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Title: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 05, 2019, 08:19 PM
I have way too many games!

I'm going to use this thread to catalogue going through them. Feel free to share stuff related to your backlog too.

My major backlog games are Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Kingdom Hearts 3, Sekiro, Detroit, and AC Odyssey. What should I play first?


PlayStation:
Sekiro
Kingdom Hearts 3
Detroit
AC Odyssey
Shadow of the Tomb Raider
Nioh
Persona 5
Monster Hunter World
What Remains of Edith Finch
Hitman
Titan Souls
Nova 111
Rain
Dead Space 3
Remember Me
Xcom 2
Spec Ops The Line
Absolver
Mad Max
Mighty Number 9
Ratchet and Clank
Bloodborne
Rime
Deus Ex Mankind Divided
Just Cause 3
Until Dawn
ABZU
Tearaway Unfolded
LBP3
Zombi
Transistor
Rebel Galaxy
Tropico 5
Dead Star
Game of Thrones Telltale
Tales of the Borderlands
Dragon Age Inquisition
Control
Anthem
The Outer Worlds
Conan Exiles
SOMA
Ether One
Erica
Ghost of Tsushima

PC:
Riven
Stephen's Sausage Roll
Parallax
The Turing Test
The Talos Principle DLC
Undertale
Anno 1800
Kingdom Come Deliverance
A Total War Saga: Troy
Firewatch
Her Story
Inside
Tacoma

Switch:
Mario+Rabbids

Vita:
Murasaki Baby
Dokuro
Machinarium
Freedom Wars
Helldivers

3DS:
Super Mario 3D Land

Wii:
Metroid Other M
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Aug 05, 2019, 08:35 PM
Probably Detroit because it's short
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: nnodley on Aug 05, 2019, 10:21 PM
I mean odyssey is a massive time sink.  I've put over 100 hours into the base game and all the DLC.  So i'd run through some shorter games like Detroit first.

Fantastic game though
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Aug 06, 2019, 12:16 PM
I'm currently playing DOOM again, trying to finish the campaign that is. Great game but a bit exhausting due to all the non stop action lol.
Finished 2 levels last night. Went to Hell and back!
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 06, 2019, 05:15 PM
Oh I should play doom too!

Also I decided to include Vita and 3DS games into this mix. I'll integrate it into the game database at some point, but I've updated the OP with my full backlog.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Aug 06, 2019, 08:21 PM
Oh I should play doom too!

Also I decided to include Vita and 3DS games into this mix. I'll integrate it into the game database at some point, but I've updated the OP with my full backlog.
You didn't play until dawn??
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 06, 2019, 09:46 PM
You didn't play until dawn??
I watched a playthrough a long time ago, I think it was Easy Allies. I still want to play the game myself.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 09, 2019, 11:43 PM
Doing Detroit. Really liking it a lot.

It's cool how it merges video game tropes with androids.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 11, 2019, 05:48 PM
I am doing great in Detroit with two of the androids, but Conner is just funny haha. I've had a hard time pinning down what his partner wants and now he hates me. The flowchart shows that the majority of people are not making the same dumb mistakes  :P
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 12, 2019, 06:51 AM
Yeah Detroit is really really good!
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 15, 2019, 03:51 AM
Finished Detroit! Solid 9/10!!!

Best of heavy rain and beyond plus some new.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Aug 15, 2019, 11:54 AM
Yeah detroit is really great, glad you liked it.

Out of your list I'd say you have to play bloodborne next, its one of the best games of the generation and for sure the best game on your list. If you're still in the mood for that kind of game then also Sekiro. I'm about 10 hours into Sekiro and really liking it but I left it at my Uni flat so haven't been able to play it this summer >:(

I didn't enjoy AC Odyssey and dropped it after like 20 hours, its a friggin' long game so if you're not enjoying it 10-15 hours in just let go of it. The first 5 hours or so are fantastic but then it quickly becomes repetitive and boring with the story becoming less interesting and less a part of the game as the open world just gets way too big for its own good.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 15, 2019, 12:44 PM
Yeah detroit is really great, glad you liked it.

Out of your list I'd say you have to play bloodborne next, its one of the best games of the generation and for sure the best game on your list. If you're still in the mood for that kind of game then also Sekiro. I'm about 10 hours into Sekiro and really liking it but I left it at my Uni flat so haven't been able to play it this summer >:(

I didn't enjoy AC Odyssey and dropped it after like 20 hours, its a friggin' long game so if you're not enjoying it 10-15 hours in just let go of it. The first 5 hours or so are fantastic but then it quickly becomes repetitive and boring with the story becoming less interesting and less a part of the game as the open world just gets way too big for its own good.
Why did you forget the game!?  

I'm actually replaying Bloodborne right now.  It's so fricken good.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Aug 15, 2019, 12:51 PM
Why did you forget the game!?  

I'm actually replaying Bloodborne right now.  It's so fricken good.  
I don't know why  :(

I have a big draw full of games and I guess I just forgot about sekiro while I was packing to go home for summer and I didn't see it because I've got too many games in that draw!

Yeah bloodborne is fantastic. I tried to get into it again and play Old Hunters but I was awful and out of practice and didn't have the patience to try and get good again.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 15, 2019, 01:25 PM
Yeah bloodborne is fantastic. I tried to get into it again and play Old Hunters but I was awful and out of practice and didn't have the patience to try and get good again.
Noob.   8)

I'm kidding.  

I am a little rusty replaying it this time.  Not much though.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Aug 15, 2019, 03:52 PM
I have a spreadsheet with the games I need to finish.  I actually popped in Vagrant Story this morning.  Still makes me want to stab my eyes out
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 15, 2019, 11:12 PM
I have a spreadsheet with the games I need to finish.  I actually popped in Vagrant Story this morning.  Still makes me want to stab my eyes out
Well that doesn't sound like a fun game  :P
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 16, 2019, 04:58 PM

PS3:
-Killzone 2
-Killzone 3


PS4/PS5:
- Dark Souls
- Dark Souls 2
- Dark Souls 3
-Killzone ShadowFall
- Knack 2
- LittleBigPlanet 3
- Metal Gear Solid V
- Nioh
- Sekiro
- Skyrim
- Spider-man
-World of Final Fantasy

PC:

-Binding of Isaac
-Borderlands
-Borderlands 2
-Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel
-Braid
-Call of Duty: Black Ops 3
-Child of Light
-Cities: Skylines
-DarkSiders
-Dead Rising 2
-Dead Space
-Deus Ex
-Dishonored
-Dragon Age Origins
-Elder Scrolls III
-Elder Scrolls IV
-Fallout 3
-Fallout New Vegas
-Far Cry 3
-Far Cry 4
-Half Life
-Half Life 2
-Half Life 2: Episode 1
-Half Life 2: Episode 2
-L.A. Noire
-The Last Remnant
-Mass Effect
-Mass Effect 2
-Metro 2033
-Metro Last Light
-Mirror's Edge
-Portal 1
-Rage
-Remember Me
-Resident Evil 4
-Resident Evil 5
-Resident Evil Revelations
-Resident Evil Revelations 2
-Rime
-Ryse
-Saints Row IV
-Sleeping Dogs
-Star Dew Valley
-Tomb Raider
-Undertale
-The Walking Dead
-The Walking Dead 2
-Watch Dogs
-The Witcher
-The Witcher 2
-The Witcher 3
-The Witness



Games I want to get:
-Beyond
-Detroit
-Ghost of Tsushima
-Heavy Rain
-InFamous Second Son
-Monster Hunter World
-Red Dead Redemption
-Red Dead Redemption 2
-Resistance
-Resistance 2
-Resistance  3
-Rise of the Tomb Raider
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 31, 2019, 05:15 PM
Almost done with Bloodborne.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: nnodley on Aug 31, 2019, 10:45 PM
finally finished pokemon: lets go
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 24, 2019, 07:43 AM
I played telltale game of thrones. It was really bad. Fun characters but the writing was a joke. Was my first telltale game. Don't think I'll bother with more because 90% of my enjoyment came from being a got fan.

One dumb thing they did was stick to the plot of the show. Every thing was super lame and felt like it didn't matter. Really sucked with Ramsey being a bad guy since you knew you couldn't kill him.

Writing was just so forced. I'll have to look it up but it sure felt like a mostly linear story with superficial open elements.

Also felt like I was punished for actually thinking about things. There was a really good youtube video I saw not too long ago about how game morality systems really force you to pick what the game wants instead of picking what you want and this game is another example of that.


Spoiler for Hidden:
Fudge Duncen. He was high up in my court and the game made him seem good but instead he just sucked.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Oct 24, 2019, 08:26 AM
I played telltale game of thrones. It was really bad. Fun characters but the writing was a joke. Was my first telltale game. Don't think I'll bother with more because 90% of my enjoyment came from being a got fan.

One dumb thing they did was stick to the plot of the show. Every thing was super lame and felt like it didn't matter. Really sucked with Ramsey being a bad guy since you knew you couldn't kill him.

Writing was just so forced. I'll have to look it up but it sure felt like a mostly linear story with superficial open elements.

Also felt like I was punished for actually thinking about things. There was a really good youtube video I saw not too long ago about how game morality systems really force you to pick what the game wants instead of picking what you want and this game is another example of that.


Spoiler for Hidden:
Fudge Duncen. He was high up in my court and the game made him seem good but instead he just sucked.

Yep its a bad game, I'd advise everyone against playing it ;D

I haven't played much telltale but GoT is regarded as their worst work I'm pretty sure. Tales of the Borderlands on the other hand is fantastic, and I'd recommend playing that so you can see what telltale can do at their best. The gameplay is still very boring though.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 24, 2019, 03:10 PM
Yep its a bad game, I'd advise everyone against playing it ;D

I haven't played much telltale but GoT is regarded as their worst work I'm pretty sure. Tales of the Borderlands on the other hand is fantastic, and I'd recommend playing that so you can see what telltale can do at their best. The gameplay is still very boring though.
I guess I'll still try tales of the borderlands since I also have that one.

I was fine with the slow gameplay but I think it made me expect more from my choices. Looking it up online it seems everyone dies for everyone.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 07, 2019, 11:16 PM
Crossed off Detroit and Rime. Added Dragon Age Inquisition.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Dec 08, 2019, 10:45 AM
Crossed off Detroit and Rime. Added Dragon Age Inquisition.
That's a very long commitment that might not hold up all that well in 2019. I guess it depends on your taste.

I've actually developed a bit of a backlog for the first time ever. I bought and still want to play:

PS4:
Sekiro Shadows Die Twice

PC:
Ys Memories of Calceta
Crosscode
The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky
The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky SC
Grim Dawn

And I have a few games that I want to buy as well but I'm holding off on until I get through these.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Dec 08, 2019, 12:18 PM
Yep its a bad game, I'd advise everyone against playing it ;D

I haven't played much telltale but GoT is regarded as their worst work I'm pretty sure. Tales of the Borderlands on the other hand is fantastic, and I'd recommend playing that so you can see what telltale can do at their best. The gameplay is still very boring though.
The walking dead season 1 is great too
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 08, 2019, 02:37 PM
Replayed Uncharted 1, 2, Bloodborne.

Bought Spiderman, Sekiro and World of Final Fantasy
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 08, 2019, 04:03 PM
That's a very long commitment that might not hold up all that well in 2019. I guess it depends on your taste.

I've actually developed a bit of a backlog for the first time ever. I bought and still want to play:

PS4:
Sekiro Shadows Die Twice

PC:
Ys Memories of Calceta
Crosscode
The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky
The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky SC
Grim Dawn

And I have a few games that I want to buy as well but I'm holding off on until I get through these.
I don't expect to love it but I want to get a good understanding of the systems and the general game feel since I'm making my own RPG.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Dec 11, 2019, 05:18 PM
I started Nier: Automata about a month ago.  I've owned it since launch and only recently openned it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 11, 2019, 05:46 PM
I started Nier: Automata about a month ago.  I've owned it since launch and only recently openned it.
I loved it. Amazing soundtrack and the multiple playthroughs worked better than I expected.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 11, 2019, 08:47 PM
Done with Stephen's Sausage Roll. It's not very good.

The puzzles are very well designed so I understand why it got a lot of praise but it just isn't fun to play. Maybe there is some twist coming up so I'll just watch a playthrough to double check but it's just not a great concept imo.

The puzzles are super restrictive with essentially only one way to solve them. That's fine but the method of solving them essentially boils down to blindly exploring a building. You start with 3 doors in front of you, pick one randomly/intuitly, and then progress to the next room to pick the next door. Eventually you will hit a dead end and backtrack.

The only puzzle in the game is noticing/discovering all of the available doors. Half the time the realisation that there is a door/action you missed is good feeling like an aha moment, while the other half of the time it's just an annoying thing that you didn't see coming.

I gave up on the game after 3 hours since the puzzles started getting more and more complex yet weren't expanding on this fundamental structure.


In my opinion it is not a good game unless you have plenty of free time and nothing else to do.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Dec 12, 2019, 02:37 AM
I loved it. Amazing soundtrack and the multiple playthroughs worked better than I expected.
Yeah.  I played about half of the first game.  I loved it.  But I also triggered an even that locked a lot of side quests so I traded it in.  I didn't have the 300 hours to grind in that game to get the c and d endings anyways.  I'm in the second playthrough now.  It's on the back burner.  But so's everything.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 30, 2019, 05:51 PM
Finished with Absolver. Was kinda fun but I wasn't feeling enough of a drive to continue.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Dec 30, 2019, 08:55 PM
Just bought Superhot VR on sale to add to my massive backlog. I'm gonna play it soon though
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 30, 2019, 09:21 PM
Just bought Superhot VR on sale to add to my massive backlog. I'm gonna play it soon though
Do you have PSVR?  

