Whoops, I forgot. Got sucked into the hype tornado. Can't Legend make you OP?
I guess dibs counts for nothing here >:(You may slap him.
Whoops, I forgot. Got sucked into the hype tornado. Can't Legend make you OP?Like I have the power to do that ::)
We needed a countdown to reviews!
You set 95 as your high here (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=6155.0)That doesn't mean I believe it'll happen!
It could happen!!!
Plus games are good again and scores that high are possible. Zelda just got a 97.
If GOW really is the best GOW, I could see it getting a 95.
Oh I was only joking but thanks anyway :PYou're gonna be grateful and like it!
Pez can have the discussion/ launch thread which will be much bigger anyway
You set 95 as your high here (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=6155.0)I don't think its possible for any franchise not Zelda, Mario or GTA to score a 97+ anymore. 96 might be possible for some, but with TLOU only hitting 95 I think that's pretty much the limit.
It could happen!!!
Plus games are good again and scores that high are possible. Zelda just got a 97.
If GOW really is the best GOW, I could see it getting a 95.
You're gonna be grateful and like it!Okay sir!
I actually think the review thread will be huge lolI can see GoW discussion being bloodborne big though, we'll all have lots to talk about.
I don't think its possible for any franchise not Zelda, Mario or GTA to score a 97+ anymore. 96 might be possible for some, but with TLOU only hitting 95 I think that's pretty much the limit.87 and below would make me slightly disappointed.
I guess we'll see, I'm feeling good about my 94 prediction, but I'll still be super happy if it lands at 92+. 91 or lower is when I might not be able to help feeling some slight disappointment
Okay sir!
I'm getting up for this tomorrow morning and I was planning on keeping the OT updated as I have a free few hours after the embargo, which is why I wanted it :D
10 hours!9 hours!
How many of you guys will be here at the time of reviews?Of course I'll be here. Only 1 am for me.
Of course I'll be here. Only 1 am for me.Awesome! I'm about to sleep, have an alarm set for 7:54am. Gonna be fun!
How many of you guys will be here at the time of reviews?It's 7 AM for me. I'll probably be an hour late.
The new God of War just made me shed a tear and I'm not even playing it, just cutting the damn review. What a game.
— Brandon Jones (@TrailerJones) April 11, 2018
Why did you unapprove your post?Put it in a more relevant thread.
What am I watching out for?
Yeah they took it down real quick, but the score was 9/10.That's not a good sign! Games with bad open world design have that problem!
Negative was having to backtrack a lot for side content.
Yeah they took it down real quick, but the score was 9/10.
Negative was having to backtrack a lot for side content.
That's not a good sign! Games with bad open world design have that problem!He did say they did it pretty well though. Also, game is inspired by souls which has a lot of backtracking too but not in a negative way
That's not a good sign! Games with bad open world design have that problem!Sounds like a non-issue for me honestly.
Sounds like a non-issue for me honestly.Seems like he can recognize quality.
And it seems this guy is quite harsh normally. He's only given 10s to BOTW, TLOU and The Witness.
He did say they did it pretty well though. Also, game is inspired by souls which has a lot of backtracking too but not in a negative wayI never realised how much I wanted a gow souls game till this post.
It's bad. :(Huh?
Huh?Gody Warlog's God of War Preview Thread Season 2, Episode 3 "Well Loki that! Cory In The House!" | Page 264 | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/posts/6649077/)
So, 8, 9, 9 so far. Pretty good scores.
Gody Warlog's God of War Preview Thread Season 2, Episode 3 "Well Loki that! Cory In The House!" | Page 264 | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/posts/6649077/)Yeah that looks good to me.
dang even with just a few reviews a very high score already seems unlikelyNah I'm feeling the hype. Think it'll get graham's number on metacritic.
Nah I'm feeling the hype. Think it'll get graham's number on metacritic.Lol.
Lol.I wasn't joking about the 5/5 leak. It's a 90 currently on "early critic" ;)
Then again apparently IGN released their beyond podcast discussing the game a bit early and it's completely glowing. Add a 9.5+ from them to an 8,9,9 and the average is probably over 90 on meta :P
Metacritic thinks this is a port of the ps2 game God of War for PlayStation 4 Reviews - Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/god-of-war)Lol yeah, meta are dumb.
And here is the opencritic link OpenCritic - The top critics in gaming. All in one place. (http://opencritic.com/game/5434/god-of-war)
I wasn't joking about the 5/5 leak. It's a 90 currently on "early critic" ;)
Slant is a 90Solid, same as Uncharted 4.
Ah I knew I remember Slant 'ruining' the score for a big game, they gave BOTW a 3/5!Yeah you gotta believe!
Yeah you gotta believe!Yes I'll keep it updated with the real scores :D
Anyway now that you're back do you want to take over updating the OP as the score comes? It wouldn't work if we both tried updating at the same time.
9.6 from some site.It won't let me get rid of the countdown!
It won't let me get rid of the countdown!Cause pezus made it
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/303971212281905154/433851326276042752/GodOfWarReviewThreadSmol.jpg)*OP is under construction as reviews come in!* OPENCRITIC: TBD METACRITIC: TBD Destructoid: EasyAllies: Eurogamer: GameInformer: GameSpot: IGN: Kotaku: Polygon USgamer:
10/10 destructoidIs opencritic working for you?
99 on oc with 4, just updatedIts real
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DakIREpUQAAd87l.jpg:large)
Maybe real?
Every time I refresh meta it swaps between 94 and 93Yeah I just finally saw the score now. Was showing me nothing.
Yeah I just finally saw the score now. Was showing me nothing.Yeah open is finally working for me
94 opencritic with 11 reviews
Yeah open is finally working for me"Our CMS can't add reviews through the DOS of F5s coming in...old on folks..."
Easy Allies god of war review: "God of War doesn’t just feel like the next step for the franchise, but for the entire video game industry." @EasyAllies https://t.co/sLrs9Tz0Ft
— Shuhei Yoshida (@yosp) April 12, 2018
Seems we can slow down and stop updating the thread every minute.Depends a lot on Edge I guess.
Wonder if it'll drop a bit in the coming week.
dang Open is on 96 now.Meta has been 94 for a while now. Could go higher!
Meta could climb to 94 at this rate. Just hope there's no 7s or lower.Depends a lot on Edge I guess.
Meta has been 94 for a while now. Could go higher!Looking at the all time chart, 94 range is 62 to 107, and God of War is #82. Slap bang in the middle.
(but won't)
So we're watching out for Washington Post, Game Critics, Aus Gamers, US Gamer, Quarter to Three, Stevivor and Digitally downloaded. They all gave Horizon/ Uncharted 4 low scores. Game Critics in particular, they were low on both.So far:
Edit: game critics were also lowest on bloodborne.
Crazy that oc is still 96. Just missing twinfinite.Yeah I wonder how many of those extra 10s need to go on meta
With 64 reviews now, meta isn't going anywhere. Maybe 95, maybe 93, but it's stuck! Nice!Its gone up 5 places to #77 of all time with these 12 reviews. So its getting close to the top of the 94 range (62-107). The Guardian 5 star still to add.
Alright I'm going to bed. The resetera thread is getting far too close to posting spoilers.Yeah I'm gonna try and sleep a bit more now too.
Will be fun to come back and watch reviews after I've played the game.
Holy fudge.As expected 8)
Great scores.
Holy fudge.Eh they're ok. No 99 though.
Great scores.
lIncredible scores ! I was right all along!:D :D :D
SkillUp saying GOTGWell the reviews agree. Not counting TLOU or GTAV its the best reviewed PS4 game, and by quite a way right now; God of War is #72 on meta all time list. The next PS4 best is Persona 5 at #128.
Cant believe polygon gave it a tenLol yeah I know, that shocked me.
"God of War is, in a single word, holistic. Every aspect is excellent on its own, but more importantly, it all serves and accentuates the larger vision. Some die-hard fans may fear this isn't really God of War. I suppose they're right. It's even better."
Lol yeah I know, that shocked me.What did they give?
Opencritic have misreported the telegraph as an 80 instead of 100. What to do? :o
What did they give?5 stars = 100
5 stars = 100Surely they'll change it
10/10 from Dualshockers!
Surely they'll change itLol they have a fact check email, I let them know.
A whole lot of tens
Lol they have a fact check email, I let them know.It might for a bit. Will likely end up with 94 though. I expect 8 or 9 from edge
So meta is close to 95 and there's two 100s and a 98 to add. Can it get there?????
It might for a bit. Will likely end up with 94 though. I expect 8 or 9 from edgeYeah if edge don't give it a 10 then 95 is impossible.
How often to games just increase like this on meta? After the first 40 reviews came in it was at 93 and its just consistently gone up and up since then. Most of the 10s have come after the initial rush.It's so hyped that earliest reviews were a bit low for clicks
It's so hyped that earliest reviews were a bit low for clicksYeah that's probably true. People knew they'd only be one of a sea of 10s so they delayed a bit. Good going!
Suhni is just the best personSpoiler for Large GIF:
(https://i.imgur.com/iwVbQCH.png)Exactly!
dang even with just a few reviews a very high score already seems unlikelyThink again baby!
Think again baby!Lol yeah those early reviews were all on the low side as it turned out, nothing to worry about!
It's dropping, down to 64.! :-[That was the 9/10 which was added. Should be balanced by IGN Japan whenever that gets added.
That was the 9/10 which was added. Should be balanced by IGN Japan whenever that gets added.They'll be furious that they didn't get an early copy
After that, I guess we're waiting for smaller reviewers to get their hands on it, and hope it maintains its all 80+ record!
Seems the game is still good.Okay...ish
Getting those 10s from Nordic sites as well!That's a bit rich considering he's a Nintendo fan and you could say the same about most of their titles too.
ANMELDELSE: God of War - Gamer.no (https://www.gamer.no/artikler/anmeldelse-god-of-war/434720)
God of War Review Thread | Page 58 | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/posts/6661377/)
Lmao
That's a bit rich considering he's a Nintendo fan and you could say the same about most of their titles too.He's ripping off a joke about Zelda on GAF.