I don't think I'd play it on psvr.  

Oculus tracking is just so much better.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Dec 30, 2019, 11:01 PM
Do you have PSVR?  

I don't think I'd play it on psvr.  

Oculus tracking is just so much better.  
I do indeed. Well astrobot is pretty dang great so I hope Superhot is too (I guess you can use either move or the controller?)
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 31, 2019, 02:09 AM
I do indeed. Well astrobot is pretty dang great so I hope Superhot is too (I guess you can use either move or the controller?)
Superhot is a different kind of game compared to Astrobot.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Dec 31, 2019, 11:19 AM
Superhot is a different kind of game compared to Astrobot.  
Lulz I know
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Apr 20, 2020, 08:37 PM
Playing what remains of edith finch.

I'm actually beating my backlog!
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Apr 21, 2020, 01:24 AM
Playing what remains of edith finch.

I'm actually beating my backlog!
same.  

TLoU is done.  moving onto the uncharted 4 dlc.  

up next is either gravity rush 2, spiderman, valkaria chronicles 4, or tomb raider 2 and 3.    

 lots more games in my backlog but if i finish these i'll be satisfied with my ps4 collection play through completions. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Apr 22, 2020, 02:40 AM
I'm doing a level a week in Nightshade/Kunoichi.  Though I will probably get to the last boss and give up like I did with Shinobi.  I started up FFXV again.  But on PC.  I'm about 3/4th through Breath of Fire 2.  It's a grind.  Finished RE3 Remake, I've been playing through the OG for comparison.  But I'm using cheats just to play through it.  That's about all.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Apr 22, 2020, 03:13 PM
What remains of Edith Finch is amazing.

I went in not expecting much but it's one of the best games I have ever played. Very original and a proper followup to Unfinished Swan, which was one of my favorite PS3 games.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on May 02, 2020, 05:20 AM
Started Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Really cool so far.

It's making me excited for Valhalla. RPG elements in AC fit really well. Will probably switch to easy to avoid grinding.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on May 15, 2020, 11:15 PM
Finished Assassin's Creed Odyssey. Liked it a lot more than Origins but it also had some pretty big flaws. Solid 7-8/10 I'd say.

Was really cool seeing ancient Greece from all the stories. Unlike Origins however it didn't feel like traveling to the past. All the locations felt like game locations instead of real historically accurate places.

Combat had some jank which sucked. I died so many times from mechanics being inconsistent, mainly platforming. Very annoying getting "stuck" on a wall because the game couldn't just let you drop down. Kicking people off buildings was great.

Dialogue was horrible at times. I liked the story overall but towards the end it really really fell apart. None of the endings made sense and characters changed emotions on a dime.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on May 16, 2020, 02:01 PM
My friends found Dauntless.  It's all I've been playing.  So my backlog is not getting finished.  I was trying to finish FF15 since I can't pick up my copy of the FF7 remake.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on May 19, 2020, 09:15 PM
Crossing off Ether One.

I mistook this game for the vanishing of Ethan Carter I guess. Was very disorienting. Not really that good and after I managed to get stuck behind a wall in the first level, I gave it up. Definitely needed more of an intro to at least set the stage. I think the game just assumed that the player had at least seen a trailer.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on May 22, 2020, 03:46 PM
Finished SOMA.

Great game. Not at all what I was expecting. Had only heard general things about it and didn't realize it was the Amnesia devs. Going in with very little prior knowledge was amazing.

Towards the end it started to falter a bit so I think it's more like an 8/10 but the early game and some later game moments are super perfect.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on May 23, 2020, 08:54 PM
ABZU was a poor Journey replica with poor controls, yet the ending was so good that I think I liked it overall.


It made me want to replay Journey.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Jun 16, 2020, 07:21 PM
I finished the outer worlds. Was ok. Kinda slow. Definitely enjoyed lots of things about it though.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 09, 2020, 02:34 PM
.
Update:

PS3:

-Demon's Souls
-God of War 3
-Killzone 2
-Killzone 3


PS4:

-God of War
-Horizon DLC
-Killzone ShadowFall
-Kingdom Hearts 3
-Knack 2
-LittleBigPlanet 3
-Medieval
-Metal Gear Solid V
-Nioh
-Sekiro
-Spider-man
-Uncharted: Lost Legacy
-World of Final Fantasy



Games I want to get:
-Beyond
-Detroit
-Heavy Rain

-InFamous Second Son
-Monster Hunter World
-Red Dead Redemption
-Red Dead Redemption 2
-Resistance
-Resistance 2
-Resistance  3
-Rise of the Tomb Raider

-Death Stranding
-Ghost of Tsushima


Games I want to replay:
-Bloodborne
-Portal 2
-The Last of Us
-Uncharted 1
-Uncharted 2

-Uncharted 3



Not many changes.  Been playing Uncharted Lost Legacy.  Which is crazy. Been a long time since I've played like this.  


It's great so far.  

My only complaint is that Chloe feels a bit harder to control.  I think mostly because she moves a lot faster than Drake ever does.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jul 09, 2020, 02:43 PM
Update:

PS3:

-Demon's Souls
-God of War 3
-Killzone 2
-Killzone 3


Not many changes.  Been playing Uncharted Lost Legacy.  Which is crazy. Been a long time since I've played like this.  


It's great so far.  

My only complaint is that Chloe feels a bit harder to control.  I think mostly because she moves a lot faster than Drake ever does.  
at this point you should just move demon's souls from your ps3 backlog to your ps5 backlog.   the game is better with the online and the online will be much better on the remaaster.


Lost Legacy was fantastic.  I think it was better than U4 and probably my second favorite entry after U2.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 09, 2020, 02:48 PM
at this point you should just move demon's souls from your ps3 backlog to your ps5 backlog.   the game is better with the online and the online will be much better on the remaaster.
That's what ive started planning to do.  Not really because of online, I just would like those graphics.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Jul 09, 2020, 03:30 PM
I'm starting to move backlog games to ps5. Some ps4 games will be so much better with less loading.

Also last night I was thinking just how crazy series x will be as a backlog machine. I'll be able to play morrowind and oblivion without pulling out old hardware.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jul 09, 2020, 03:45 PM
I'm starting to move backlog games to ps5. Some ps4 games will be so much better with less loading.

Also last night I was thinking just how crazy series x will be as a backlog machine. I'll be able to play morrowind and oblivion without pulling out old hardware.
yeah, i might actually try to play though LBP3 if the load times are mostly eliminated.   i only got about half way through before I became too frustrated with the horrible load times.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 09, 2020, 03:47 PM
I'm starting to move backlog games to ps5. Some ps4 games will be so much better with less loading.

Also last night I was thinking just how crazy series x will be as a backlog machine. I'll be able to play morrowind and oblivion without pulling out old hardware.
If only PS5 could play PS3 games.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 10, 2020, 04:39 AM
Will finish tomorrow.  

Easily better than 1 and 3.  

I put it up there with 2 and 4 as the best 3 games.

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>Weirdly feels like:<br>Uncharted 4 gameplay<br>Uncharted 4 art style and graphics<br>Uncharted 2 + 4 aesthetic uses a lot of definite 4 art, but there is a lot of stuff that reminds me of the dagger and Nepal stuff in Uncharted 2. &nbsp;<br>
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Jul 10, 2020, 03:58 PM
I finished the outer worlds. Was ok. Kinda slow. Definitely enjoyed lots of things about it though.
I picked it up for Switch.  I've been having trouble with it too.  It's a slog.  Not terrible, but I regret buying it.  The item management systems is also way too old school.  It's a bit daunting.

Oh, I finished RE7 last week.

And am on the last boss for FF15
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Jul 15, 2020, 05:20 PM
I finished my replay of the OG RE 3.  I wanted to compare it with the remake.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 15, 2020, 05:26 PM
Started Medieval. But I kind of think it might be better for PS5.  Bunch of loading screens.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Jul 15, 2020, 06:14 PM
I never used to build up backlogs so I barely bothered with this thread, but here I am now!

Definitely playing:

F1 2020 (currently playing, PS4)
Xenoblade Chronicles DE (currently playing, Switch)
Ori and the Will of the Whisps (PC)
Halo the Master Chief Collection (PC)
Rise of the Tomb Raider (PS4)
Control (PS4)

Maybe playing:

Ys Memories of Calceta (PC)
The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky (PC)
The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky SC (PC)

The above are still on my list from the only time I made a small list in this thread, lol. I guess I just don't care enough about playing them but I haven't given up on them yet.

Ghost of Tsushima should be arriving tomorrow and I'll probably play that through to the end before I pick anything else back up.

Will finish tomorrow. 

Easily better than 1 and 3. 

I put it up there with 2 and 4 as the best 3 games.

Spoiler for Hidden:

Weirdly feels like:
Uncharted 4 gameplay
Uncharted 4 art style and graphics
Uncharted 2 + 4 aesthetic uses a lot of definite 4 art, but there is a lot of stuff that reminds me of the dagger and Nepal stuff in Uncharted 2. 

Uncharted TLL is fantastic, the ending set piece is the best Uncharted set piece too.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jul 15, 2020, 06:53 PM
Started Medieval. But I kind of think it might be better for PS5.  Bunch of loading screens.
oh yeah, let me know how this game feels to you.  i've been kind of 50/50 on picking this game up.   it looks like my kind of game but at the same time i've felt a little burnt on some of the remasters i purchased this gen.   not that they were bad games but as a guy who never played the original (and thus no nostalgia) some of the quirks of the ps2 era (like save points) are annoying enough to reduce my enjoyment.  

was kind of afraid that medevil would fall into that category for me.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jul 15, 2020, 08:32 PM
I never used to build up backlogs so I barely bothered with this thread, but here I am now!

Definitely playing:

F1 2020 (currently playing, PS4)
Xenoblade Chronicles DE (currently playing, Switch)
Ori and the Will of the Whisps (PC)
Halo the Master Chief Collection (PC)
Rise of the Tomb Raider (PS4)
Control (PS4)

Maybe playing:

Ys Memories of Calceta (PC)
The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky (PC)
The Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky SC (PC)

The above are still on my list from the only time I made a small list in this thread, lol. I guess I just don't care enough about playing them but I haven't given up on them yet.

Ghost of Tsushima should be arriving tomorrow and I'll probably play that through to the end before I pick anything else back up.
Uncharted TLL is fantastic, the ending set piece is the best Uncharted set piece too.
How is F1?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Jul 15, 2020, 09:08 PM
How is F1?
Its great, probably the biggest yearly jump for any F1 game. My team mode is a great addition.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 23, 2020, 09:46 PM
Added some games to my backlog  :'(

PS4:
Final Fantasy VIII Remastered
Battlefield 1 (it was $3 on the summer sale).

oh yeah, let me know how this game feels to you.  i've been kind of 50/50 on picking this game up.   it looks like my kind of game but at the same time i've felt a little burnt on some of the remasters i purchased this gen.   not that they were bad games but as a guy who never played the original (and thus no nostalgia) some of the quirks of the ps2 era (like save points) are annoying enough to reduce my enjoyment.  

was kind of afraid that medevil would fall into that category for me.
You might like it.  
Saves are a little annoying. Some larger levels and the game saves automatically only when you finish a level.  But not too bothersome for me.  

Loading is more bothersome. Like 6 second load to the map, 6 second load to a level.  I don't know the exact length, just that it's longer than I'd like.

Other than those issues, its a decent amount of fun.  


Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jul 23, 2020, 10:13 PM
Added some games to my backlog  :'(

PS4:
Final Fantasy VIII Remastered
Battlefield 1 (it was $3 on the summer sale).
You might like it.  
Saves are a little annoying. Some larger levels and the game saves automatically only when you finish a level.  But not too bothersome for me.  

Loading is more bothersome. Like 6 second load to the map, 6 second load to a level.  I don't know the exact length, just that it's longer than I'd like.

Other than those issues, its a decent amount of fun.  



yeah, might still pick it up but leaning towards no on that review.  i have quite the backlog already so i don't really need to spend more on only average games. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Jul 28, 2020, 09:16 PM
Played through Ghost and played more of F1 and Xenoblade. My thoughts on Ghost are in that thread, in short I give it 9.1/10 its fantastic.

XC is pretty good but its an RPG I'm already getting fairly tired with yet again. So many quests that are just: read a load of textboxes about some random shame -> teleport somewhere -> kill x amount of enemies / pick x of something up -> teleport and go back and read through textboxes about random shame again. Some are streamlined and don't make you return which is nice but some are really annoying in that the NPC/ enemy is only around at a certain time of day with no indication when so you just have to trial and error time skip until they appear, its just dumb. Also quest markers on the map don't show unless you're in that map area so you have to teleport somewhere first just to check the map to see the markers and teleport again. You have to do lots of side quests to keep up with the level for the main quest even though they're rubbish and boring, but that's just how most RPGs work.