He's ripping off a joke about Zelda on GAF.Oh. Managed to derail the thread though. Weirdly not banned for trolling
Any chance this goes up to 95 so I win!!After being hyped for the reviews for days (by reviewers themselves!) I always believed incredible scores were coming
But dang, i was honestly expecting to wake up to it being below 90 for some reason so now I'm fudgy even more hyped!!
Oh. Managed to derail the thread though. Weirdly not banned for trollingIt's a copy pasta, not trolling.
After being hyped for the reviews for days (by reviewers themselves!) I always believed incredible scores were coming
It's a copy pasta, not trolling.With most people not getting it, so it's a failed copy
With most people not getting it, so it's a failed copyNot getting a joke isn't grounds for a ban!
Not getting a joke isn't grounds for a ban!Not for those who don't get it. Should be banned for a bad joke!
Oh. Managed to derail the thread though. Weirdly not banned for trollingI did too, but there was just something last night where I was like dang it could possibly be below 90. Just a little of legend's pessimism rubbing off probably.
After being hyped for the reviews for days (by reviewers themselves!) I always believed incredible scores were coming
I did too, but there was just something last night where I was like dang it could possibly be below 90. Just a little of legend's pessimism rubbing off probably.Same...
Not for those who don't get it. Should be banned for a bad joke!Psh, they didn't get the reference. :p
I did too, but there was just something last night where I was like dang it could possibly be below 90. Just a little of legend's pessimism rubbing off probably.Yeah I got a bit of that as well.
I did too, but there was just something last night where I was like dang it could possibly be below 90. Just a little of legend's pessimism rubbing off probably.I was getting really hyped last night. Was expecting like a 98.
I was getting really hyped last night. Was expecting like a 98.Really hyped for me was still 94 :P
I was getting really hyped last night. Was expecting like a 98.Lol. That happens like 0-1 times per decade
Lol. That happens like 0-1 times per decadeMost of the reviews are probably already added, we'll probably get like 10 new reviews today and another 10 tomorrow or something.
Did Meta go to sleep? No reviews been added for a while
Uh oh, down to 94 on Open. The dream is dead :'(
What if Zelda had an amazing, cinematic story?
— Jeff Cannata (@jeffcannata) April 12, 2018
What if Last of Us had incredible, skill based combat?
What if Uncharted somehow put all the violence in context?
What if Dark Souls was approachable and clear?
The answer to all of these questions and more is God of War.
Most of the reviews are probably already added, we'll probably get like 10 new reviews today and another 10 tomorrow or something.Well there have been a few new reviews they've yet to add already. Been stuck at 76 reviews for hours!
Open is just catching up to Meta right now.
Still could get bumped back up to a 95.
The critics are already putting GoW as new inspirations for others devs.That's always a good sign.
That's always a good sign.Take notes Legend ;)
Take notes Legend ;)13 years and no improvement. Lmao
BTW
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dakm1xXVwAEjax9.jpg:large)
Take notes Legend ;)Yep same score on both platforms. Seems they did a good job with the port.
BTW
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dakm1xXVwAEjax9.jpg:large)
Opencritic may go back up to 95 if they ever get around to correcting the Telegraph review scoreBoom!
Edit: lmao I just decided to check and exactly that has just happened.
Boom!This must just be a joke from them at this point
God of War for PlayStation 2 Reviews - Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/god-of-war)
They even added "Also on: Playstation 4" to the original LMAO
2 reviews added on meta: 90 from Cheat Code Central and 100 from Gamer.noWell it should nudge it slightly up closer to 95
They'll cancel each other out, but that reinforces the 94!
Well it should nodge it slightly up closer to 95yeah just checked and its one place higher. Now back to only 2 places off 95
Boom!That has been there since at least yesterday.
God of War for PlayStation 2 Reviews - Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/god-of-war)
They even added "Also on: Playstation 4" to the original LMAO
That has been there since at least yesterday.Yeah understandably. I thought they only added this to the PS4 version tho, but they went way back
I was getting really hyped last night. Was expecting like a 98.lol so me and rev we're worried then you get hyped! what is wrong with the world!! :'(
come on 95!!!I got worried by the first few early reviews all being 9s and 8s, which I knew made the mid 90s statistically much less likely. Turns out they were just some of the more harsh reviews!
lol so me and rev we're worried then you get hyped! what is wrong with the world!! :'(
I got worried by the first few early reviews all being 9s and 8s, which I knew made the mid 90s statistically much less likely. Turns out they were just some of the more harsh reviews!Yeah you and Pi seemed to be going into panic mode based off those early reviews. ::)
Yeah you and Pi seemed to be going into panic mode based off those early reviews. ::)-Says someone who's pessimism keeps bringing up the order during preview threads
Yeah you and Pi seemed to be going into panic mode based off those early reviews. ::)Obviously we have the best knowledge of statistics!
I'm in the final stretch of God of War. I'll talk about it on tomorrow's Beastcast, and have a review up before the weekend most likely. Short version: This is a very good video game.
— Dan Ryckert (@DanRyckert) April 12, 2018
Obviously we have the best knowledge of statistics!I'm on a media blackout.
I got more relaxed when I heard about IGN's podcast though, and it seemed like they were going to deliver a 10.
-Says someone who's pessimism keeps bringing up the order during preview threadsI predicted 91 and put 85 as the lowest. Crashing and burning would be only relative to the sky high hype.
I was ready for the GoW hype to crash and burn....
Obviously we have the best knowledge of statistics!I took a statistics class for a few days.
I got more relaxed when I heard about IGN's podcast though, and it seemed like they were going to deliver a 10.
Thought it got an 85 from them.I'm in the final stretch of God of War. I'll talk about it on tomorrow's Beastcast, and have a review up before the weekend most likely. Short version: This is a very good video game.
— Dan Ryckert (@DanRyckert) April 12, 2018
He might just be keeping himself reserved but saying 'very good' sounds more like an 8 or 9 to me. Giant Bomb have quite big weighting, so if that's the case this might be the first big hit to the 95 dream.
Feels like a 5/5I'm in the final stretch of God of War. I'll talk about it on tomorrow's Beastcast, and have a review up before the weekend most likely. Short version: This is a very good video game.
— Dan Ryckert (@DanRyckert) April 12, 2018
He might just be keeping himself reserved but saying 'very good' sounds more like an 8 or 9 to me. Giant Bomb have quite big weighting, so if that's the case this might be the first big hit to the 95 dream.
Feels like a 5/5I hope so! But to me 'very good' is a perfect description of something I'd give 4 stars.
I hope so! But to me 'very good' is a perfect description of something I'd give 4 stars.While 8/10 is more like good these days. Unfortunately it would be translated to an 8
While 8/10 is more like good these days. Unfortunately it would be translated to an 8Yeah, Washington post came in as a 90.
Also,its dropping further from 95
I wonder how close it is to going up or downReally close to 95.
Another 100, from yahoo. It couldn't be closer to 95 right now.fudgy hell. Save us, giantbomb
fudgy hell. Save us, giantbombNah even if they give a great review, you can almost guarantee some reviews in the coming week or two will drop it back down to 94.
Nah even if they give a great review, you can almost guarantee some reviews in the coming week or two will drop it back down to 94.Save us, edge and giantbomb!
Save us, edge and giantbomb!If edge and giant bomb both give 10s then the 95 dream is real. They both have really high weighting.
New review just added. Game Over Online - 9.8/10.Barlog must be fuming :'(
Still not 95, but now it surely can't be ant closer. Just be something like 0.01 away.
Giant bomb 5 star!! Get ready for the 95!Called it
:PI'm in the final stretch of God of War. I'll talk about it on tomorrow's Beastcast, and have a review up before the weekend most likely. Short version: This is a very good video game.
— Dan Ryckert (@DanRyckert) April 12, 2018
He might just be keeping himself reserved but saying 'very good' sounds more like an 8 or 9 to me. Giant Bomb have quite big weighting, so if that's the case this might be the first big hit to the 95 dream.
:PHe was teasing us all along!
He was teasing us all along!Dang straight!
I wonder if a 9 from Edge would pull it back down to 94. Average would still be 95 for those two (gb+edge) and it was dang close to 95 total before themEdge has a bigger weighting. Its impossible to say for sure, it'll probably still be right on the line either way.
Hopefully it can stick to 95. That would be amazing. Either way the reviews are amazing and this game really really seems to deliver. I hope SSM get a chance to do a new IP next.Mainline GoW games in that case: 94-93-92-95
We have to wait till the 26th for Edge. :-\Good Might be higher by then
Good Might be higher by thenOr it might have received loads of mixed reviews and the edge 4/10 is the final nail in the coffin for 90+
Or it might have received loads of mixed reviews and the edge 4/10 is the final nail in the coffin for 90+That's right
I'm stoopit
Hopefully it can stick to 95. That would be amazing. Either way the reviews are amazing and this game really really seems to deliver. I hope SSM get a chance to do a new IP next.They don't need to do a new IP. If GOW can reinvent itself like this then why not keep reinventing it every generation?
They don't need to do a new IP. If GOW can reinvent itself like this then why not keep reinventing it every generation?Well Cory said he wants to do a new IP next. I guess Sony just let him do what he wants rather than try to force a sequel.
It's kinda cool to think that outside of Nintendo games (and GTA), god of war is practically the only old franchise that started huge and is staying huge without franchise fatigue setting in.
They don't need to do a new IP. If GOW can reinvent itself like this then why not keep reinventing it every generation?God of War is the perfect franchise for that, since it's easy for them to switch mythologies and stuff
It's kinda cool to think that outside of Nintendo games (and GTA), god of war is practically the only old franchise that started huge and is staying huge without franchise fatigue setting in.
Well Cory said he wants to do a new IP next. I guess Sony just let him do what he wants rather than try to force a sequel.My guess is that Cory does a new IP while another team starts working on a GoW sequel. After they see the sales numbers I don't think they can put it on hold
Yeah God of War is a very impressive franchise. Its a shame I never appreciated/ hadn't really heard of it when I had a PS3
Can GoW become the best reviewed PS4 game, besides GTA? It's one place behind TLOURMaybe, Edge will bring it down and make that very difficult but we'll see. I'd still bet it ends on 94 at this point.
My guess is that Cory does a new IP while another team starts working on a GoW sequel. After they see the sales numbers I don't think they can put it on hold
Considering the weight of Edge on metacritic if they give it a 10 it could hit 96. Probably 10 to 20 reviews before then so if they can overall push it towards 96 it's very doable. I think Edge who gave tlou a 10 are likely to favour this. However those other sites that have given games like tlou and hzd bad scores I have my doubts. We'll see.There's talk of edge editors hinting its not a 10. Also people are just generally thinking they won't give it. Their highest for any GoW game is an 8, although this is very different.
PS4 games getting great review scores GIF | Create, Discover and Share on Gfycat (https://gfycat.com/widefalseangelfish)Great GIF lol. Sony should hire this guy
PS4 games getting great review scores GIF | Create, Discover and Share on Gfycat (https://gfycat.com/widefalseangelfish)This gif spreading fake info lol
Lowest score is still an 8 right? That's kinda crazy.Yep. Has a few 80's.
Honestly if it can move up a bit on the 95 and edge give it a 10 I'd be surprised if it doesn't hit 96.It's more likely to drop back down to 94 imo
Apparently 4players.de review is out tomorrow and the reviewer gave it an impression after the preview that was just "good" and not very good. They are also very harsh usually. I guess they will bring it lower for sure. I'm guessing 8Kratos will show them his true power. They'll love it. Believe.
7 10's.Yeah I think if these guys give GoW a 9 we should be extremely happy with that.
A few are DLCs, Rock band Rivals, Bioshock collection and modern warfare remastered
Yeah I think if these guys give GoW a 9 we should be extremely happy with that.93 seems unlikely with this many reviews in.
You can't really compare GoW to the other top games until reviewers like these are added. The rest have to suffer from them too, and GoW hasn't yet. I think there's only a very very slim chance this hangs onto 95. Its probably more likely to drop all the way to 93.
93 seems unlikely with this many reviews in.There's 20-30 reviews to come. All it takes is a decent amount of 7s/8s without 10s to balance them. Its very unlikely sure, but so is managing to stay at 95 with the reviewers that have yet to come.
Even if a review gave it a 1/10 and had average weighting on MC, it'd still be a 94.
Yeah I think if these guys give GoW a 9 we should be extremely happy with that.Nah 93 is out of the question
You can't really compare GoW to the other top games until reviewers like these are added. The rest have to suffer from them too, and GoW hasn't yet. I think there's only a very very slim chance this hangs onto 95. Its probably more likely to drop all the way to 93.
There's 20-30 reviews to come. All it takes is a decent amount of 7s/8s without 10s to balance them. Its very unlikely sure, but so is managing to stay at 95 with the reviewers that have yet to come.Next 20-30 reviews just need to average to 9/10 to keep it a 94. That seems likely since there isn't an online multiplayer thing that'd make late reviews different.
Next 20-30 reviews just need to average to 9/10 to keep it a 94. That seems likely since there isn't an online multiplayer thing that'd make late reviews different.You say just, but I expect a higher proportion of 8s and probably less than that from the last lot. Also meta depends heavily on weightings of course.
I'm still expecting a troll review.Yup. There's bound to be one. People seem to be forgetting how quickly U4 and Horizon in particular dropped like a rock with just a few reviews. 93 is still perfectly possible.
(https://i.imgur.com/H94q9NI.jpg)He ages like a majestic beast
Yup. There's bound to be one. People seem to be forgetting how quickly U4 and Horizon in particular dropped like a rock with just a few reviews. 93 is still perfectly possible.Due to the way thread titles work, you can go back and check on how the score changed as reviews came in.
Due to the way thread titles work, you can go back and check on how the score changed as reviews came in.I recall that it was climbing and had a chance at 90 but then it got killed by a low score. Might be wrong though :(
Horizon had 88 after 35 reviews and would just occasionally get up to 89 every once in a while and finally stayed with 89 at 101 reviews. The score barely changed as time went on and that game had a 7 day early embargo too (I forgot about that).
93 for GOW is possible but it's not worth worrying about unless something changes.
It's more likely to drop back down to 94 imo#Believe
(https://i.imgur.com/H94q9NI.jpg)Where did he get the scar from on his eye?
Where did he get the scar from on his eye?I haven't played any GoW game, yet.
I haven't played any GoW game, yet.Do you know the plots or are you going in blind?
Do you know the plots or are you going in blind?I don't know the plots, but I also don't know when I'll be getting the game... :(
Holy balls! Its gone up 3 places on the all time list. Only one place below The Last of Us now! Its as close to 96 as it is 94. Insane.It's as close to 93 as it is to 97. Believe!
Assuming I counted accurately, 11 games to pass to get to 96. It's just below The Last of UsYeah. Games will be more closely distributed the lower the score though. So if its 10 below and 11 above, its probably more like only 1/3 of the way through rather than half.
I don't know the plots, but I also don't know when I'll be getting the game... :(I bought the game but I'm not sure when I'll play it either :'(
I think I will get the previous games first. But we'll see.
From a purely mathematical point of view, how much more prestigious is a 95 vs a 94? 10/10 is the max score so it's a lot harder to get higher averages.Opencritic's chart is a good way to look at this. 94-96 is in the top 0.1% of games while 91-93 is top 0.4% of games. This means there's 3x more games in the 91-93 range than 94-96.
Opencritic's chart is a good way to look at this. 94-96 is in the top 0.1% of games while 91-93 is top 0.4% of games. This means there's 3x more games in the 91-93 range than 94-96.That's mostly a measure of how common good games are. You'd instead probably need to do it with a probability curve assuming fully random reviews.
If you want to compare closer though, metacritic's all time chart has 55 games at 94, while only 20 at 95. So almost 3x more rare there too. That's actually the biggest jump as well.
92: 80 games
93: 57 games
94: 55 games
95: 21 games
96: 21 games
97: 15 games
98: 4 games
99: 1 game
94 --> 95 is quite a big difference it seems, using actual data.
That's mostly a measure of how common good games are. You'd instead probably need to do it with a probability curve assuming fully random reviews.Yeah but you'd have to model the curves off something. Well, of course it would be a gaussian but what exact shape, who knows.
Basically a measure of how many possible review configurations could land on the final score.
IE roll two 5 sided dice. What's the probability they add up to 10? It's lower than the probability they add up to 9.
Yeah but you'd have to model the curves off something. Well, of course it would be a gaussian but what exact shape, who knows.#EverydayMath
Okay fine. So looking at publications on meta, 74 seems to be the average. Now the majority of games are less than 98, so I set standard deviation to 8.
P(x>93)=0.00877 or 0.877% are higher than 93. P(x>94)=0.00621, or 0.621%. P(x>95)=0.00433, or 0.433%.
s.d. is probably different but eh that's good enough. There you go.
0.256% of games at 94, and 0.621% of games are above them. 0.188% of games at 95 meta, and 0.433% above them.
#EverydayMathI added an edit. standard dev. of 7 seems more likely.
Yeah but you'd have to model the curves off something. Well, of course it would be a gaussian but what exact shape, who knows.That's not what I was meaning, but it's probably way more useful so I'll take it!
Okay fine. So looking at publications on meta, 74 seems to be the average. Now the majority of games are less than 98, so I set standard deviation to 8.
P(x>93)=0.00877 or 0.877% are higher than 93. P(x>94)=0.00621, or 0.621%. P(x>95)=0.00433, or 0.433%.
s.d. is probably different but eh that's good enough. There you go.
0.256% of games at 94, and 0.621% of games are above them. 0.188% of games at 95 meta, and 0.433% above them.
Edit: Set s.d. to 7 and you get 0.118% at 94, 0.214% above them. 0.079% at 95 and 0.135% above them.
That's not what I was meaning, but it's probably way more useful so I'll take it!Gaussians are always the answer.
l--------------------94----------------------l-------------95-------------l--------96--------l-----97-----l--98--l-99-l10098+ is GOAT
Well here's my (stupidly accurate for what this is) visual representation. You're welcome.
Man I have no life.
l--------------------94----------------------l-------------95-------------l--------96--------l-----97-----l--98--l-99-l100Nerd!
Well here's my (stupidly accurate for what this is) visual representation. You're welcome.
Man I have no life.
Score | Number | Ranking |
99 | 1 | 1 |
98 | 4 | 5 |
97 | 15 | 20 |
96 | 21 | 41 |
95 | 21 | 62 |
94 | 45 | 107 |
93 | 58 | 165 |
92 | 81 | 246 |
91 | 104 | 350 |
90 | 131 | 481 |
89 | 162 | 643 |
88 | 192 | 835 |
87 | 217 | 1052 |
86 | 260 | 1312 |
85 | 316 | 1628 |
84 | 345 | 1973 |
83 | 373 | 2346 |
82 | 416 | 2762 |
81 | 452 | 3214 |
80 | 511 | 3725 |
79 | 465 | 4190 |
78 | 496 | 4686 |
77 | 516 | 5202 |
76 | 495 | 5697 |
75 | 508 | 6205 |
74 | 478 | 6683 |
73 | 517 | 7200 |
72 | 517 | 7717 |
71 | 500 | 8217 |
70 | 485 | 8702 |
69 | 435 | 9137 |
68 | 442 | 9579 |
67 | 384 | 9963 |
66 | 388 | 10351 |
65 | 364 | 10715 |
64 | 335 | 11050 |
63 | 313 | 11363 |
62 | 322 | 11685 |
61 | 297 | 11982 |
60 | 231 | 12213 |
59 | 280 | 12493 |
58 | 247 | 12740 |
57 | 222 | 12962 |
56 | 204 | 13166 |
55 | 176 | 13342 |
54 | 169 | 13511 |
53 | 171 | 13682 |
52 | 120 | 13802 |
51 | 133 | 13935 |
50 | 125 | 14060 |
49 | 124 | 14184 |
48 | 100 | 14284 |
47 | 88 | 14372 |
46 | 78 | 14450 |
45 | 78 | 14528 |
44 | 84 | 14612 |
43 | 78 | 14690 |
42 | 43 | 14733 |
41 | 49 | 14782 |
40 | 46 | 14828 |
39 | 46 | 14874 |
38 | 48 | 14922 |
37 | 32 | 14954 |
36 | 32 | 14986 |
35 | 29 | 15015 |
34 | 17 | 15032 |
33 | 19 | 15051 |
32 | 25 | 15076 |
31 | 10 | 15086 |
30 | 12 | 15098 |
29 | 6 | 15104 |
28 | 9 | 15113 |
27 | 8 | 15121 |
26 | 13 | 15134 |
25 | 9 | 15143 |
24 | 7 | 15150 |
23 | 5 | 15155 |
22 | 2 | 15157 |
21 | 1 | 15158 |
20 | 3 | 15161 |
19 | 2 | 15163 |
18 | 1 | 15164 |
17 | 4 | 15168 |
16 | 1 | 15169 |
15 | 0 | 15169 |
14 | 0 | 15169 |
13 | 0 | 15169 |
12 | 0 | 15169 |
11 | 1 | 15170 |
10 | 0 | 15170 |
9 | 0 | 15170 |
8 | 0 | 15170 |
7 | 0 | 15170 |
6 | 0 | 15170 |
5 | 0 | 15170 |
4 | 0 | 15170 |
3 | 0 | 15170 |
2 | 0 | 15170 |
1 | 0 | 15170 |
0 | 0 | 15170 |
What have I started!?A nerd fight
This thread just got too technical.NNNOOOOOOOO
I'm Out!