The game's combat system is interesting but a little messy and awkward to manage sometimes. The story is good but delivery is weird and it feels especially bad after playing through two Sony games recently. Overall after 17 hours I'm just not seeing how this game earned an 89 review average in 2020, but RPGs and JRPGs especially often are forgiven for so much tedium and bad design that it doesn't really surprise me. I skipped over a lot that I am liking about the game though, I still think it feels like a 7/10 so far perhaps.

Also started in Control. Its weird and runs like dog on base PS4, those are my main two observations so far. I'm liking it though, definitely looking forward to playing it through to the end.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 28, 2020, 09:28 PM
I'm having a harder and harder time justifying playing Medievil.  

Early on, it was definitely a lot of fun.  

But the annoyances have been building up.  Dying in a level, might mean having to redo a fairly large section.  

It averages about 9 hrs according to howlongtobeat.  

20 levels apparently. That's like 27 minutes a level.  Redoing a level can be annoying enough.  Getting stuck on a level a few times is that much worse.  

I think I'd recommend getting it real cheap and deciding if it's something you want to put up with.  

So far I'm leaning towards yes, but it has been going the other way.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jul 28, 2020, 11:20 PM
Played through Ghost and played more of F1 and Xenoblade. My thoughts on Ghost are in that thread, in short I give it 9.1/10 its fantastic.

XC is pretty good but its an RPG I'm already getting fairly tired with yet again. So many quests that are just: read a load of textboxes about some random shame -> teleport somewhere -> kill x amount of enemies / pick x of something up -> teleport and go back and read through textboxes about random shame again. Some are streamlined and don't make you return which is nice but some are really annoying in that the NPC/ enemy is only around at a certain time of day with no indication when so you just have to trial and error time skip until they appear, its just dumb. Also quest markers on the map don't show unless you're in that map area so you have to teleport somewhere first just to check the map to see the markers and teleport again. You have to do lots of side quests to keep up with the level for the main quest even though they're rubbish and boring, but that's just how most RPGs work.

The game's combat system is interesting but a little messy and awkward to manage sometimes. The story is good but delivery is weird and it feels especially bad after playing through two Sony games recently. Overall after 17 hours I'm just not seeing how this game earned an 89 review average in 2020, but RPGs and JRPGs especially often are forgiven for so much tedium and bad design that it doesn't really surprise me. I skipped over a lot that I am liking about the game though, I still think it feels like a 7/10 so far perhaps.

Also started in Control. Its weird and runs like dog on base PS4, those are my main two observations so far. I'm liking it though, definitely looking forward to playing it through to the end.
Interested to hear more about control. Some people called it one of their favorite games  :o

I added spyro trilogy and dmc5 to my massive backlog lol. Also have not touched Mario Rabbids Xcom game

I have made some progress in Super Mario though. Finished metro city I think. I wonder how far into it I am.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Jul 29, 2020, 01:08 AM
Interested to hear more about control. Some people called it one of their favorite games  :o

I added spyro trilogy and dmc5 to my massive backlog lol. Also have not touched Mario Rabbids Xcom game

I have made some progress in Super Mario though. Finished metro city I think. I wonder how far into it I am.
Yeah maybe the story will blow me away but the performance is pretty jarring coming off a game like GoT. Load times are so long and the game ffreezes occasionally, seems to be consistently below 30fps. Its bizarre. I heard it was bad at launch which is why I never got it but I figured they'd have fixed it by now.

The story and setting so far is just weird too and not neccessarily in a good way yet. I'm definitely seeing why it got low 80s on meta/ open for sure but its wild to me that it still won about 30 GOTY awards with that metascore and with my experience so far. It feels like it could be a very solid 8/10 game (not considering performance) but we'll see.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jul 29, 2020, 01:18 AM
Yeah maybe the story will blow me away but the performance is pretty jarring coming off a game like GoT. Load times are so long and the game ffreezes occasionally, seems to be consistently below 30fps. Its bizarre. I heard it was bad at launch which is why I never got it but I figured they'd have fixed it by now.

The story and setting so far is just weird too and not neccessarily in a good way yet. I'm definitely seeing why it got low 80s on meta/ open for sure but its wild to me that it still won about 30 GOTY awards with that metascore and with my experience so far. It feels like it could be a very solid 8/10 game (not considering performance) but we'll see.
Yeah seems like it had problems on all consoles, but the least in xb1x.
Control on console is brilliant - as long as you play on the right hardware • Eurogamer.net (https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-control-console-face-off)
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 29, 2020, 04:36 AM
Now I'm feeling better about it.  

Really comes down to a couple atrocious levels.  One of which has some of the worst frame rate drops ive seen on console.

As a game I like 80% of it so far.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jul 29, 2020, 02:56 PM
i really want to play control but saw all the performance issues.  i'm going to hold out for the inevitable better running version on ps5.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Jul 29, 2020, 03:47 PM
i really want to play control but saw all the performance issues.  i'm going to hold out for the inevitable better running version on ps5.
It's already announced btw
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Aug 01, 2020, 03:18 PM
Well Control was shame. 29 game of the year awards? I don't think I've ever been so utterly baffled.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 01, 2020, 04:24 PM
I'm about 60% done with Medievil. Not able to play very much.  

But overall I would say:
9/10 at its best.  
5/10 at its worst.  
8/10 overall probably.  

The game gets easier if you do different levels.  If you are having trouble with one, sometimes it helps immensely to go to the other level that's available.  Getting different weapons that make it possible to kill a type of enemy. Getting health boosts.  
It makes it feel like there's a specific order that the levels should be played.

And again, the levels are on the larger side with no checkpoints. Which for the most part hasn't been an issue.  But it means if you die in a level, it might end up being 30 minutes to an hour before you make any progress.  

Load times again are on the high end.  Load to the map, load a level is quite lengthy.  


Well Control was shame. 29 game of the year awards? I don't think I've ever been so utterly baffled.
I'm curious.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 01, 2020, 04:29 PM
i really want to play control but saw all the performance issues.  i'm going to hold out for the inevitable better running version on ps5.
I never really had performance issues that affected my enjoyment. It was really only during fights that felt kinda crazy in my experience.

Well Control was shame. 29 game of the year awards? I don't think I've ever been so utterly baffled.
Aw, so I see you reached the ending huh? I guess I never posted my thoughts on it.

Great amazing game up till the ending starts. Really baffling.

Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Aug 01, 2020, 04:34 PM
I'm curious.  
Performance is absolutely terrible, which isn't a good start. The game is so weird but it thinks its the best thing ever so it takes itself so seriously, I couldn't help but laugh at some moments. The story is just bad and uninteresting and told in such a weird convoluted way. The ending is also just so awful and anti-climactic, I literally burst out laughing.

Encounter design is bad, all the rooms are small and it often gets very messy. It can get difficult because you're in a small space with loads of enemies around you, you can't keep track of all of them and they all do attacks which kill you in 2 or 3 hits. The fps drops dramatically in combat constantly which often causes death. Then you get hit with a 1minute+ loading screen to respawn and it takes ages to get back to where you were from the respawn point. The levels are fairly small and linear yet fast travel also takes about a minute sometimes.

The actual gameplay is okay but there's nothing particularly special about it. You just have a few different weapon forms but can only switch between two at a time, which is odd. Then there's dodging and launching items at enemies which are just kind of basic third person style systems. There's a somewhat interesting upgrade system but its overall pretty basic. You can get weapon and player mods that allow for slightly different builds but they're small upgrades and you can't have many so its not that important.

I guess its an overall fairly competently constructed third person video game. The graphics are pretty good. World design is interesting and there's lots of side missions and stuff to do if you happen to actually enjoy playing.

I think overall I'd give it a 5/10, one of the worst games I've played on PS4.

I never really had performance issues that affected my enjoyment. It was really only during fights that felt kinda crazy in my experience.
Aw, so I see you reached the ending huh? I guess I never posted my thoughts on it.

Great amazing game up till the ending starts. Really baffling.
Well I disagree on the great amazing part. I though it was pretty meh and wasn't enjoying myself so I rushed to the ending, and the ending was just awful and cemented my negative feelings.

I can understand why people might like it, especially if they play it on a platform where Remedy actually bothered to make it run decently. But I wouldn't even say any single part of the game is great or amazing never mind the game overall.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 01, 2020, 05:03 PM
Performance is absolutely terrible, which isn't a good start. The game is so weird but it thinks its the best thing ever so it takes itself so seriously, I couldn't help but laugh at some moments. The story is just bad and uninteresting and told in such a weird convoluted way. The ending is also just so awful and anti-climactic, I literally burst out laughing.

Encounter design is bad, all the rooms are small and it often gets very messy. It can get difficult because you're in a small space with loads of enemies around you, you can't keep track of all of them and they all do attacks which kill you in 2 or 3 hits. The fps drops dramatically in combat constantly which often causes death. Then you get hit with a 1minute+ loading screen to respawn and it takes ages to get back to where you were from the respawn point. The levels are fairly small and linear yet fast travel also takes about a minute sometimes.

The actual gameplay is okay but there's nothing particularly special about it. You just have a few different weapon forms but can only switch between two at a time, which is odd. Then there's dodging and launching items at enemies which are just kind of basic third person style systems. There's a somewhat interesting upgrade system but its overall pretty basic. You can get weapon and player mods that allow for slightly different builds but they're small upgrades and you can't have many so its not that important.

I guess its an overall fairly competently constructed third person video game. The graphics are pretty good. World design is interesting and there's lots of side missions and stuff to do if you happen to actually enjoy playing.

I think overall I'd give it a 5/10, one of the worst games I've played on PS4.
Well I disagree on the great amazing part. I though it was pretty meh and wasn't enjoying myself so I rushed to the ending, and the ending was just awful and cemented my negative feelings.

I can understand why people might like it, especially if they play it on a platform where Remedy actually bothered to make it run decently. But I wouldn't even say any single part of the game is great or amazing never mind the game overall.
You rushed...

Did you miss the fridge?


I took my time with it and really enjoyed reading documents and thinking about the world. If the game didn't hook you early on, I can only imagine how horrible most of it was.


Will need to pull out my play notes to see if I agreed with you on some of the combat things.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Aug 01, 2020, 05:11 PM
You rushed...

Did you miss the fridge?


I took my time with it and really enjoyed reading documents and thinking about the world. If the game didn't hook you early on, I can only imagine how horrible most of it was.


Will need to pull out my play notes to see if I agreed with you on some of the combat things.

Yes I think its definitely one of those spiral games. If it hooks you and you get into it its more rewarding but if it doesn't you end up with an experience like mine.

I started the fridge thing but died to the boss first time and couldn't be bothered to try again. The boss knocked a part of the floor away near the edge of the map and I didn't have the floor on my screen so I didn't realise that there was no floor anymore and yeah... When I just straight up died and had to wait a minute to respawn again I though well fudge that and moved on.

Basically a good summary of a lot of my experience with the game.

I think after about main mission 3 or 4 I didn't bother with a single side mission, I was already fed up. Edit: it was after one of those pop up timed missions. I went through a minute load screen to teleport to the place it was telling me to go and then made my way from the control point, the game lagged to hell and I died and apparently failed the mission. Took a minute to respawn and then a minute to travel back to where I was. After that I was like holy shame this game is just wasting so much of my time and decided not to do any side shame after that. The fridge was an exception because it was easy to start and I wa intrigued. I thought it was pretty dumb anyway.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 01, 2020, 05:44 PM
Yes I think its definitely one of those spiral games. If it hooks you and you get into it its more rewarding but if it doesn't you end up with an experience like mine.

I started the fridge thing but died to the boss first time and couldn't be bothered to try again. The boss knocked a part of the floor away near the edge of the map and I didn't have the floor on my screen so I didn't realise that there was no floor anymore and yeah... When I just straight up died and had to wait a minute to respawn again I though well fudge that and moved on.

Basically a good summary of a lot of my experience with the game.

I think after about main mission 3 or 4 I didn't bother with a single side mission, I was already fed up. Edit: it was after one of those pop up timed missions. I went through a minute load screen to teleport to the place it was telling me to go and then made my way from the control point, the game lagged to hell and I died and apparently failed the mission. Took a minute to respawn and then a minute to travel back to where I was. After that I was like holy shame this game is just wasting so much of my time and decided not to do any side shame after that. The fridge was an exception because it was easy to start and I wa intrigued. I thought it was pretty dumb anyway.
I seemingly didn't take any notes or even post about the game before...

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>The fridge thing was so cool. After it I was really expecting a mindfuck of an ending which made the actual ending sting even more.<br><br>Those random missions sucked. I did one before never thinking about them again.<br><br>Your experience with the fridge monster was like mine with the mold monster. I was intrigued with the mold area but after dying a few times to the boss, I really didn&#39;t care to keep trying.<br><br><br><br>I think the fake ending was so stupid. When it happened I literally felt like the game was trolling me. No freaking way would the game just end after reaching the giant sphere whatcha call it. So then when the real ending was only like 30 minutes later with hardly any payoff, it just felt stupid. Like the worst game ending I&#39;ve ever experienced. Man I wish I had notes cause I&#39;m sure my reaction was a lot more harsh.<br>


Overall I'd rate it maybe a 7 or 8 out of 10. I wouldn't mind playing the dlc or a sequel.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 02, 2020, 04:29 AM
I'm about 60% done with Medievil. Not able to play very much.  

But overall I would say:
9/10 at its best.  
5/10 at its worst.  
8/10 overall probably.  

The game gets easier if you do different levels.  If you are having trouble with one, sometimes it helps immensely to go to the other level that's available.  Getting different weapons that make it possible to kill a type of enemy. Getting health boosts.  
It makes it feel like there's a specific order that the levels should be played.

And again, the levels are on the larger side with no checkpoints. Which for the most part hasn't been an issue.  But it means if you die in a level, it might end up being 30 minutes to an hour before you make any progress.  

Load times again are on the high end.  Load to the map, load a level is quite lengthy.  

Well the game is done. That puts me at 3 finished games the past few months. Which is probably more than I've done in a few years.

Thoughts remain the same.  

Decent game with some big issues. Particularly performance issues.



I thought it would be an easy platinum but two of the platinums require basically playing through the game again.  Which I'm not up for.


Part of me feels like I'm being generous with the score

Part of me wonders if I would have like this game more when I was younger.  Just drags on a lot.  

I'll say again. The game was fine.  Not great.

I think I'm going to go back to God of War 3. Finish up my PS3 backlog, the part that I care about at least.  

After that:
-try KH3 again
-replay Horizon
-God of War PS4
-Spiderman
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 09, 2020, 05:28 AM
God of War 3 is beaten.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 09, 2020, 05:45 AM
God of War 3 is beaten.
Your copy wasn't broken?

This SUCKS!!! My God of War 3 Copy is glitched wtf | NeoGAF (https://www.neogaf.com/threads/this-sucks-my-god-of-war-3-copy-is-glitched-wtf.963325/)
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 09, 2020, 10:31 AM
Your copy wasn't broken?

This SUCKS!!! My God of War 3 Copy is glitched wtf | NeoGAF (https://www.neogaf.com/threads/this-sucks-my-god-of-war-3-copy-is-glitched-wtf.963325/)
Well I did have a few glitches.  Mostly with the video player. Some of the cut scenes would repeat in the middle.

Also was a tad worried that the game did glitch. :P
Kind of weird how it's the only time where you basically dont follow the button prompt.

Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Aug 09, 2020, 02:32 PM
Working my way through Doom 2016. I'm pretty far in. It's pleasantly difficult at times.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 09, 2020, 04:55 PM
That thread is really great.  

OP switching thumbs, pausing the game, resetting the console.   ;D

I was thinking something was up after 30 seconds.  OP switches thumbs and is still trying to beat up Zeus.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 14, 2020, 10:07 PM
Played Erica.

Really loved how it controlled. Reminded me a bit of Heavy Rain with move controllers.

Enjoyable little movie game.

Now I can free up 40gb on my system!
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 29, 2020, 06:23 PM
Added a few games including ghost of tsushima. I have pretty much only explored it from a game developer point of view. Need to actually progress and play it.

Starting Kingdom Come Deliverance.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Aug 29, 2020, 07:27 PM
I played Halo 1 and 2 co-op with a friend who hadn't played them before either. They were good games, the first was better than the second although it suffered from its repeated level design towards the end. I can imagine how they might have been amazing when they first came out, especially with the multiplayer. For now though it just feels like another FPS series, albeit a good one.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 04, 2020, 12:45 AM
Finished Firewatch. Started incredibly good (go buffs) but ended pretty mixed. Some things felt like plot holes.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 04, 2020, 09:32 PM
Finished Her Story. Cool ideas. A lot to think about from a game design point of view.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 06, 2020, 07:55 PM
Finished The Turing Test. Pretty good but held back by some baffling bad elements. Like just an extra week of work could have brought it from a C+ to an B+ imo.

Spoiler for what I'm talking about.

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>Dear god the loading screens are trash. You are walking and out of nowhere poof the game cuts to black, has a super basic load screen, and then pops back in with you in a different location.<br><br>An extremely simple fade to black with text signifying a short passage of time would have done wonders. With a bit more time, could have had elevators like Portal.<br><br><br>It was so bad that I based my entire game theory around it lol.<br>



Outside of that the game also had a couple incredibly good moments. Was very glad I played it because it simultaneously impressed and disappointed.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 06, 2020, 07:57 PM
Almost got the rocket league platinum. Pretty easy play, didn't know I was so close. I only play the game occasionally.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: DerNebel on Sep 06, 2020, 08:07 PM
So I got the Uncharted 4 platinum, making this my 6th platinum... of the year. I seriously hope 13 Sentinels Aegis Rim (what a name) later this month is good, cause otherwise I'm dry until the PS5 comes out (assuming I'm able to get one, lol)...

The only things I have in my "backlog" are FFXV and Astral Chain. But I'd say that it'd be more fitting to say they are in my gaming graveyard as they both bored me to tears and will never be finished by me.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 06, 2020, 09:55 PM
Finished The Turing Test. Pretty good but held back by some baffling bad elements. Like just an extra week of work could have brought it from a C+ to an B+ imo.


it's on my list.  for a puzzle game fanatic give me a simple yes or no.   should i play it?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 06, 2020, 10:37 PM
it's on my list.  for a puzzle game fanatic give me a simple yes or no.   should i play it?
Yes.

Don't know how much you'll like it but it does interesting things. Have you played their previous game Pneuma Breath of Life?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 06, 2020, 11:47 PM
Yes.

Don't know how much you'll like it but it does interesting things. Have you played their previous game Pneuma Breath of Life?
also on my list.   sequel or just another game from the same studio?

i've been waiting for any sort of a sale on these but thus far have not seen them.   eventually i'll break down and buy them at full price because as i've said i play almost literally every puzzle game as it is my favorite genre.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 06, 2020, 11:51 PM
also on my list.   sequel or just another game from the same studio?

i've been waiting for any sort of a sale on these but thus far have not seen them.   eventually i'll break down and buy them at full price because as i've said i play almost literally every puzzle game as it is my favorite genre.
Pneuma is unrelated and isn't as good imo.

Which puzzle games have you played?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 06, 2020, 11:53 PM
also on my list.   sequel or just another game from the same studio?

i've been waiting for any sort of a sale on these but thus far have not seen them.   eventually i'll break down and buy them at full price because as i've said i play almost literally every puzzle game as it is my favorite genre.
May I recommend Twisty Puzzle Simulator.  

Newish game by an indie developer.  Rhymes with Vizio Neck, you know the cheaper TVs.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 07, 2020, 12:04 AM
May I recommend Twisty Puzzle Simulator.  

Newish game by an indie developer.  Rhymes with Vizio Neck, you know the cheaper TVs.
not my kind of puzzle game.  sorry.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 07, 2020, 12:10 AM
not my kind of puzzle game.  sorry.
I'm more of a fan of Sony Neck TVs myself.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 07, 2020, 12:35 AM
Pneuma is unrelated and isn't as good imo.

Which puzzle games have you played?
this gen probably not quite a much.  i feel like last gen more were released.   but with respect to this gen (or at least in my ps4's library):

played:
broken age
escape plan
death squared
fez
four sided fantasy
gorogoa
grim fandango remastered
hob
hohokum
hue
moss
mousecraft
obduction
Q.U.B.E.
Statik
the bridge
the swapper
the talos principle (+ the expansion)
the witness
typoman
unmechanical
unravel



backlog:
gnog
torn

wishlisted:
ghost giant
minifold garden
trover saves the universe
outer wilds
the turing test
pneuma breath of life


puzzle games not on ps4 that i can remember off the top of my head or with light googling:
myst
riven
exile
portal
portal 2
quantum conundrum
braid
echochrome 
echochrome 2
machinarium
dokuro
murisaka's babay
sam and max (everything on ps3.  i think there were around 5 games)
actually i played almost every tall tell game on ps3.  it was a bit much to be honest.  kind of got tired of them by the end of the gen.
professor layton
zack and wiki
boom blox
world of goo



Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 07, 2020, 01:35 AM
this gen probably not quite a much.  i feel like last gen more were released.   but with respect to this gen (or at least in my ps4's library):

played:
broken age
escape plan
death squared
fez
four sided fantasy
gorogoa
grim fandango remastered
hob
hohokum
hue
moss
mousecraft
obduction
Q.U.B.E.
Statik
the bridge
the swapper
the talos principle (+ the expansion)
the witness
typoman
unmechanical
unravel



backlog:
gnog
torn

wishlisted:
ghost giant
minifold garden
trover saves the universe
outer wilds
the turing test
pneuma breath of life


puzzle games not on ps4 that i can remember off the top of my head or with light googling:
myst
riven
exile
portal
portal 2
quantum conundrum
braid
echochrome
echochrome 2
machinarium
dokuro
murisaka's babay
sam and max (everything on ps3.  i think there were around 5 games)
actually i played almost every tall tell game on ps3.  it was a bit much to be honest.  kind of got tired of them by the end of the gen.
professor layton
zack and wiki
boom blox
world of goo




You have to play Stephen's Sausage Roll. I gave up halfway through; do not make the same mistake.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 07, 2020, 02:16 AM
You have to play Stephen's Sausage Roll. I gave up halfway through; do not make the same mistake.
I read a review.  "the dark souls of puzzle games" does sound interesting.  I don't have any pc however. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 07, 2020, 04:08 AM
I read a review.  "the dark souls of puzzle games" does sound interesting.  I don't have any pc however.
Haha that's a good description. Like Dark Souls it does a lot behind the scenes to teach you, but on the surface it's extremely inaccessible. Nobody is going to buy this game without being a hard core puzzle fan.


Go play it at a library if your local ones are open  8)
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 04, 2020, 12:10 AM
I put just a little time into God of War.  


It's so wildly different.

It shares very little with the previous God of War games.  Entirely different game design.

This feels more like Horizon than the previous God of War games.  


Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 04, 2020, 12:15 AM
I put just a little time into God of War.  


It's so wildly different.

It shares very little with the previous God of War games.  Entirely different game design.

This feels more like Horizon than the previous God of War games.  
put more time in.  

yes it is wildly different but once you get out of the early/training parts and the gameplay is fully unlocked you'll see just how much of GoW gameplay influenced its design. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 04, 2020, 12:18 AM
put more time in.  

yes it is wildly different but once you get out of the early/training parts and the gameplay is fully unlocked you'll see just how much of GoW gameplay influenced its design.
I intend to. :P
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 05, 2020, 02:46 AM
I have to say this game is pretty incredible thus far.

Still an interesting change of gameplay. 
But for the better I think. I like this game a lot better than the 1-3.  They are awesome games that definitely deserve 90-93 scores. But right now I'm looking forward to playing more on a level I haven't really in a while.

If this continues, it'll likely be my #2 game this gen.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 05, 2020, 04:03 AM
I have to say this game is pretty incredible thus far.

Still an interesting change of gameplay.  
But for the better I think. I like this game a lot better than the 1-3.  They are awesome games that definitely deserve 90-93 scores. But right now I'm looking forward to playing more on a level I haven't really in a while.

If this continues, it'll likely be my #2 game this gen.
it will be your #1...
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 05, 2020, 02:23 PM
it will be your #1...
I have a hard time believing anything will beat Bloodborne. :P
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 05, 2020, 02:39 PM
I have a hard time believing anything will beat Bloodborne. :P
a good title to put in as your #2 but having played both GoW is miles ahead of bloodborne for me.  you are of course welcome to your own opinion when you finish both but GoW was just soo amazing.

i really don't want to spoil anything for you but you'll know you've hit the mid point of the game when you have a smile that literally extends from ear to ear and you can't stop smiling for hours.  you know what i'm talking about once you get there.  my #1 most joyous moment in gaming all generation.  get to mid game and then tell me bloodborne is still better.   i don't think you'll be able to do it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Oct 05, 2020, 02:46 PM
a good title to put in as your #2 but having played both GoW is miles ahead of bloodborne for me.  you are of course welcome to your own opinion when you finish both but GoW was just soo amazing.

i really don't want to spoil anything for you but you'll know you've hit the mid point of the game when you have a smile that literally extends from ear to ear and you can't stop smiling for hours.  you know what i'm talking about once you get there.  my #1 most joyous moment in gaming all generation.  get to mid game and then tell me bloodborne is still better.   i don't think you'll be able to do it.
Yeah.

For me God of War is like if Bloodborne had a deep, emotional narrative on top of everything else it does amazingly.

The combat in God of War is clearly inspired by Souls but also very different, perhaps not quite as amazing with the fundamentals, but God of War has so much more depth and lots of different skills and things you can use. It adds up to being my favourite third person melee combat system I've ever experienced, Bloodborne is #2. Add God of War's amazing story, graphics, polish and whatnot on top of that and wowee what a fudgy game.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 05, 2020, 03:04 PM
Bloodborne's combat is a good bit faster paced, and feels basically perfect for the way I like playing it.

Which is pretty much the reason why I edge it ahead.

But anyway :P I'm still loving the game.

Easily putting it ahead of TLOU 2, which I didn't quite expect.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Oct 05, 2020, 04:56 PM
Bloodborne's combat is a good bit faster paced, and feels basically perfect for the way I like playing it.

Which is pretty much the reason why I edge it ahead.

But anyway :P I'm still loving the game.