9/10 from 4players.deWait didn't they give 10s to a few games?
That's great! People were worried about this one, as they were one of the least positive on previews and they never give 10/10. The highest they ever give is 9.5/10 and that's super super rare (only ever given to SoTC, rest are 9.2/10 or lower). 9/10 from these guys is pretty much as good as it gets.
So a 9/10 and a 10/10 to add to meta. Should do pretty much nothing to the overall standings.
Wait didn't they give 10s to a few games?Well meta has 100s for some remasters/ DLCs but on their website those reviews actually have no scores. So I think it was one of those cases where meta gives it a score themselves and in 2016 they decided that all these should be 100 even though this place had never given anything more than 92 before.
But yeah that is very good considering the expectations
Could someone design a program to solve a large number of simultaneous equations to work out the weighting of each reviewer on metacritic?Assuming it's a static weighting, yeah. It'd be possible. It'd be a lot of work. You'd have to scrape all the data from a whole bunch of pages, which would be a project by itself. Then you'd have to match the data up with variables. There'd need to be a little bit of leeway to allow things like 94.4 and 94.6. Stuff like that.
This thread just got too technical.Go to the hype thread!
I'm Out!
Assuming it's a static weighting, yeah. It'd be possible. It'd be a lot of work. You'd have to scrape all the data from a whole bunch of pages, which would be a project by itself. Then you'd have to match the data up with variables. There'd need to be a little bit of leeway to allow things like 94.4 and 94.6. Stuff like that.Yeah that's what I thought. With a static weighting it would be possible but very time consuming.
Assuming it's a dynamic weighting.
Meta says "the scores are weighted according to the critic's fame, stature, and volume of reviews." Which it might be:
So you could expect that the first review has less weight than the 100th review from the same reviewer. Which might have even less weight than the 1000th review. And you wouldn't want scores to change for older reviews just because the reviewer is worth more now.
This is still mostly doable, but you'd need to keep track of a few more variables. Well the easiest one is how many reviews that the reviewer has had so far with each review. You can probably find a correlation. It's probably still possible to get the exact value, but it'd be a lot of work.
Static weighting is probably a fantastic approximation, but there's a chance that it'll be off.
Yeah that's what I thought. With a static weighting it would be possible but very time consuming.Harsh critics seem to have a lot of weight
Anyway, 3 reviews added to meta. The two stated before and a 100 from New York Daily News. It just keeps going up!
Edit: or not, it seems 4players have a big weighting. Its gone down in the rankings.
Harsh critics seem to have a lot of weightOh its probably meta not updating properly then. I might be seeing the all time ranks with the 90 counted and not the two 100s.
But it's still at 56 for me
Apparently there's another 10 to be added so it'll go net up
I refresh the page and it alternates between #53 and #56.There's no truth in meta land.
What is the truth?? :o
There's no truth in meta land.Yeah seems like it hasn't moved.
Still says 53 for me.
A few 70s is all it'll take to drop right back down. We still have Game Critics, Quarter to Three and Riot Pixels to come. I'd be surprised if those three average more than 80. Very surprised. In fact, even an average of over 70 would still be dodging a bullet from those three.I would not be surprised if it drops to 94.
Add in an edge 8 or 9 and things start to look a bit hairy.
A few 70s is all it'll take to drop right back down. We still have Game Critics, Quarter to Three and Riot Pixels to come. I'd be surprised if those three average more than 80. Very surprised. In fact, even an average of over 70 would still be dodging a bullet from those three.Quarter to Three:
Add in an edge 8 or 9 and things start to look a bit hairy.
Quarter to Three:Weird. He could easily pick it up at launch and make a review though.
As for God of War, true story: I didn't know there was a new God of War until last week when a friend asked me about it. She said something about Kratos' son and I was all, like, wait, what, his son? That's how out of the loop I am with console releases. I see it's doing well on Metacritic, so I presume some people think it's really good.
Far Cry 5 is more effective - and relevant - than it knows - Quarter to Three (http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2018/04/15/far-cry-5-is-more-effective-and-relevant-than-it-knows/)
I'm feeling lucky.
Weird. He could easily pick it up at launch and make a review though.they didn't reciew Uncharted 4, though.
they didn't reciew Uncharted 4, though.I guess they pick and choose what to review. Lets hope they either don't review this, or do and give it 5 stars lol.
I guess they pick and choose what to review. Lets hope they either don't review this, or do and give it 5 stars lol.They get more freedom to review what they want. At bigger places, you'd probably get assigned a review if no one else takes it.
If they didn't know about GOW until very recently, how are they a game journalist? I stopped reading once they mentioned story stuff so maybe it was hyperbole.Lol, now you can see why their reviews are so shame.
#Believe Where did he get the scar from on his eye?Just quickly looking at art for the first game, it looks like he's always had it. Probably from one of his battles before killing Ares.
Yeah seems like it hasn't moved.TLOU and UC4 both have more hater reviews though. I can't believe GoW still has nothing below 8
30/89 scores are 100 now. Almost as good a ratio as Uncharted 4!
I remember there were 48 reviews when it first updated on meta. 13 of those were perfect scores. Ratio has just kept increasing since then.
TLOU has 42/98 perfect scores by the way. An insane ratio.
Quarter to Three:Huh, is that real? Seem so hipster
As for God of War, true story: I didn't know there was a new God of War until last week when a friend asked me about it. She said something about Kratos' son and I was all, like, wait, what, his son? That's how out of the loop I am with console releases. I see it's doing well on Metacritic, so I presume some people think it's really good.
Far Cry 5 is more effective - and relevant - than it knows - Quarter to Three (http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2018/04/15/far-cry-5-is-more-effective-and-relevant-than-it-knows/)
I'm feeling lucky.
Someone on Chertz was saying that Qt3 was getting ready to publish their review.Wishful thinking
I asked them why.
They ignored me, and made comments about how it was going to be a 6/10.
Asked them if what comments they've made.
Let's see if I get a response...
"He mentioned he wasn't even aware of its existence but now he sees that it has a pretty good meta. Just felt way too cryptic given the way he has trolled high meta Sony exclusives in the past."
Quarter to Three didn't review Horizon until about 3 months after release....Who ever cares at that point!
Who ever cares at that point!Well the person you quoted I'd imagine.
Well the person you quoted I'd imagine.:o also maybe the person you quoted.
Who ever cares at that point!God of War should forever hold its reign.
Can you link to the all time list on metacritic? Maybe put it in the OP tooBest Video Games of All Time - Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all/filtered?sort=desc)
10/10 from Critical Hit! Will also be added to meta!Jeez it just keeps getting better
Might jump ahead of TLOU if just those two 10s are added together.
Jeez it just keeps getting betterIts crazy how much better the second half of reviews have been than the first.
Are you at least feeling more confident it won't drop to 93?Definitely. The 10s just aren't showing any signs of stopping and we haven't had a sub-nine score in ages.
It looks like either the second 100 did nothing or that was with the two reviews counted ^^Don't be hard on yourself, even Legend didn't forsee this
There's been a 9.5, 9.8 and a few perfect scores today also that won't count on meta. Man, the reviews for this game have been insane. I was optimistic and I still didn't forsee this.
Your pun is atrocious. ::)What pun?
Cole Train?Yeah I don't know why it was changed to this.
Guys, that's the wrong GoW. This is God of War, not Gears of War.
Cole Train?(https://pre00.deviantart.net/accf/th/pre/i/2011/277/c/b/thrashball_cole_train_by_nakalax-d4bu68h.jpg)
Guys, that's the wrong GoW. This is God of War, not Gears of War.
(https://pre00.deviantart.net/accf/th/pre/i/2011/277/c/b/thrashball_cole_train_by_nakalax-d4bu68h.jpg)Why did you do it though? :'(
Why did you do it though? :'(I didn't realise your old one was about GOW beating TLOU, so I thought I'd switch it to something random while you were offline :P
Did you think my title was supposed to be a pun?
Yeah I don't know why it was changed to this.I'm sure you were. >:(
I was just highlighting that its now got a better score than TLOU
Why did you do it though? :'(To be fair though, it was a bad pun.
Did you think my title was supposed to be a pun?
I didn't realise your old one was about GOW beating TLOU, so I thought I'd switch it to something random while you were offline :PAngry react
I don't even know what pun you guys are seeing in that. And I'm all for a good pun.That's why it was a bad pun!
That's why it was a bad pun!But I don't even know what it is!
But I don't even know what it is!It's a bad pun because it wasn't a pun. :P
You should blame yourselves for seeing this bad pun where none was intended :P
It's a bad pun because it wasn't a pun. :P:o that's just like saying any normal sentence is a bad pun.