Easily putting it ahead of TLOU 2, which I didn't quite expect.
Well it is a better game than TLOU2 ;)
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 13, 2020, 01:17 AM
PS3:

-Demon's Souls
-God of War 3
-Killzone 2
-Killzone 3


PS4:

-God of War
-Killzone ShadowFall
-Kingdom Hearts 3
-Knack 2
-LittleBigPlanet 3
-Metal Gear Solid V
-Nioh
-Sekiro
-Spider-man
-Uncharted: Lost Legacy
-World of Final Fantasy


PC:

-Bioshock
-Bioshock 2
-Bioshock Infinite
-Binding of Isaac
-Borderlands
-Borderlnads 2
-Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel
-Braid
-Call of Duty: Black Ops 3
-Child of Light
-Cities: Skylines
-Crysis 3
-Dark Souls
-Dark Souls 2
-Dark Souls 3
-DarkSiders
-Dead Rising 2
-Dead Space
-Deus Ex
-Dishonored
-Devil May Cry
-Dragon Age Origins
-Elder Scrolls III
-Elder Scrolls IV
-Fallout 3
-Fallout New Vegas
-Far Cry 3
-Far Cry 4
-Half Life
-Half Life 2
-Half Life 2: Episode 1
-Half Life 2: Episode 2
-L.A. Noire
-The Last Remnant
-Mass Effect
-Mass Effect 2
-Metro 2033
-Metro Last Light
-Mirror's Edge
-Portal 1
-Rage
-Remember Me
-Resident Evil 4
-Resident Evil 5
-Resident Evil Revelations
-Resident Evil Revelations 2
-Rime
-Ryse
-Saints Row IV
-Sleeping Dogs
-Star Dew Valley
-Tomb Raider
-Undertale
-The Walking Dead
-The Walking Dead 2
-Watch Dogs
-The Witcher
-The Witcher 2
-The Witcher 3
-The Witness



Games I want to get:
-Beyond
-Detroit
-Heavy Rain

-InFamous Second Son
-Monster Hunter World
-Red Dead Redemption
-Red Dead Redemption 2
-Resistance
-Resistance 2
-Resistance  3
-Rise of the Tomb Raider

-Death Stranding
-Ghost of Tsushima
-The Last of Us 2

Games I want to replay:
-Bloodborne
-Portal 2
-The Last of Us
-Uncharted 1
-Uncharted 2

-Uncharted 3
I tend to be more likely to play on console, so I'm thinking of moving some games to PS5.  

-Dark Souls, Demon's Souls
-Mass Effect

-Bioshock and Borderlands maybe.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 13, 2020, 05:40 PM
I just bought Dark Souls 2, 3, Final Fantasy XII, and Disgaea 5.

Gamestop has a buy 2, get 2 free deal. (As long as they are under $30 each). 

Was already planning to get DS 2 + 3 for $40, so this way I get 2 extra games.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 15, 2020, 04:08 PM
I just bought Dark Souls 2, 3, Final Fantasy XII, and Disgaea 5.

Gamestop has a buy 2, get 2 free deal. (As long as they are under $30 each).  

Was already planning to get DS 2 + 3 for $40, so this way I get 2 extra games.
They were all used games per the deal.  

FFXII had a lot of stuff on the disc so that was disappointing. Couldn't even take 30 seconds to clean the disc.  

Oh well.  Otherwise everything is in good shape.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 16, 2020, 04:08 AM
a good title to put in as your #2 but having played both GoW is miles ahead of bloodborne for me.  you are of course welcome to your own opinion when you finish both but GoW was just soo amazing.

i really don't want to spoil anything for you but you'll know you've hit the mid point of the game when you have a smile that literally extends from ear to ear and you can't stop smiling for hours.  you know what i'm talking about once you get there.  my #1 most joyous moment in gaming all generation.  get to mid game and then tell me bloodborne is still better.   i don't think you'll be able to do it.
I'm definitely at the point you were talking about.

I feel like SSM out Naughty Dogged Naughty Dog.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 16, 2020, 12:58 PM
I bought Dark Cloud 1 + 2. They were 60% off.  :-[
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 16, 2020, 01:41 PM
I'm definitely at the point you were talking about.

I feel like SSM out Naughty Dogged Naughty Dog.  
Spoiler tags

Which point are you talking about?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 16, 2020, 02:00 PM
Spoiler tags

Which point are you talking about?
Well I was actually talking about two different things that I didn't really separate. So just in case i wasn't clear:
Spoiler for for Kitler's point:
<br>I&#39;m assuming he means when Kratos goes home to get his blades. It&#39;s right around the midpoint. &nbsp;And I can&#39;t imagine another big thing will happen so quickly. &nbsp;<br>


Spoiler for for the latter comment:
<br>I just feel like Santa Monica really got what made The Last of Us awesome, in ways that The Last of Us 2 just didn&#39;t get. <br>
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Oct 16, 2020, 02:05 PM
Finished Kunoichi/Nightshade.  I had to use gameshark for the last 2 levels, but, oh well.  Game was harder than Shinobi, which I managed to get to the last boss. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 16, 2020, 02:16 PM
Finished Kunoichi/Nightshade.  I had to use gameshark for the last 2 levels, but, oh well.  Game was harder than Shinobi, which I managed to get to the last boss.  
I just realized that gameshark is a thing of the past.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Oct 16, 2020, 02:22 PM
Well I was actually talking about two different things that I didn't really separate. So just in case i wasn't clear:
Spoiler for for Kitler's point:
<br>I&#39;m assuming he means when Kratos goes home to get his blades. It&#39;s right around the midpoint. &nbsp;And I can&#39;t imagine another big thing will happen so quickly. &nbsp;<br>


Spoiler for for the latter comment:
<br>I just feel like Santa Monica really got what made The Last of Us awesome, in ways that The Last of Us 2 just didn&#39;t get. <br>

I totally get what you mean by that second point.


Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>TLOU2 excelled in quality of dialogue and the production values related to voice acting, animation and stuff like that, which really made the story compelling. However GOW felt like a more coherent and continuous story like the first TLOU which really got you engaged with the characters and their relationships and helped make the big moments super impactful, but this is the one area where TLOU2 failed.<br>
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 16, 2020, 02:47 PM
Well I was actually talking about two different things that I didn't really separate. So just in case i wasn't clear:
Spoiler for for Kitler's point:
<br>I&#39;m assuming he means when Kratos goes home to get his blades. It&#39;s right around the midpoint. &nbsp;And I can&#39;t imagine another big thing will happen so quickly. &nbsp;<br>


Spoiler for for the latter comment:
<br>I just feel like Santa Monica really got what made The Last of Us awesome, in ways that The Last of Us 2 just didn&#39;t get. <br>

yep. that is the event I was speaking of.  it made me so very, very happy. 

not sure if it changed you mind on bloodborne being number 1 but at least know you can give GoW a reasonable ranking now.  that event is Soo game changing that now you've seen the full experience. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Oct 17, 2020, 02:38 PM
I just realized that gameshark is a thing of the past.
Yeah, I bought it to beat Star Ocean 3, which is the worst game I ever played in my life.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 18, 2020, 10:50 PM
Finished God of War's story.

The story was so much better than the first 1-3 games.
Gameplay was incredible.

It's still crazy how different this game is from it's predecessors.

With this SMS has established themselves as one of my top 3 developers.

What to play next though? 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 18, 2020, 10:54 PM
Finished God of War's story.

The story was so much better than the first 1-3 games.
Gameplay was incredible.

It's still crazy how different this game is from it's predecessors.

With this SMS has established themselves as one of my top 3 developers.

What to play next though?  
MGSV!
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 19, 2020, 01:27 AM
Finished God of War's story.

The story was so much better than the first 1-3 games.
Gameplay was incredible.

It's still crazy how different this game is from it's predecessors.

With this SMS has established themselves as one of my top 3 developers.

What to play next though?  
no matter what you pick it will feel like a let down.  I'd pick something in a completely incomparable genre so no comparisons can be drawn.  platformer. turn based RPG. rythum game. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Oct 29, 2020, 08:39 PM
I'm playing through Doom Eternal and its just... eh. I don't get how people love a game like Doom, for me its just so boring, its incredibly monotonous. The entire game is just the same combat encounter over and over and over, the environments are slightly different but always just the exact same gameplay loop.

The first Doom was the same for the entire second half, I guess the first half was fun because Doom was new to me. Now its not and I'm already bored to death with it after a game and a half.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 29, 2020, 08:47 PM
I'm playing through Doom Eternal and its just... eh. I don't get how people love a game like Doom, for me its just so boring, its incredibly monotonous. The entire game is just the same combat encounter over and over and over, the environments are slightly different but always just the exact same gameplay loop.

The first Doom was the same for the entire second half, I guess the first half was fun because Doom was new to me. Now its not and I'm already bored to death with it after a game and a half.
Doom and those types of games aren't my cup of tea either. I lose interest super fast once a game stops surprising me.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Oct 29, 2020, 11:17 PM
I'm playing through Doom Eternal and its just... eh. I don't get how people love a game like Doom, for me its just so boring, its incredibly monotonous. The entire game is just the same combat encounter over and over and over, the environments are slightly different but always just the exact same gameplay loop.

The first Doom was the same for the entire second half, I guess the first half was fun because Doom was new to me. Now its not and I'm already bored to death with it after a game and a half.
Doom was a bit samey but I feel like it didn't overstay its welcome too much. It's always introducing new stuff like weapons, upgrades, enemies and ramping up the challenge while you're at it. It's fast paced and challenging while being rewarding
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Oct 29, 2020, 11:23 PM
Doom was a bit samey but I feel like it didn't overstay its welcome too much. It's always introducing new stuff like weapons, upgrades, enemies and ramping up the challenge while you're at it. It's fast paced and challenging while being rewarding
Yeah you described the first game there and I agree its a very good game. It starts to go stale in the second half because it stops introducing new weapons and enemies but it doesn't outstay its welcome, like you said, so it finished before I could actually get bored. I just felt let down by the second half of the game getting so repetitive.

The problem with Doom Eternal is that its all the same, the weapons are the same ones you had in the last game, a lot of the enemies are the same, the core systems are the same. So what made Doom interesting, there constantly being something new, is just not present here at all. It just feels like the second half of Doom stretched out over an even longer game, which is why I'm so bored of it.

The challenge doesn't even ramp up in Doom Eternal either, its actually getting easier. The few changes they've made to the game are actually for the worse, which doesn't help, but it made the start of the game where you only have a couple of guns and not all the unlocks like the flame belch just stupidly hard, now the game just gets easier and easier as you unlock more stuff, adding another reason for the disinterest I have.

I'm not sure if I'm even gonna carry on with it, this is another case where I'm baffled by the review score, I don't know what people see in this game. Yes its obviously very competently made overall and is fun if you just really enjoy the Doom core gameplay loop but it doesn't offer anything more.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 29, 2020, 11:56 PM
Yeah you described the first game there and I agree its a very good game. It starts to go stale in the second half because it stops introducing new weapons and enemies but it doesn't outstay its welcome, like you said, so it finished before I could actually get bored. I just felt let down by the second half of the game getting so repetitive.

The problem with Doom Eternal is that its all the same, the weapons are the same ones you had in the last game, a lot of the enemies are the same, the core systems are the same. So what made Doom interesting, there constantly being something new, is just not present here at all. It just feels like the second half of Doom stretched out over an even longer game, which is why I'm so bored of it.

The challenge doesn't even ramp up in Doom Eternal either, its actually getting easier. The few changes they've made to the game are actually for the worse, which doesn't help, but it made the start of the game where you only have a couple of guns and not all the unlocks like the flame belch just stupidly hard, now the game just gets easier and easier as you unlock more stuff, adding another reason for the disinterest I have.

I'm not sure if I'm even gonna carry on with it, this is another case where I'm baffled by the review score, I don't know what people see in this game. Yes its obviously very competently made overall and is fun if you just really enjoy the Doom core gameplay loop but it doesn't offer anything more.
A lot of people were let down by doom eternal. Era has a thread about it every few weeks, or at least it feels like it haha. Most of them loved the first game though.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 30, 2020, 12:57 AM
I honestly thought Doom Eternal was critically panned from what I've seen on Era.  Quite a bit of disappointment with it.  

Was surprised it was ~88.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Oct 30, 2020, 11:15 AM
I honestly thought Doom Eternal was critically panned from what I've seen on Era.  Quite a bit of disappointment with it.  

Was surprised it was ~88.
Yeah I think it's one of those games with a big disconnect between critics and players. There's a lot of people who love it and would say it deserves the 88 but there's also a lot who were disappointed with it.

I'll be interested to see how it does at GOTY awards.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Nov 01, 2020, 12:58 AM
I was watching a playthrough of the 2016 Doom.  I was really impressed with what I saw.  LIke, I don't like first person shooters cause they're all kinda samey and it's hard to differentiate gameplay with them.  Doom just kind of did a good job with that.  It felt fresh, the boss fights looked/played great.  Then they threw Doom Eternal out and I guess went arena shooter hardcore?  I mean, from what I see, it looks like there's no psychology or thought process to the combat.

So with Halloween almost over, I'm going back to the backlog.  Going to get back into Persona and maybe something else from PSX.  Still have Threads of Fate to finish, maybe I'll put some time into that and finish it off (In the last stage I think).
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 09, 2020, 06:28 PM
Been playing Dark Cloud (PS2 on PS4). Been running through it pretty good.

I'm hoping to be done with it by Thursday.  8)

Next game will be Astro's Playroom unless something comes up.  

Will be a little bit before I get Demon's Souls. Planning to play Dark Souls after AP.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 10, 2020, 01:44 PM
I don't think most people here have played Dark Cloud

It's an interesting title.  It centers around going through dungeons and gathering pieces. Using those pieces to rebuild these towns.