That's what I'm saying, yo.
:o that's just like saying any normal sentence is a bad pun.Yes, it was a terrible pun, and I should be ashamed.
Lol what a terrible pun
100 | 46 |
99 | 1 |
98 | 7 |
97 | 4 |
96 | 3 |
95 | 17 |
94 | 1 |
93 | 3 |
92 | 4 |
91 | 0 |
90 | 26 |
89 | 0 |
88 | 0 |
87 | 0 |
86 | 0 |
85 | 2 |
84 | 0 |
83 | 0 |
82 | 0 |
81 | 0 |
80 | 5 |
5 star from Stuff. Not sure if that will be on meta though.Just more 10s and stuff
10/10 from Vgames, which will be added to meta. Nice.Can't stop, won't stop
Can't stop, won't stopNothing stops this Cole train!
God of War Review Thread | Page 378 | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/posts/6959570/)Listening to this now. God these guys shouldn't call themselves journalists. fudge me. I'd do a way better job than them.
There's a storm coming, Harry
Listening to this now. God these guys shouldn't call themselves journalists. fudge me. I'd do a way better job than them.I wonder why meta even uses their reviews...
This is why I don't expect this to stay at 95.
Listening to this now. God these guys shouldn't call themselves journalists. fudge me. I'd do a way better job than them.Do you have a better summary of it?
Do you have a better summary of it?Well first of all, they seem to have no idea of the franchise history. The reviewer is 3/4 through the game, and wasn't sure whether the last game was God of War 4 or 5 :-\
"Troll" reviews are interesting. Without metacritic it wouldn't matter and people could be people, but with metacritic it actually is something that the industry needs to think about. The best option would be to just go back to not caring about metacritic but that'd never happen ::)Yeah the issue is that the industry cares about metacritic too much.
Well first of all, they seem to have no idea of the franchise history. The reviewer is 3/4 through the game, and wasn't sure whether the last game was God of War 4 or 5 :-\....
His main criticism seems to be that he's playing a video game. He doesn't like that there's loot and stuff while also being a story. Because if you have a good story then having videogamey stuff like chests of loot just doesn't make sense and it should be story only.There's a few reviewers that I think don't like games.
He's basically saying stick with the new direction, story focused etc. and cut out the gameplay/ light hearted stuff and most of the side stuff, or just not bother with the journey/ new narrative etc.
I don't get what's wrong with him, it seems like he just doesn't like video games. He's calling the RPG elements like upgrade "garbage busy work"... :(
Yeah the issue is that the industry cares about metacritic too much.
There's a few reviewers that I think don't like games.Well these guys seem to like games, but they don't like it when you put a game and a story together.
Well these guys seem to like games, but they don't like it when you put a game and a story together.They must really like telltale games
I gave up listening when they were comparing it to TLOU. Saying that all the gameplay elements in TLOU interrupted what would have been an incredible story. "You have this emotional moment but then you have to fight these zombies, or craft this battleship bomb"...
Seems to me, they think if any game wants to attempt a good story it should be a walking simulator and never interrupt this story with any gameplay whatsoever. I just don't get their mentality at all.
Also he says this game isn't that good at telling the story either. Then his only reason is that a few key moments need some longer pauses of silence after to reflect upon them. I mean, if you want to reflect on what just happened then pause the game wtf.
His main summary quote is "very good but with a lot of problems", sounds to me like he'll give it a 7 but we'll see.
Well these guys seem to like games, but they don't like it when you put a game and a story together.It sounds like my perfect game would be a 7/10.
I gave up listening when they were comparing it to TLOU. Saying that all the gameplay elements in TLOU interrupted what would have been an incredible story. "You have this emotional moment but then you have to fight these zombies, or craft this battleship bomb"...
Seems to me, they think if any game wants to attempt a good story it should be a walking simulator and never interrupt this story with any gameplay whatsoever. I just don't get their mentality at all.
Also he says this game isn't that good at telling the story either. Then his only reason is that a few key moments need some longer pauses of silence after to reflect upon them. I mean, if you want to reflect on what just happened then pause the game wtf.
His main summary quote is "very good but with a lot of problems", sounds to me like he'll give it a 7 but we'll see.
It sounds like my perfect game would be a 7/10.Lol yeah same. I want an amazing story with some fun gameplay in between. Well, at least that's what I thought my perfect game was until BOTW showed me otherwise.
"I couldn't find a good emotional line for me to stay on. I ended up deciding that the story and narrative were the most valuable part of the game so far. And I decided to ignore all of the upgrades, side quests, everything not on the critical path. It detracted from my enjoyment of the game. It was really hard to feel the emotional beats and the pacing. Get your narrative out of the way quickly so then I can go into the systems if I want to. I'm surprised how much garbage is in the game that doesn't need to be there."
I'm skimming his stuff but maybe he just has different views. :POh yeah I'm not trying to shame on him or say he's dumb or anything. I'm just baffled about his opinions. They're so out of touch for anyone in the video game industry, you'd get the impression that he doesn't actually like games that much.
(Will need to play gow myself first)
4/5 is great.Its not good enough! Its an unforeseen hit to the 95 dream!
Did they seriously mean to give it 4 stars?Lol so it begins
"One of the best Playstation exclusives ever made"
"God of War's reboot is a triumph. Santa Monica Studios has managed to somehow make a raging monster into a compelling character without squandering everything you know Kratos for."
"Our few complaints - and there are very few..." (two very minor complaints listed but I won't include for spoilers)
"However, none of that detracted from an overall epic journey that is definitely the best in the series"
Sounds like 5 stars to me :(
Also weird they've given perfect scores to loads of PS exclusives, but this is one of the best... hmmm
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Seems like GoW dropped to #52 with that 4/5. Not too bad.Yep only cancelled out 2 or 3 tens.
How close is it to 94?Can't tell, metacritics all time list has disappeared. I can see its still above TLOU:R though
Can't tell, metacritics all time list has disappeared. I can see its still above TLOU:R thoughThe list was removed?
The list was removed?The other lists worked but when I changed to all/ all time, there were no entries. Had to tick the box at the top to get the games to show up again.
Also it seems Quarter to Three have decided to review it. The guy playing it has said its a drag playing through it, so he might as well try and drop the metascore by a few. Quality gaming journalism right there.Ffs
"Awesome! Thanks! I'll do that. I'm just so sick of these Sony fanboys treating God of War as the second coming of christ. Their tears bring me joy lol"(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/06/whats-wrong-with-you.gif)
"GoW director cried about game reviews"
"Seeing and reading stuff like this annoys me. I'm just looking forward to Tom's Review"
I'm telling you it will come down to edge. If they give it a 10 it stays at 95 or higher.Given the reviewer's comments I think 10 is out of the question
I'm telling you it will come down to edge. If they give it a 10 it stays at 95 or higher.Lol higher than 95 is completely out of the question no matter what.
If it had a nintendo logo on it it would have gotten a 10.Sure, Jan.
Just knew edge couldn't give it a 10.Yeah, I just hoped it would be a 9 instead of an 8. It makes sense, since EDGE are more harsh than pretty much everywhere else. But then you see Sea of Theives 7/10, and you're like oh, okay GoW only a bit better than SoT confirmed :D
Now we only have that troll review to wait for. Wonder if it can hang at 95 after that. We need more 10s to reinforce the score!
Lowest score is still an 8/10. That's incredible.Yeah it is. Metascore is low compared to TLOU now only thanks to smaller ratio of perfect scores, and EDGE being an 8 instead of 10 I guess.
Wait edge is already on mc and it's still a 95? Then woohoo!No. It is not on meta yet.
No. It is not on meta yet.Oh xev confused me!
Later today, maybe?
Sure, Jan.Tbh edge isn't harsh. They just have very specific tastes. They really like souls games, Zelda, Mario and new types of experiences I think
They've given plenty of 10s to playstation games before, I guess EDGE just never loved God of War. Also depends on the reviewer.
Yeah, I just hoped it would be a 9 instead of an 8. It makes sense, since EDGE are more harsh than pretty much everywhere else. But then you see Sea of Theives 7/10, and you're like oh, okay GoW only a bit better than SoT confirmed :D
Game Critics may be the only one, we have to hope. Then once these two reviews are weighed in, the meta will be way down in 94s. Need lots of 100s to balance it. I don't think it will happen. At least Opencritic don't count either, that should stay on 95 now.
Tbh edge isn't harsh. They just have very specific tastes. They really like souls games, Zelda, Mario and new types of experiences I thinkThey liked LittleBigPlanet and the last of us
They liked LittleBigPlanet and the last of usYeah both new types of experiences. At least in LBP's case. Maybe tlou wasn't revolutionary but the narrative kind of was
Come on now, Edge isn't a person with tastes. They have quite a few different reviewers and obviously they have changed over the years. It just depends on the person, and with a small amount of editor input I supposeThey are still pretty predictable. There's a reason everyone was worrying about their score. I mean, no main GoW above 8 says it all lol. All of them have had 92+ on meta
Come on now, Edge isn't a person with tastes. They have quite a few different reviewers and obviously they have changed over the years. It just depends on the person, and with a small amount of editor input I supposeLibruls.
They are still pretty predictable. There's a reason everyone was worrying about their score. I mean, no main GoW above 8 says it all lol. All of them have had 92+ on metaWell this is true. It was obvious it wasn't going to be a 10 but whether it was 7, 8, 9 depends on the reviewer.
Anywho, we should be happy that all we're worrying about is whether it gets 95 or 94 on meta!Oh yeah super happy. 94 was my quite optimistic prediction, so that being worse case scenario is fantastic. Also, since its been 95 up to and past launch, the critical period is over. The score will have encouraged people to buy it, and word of mouth takes over from here. Going from 95 --> 94 meta in a few days time will probably cost it about 10 sales WW :P
Thankfully, I think it is pretty secure on OpenCritic with the 95 8)
Anywho, we should be happy that all we're worrying about is whether it gets 95 or 94 on meta!But what if once we finish the game we realise it's overrated? ::)
Thankfully, I think it is pretty secure on OpenCritic with the 95 8)
But what if once we finish the game we realise it's overrated? ::)Then we cry in a corner and don't rain on everyone else's parades by making multiple threads years down the line trying to get everyone else to agree with us that its a bad god of war game
Then we cry in a corner and don't rain on everyone else's parades by making multiple threads years down the line trying to get everyone else to agree with us that its a bad god of war gameOh gosh if this game damages the series as much as Uncharted 4 did for Uncharted then yall are going to hate me even more.