There's also a huge and often irritating system for weapons.
Weapons are where most of the leveling in the game is.  Your weapon holds attachments, like higher attack, you kill enough monsters and then you can upgrade it and the weapon absorbs the attachments.

Some irritating bits:
Weapons have like 20 attributes that affect how much damage the sword takes and the enemy takes.  On the bright side, this mechanic can be mostly ignored.

Weapons are gone forever if they break. Weapons are relatively easy to break, and it's totally doable to spend 10 hours leveling up a sword only to have it break. On the bright side, it is easy to repair a weapon at any time.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Nov 10, 2020, 03:23 PM
I have both sitting on my PS4 waiting for me to get to them.  I'm in a PSX mood right now.  So I'm deciding on what I want to play.  I'll probably play through Danger Girl.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Nov 12, 2020, 01:04 PM
I forgot I hadn't finished Astro Bot. Booted it up and had the final world left. Man, it's still mind-blowing how imaginative it is
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Nov 13, 2020, 02:07 PM
I forgot I hadn't finished Astro Bot. Booted it up and had the final world left. Man, it's still mind-blowing how imaginative it is
Final boss is annoying but rewarding. Credit scene is amazing!
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 23, 2020, 04:39 AM
My current backlog plans are:
Dark Souls 1
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3
Sekiro

Is nice to play all of these at 60 fps on PS5. ;;)

I do have to say though, it just feels like there's more lag with Dark Souls than there was with Bloodborne. Maybe it's a TV issue. Maybe I was more used to Bloodborne's input. (I absolutely was, but maybe that is the cause).

With Bloodborne, I felt like the character always moved exactly the way I intended him to.  And it's a big part of why it's one of my favorite games ever.
With Dark Souls, it's slower and it really just feels like I go to dodge and it feels like a full quarter of a second later, before the character finally starts dodging.

Depending on what happens after this...  I'm hoping to get Demon's Souls for Christmas.

Also want to play Spiderman.

But depending on certain factors, my plan is to play Metal Gear Solid V afterwards.

(how much does MGS V depend on previous titles?)
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 25, 2020, 01:09 AM
I've been playing through Dark Souls Remastered. Thought playing through all of the Souls games would be great at 60 fps on PS5.

I've only played and finished Bloodborne before this. Likely my favorite game ever.

Dark Souls is a bit frustrating. Just feels like there is a lot of lag between hitting a button and seeing the action.

Decided to try Bloodborne to see how it felt by comparison as it had been awhile. Honestly it's absurd how good Bloodborne feels.
Like it can't be overstated how good it feels.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 25, 2020, 04:19 AM
My current backlog plans are:
Dark Souls 1
Dark Souls 2
Dark Souls 3
Sekiro

Is nice to play all of these at 60 fps on PS5. ;;)

I do have to say though, it just feels like there's more lag with Dark Souls than there was with Bloodborne. Maybe it's a TV issue. Maybe I was more used to Bloodborne's input. (I absolutely was, but maybe that is the cause).

With Bloodborne, I felt like the character always moved exactly the way I intended him to.  And it's a big part of why it's one of my favorite games ever.
With Dark Souls, it's slower and it really just feels like I go to dodge and it feels like a full quarter of a second later, before the character finally starts dodging.

Depending on what happens after this...  I'm hoping to get Demon's Souls for Christmas.

Also want to play Spiderman.

But depending on certain factors, my plan is to play Metal Gear Solid V afterwards.

(how much does MGS V depend on previous titles?)
MGSV is great on its own. Played a bit of 4 back in the day. Then played ground zeroes and phantom pain almost back to back. Loved both.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 29, 2020, 02:07 AM
Somehow I took a break from Dark Souls and played some Kingdom Hearts 3.

Somehow I'm on my way from not hating the game.   :P
I think it's just largely there are a fair amount of changes with the game. None of the changes were inherently bad, but they weren't inherently good either.  And ultimately I was focusing on the reasons things were worse.

Oh well, the game is decent.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Nov 29, 2020, 09:39 PM
I was going to post this in the Nintendo thread, but I guess here is fine too.

Finished up Xenoblade Chronicles 2: Torna The Golden Country.  I was playing it on again, off again for the past two years.  I bought a bunch of Switch games for Black Friday so I figured I'd clean up my Switch backlog.  It was good.  Combat was engaging enough, if a bit confusing for some of the extra stuff.  Like, one side quest is to get 5 smash combos done, and I have yet to get 1 cause I have no clue how to do it.  Party member attacks are also hard to figure out.  They'll just randomly pop up and you have to press either L2 or R2 depending on which party member attack you want.  But it doesn't work too well since it's, from what I can tell, random.  On top of that, specific combination of these party moves can activate a special finisher.  So there'll be a lot of times where I'd be waiting for a move to show up, it'll show up, but the button confirm for it would never actually pop up.  Then the combo timer thingy (There's no visual for this) will reset and you have to chain moves from scratch again.  It was weird. 

I'm waiting for Xenoblade Chronicles 2 to show up, I had to buy it off of ebay since apparently Nintendo discontinued it (Breath of the Wild too).  So I'm going to head into that once I get it.  I got interested in Torna's story, so I want to see what happens 500 years after.

Apparently Nomura did the character designs for Torna.  Square also did a bunch of other things for the game too.  Which was interesting (Xenogears is a Square Enix game).


Danger Girl and OG Tomb Raider are currently on cue.  I might switch off of the PC version of Tomb Raider and switch to an emulator since I didn't make a jump and died, then I had to start from scratch and I'd rather not.  Danger Girl is on an emulator and thank god for that.  It does the same thing where you have to start from the beginning if you die.  I'm too old to be constantly replaying a stage.  And by beginning, I mean of the level.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 25, 2020, 11:49 PM
Finished Dark Cloud.
First time ever. And I started it on PS2.  


Dark Cloud
Astro's Playroom
Medieval
The Last of Us Part 2
God of War (2018)
God of War 3
Uncharted The Lost Legacy


Finished 7 games this year?  
Kingdom Hearts 3 soon enough too.  

That is not a lot by most standards here. But I think it's the most I've finished in the past 6 years.  Almost total.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Dec 25, 2020, 11:52 PM
Finished Dark Cloud.
First time ever. And I started it on PS2.  


Dark Cloud
Astro's Playroom
Medieval
The Last of Us Part 2
God of War (2018)
God of War 3
Uncharted The Lost Legacy


Finished 7 games this year?  
Kingdom Hearts 3 soon enough too.  

That is not a lot by most standards here. But I think it's the most I've finished in the past 6 years.  Almost total.  
I don't remember if I finished one game this year

Oh yes atleast one, Doom

Oh and spyro 1 of course
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 26, 2020, 08:01 AM
I've played more games in 2020 than any other year in my life, I think.

Finished
TLOU2
The Outer Worlds
Erica
ABZU
Soma
Assassin's Creed Odyssey
What Remains of Edith Finch
Conan Exiles
The Bridge
Control
Astro's Playroom
Outer Wilds
Subnautica
Yes your grace
Riven
Heaven's Vault-will complete in the next day or so
The Turing Test
Crusader Kings 2
Crusader Kings 3
Her Story
Sethian
FTL
Spiderman Miles Morales-will probably complete before the end of the year
Edt: Animal Crossing, forgot this one (thanks xev!)


Played a significant amount
Anthem
Ghost of Tsushima
Forza Horizon 4
A way out
The Warhorn
Outward


What an incredible and amazing year. Soma, What Remains of Edith Finch, AC Odyssey, TLOU2, and Outer Wilds are all goat contenders for me.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Dec 26, 2020, 11:19 AM
I've played more games in 2020 than any other year in my life, I think.

Finished
TLOU2
The Outer Worlds
Erica
ABZU
Soma
Assassin's Creed Odyssey
What Remains of Edith Finch
Conan Exiles
The Bridge
Control
Astro's Playroom
Outer Wilds
Subnautica
Yes your grace
Riven
Heaven's Vault-will complete in the next day or so
The Turing Test
Crusader Kings 2
Crusader Kings 3
Her Story
Sethian
FTL
Spiderman Miles Morales-will probably complete before the end of the year


Played a significant amount
Anthem
Ghost of Tsushima
Forza Horizon 4
A way out
The Warhorn
Outward


What an incredible and amazing year. Soma, What Remains of Edith Finch, AC Odyssey, TLOU2, and Outer Wilds are all goat contenders for me.
dang, someone else does play games on here. That is a great year. AC Odyssey being a goat contender though, baffling ;D

Here's my year (in order of my rating of the games), this is an easy record for me as well, I don't think any other year comes close in terms of games played


Hades
The Last of Us Part II
Hollow Knight
Ghost of Tsushima
Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Demon's Souls Remake
Astro's Playroom
Marvel's Spider-Man Miles Morales
Halo Combat Evolved Anniversary
Animal Crossing New Horizons
Rise of the Tomb Raider
F1 2020
Crosscode
Spiritfarer
Halo 3
Halo 2 Anniversary
Dirt 5
Dreams
Bugsnax
Ori and the Blind Forest
Xenoblade Chronicles Definitive Edition
Dirt Rally 2.0
Doom (2016)
Crash Bandicoot 4 Its About Time
WRC 9
Nex Machina
Abzu
Star Wars Squadrons
Darksiders Genesis
Sea of Thieves
Doom Eternal (not complete)
Fall Guys
Cyberpunk 2077
Human Fall Flat
Golf With Your Friends
Minecraft Dungeons
Need For Speed Heat (not complete)
Control
Farming Simulator 2019


Some of those aren't games you really can complete, you just play until you're done with them. Those kind of games I only include if I played a decent amount to get a measure of the whole game. There's also a few games I returned to this year and played a lot of:

Cities Skylines
Rocket League
Europa Universalis IV
GT Sport

And probably some more that I'm forgetting. Also played a fair bit of Element TD2 but that's early access and releases next year, Colony Survival I played like 11 hours of but not enough yet. I think Cities Skylines is the game I put the most time into this year, about 200 hours.

Aiming to finish Hyrule Warrios AOC before the end of the year, not sure I'll also fit in Sackboy.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Dec 26, 2020, 03:06 PM
I made that "my gen eight in review" thread so I'm a bit too tired of lists to make another one.  but according to that I play ~14 games a year and I'm pretty sure this year brought up my average. 

in a lot of ways it has been a good year but in others not so much.  I didn't play much in the way of truely exceptional games.  only TLoU remastered probably meets that for me.  

nothing will probably beat my 2-3 years ago when I played the witness followed by the talos principle followed by ratchet and clank.  back to back to back exceptional games for me. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Dec 26, 2020, 04:18 PM
nothing will probably beat my 2-3 years ago
Nods along, thinking 2017-2018 was an exceptional time; HZD, BOTW, SMO, GOW, RDR2, Celeste, Hollow Knight, Astro Bot, Spider-Man...

when I played the witness followed by the talos principle followed by ratchet and clank.  back to back to back exceptional games for me.
Oh... um... yeah. Sure, why not.

To be fair, I haven't played the witness or talos principle because puzzle games just aren't a fun time for me, but I know these are well received.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Dec 26, 2020, 08:25 PM
Nods along, thinking 2017-2018 was an exceptional time; HZD, BOTW, SMO, GOW, RDR2, Celeste, Hollow Knight, Astro Bot, Spider-Man...
Oh... um... yeah. Sure, why not.

To be fair, I haven't played the witness or talos principle because puzzle games just aren't a fun time for me, but I know these are well received.
yeah, i think i played GoW that year too.   it was a great year.    puzzle games are my favorite but few release and most are just eh.   i mean, i still enjoy the eh ones but to play 2 exceptioanal ones back to back was a special moment for me.   i anticipated the witness for a long time but talos principle i went in blind so i didn't expect such a great game.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 26, 2020, 10:13 PM
Finished Dark Cloud.
First time ever. And I started it on PS2. 


Dark Cloud
Astro's Playroom
Medieval
The Last of Us Part 2
God of War (2018)
God of War 3
Uncharted The Lost Legacy


Finished 7 games this year? 
Kingdom Hearts 3 soon enough too. 

That is not a lot by most standards here. But I think it's the most I've finished in the past 6 years.  Almost total. 
KH3 I will likely finish tomorrow at this rate.

There might be some other games I forgot, but 8 is pretty good for me.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Dec 27, 2020, 04:17 AM
I picked up Assassn's Creed Odyssey.  I've been enjoying it a lot.  I'm starting to get burned with things though.  The prologue was so well done in terms of exploring and it wasn't too filled with filler open world battleship. It was filled with really nice exploration.  The rest of the game though?  Not so much.  So much cut and paste non-sense.  I think I might just use a trainer to skip the grind and avoid all the bases/bandits.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 27, 2020, 05:09 AM
I picked up Assassn's Creed Odyssey.  I've been enjoying it a lot.  I'm starting to get burned with things though.  The prologue was so well done in terms of exploring and it wasn't too filled with filler open world battleship It was filled with really nice exploration.  The rest of the game though?  Not so much.  So much cut and paste non-sense.  I think I might just use a trainer to skip the grind and avoid all the bases/bandits.
I did almost every side mission so I luckily never had grind problems.

In general I'm a completionist with games. If I'm aware of it and it's not procedural, I do.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Dec 27, 2020, 12:17 PM
I picked up Assassn's Creed Odyssey.  I've been enjoying it a lot.  I'm starting to get burned with things though.  The prologue was so well done in terms of exploring and it wasn't too filled with filler open world battleship It was filled with really nice exploration.  The rest of the game though?  Not so much.  So much cut and paste non-sense.  I think I might just use a trainer to skip the grind and avoid all the bases/bandits.
This was exactly my experience. I pushed on a bit more and it really started to get boring and dragged hard, and I eventually dropped it with a somewhat negative opinion of the game.

AC Odyssey is way too big and copy-pasted for its own good. If you're someone who can get through it all without getting bored then you're crazy ;D

I did almost every side mission so I luckily never had grind problems.

In general I'm a completionist with games. If I'm aware of it and it's not procedural, I do.
Yeah I'm the same, if I come across a quest it really, really irks me if I don't finish it. So when a game like AC Odyssey just litters them everywhere and they're so boring and all very similar yet still fairly long, it really brings down the game for me. Then I can force myself to skip side quests if I'm feeling like this, but it sours me on the whole game and it feels wrong and makes me enjoy it less. I did this for Odyssey, decided to push on, but this combined with the main story quests being pretty boring and drawn out as well just made me drop it.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 31, 2020, 04:46 PM
Bought Nier Automata and Skyrim on PS4.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 31, 2020, 04:54 PM
PS3:
-God of War 3
-Killzone 2
-Killzone 3


PS4/PS5:
-Dark Cloud
- Dark Souls
- Dark Souls 2
- Dark Souls 3
-God of War
-Killzone ShadowFall
-Kingdom Hearts 3
- Knack 2
- LittleBigPlanet 3
- Metal Gear Solid V
- Nioh
- Sekiro
- Skyrim
- Spider-man
-The Last of Us 2
-Uncharted: Lost Legacy

-World of Final Fantasy

PC:

-Binding of Isaac
-Borderlands
-Borderlands 2
-Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel
-Braid
-Call of Duty: Black Ops 3
-Child of Light
-Cities: Skylines
-DarkSiders
-Dead Rising 2
-Dead Space
-Deus Ex
-Dishonored
-Dragon Age Origins
-Elder Scrolls III
-Elder Scrolls IV
-Fallout 3
-Fallout New Vegas
-Far Cry 3
-Far Cry 4
-Half Life
-Half Life 2
-Half Life 2: Episode 1
-Half Life 2: Episode 2
-L.A. Noire
-The Last Remnant
-Mass Effect
-Mass Effect 2
-Metro 2033
-Metro Last Light
-Mirror's Edge
-Portal 1
-Rage
-Remember Me
-Resident Evil 4
-Resident Evil 5
-Resident Evil Revelations
-Resident Evil Revelations 2
-Rime
-Ryse
-Saints Row IV
-Sleeping Dogs
-Star Dew Valley
-Tomb Raider
-Undertale
-The Walking Dead
-The Walking Dead 2
-Watch Dogs
-The Witcher
-The Witcher 2
-The Witcher 3
-The Witness



Games I want to get:
-Beyond
-Detroit
-Ghost of Tsushima
-Heavy Rain
-InFamous Second Son
-Monster Hunter World
-Red Dead Redemption
-Red Dead Redemption 2
-Resistance
-Resistance 2
-Resistance  3
-Rise of the Tomb Raider
Updates!  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Dec 31, 2020, 08:30 PM
Your backlog is just ridiculous Pi, you're never getting through all that when you only play 8 games a year ;D
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 31, 2020, 08:53 PM
Your backlog is just ridiculous Pi, you're never getting through all that when you only play 8 games a year ;D
It's true.  

Although some of those games I'm not even really sure I want to play.  Like Deus Ex, I often hear good things.

We shall see how it goes.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Jun 05, 2021, 05:39 AM
Finished Observation.

Fun game despite the slow gameplay. I'd almost recommend a lets play of it over playing yourself. One major incredibly good element is lost if you watch a video, but otherwise it plays like a video.

Lots of fun similarities to Hapax and of course lots of major differences too.


Super minor spoiler:
What is up with games and bad dates lol? Unless I missed it being an alt history game, why did they set it in 2026? Nothing in the game makes sense if that's the case, outside of the aesthetic. If the year was just never mentioned it would have been really good sci fi.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jun 05, 2021, 01:38 PM
Finished Observation.

Fun game despite the slow gameplay. I'd almost recommend a lets play of it over playing yourself. One major incredibly good element is lost if you watch a video, but otherwise it plays like a video.

Lots of fun similarities to Hapax and of course lots of major differences too.


Super minor spoiler:
What is up with games and bad dates lol? Unless I missed it being an alt history game, why did they set it in 2026? Nothing in the game makes sense if that's the case, outside of the aesthetic. If the year was just never mentioned it would have been really good sci fi.

my opinion is unless you are doing a historical period piece or a thing about "true events" you just shouldn't ever put a date on it. 

I mean that for all media btw, games, movies, shows, songs.  adding a date does not enhance an experience when consumed at launch but sure as hell makes it age badly when consumed late. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Jun 05, 2021, 06:23 PM
my opinion is unless you are doing a historical period piece or a thing about "true events" you just shouldn't ever put a date on it.

I mean that for all media btw, games, movies, shows, songs.  adding a date does not enhance an experience when consumed at launch but sure as hell makes it age badly when consumed late.
One of my favorite things was the final season of parks and rec. They specifically dated it as 2017 with a 2 year time jump into the future. Had more drones and random future things that were played off as jokes.

Outside of that, yeah don't put a date unless you have a specific need for it. In Hapax I have a specific date because props need a date but it just causes issues. Either the date is too soon and people think it's unrealistic or the date is too far and people expect Star Trek.


Watching reviews for Observation though it's funny how few mention the slow gameplay. This is the only video I've found that dissects it in any way.

Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 23, 2021, 04:24 AM
Playing Demons Souls, and it just makes me dislike Dark souls even more.  

There's something about the movement in Dark Souls that feels laggy.  Demons Souls feels better remotely than playing Dark Souls locally.  It's weird because I don't see people talking about the lagging feeling.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 28, 2021, 02:04 AM
After playing:

Something like 400 hours of Bloodborne.
Several hours of Dark Souls

A few hours of Demons Souls on PS3

Several hours of Demons Souls on PS5.





I don't know how different it is from the PS3 version, don't really want to pull it back out for back to back comparisons. But I know I'm having a lot more fun with it.  


I'm also liking it so, so much more than Dark Souls.


It's a bit worse than Bloodborne though. But it's the first time I've felt a Souls game click since then.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jun 28, 2021, 02:20 AM
I've played: demon's souls, dark souls, dark souls 3, and Bloodborne each for dozens to hundreds of hours. 

demon's souls is still my favorite. it is probably a lot about "first love" but I mostly feel the bosses were so we'll crafted and despite everyone else's opinion I liked tendencies. 

all were great.  demon's was special. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Jun 28, 2021, 11:30 AM
Demon's is a very different game I found, because you can do a lot of the game first try it feels a lot more like a "normal" game where you have steady progression through it,
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jun 28, 2021, 07:59 PM
Demon's is a very different game I found, because you can do a lot of the game first try it feels a lot more like a "normal" game where you have steady progression through it,
really?!?

that was my main complaint about bloodborne and in the ps3 days that was not a thing anyone would say of demon's souls.   many were saying is was too difficult, cheap, and rage quitting.    i always qualified it as a "puzzle" game.   yes, the game is easy once you know the attack patterns and exploits but god dang could learning the exploits be difficult.   that's been true of all the games though and i really think once you master 1 game you can manage the rest a lot better.   i was "disappointed" by how easy dark souls 1 was when i picked it up.   i cap my level at 19 for no reason other than to increase the difficultly for myself when i played though it.  got all the way to the four knights on new game plus before i couldn't manage.

although to be honest i watched videos to both the armor spider and the flamelurker bosses.   both were clearly nerfed in their attack patterns and both had their environmental exploits removed.    maybe DS on ps4 is just easier.


Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Xevross on Jun 28, 2021, 11:08 PM
really?!?

that was my main complaint about bloodborne and in the ps3 days that was not a thing anyone would say of demon's souls.   many were saying is was too difficult, cheap, and rage quitting.    i always qualified it as a "puzzle" game.   yes, the game is easy once you know the attack patterns and exploits but god dang could learning the exploits be difficult.   that's been true of all the games though and i really think once you master 1 game you can manage the rest a lot better.   i was "disappointed" by how easy dark souls 1 was when i picked it up.   i cap my level at 19 for no reason other than to increase the difficultly for myself when i played though it.  got all the way to the four knights on new game plus before i couldn't manage.

although to be honest i watched videos to both the armor spider and the flamelurker bosses.   both were clearly nerfed in their attack patterns and both had their environmental exploits removed.    maybe DS on ps4 is just easier.
Outside of the dragon god fight which was just super dumb I think I died like 10 times playing through Demon's Souls, only twice against bosses. Bloodborne was in the hundreds for sure, I'd guess like 300+ deaths I had in Bloodborne.

Demon's Souls felt like a Souls game with its mechanics but in terms of its gameplay loop and general progression it was just like playing R&C or Uncharted, an adventure you keep moving through, a few difficult moments but nothing big, and maybe one spot which was just dumb and ridiculous (looking at you U2 final boss).
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jun 29, 2021, 01:21 AM
Outside of the dragon god fight which was just super dumb I think I died like 10 times playing through Demon's Souls, only twice against bosses. Bloodborne was in the hundreds for sure, I'd guess like 300+ deaths I had in Bloodborne.

Demon's Souls felt like a Souls game with its mechanics but in terms of its gameplay loop and general progression it was just like playing R&C or Uncharted, an adventure you keep moving through, a few difficult moments but nothing big, and maybe one spot which was just dumb and ridiculous (looking at you U2 final boss).
i think i died about a dozen times getting to the first boss (the cleric beast) but i downed him on my second try.   after that i got to the mid point of the game with just a handful of deaths.  i died a bit more often on the back half of the game,.. i think i wasn't leveling fast enough because i was progressing too quickly.   ...but more to the point i killed like half the bosses in the game on my first attempt which really made the game feel too easy.

combat was fluid and fun but the lack of "clunk" meant it was actually pretty easy to recover from a mis-step.   demon's/dark souls was much more unforgiving of a mistake.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jun 29, 2021, 01:22 AM
oh, and by the way,.. can we get the thread title changed to soulsborne discussion?  okay thanks.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jun 29, 2021, 03:21 AM
I've played: demon's souls, dark souls, dark souls 3, and Bloodborne each for dozens to hundreds of hours.

demon's souls is still my favorite. it is probably a lot about "first love" but I mostly feel the bosses were so we'll crafted and despite everyone else's opinion I liked tendencies.

all were great.  demon's was special.
Demons Souls seems more puzzley than Bloodborne, so I'm not surprised.  

Bloodborne is more like a twitch action RPG, and I love it.  

really?!?
I do think it's a good bit easier. I'm not completely sure why though. They said they kept the old code for the AI, and a lot of other stuff. And people say it's a very reliable remake.  

I'm not sure if they did something with the move to 60fps, the game feels more responsive than the PS3 version and it feels easier because of that. It feels less clunky than the PS3 version to me, which felt less clunky than Dark Souls does to me.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 07, 2021, 04:19 AM
Beat Demons Souls.  

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br><ul class="bbc_list" style="list-style-type: decimal;"><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Bloodborne</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Uncharted 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">The Last of Us</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Final Fantasy X </span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Super Mario RPG</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">God of War PS4</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Astrobot</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">The Last of Us 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Demons Souls</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">LittlebigPlanet</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Skyrim</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Jak and Daxter</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Jak 3</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Jak 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Kingdom Hearts 1</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Kingdom Hearts 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Portal 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Super Mario Bros 3</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Super Mario bros 1</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Uncharted TLL</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Uncharted 4</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Bioshock Infinite</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Bioshock</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Bioshock 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Horizon</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Mario Kart Wii</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Super Smash Bros Brawl</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Age of Empires 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Age of Empires</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Pokemon Sapphire</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Pokemon Leaf green</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Pokemon Yellow</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">LittleBigPlanet 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">God of War 3</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">God of War 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">God of War</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Uncharted 1</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Dark Cloud</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">New Super Mario Bros Wii</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Super Mario Galaxy</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Radiata Stories</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Batman Arkham Asylum </span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Batman Arkham City</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Batman Arkham Knight</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Dark Souls 3</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Dark Souls </span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Dark Souls 2</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Sekiro</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Oblivion</span></li><li><span style="font-size: 1em;" class="bbc_size">Uncharted 3</span></li></ul><br>


Honestly I feel like I should redo this post, not sure if I agree with a few of the places.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Aug 07, 2021, 01:29 PM
Beat Demons Souls.  