Oh gosh if this game damages the series as much as Uncharted 4 did for Uncharted then yall are going to hate me even more.We shall have to mutiny
I'll become the anti-fanboy for PlayStation.
We shall have to mutinyI'd have to program a forum jail or something.
Oh gosh if this game damages the series as much as Uncharted 4 did for Uncharted then yall are going to hate me even more.Lol everyone was tired of old GoW. This one reinvents it
I'll become the anti-fanboy for PlayStation.
Lol everyone was tired of old GoW. This one reinvents itI wasn't tired of it but no disagreement is coming from me about the reinvention being smart.
7.5/10 from some random russian reviewer.Russia doesn't count.
I doubt open or meta will count it, but the streaks over boys!
Russia doesn't count.First the election, then GoW! When will their madness stop!
First the election, then GoW! When will their madness stop!You forgot the world cup you ignorant American! Putin will deal with you!
Russia doesn't count.Yeah turns out they aren't counted on mattocritic either 8)
Seems like opencritic does count that russian reviewer. Still 95 though...Fml
Edit: but on the brink of falling to 94 thanks to that.
Bazicenter 10/10, will go on meta. Need some more before edge review lands!They aren't russian, right?
They aren't russian, right?Nope. Persian.
Oh no! Paste magazine 7.5/10. Dropped opencritic to 94.Wtf son...
That's two 75s that open has, neither on meta.
Looks like both will end on 94 after all. They don't have edge and gamecritics but they do have two random 75s! dang opencritic you were supposed to be the chosen ones.
Wtf son...Pretty much every high scoring game gets some 7s. Even BOTW, Bloodborne, TLOU etc.
Srsly no way this is a 7.5 game
I have never given any game a perfect score.Edge could've done it.
Lordy
Aw man these updates are almost as intense as the game!Lol it feels really weird honestly. I had a week of being obsessed with the reviews before the game came out. Now I've played the game and completed the story and here I am still keeping a close eye on reviews. Instead of hoping for more good reviews to reassure me/ hype me, I'm now just checking that the reviews recognise the greatness that this game is :D
Still a better love story than twilightMe and this thread? :D
Me and this thread? :DGod of War Review Saga
God of War Review SagaLol. Still waiting on GameCritics, but then we can get a real good sense of if 95 will stay.
Why does open have less reviews than meta?Because its not really open
Why does open have less reviews than meta?Because they're even more selective/ have less people on board. I'm pretty sure they've always had lower numbers of reviews. Its just that they don't use weighting, and have a better score classification than meta, plus the distribution chart and the top %.
Why does open have less reviews than meta?I just looked through.
10/10 from Gamers Heroes. Puts Opencritic back to 95!The struggle is real.
Score | Number |
100 | 60 |
99 | 1 |
98 | 9 |
97 | 4 |
96 | 3 |
95 | 21 |
94 | 1 |
93 | 3 |
92 | 4 |
91 | 0 |
90 | 28 |
89 | 0 |
88 | 0 |
87 | 0 |
86 | 0 |
85 | 2 |
84 | 0 |
83 | 0 |
82 | 0 |
81 | 0 |
80 | 7 |
79 | 0 |
78 | 0 |
77 | 0 |
76 | 0 |
75 | 2 |
Total | 145 |
It's kind of crazy how quickly opencritic came up.idk this Mattocritic place seems even bigger right now.
It's replaced gamerankings.
Edge review added and its still 95. Just 1 game below it on 95 too. Surprised it survived the 8 from edge. Probably about 10 reviews left to be added. Will it hold..Yeah well I worked out that Edge needed to have over 2.8x the average weighting to drop it. So I guess maybe they had something like 2.5x. fudgy hell that's a lot though
Yeah well I worked out that Edge needed to have over 2.8x the average weighting to drop it. So I guess maybe they had something like 2.5x. fudgy hell that's a lot thoughWaaaay to much for one publisher. I don't see how that's fair or realistic
Metacritic must be run like a business. I presume reviewers have to pay a yearly fee to keep a certain weight.Why one earth would a publication care avabo it's weighting?
Edge review added and its still 95. Just 1 game below it on 95 too. Surprised it survived the 8 from edge. Probably about 10 reviews left to be added. Will it hold..Hold the door!
Edge vs. Metacritic: Does a game's platform influence its EDGE score? (http://edgevsmeta.blogspot.is/2010/03/edge-vs-metacritic-does-games-platform.html?m=1)It would be cool to see an updated version of that with Nintendo scores as well
Edge vs. Metacritic: Does a game's platform influence its EDGE score? (http://edgevsmeta.blogspot.is/2010/03/edge-vs-metacritic-does-games-platform.html?m=1)dang. An 8 average difference between Xbox and PS exclusives is almost too much to ignore.
dang. An 8 average difference between Xbox and PS exclusives is almost too much to ignore.It's pretty old. Someone should update it!
dang. An 8 average difference between Xbox and PS exclusives is almost too much to ignore.Almost. Trend continued with the latest scores.
Almost. Trend continued with the latest scores.Probably. They always seem to favour gameplay.
I also bet they review Nintendo titles more favorably
Fun fact, 92.5% of the reviews for this game are 9/10 or higher.Boy that is a fun fact.
Probably. They always seem to favour gameplay.The notion that Nintendo games have the "best gameplay" and that other games can't match or exceed it always baffles me.
Fun fact, 92.5% of the reviews for this game are 9/10 or higher.
The notion that Nintendo games have the "best gameplay" and that other games can't match or exceed it always baffles me.Plus, GoW has it in spades.
Many story driven games or "cinematic" games have awesome gameplay like uncharted, tlou, god of war, farcry, and many many others. Just because the other aspects of the game are up to par doesn't mean there isn't a strong focus on good gameplay
The notion that Nintendo games have the "best gameplay" and that other games can't match or exceed it always baffles me.Well of course. The "best gameplay" depends on personal preference.
Many story driven games or "cinematic" games have awesome gameplay like uncharted, tlou, god of war, farcry, and many many others. Just because the other aspects of the game are up to par doesn't mean there isn't a strong focus on good gameplay
Well, I think Nintendo has awesome gameplay. Not the best, but I have loved pretty much every game I've played.Yeah this is true. But you expect that from Nintendo though, so you're not disappointed or it doesn't detract from the experience if there's not a good story. I buy Mario for the gameplay only, I hold BOTW so highly for its gameplay not its story. That being said, BOTW does have a very good story still, which is why its a standout Nintendo game for me. If only they did it more often.
But I do hate their philosophy of good story=bad gameplay. Their gameplay is awesome, but their games lack depth.
Yeah this is true. But you expect that from Nintendo though, so you're not disappointed or it doesn't detract from the experience if there's not a good story. I buy Mario for the gameplay only, I hold BOTW so highly for its gameplay not its story. That being said, BOTW does have a very good story still, which is why its a standout Nintendo game for me. If only they did it more often.It's weird. With Nintendo, I don't mind if there's no story. But for a lot of other games, even if I love the story, I feel weird thinking about them without their stories. Not sure if I'd play them, but I probably still would.
Also what would you consider the best gameplay?*shrugs*
It's weird. With Nintendo, I don't mind if there's no story. But for a lot of other games, even if I love the story, I feel weird thinking about them without their stories. Not sure if I'd play them, but I probably still would.Yeah I know what you mean.
*shrugs*
I think most companies have pretty good gameplay. I wouldn't put any to be "the best" though.
Like I love Mario Kart Wii, put hundreds of hours into it. But, I don't think I'd just say yep this is the best. I think Modnation Racers is pretty comparable.
I would say Nintendo probably has the best platformers. But aside from that a lot of companies do great gameplay.
It's weird. With Nintendo, I don't mind if there's no story. But for a lot of other games, even if I love the story, I feel weird thinking about them without their stories. Not sure if I'd play them, but I probably still would.That's a good point. I really don't care in the slightest for shooters and what not without a story and god of war is the first time in a very long time I'm enjoying playing challenges just for the sake of the challenge.
I posted that like 4 days ago! ;)
I just watched it. That's some extremely high praise. He says its the highest 9/10 he can give, and that only a few things make it fall short of a 10.It was a good review. 95 on meta so by his review he may have went higher then the average.
It was a good review. 95 on meta so by his review he may have went higher then the average.Yeah seems like he pretty much agrees with 95 but his 10s are super super rare.
5/5 from The Post AthensDoes it go on meta?
Does it go on meta?Narp
Does it go on meta?Only question that matters
The recent stream of great exclusives games releases is certainly a good thing, and while some consoles are getting more of the spotlight than others, all three big ones made the press rather positively recently, whether it's due to their record-breaking sales or amazing reception by the press. The unfortunate side effect of that situation is that it also reveals the dirty side of the press industry, and by that I don't mean to blame at all the hard-at-work journalists, but instead the reason of everything wrong in the game press industry: you. Let me start by defining that "you". I'm talking about you, the reader of many media outlet, whether it's online press (IGN, Kotaku, Polygon, Eurogamer…) or physical magazines (Edge, GameInformer…). It also includes all of those who aren't reading any reviews and just looking at the scores that ResetEra spontaneously gather every time there's a new release. Same for those who don't have the time for all that and only use Twitter for the big headlines. And, more importantly, it includes all of those who are commenting these articles, the behaviour of those media outlets, who are following their activities, and in general are actively participating in the game press industry's world. Of course, that includes me too. And if you don't feel like you're in any of the categories I just mentioned, you probably read them wrong, or you're only here for the laughs (and I certainly won't blame you for that). I'm going to begin with a recent example, the God of War release. It'd be hard to argue that the game wasn't received incredibly well. Look at that Metascore, 95 out of 100, therefore ranked as one of the best games of all-time. Look at those sales, breaking records in every country it's releasing in. And it's certainly resonating as well with the gamers, just a sneak peek in the OT on this board and all you'll see is people having a blast with the new video game they bought. Santa Monica are probably the happiest they've ever been in their life with these glowing reviews after several years of hard work. What to say of Sony, that is probably glad that they're once again making the headlines, especially when it's followed by the surge of people who are buying a console just to play that game. Every party involved is supposed to benefit from that situation, the developers who made a great game, the gamers that can play a great game and the publishers who will sell a lot of that great game. Who could possibly be losing anything in this situation? Well, there's one actor that is, and paradoxically it's also one that is contributing a lot to this situation: the press. As I've said, God of War was received incredibly well. Practically only 10/10 reviews, with a few 9/10 here and there from outlets that either never give 10/10 or maybe had a hard time reading those small subtitles, but no sweat over those, they're not going to lower the Metascore, so it's all fair. People are cheering on Twitter or the ResetEra review thread, making posters will all the perfect review scores the game got so far. In that honeymoon-like atmosphere, imagine being "that" outlet, about to make your review public, the one that isn't a 10/10, nor a 9/10, but a reflection of your opinion which isn't as glowing as the others. Well, whatever you've wrote, you better not look at your twitter account because you're about to get wrecked by a mob of angry fans. I'm of course referring to the Edge review thread on this very board, which was locked after twenty pages of fanboys spiting all the poison they could before a mod came in and locked that trainwreck. Edge is essentially responsible of two capital sins according to those people: reviewing God of War too low (it got 8/10) and rewarding Sea of Thieves of a score (7/10) too close to God of War. What's the relation between those two games you say ? Well, one HAD to be recognized as the second coming of the Christ by absolutely everyone, while the other had a more mixed reception and thus couldn't seriously have a score that fly so close to Santa Monica's sun. Different reviewers, different perspectives, different writings, different opinions, that doesn't matter to them, all wearing their Kratos avatars and showing their perfectly neutral stance by the same occasion, it was an impossibility. Then comes the research for explanations, and by chance, Edge happens to be published in the same country as Sea of Thieves developers, Rareware, comes from, so that must be it! These very professional journalists must have been biased and that's why they gave it such a high score, and I, a grown man spending all my day ranting on the internet, am much more objective than them and that's why you should avoid spending a dime to read their papers. Now, that was one specific and recent example coming from this place. Let's talk about another but not that different case. In May 2016, brilliant reporter Jason Schreier reported that No Man's Sky was about to be slightly delayed, two days before the game's developers confirmed it. In those two days, here's what happened. I invite you to read Kotaku's entire article about the subject (https://kotaku.com/i-got-death-threats-for-reporting-on-a-video-game-delay-1779617741). That case was widely reported as an example of extreme fanboyism. I'll assume that you already know what to think of sending death threats over video games (and in case you don't: first, you're scaring me, second, sending death threats to anyone is bad), so instead I'm going to talk about why you should feel concerned by that article. You're probably thinking that it doesn't have anything to do with you, because you're a decent human being and know that you shouldn't threat anyone over games, but that still doesn't mean at all that you didn't play a role in that. By complaining about review scores or articles you don't agree with, you're contributing to this nasty atmosphere that is toxic against games journalists. You're not going the extreme mill yourself, but you're encouraging those who are broken enough in their minds to go that far. And I'm going to clarify right now what I mean by "complaining": of course, nobody should ever blame you because you're disagreeing with an opinion and want to argue against it. It's the point of these reviews, to make people react, whether just by agreeing or by arguing otherwise. But arguing against doesn't mean one second that you should attack the outlet, the reviewer itself, or even his opinion about the game. Your opinion is NEVER more valid than the reviewer, most of the time it's much less valid because you don't have years of experience and a 2000-words essay to back you. Disagreeing is fair, arguing against is fair, trying to discredit the writer because you can't stand criticism against the company you've swear loyalty for isn't. And yes, this has consequences. Because you're trying to discredit the game press industry, you contribute to create movements against it, such as the GamerGate. You're directly responsible of that abomination. Even if all you were doing was a bad post about how Edge sucks because they gave low scores to all your favourite games, and therefore they must have been paid or just have a hate-rock. Hey, why not dig up that old battleship and almost fake-news story about how Polygon is paid by Microsoft, surely that won't stir even more hate against an industry that, by being based on people's personal opinions, is already heated enough. You are criticizing in bad faith an outlet or a reviewer -> more people that think the same way as you will follow your example -> creates a toxic atmosphere of hate against the press -> gives more excuses and confidences to even dumber people -> death threats and harassment comes -> the gaming community continue to be the worst in the entertainment industry. Now, that long post so far was a lot of blaming. And again, I'm blaming "you" to make you feel concerned, but that applies to me as much. I too have been trying to discredit reviewers or outlets when they were the outlier in the middle of a bunch of glowing scores about a game I was anticipating a lot. I often brushed off Polygon and Kotaku as clickbait outlets that just want to stir as much controversies as possible. I'm a contributor to that toxic atmosphere against the press, just like anyone else here is. But there are solutions. If you've come to this conclusion, just like I did, you probably want to change things, to improve yourself, and to improve the working conditions of reviewers. Supporting people is always the key. You think that God of War is a 10/10 game worth of every possible praise it had, and you can't comprehend how Edge could like it less than you did? Well, then just buy the issue and answer your own question. You can read the review and the numerous arguments the writer used to justify his score. You will probably understand why he thinks that way and just decide that what he considers as a flaw doesn't bother you enough to ruin in the slightest your experience. You may also just disagree with him, and you could then write here why you don't think like him, engaging with other people that may or not agree with you, and all that by staying respectful for the work of others. Buying a magazine may be too much for some, but that only applies to specific outlets. When Jim Sterling is giving Zelda Breath of the Wild a 7.5/10, watch his review video instead of spouting nonsense about his Nintendo hate rock, trying to back up your point with his previous and unrelated work. Yes, you're giving him clicks, advertisement and money by doing that, but that's how the entertainment and information industry work in general. If you still disagree with him, and his views in general, you can then explain why you don't like his opinion, or just decide to not watch any of his videos anymore. In any case, he won't suffer much of your loss alone. I could have given more examples of why the gaming community is acting against their interests and worsen media outlets, like that time when Bethesda announced that it wouldn't give press review copies in advance because they had faith in gamers to make the good choices, but this post is already way too long so I'm going to end with this: the gaming press industry is both better and worst than it was 20 years ago. It's better because we have a lot more variety and publishers are less directly invested in outlets, creating more neutral and diverse contents. The day of old magazines giving 90+ scores to every game the publisher sent them in fear of being blacklisted is over. We now have reporters that aren't afraid to break big news because they know that their audience will follow them no matter what the publisher could do. But it's also worst because people are now so emotionally invested in their favourite company that they can't stand any kind of criticism and try to create movements to protect them. Spoiler : big multinational companies doesn't care at all about you defending them on Twitter, you should try to go outside more often instead.TL;DR : when you criticize in bad faith a reviewer or a media outlet because you don't like that they gave god of war a lower score, you're responsible for the toxic atmosphere that leads to death threats being sent and the creation of stuff like GamerGate. Also, you shouldn't answer to my long-dog post just after reading this tl;dr.
Omg the Era review thread is back. This will be much easier now.Every point counts. Keep em coming boy
Game Debate 9.5/10, on meta apparently.
News Arbiter 9.6/10On meta?
Nerd Slash 5/5
On meta?Narp. And neither is AVForums, who gave a 10/10.
Narp. And neither is AVForums, who gave a 10/10.Ffs people. Send meta your applications!
Another review added to meta, still 94.Hanging on the edge
It's now 1 spot from 95 on the list again. I more review higher then 95 should push it over. Super close.Its happening!
I just made my first user score on metacritic. Gave god of war a 10.Atreus should win if there's a child category. He was 9 when they first started working with him.
So will mimir or atrues win the best supporting character role awards this year?
2 perfect scores in one day, and it's still not up?It would be 95 even with Edge by now, its thanks to GameCritics 75 it hasn't made it back yet :P
WHY!
It's so close to 95... RIGHT ON THE *EDGE!
*It's all their fault
It would be 95 even with Edge by now, its thanks to GameCritics 75 it hasn't made it back yet :PPsh, GameCritics barely did anything. Edge practically gave them a 58, you said! That's way worse.
Or I guess you can blame whichever out of those two you want.
Its on the brink anyway now, just needs an average of 95 from the last set of reviews. Hopefully no more below 90 come in, but it'll probably happen.I bet it'll hit 95. And 3 months later, we'll get 1 troll review and down to 94.
Psh, GameCritics barely did anything. Edge practically gave them a 58, you said! That's way worse.Well Gamecritics are the ones who actually lowered it to 94!
I bet it'll hit 95. And 3 months later, we'll get 1 troll review and down to 94.
Now on Meta.Looks like I'm winning the contest :D
Back to 66.
Now on Meta.Wow, it was 94 just yesterday :'(
Back to 66.
Wow, it was 94 just yesterday :'(::)
Wow, it was 94 just yesterday :'(oh you
Another 1 just added, LaPS4 with a 98 and Riot Pixels added a 95 the other day. Up to 64 on the all-time.So close to a 95, yet so far.
A couple more reviews in. Official PlayStation Magazine UK and PlayStation Country both gave it 90. Down to 72nd in the all time .PlayStation magazines. *SMH*
A couple more reviews in. Official PlayStation Magazine UK and PlayStation Country both gave it 90. Down to 72nd in the all time .What the eff son
From 9.2 to 8.9 on the user review in a couple of days. Fanboy attack?Awards season
Awards season?
?"During Awards Season People Will Realize God of War is not a 10" (by some people on the internet) | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/during-awards-season-people-will-realize-god-of-war-is-not-a-10-by-some-people-on-the-internet.43471/)
Si I've read this (some person said that it's the best 8.5/10 of your life) and got me wondering: Regardless of what I think about the game, right now it seems like the press have made up their mind (and heart) and even if they think the game is... I don't know, a 6/10, it looks like everything before it is less than that so, it doesn't have to be a 10 by the end of the year everything else would be lesser. Now, projecting into the future, it's expected that Red Dead Redemption 2 will get major attention but other than that what else could compete? Spider-Man? Smash Bross? It's undenniable that God of War will be in the conversation whether people think it deserves it or not and it'd be weird if the press would backpedal on their claims so much. An example used to back up this claim was Uncharted 4, stating that it got a lot of 10s and by award season got brought down because "people" changed their opinion but that game still got a lot of goty's so... Do you feel that press is on a famous honeymoon phase and got carried away? Personally I think they were to vocal to turn around. (I'm not saying nothing can top it, juts that it'd be weird is they suddenly say "you know, actually it wasn't that good). Bring ragnarok upon me if I'm not making any sense.
"During Awards Season People Will Realize God of War is not a 10" (by some people on the internet) | ResetEra (https://www.resetera.com/threads/during-awards-season-people-will-realize-god-of-war-is-not-a-10-by-some-people-on-the-internet.43471/)Oh, its not awards season yet though so why would this change the meta? :P
Oh, its not awards season yet though so why would this change the meta? :PIt's a joke, son!
It's a joke, son!Its not meta enough tbh
A meta joke about meta
There's very few people I am not able to talk to in the Sony first party family, and get inspired by their actual process and detail. And that's the kind of thing we sort of lost as we became owned by corporations-as developers, we don't get to share as much, everything is proprietary and involving secrets. GDC is no longer the thing where everyone is like "hey, let me show you that code, that shows you exactly how I solved this rendering issue problem"To Be Compared to The Last of Us is Fantastic: God of War Director | IndianNoob (http://www.indiannoob.in/to-be-compared-to-the-last-of-us-is-fantastic-god-of-war-director/)
We're starting to see a little bit more of that, but within Sony, we have these things called Creative Share Weeks, with several developers, where we send our developers to their studios for a week, and they send theirs to ours for a week. And they get a desk, they're working on the game. And then at the end of the week, they give us a sort report card of, "hey, we solve problems like this, you solve them like this. Hey, your way is better" or "our way is better, and let me show you why". And that kind of sharing is born is amazing, that is something that is truly born out of this creative thing. We are better because we share."
The thing with The Last of Us, is, for me, I think a lot of people mean it as a dig, which I've never really understood," he said. "Like, "oh, you're just doing your own Last of Us", so, o-Kay. One, I am incredibly inspired by Neil and his team, they are absolutely otherworldly with their abilities and how talented they are and how much they bring to and elevate the medium. And I think to me, I would love to be considered as somebody alongside, or even within the proximity of someone who helped elevate the work that we do. Help make people see the work we do in a different light. So I will never ever be bothered by the fact that we are being compared to The Last of Us, because I think it's truly a watershed moment in our industry. So to be considered in the same vein as that is fantastic. But I think it shortsells any idea when you say there's a similar part to something else, like "aw man, The Avengers is ripping off Batman. You've got people running around in outfits". Of course, there are outfitted people and there's superhero stuff, but it's not just ripping off Batman."
Oh, its not awards season yet though so why would this change the meta? :PIt's not a 10...its a 94 and awards season will reflect that!
Just got another 10 out of 10 from Jeuxvideo.com. Stays at 72nd on the the all-time though.:o
Let's cut to the chase. Why do you think people should check God of War out now that it's on PC?
Cory Barlog: Because it's a giant smokescreen to sell you on the fact that Silent Hills is secretly inside the game? Totally kidding. Honestly, I think for us, it's really exciting that there's a new potential audience of people who haven't played the game who get to experience it and show it off on their beefy machine. I don't have a 3090 [GeForce graphics card], but I'm sure they all have a 3090. But also, even if you have experienced it, I've played the game a few times, but playing it on my ultra-wide is a pretty awesome experience.
How much insight do you guys have into how Sony decided that the PC was a market they wanted to push this on to? Was that something you were championing early on?
Barlog: I think it was the collective of studios all over saying this is a really good idea. We should be looking into this. Eventually, I think it reached that tipping point. When we had sent so many suggestion box suggestions that they were like, "I'm tired of hearing all this. Fine, we'll do this." It's a process. We're still figuring it out as a company and as individual studios how to do this and what the process and strategy will be.
So, do you think that we might see Ragnarok on PC sooner than four years after its console release?
Barlog: I have no idea. Right now, we're taking it one game at a time, kind of looking at each one and determining, "Okay, is this the best thing?" And we'll gauge how it does. Do people enjoy it? Did we do it right? Is there anything we did wrong? What can we do better in the future if we do this again? But at the end of the day, ultimately, it's Sony's decision.
How much did you think about mouse and keyboard controls for God of War?
DeWald: Quite a bit, because right away we knew that, coming on a PC, we're gonna have to focus on that. We're gonna have to figure out what that looks like. One was building a customizable interface that you can change all the keys. That's not something that existed on the console. There's a lot of work just doing that. But then figuring out what is that default setup? And does that feel natural?
A lot of people use their Xbox controllers to play on PC. How do you guys feel about people playing God of War with an Xbox controller now?
DeWald: Awesome. We even put in all the glyphs for you so you don't get confused by the button press. Yeah, we have no problems with that. You can even use a Switch controller here as well.
Pavlin mentioned that the PC's customizability and support for all kinds of controllers naturally open the door to more accessibility options, but those benefits can also carry over indirectly to Santa Monica's next game on PS5: God of War Ragnarok. Revisiting the 2018 code gave the developers an opportunity to build a "more accessible framework" for their next game.
"Working on things like keyboard remapping allows us to actually look at how that pipeline functions overall, and carry that forward through all of our SMS products," Pavlin said. "So that will help us to build a better foundation to work off of in future products."
Senior technical producer Matt DeWald added that "PC is just a small sliver of what we want to do for accessibility. It's the stuff that we could easily do without going back and re-authoring content. But to Mila's point, accessibility is really important to us. And we want to try to make sure we can support as much as we can. So there are some big plans."
Pretty glowing praise from Digital Foundry here (https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-god-of-war-on-pc-digital-foundry-tech-review-playstation-vs-pc-performance-optimised-settings.539393/page-2#post-80231396)QuoteSounds fantastic. We're in the weird spot of superior Sony PC ports compared to Microsoft.Yes - I consider this in a number of ways better than FH5 and Halo Infinite PC ports at the moment.
Though to be fair - the best PC port in years came from MS with Gears 5.
I'm glad this is a great port. How does it compare to Horizon, Death Stranding, and Days Gone?tl;dr:
In the wake of Kojima Productions' generally excellent Death Stranding PC port, expectations were sky-high for Horizon's PC conversion. With that in mind, it's both baffling and extremely disappointing to see the port fall so far short of expectations.Digital Foundry (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-horizon-zero-dawn-pc-tech-review)
While we're not getting the ultimate package here - there's no ray tracing and disappointingly, no DLSS - there's no doubt that this is a solid, impressive port.Digital Foundry (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2021-days-gone-pc-port-analysis)
God of War on PC is a simply sensational portDigital Foundry (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2022-god-of-war-on-pc-is-a-simply-sensational-port)
Sony's PC port strategy paying off:
— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) January 17, 2022
- Low cost to port PS games to PC (Similar architecture)
- PC games market over $40bn in 2021
- Can extend sales off console to core gamers
- Can target new geographies where console install base is low
- Improve reach and popularity of PS IP
- pissed off console ownersPersonally I'm at the stage where I'm thrilled to watch PC owners see what they are missing.
- the best place to play ps games is not on ps damaging their hardware appeal.Well, I doubt the vast majority of PS owners will care enough to get a PC.
- pissed off console ownersI agree with you that this is a bad thing for their long term strategy.
- the best place to play ps games is not on ps damaging their hardware appeal.
I agree with you that this is a bad thing for their long term strategy.I don't think the end result will matter.
But if they keep releasing games that are more than a couple of years old, then I think minimal damage will happen.
I wonder how much sales these games are doing. Rumor has it Horizon and Days gone are between 1-2 million? If so, is it really worth releasing these games on PC?These ports are very low budget. The God of War port was done by 4 people over 2 years.
I don't think the end result will matter.Is that confirmed? They talked about having to make new animations for ultrawide support.
I don't think the PC and console markets overlap that much. These ports are very low budget. The God of War port was done by 4 people over 2 years.
Is that confirmed? They talked about having to make new animations for ultrawide support.How God of War was brought from PlayStation to PC • Eurogamer.net (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2022-god-of-war-pc-tech-interview)
Digital Foundry: When did the porting process begin? And who is working on it, Sony Santa Monica, as well as Jetpack?
Matt DeWald: So, we've actually been working on this for a while, but it started kind of slow to begin with. It just started as like, "Hey, can we even do this? Do we have the technical expertise? How do we work together? blah, blah, blah." So, there's a lot of interstitial work that needs to happen just to figure that out. It's probably been about two years of total work, but with a very small crew - there's a team of four at Jetpack that have been doing the primary engineering efforts. And they're almost all engineering efforts, there's been a little bit of assistance from internal, just where things are, "Hey, how does this work? Where is this thing placed?" and then internal Santa Monica, myself leading the project from a production standpoint, but then mostly, it's just QA support, and then tapping different individuals to help fix bugs that may have existed on PC. So, it's a very small team that we've tried to produce this with. Keep it lean and mean.
How God of War was brought from PlayStation to PC • Eurogamer.net (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2022-god-of-war-pc-tech-interview)That sounds like more than 4, but still very very small.
I agree with you that this is a bad thing for their long term strategy.I think there is a lot more overlap then you think. and it's a mind share thing. ps has no exclusives... I can just buy them on PC...
But if they keep releasing games that are more than a couple of years old, then I think minimal damage will happen.
I wonder how much sales these games are doing. Rumor has it Horizon and Days gone are between 1-2 million? If so, is it really worth releasing these games on PC?
Replaying God of War.I spent a long time trying to glitch boy but I don't think I ever succeeded. Did manage to make him reliably teleport though.
I think I saw my first bug?
I am sure there was another one that I've forgotten.
Boy got stuck. :(