Spoiler for Hidden:

  • Bloodborne
  • Uncharted 2
  • The Last of Us
  • Final Fantasy X
  • Super Mario RPG
  • God of War PS4
  • Astrobot
  • The Last of Us 2
  • Demons Souls
  • LittlebigPlanet
  • Skyrim
  • Jak and Daxter
  • Jak 3
  • Jak 2
  • Kingdom Hearts 1
  • Kingdom Hearts 2
  • Portal 2
  • Super Mario Bros 3
  • Super Mario bros 1
  • Uncharted TLL
  • Uncharted 4
  • Bioshock Infinite
  • Bioshock
  • Bioshock 2
  • Horizon
  • Mario Kart Wii
  • Super Smash Bros Brawl
  • Age of Empires 2
  • Age of Empires
  • Pokemon Sapphire
  • Pokemon Leaf green
  • Pokemon Yellow
  • LittleBigPlanet 2
  • God of War 3
  • God of War 2
  • God of War
  • Uncharted 1
  • Dark Cloud
  • New Super Mario Bros Wii
  • Super Mario Galaxy
  • Radiata Stories
  • Batman Arkham Asylum
  • Batman Arkham City
  • Batman Arkham Knight
  • Dark Souls 3
  • Dark Souls
  • Dark Souls 2
  • Sekiro
  • Oblivion
  • Uncharted 3



Honestly I feel like I should redo this post, not sure if I agree with a few of the places.
gratz.   my co-op friend and i are almost done with darksouls 3.  we're probably just about half way through the ringed city dlc and then back to beat the final boss of the main game.   

i skipped DS2 because of all the crud it got about not being as good as DS.   ...but DS3 has been great.   kind of disappointed in myself for not getting to it earlier.


i think after DS we'll move onto it takes two.  i'm really looking forward to that one.  looks soo amazingly exactly the kind of game i'll love.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 01, 2021, 11:30 PM
I finally played event[0].

Was short but good.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 21, 2021, 04:22 AM
Decided on taking a break from Souls like games.

Been playing Horizon from the start again. And playing Spiderman.

Spiderman has some strong qualities. Web swinging feels really good most of the time. I feel like everything works like 95% of the time. I have some often frustrations. Like swinging will feel great and then I will try stopping somewhere and he will decide to keep swinging somewhere.  

In a lot of ways, it reminds me of Batman and inFamous. Except that I feel like the dynamic of being able to "fly" brings a lot of issues into the game. Spidey is able to swing from basically where ever and he's able to run up buildings and go any which way he pleases.  Like I said most of the time, it feels great and it's really impressive how good it feels. But then it stops feeling so good.  

Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 21, 2021, 02:04 PM
Decided on taking a break from Souls like games.

Been playing Horizon from the start again. And playing Spiderman.

Spiderman has some strong qualities. Web swinging feels really good most of the time. I feel like everything works like 95% of the time. I have some often frustrations. Like swinging will feel great and then I will try stopping somewhere and he will decide to keep swinging somewhere.  

In a lot of ways, it reminds me of Batman and inFamous. Except that I feel like the dynamic of being able to "fly" brings a lot of issues into the game. Spidey is able to swing from basically where ever and he's able to run up buildings and go any which way he pleases.  Like I said most of the time, it feels great and it's really impressive how good it feels. But then it stops feeling so good.  
my coop buddy and me were playing DS3 and i burnt out right before the last boss.

we've been playing it takes two instead and it is amazing.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 27, 2021, 02:28 AM
Playing through Spiderman and it really makes it clear why Insomniac is able to pump out games like they do.  

Like the whole door post by Naughty Dog, about how doors took the longest to get right.  
In Spiderman there aren't really any doors that are interact able by NPCs. Robberies take place in stores with an open front, most of the doors you interact with just start cutscenes or loading screens.

It's like their philosophy is make something good in a year, whereas ND is like we have to make it near perfect, even if it takes 3 years.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 01, 2021, 03:20 AM
Played about an hour of MGS V, my first MGS game.  

This was mostly not what I expected.

I kind of expected realistic stealth game.

Instead it's way more X-Men or something than I expected.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 01, 2021, 04:38 AM
Playing through Spiderman and it really makes it clear why Insomniac is able to pump out games like they do.  

Like the whole door post by Naughty Dog, about how doors took the longest to get right.  
In Spiderman there aren't really any doors that are interact able by NPCs. Robberies take place in stores with an open front, most of the doors you interact with just start cutscenes or loading screens.

It's like their philosophy is make something good in a year, whereas ND is like we have to make it near perfect, even if it takes 3 years.
I didn't realize the door post originated from ND.

Certain games like Spiderman and Nier Automata are incredibly good at punching above their weight. Then there are things like Assassin's Creed, RDR2, and TLOU2 that really do take an army.

I think of this all the time with my games lol. Hapax will release and the casual player will be horrified that it took this long to make since so much attention is put into every little detail. Meanwhile Forged Odyssey uses almost every trick imaginable to get more bang for my buck.

Played about an hour of MGS V, my first MGS game.  

This was mostly not what I expected.

I kind of expected realistic stealth game.

Instead it's way more X-Men or something than I expected.
It is very much not realistic hahaha. Rocket fists and cardboard boxes galore.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 01, 2021, 10:54 AM
It was a response to another post.

Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: nnodley on Oct 01, 2021, 01:38 PM
Building a studio that focuses on games like insomniac does is like my dream.  They don't have to be these perfect masterpieces, but are solid, fun, and intriquing enough to keep pulling people back.  And not even be as big as insomniac, just a good group of talented artists and people to make games we and players love.

Also my backlog is getting out of hand now.  I can't catch up. lol
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 01, 2021, 02:05 PM
It is very much not realistic hahaha. Rocket fists and cardboard boxes galore.
Generally if I know I'm interested in a game, then I avoid as much media to be surprised.  
And if I don't think I'm interested, then I avoid it to not waste time.  

On the one hand, I'm wondering if there are any good games I miss due to not really realizing what they are.  

On the other hand, I really like the surprise that this is so wildly different from what I expected.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 01, 2021, 02:31 PM
Generally if I know I'm interested in a game, then I avoid as much media to be surprised.  
And if I don't think I'm interested, then I avoid it to not waste time.  

On the one hand, I'm wondering if there are any good games I miss due to not really realizing what they are.  

On the other hand, I really like the surprise that this is so wildly different from what I expected.  
going in blind to a game can be much more satisfying then consuming all the pre-release marketing.  i do it for all my favorite frachises and developers.   

i mostly watch media for games i'm not certain about.  i like to watch a few random minutes of a "let's play" to get a real feel for a game without all the marketing hype.   
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 01, 2021, 04:37 PM
going in blind to a game can be much more satisfying then consuming all the pre-release marketing.  i do it for all my favorite frachises and developers.  

i mostly watch media for games i'm not certain about.  i like to watch a few random minutes of a "let's play" to get a real feel for a game without all the marketing hype.  
I love going in blind on highly rated games that I've never seen. What Remains of Edith Finch, Soma, Outer Wilds, Firewatch, and Subnautica were all so fresh as I spent the first few minutes/hours going "oh, so this what I'm playing."

Generally if I know I'm interested in a game, then I avoid as much media to be surprised.  
And if I don't think I'm interested, then I avoid it to not waste time.  

On the one hand, I'm wondering if there are any good games I miss due to not really realizing what they are.  

On the other hand, I really like the surprise that this is so wildly different from what I expected.  
I'm mostly just surprised/impressed that you were able to avoid hearing anything about it. I felt like Kojima's reputation for being a bit out there was universally known.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 01, 2021, 04:44 PM
I'm mostly just surprised/impressed that you were able to avoid hearing anything about it. I felt like Kojima's reputation for being a bit out there was universally known.
I've heard he was out there.  

But I had no frame of reference on the what or how.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 01, 2021, 11:24 PM
It was a response to another post.


It'd be amazing if players understood this much work went into almost every element of a game.

Also here's a fun one I didn't see that dev mention.

Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 28, 2021, 04:47 AM
I finished the Spiderman story mode.  Still have some side missions to finish.

On the whole the game is pretty good, but I have had a lot of issues.  

The story is way better than I expected, but I've had a lot of trouble with the gameplay.  

When it works, it's great.  
But other times I'm worrying my controller is dying. There's some instances where it's clearly the games fault. If a building has a piece that juts out and Spiderman goes underneath that, he will get stuck and it's awkward. The game is generally fluid, and that really hurts the fluidity.  Albeit on a rare basis.  

I've had more frustrations with Spiderman not quite doing what I want.

There's a trophy for doing tricks off a building and while trying to do that trophy, Spiderman would often start diving and I'd have to fight him to get him to stop.

I have had a lot of little irritations like this.  He will randomly stop swinging. Or he will jump to the wrong spot.  

Some of these could be my fault or the controller's fault, but i haven't played many games with this many incidences like that.  

I've had some minor bugs. A bad guy was able to see me through 2 walls, so that was delightful.  

Despite my frustrations, I think it's an 85/100.  A great game, I think I will finish the side missions, but I don't think it will be a game that I return to any time soon.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 28, 2021, 05:35 AM
I only played Miles which seems to have been cleaned up, but I get that. I had a few moments where the game thought I wanted to do something else.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 03, 2021, 02:01 PM
PC:

Spoiler for Hidden:
-Binding of Isaac
-Borderlands
-Borderlands 2
-Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel
-Braid
-Call of Duty: Black Ops 3
-Child of Light
-Cities: Skylines
-DarkSiders
-Dead Rising 2
-Dead Space
-Deus Ex
-Dishonored
-Dragon Age Origins
-Elder Scrolls III
-Elder Scrolls IV
-Fallout 3
-Fallout New Vegas
-Far Cry 3
-Far Cry 4
-Half Life
-Half Life 2
-Half Life 2: Episode 1
-Half Life 2: Episode 2
-L.A. Noire
-The Last Remnant
-Mass Effect
-Mass Effect 2
-Metro 2033
-Metro Last Light
-Mirror's Edge
-Portal 1
-Rage
-Remember Me
-Resident Evil 4
-Resident Evil 5
-Resident Evil Revelations
-Resident Evil Revelations 2
-Rime
-Ryse
-Saints Row IV
-Sleeping Dogs
-Star Dew Valley
-Tomb Raider
-Undertale
-The Walking Dead
-The Walking Dead 2
-Watch Dogs
-The Witcher
-The Witcher 2
-The Witcher 3
-The Witness



Games I want to get:
-Beyond
-Detroit
-Ghost of Tsushima
-Heavy Rain
-Monster Hunter World
-Red Dead Redemption
-Red Dead Redemption 2
-Rise of the Tomb Raider
Sadly dropping the PS3 games.
Holding off on the PC games. 

PS4/PS5:
- Batman collection
- Bioshock collection
- Celeste
- Cuphead
- Dark Souls
- Dark Souls 2
- Dark Souls 3
- Final Fantasy VII
- Final Fantasy VII Remake
- Final Fantasy VIII
- Hollow Knight
- InFamous Second Son
- Killzone ShadowFall
- Knack 2
- LittleBigPlanet 3
- Metal Gear Solid V
- Nier Automata
- Nioh
- Persona 5
- Ratchet and Clank Remake
- Sekiro
- Skyrim
- Spider-man
- The Witness
- Uncharted Series
- World of Final Fantasy

Some of these are lower priority because I have finished them in the past. 



I officially got the platinum for Spider-Man. Was pretty easy. 

I'm not exactly sure what to play next. A lot of games are pretty big investments.
I put some 40 hours into Spiderman, which was more than I wanted to, I think. 

I tried putting a little bit of time into Batman AA, just because Spiderman reminded me of it. Some parts of the controls don't feel as good as Spider-Man and some feel better. 

Like Batman makes it easier to fight 3 villains.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 03, 2021, 03:33 PM
Finally after years and years, I'm tackling Other M. I picked it up in a target discount bin around 2014 I think.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Nov 03, 2021, 04:41 PM
Sadly dropping the PS3 games.
Holding off on the PC games.  

PS4/PS5:
- Batman collection
- Bioshock collection
- Celeste
- Cuphead
- Dark Souls
- Dark Souls 2
- Dark Souls 3
- Final Fantasy VII
- Final Fantasy VII Remake
- Final Fantasy VIII
- Hollow Knight
- InFamous Second Son
- Killzone ShadowFall
- Knack 2
- LittleBigPlanet 3
- Metal Gear Solid V
- Nier Automata
- Nioh
- Persona 5
- Ratchet and Clank Remake
- Sekiro
- Skyrim
- Spider-man
- Uncharted Series
- World of Final Fantasy

Some of these are lower priority because I have finished them in the past.  



I officially got the platinum for Spider-Man. Was pretty easy.  

I'm not exactly sure what to play next. A lot of games are pretty big investments.
I put some 40 hours into Spiderman, which was more than I wanted to, I think.  

I tried putting a little bit of time into Batman AA, just because Spiderman reminded me of it. Some parts of the controls don't feel as good as Spider-Man and some feel better.  

Like Batman makes it easier to fight 3 villains.

dropping or pausing the witness and braid from you list is the wrong move.  realistically you should be playing them next because they better games than anything else on your list.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 03, 2021, 04:52 PM
dropping or pausing the witness and braid from you list is the wrong move.  realistically you should be playing them next because they better games than anything else on your list.
I dropped PC because I don't really have a GPU capable of playing much. :P
(And to be honest, playing games on PC isn't my favorite)

I have The Witness on PS4 though, forgot to add it to the list. 

What is going on with Braid on PS4/PS5?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 03, 2021, 05:18 PM
I dropped PC because I don't really have a GPU capable of playing much. :P
(And to be honest, playing games on PC isn't my favorite)

I have The Witness on PS4 though, forgot to add it to the list.  

What is going on with Braid on PS4/PS5?


Just gotta wait till early 2021.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Nov 03, 2021, 06:36 PM
I dropped PC because I don't really have a GPU capable of playing much. :P
(And to be honest, playing games on PC isn't my favorite)

I have The Witness on PS4 though, forgot to add it to the list.  

What is going on with Braid on PS4/PS5?
ah, gotcha.  i saw your statement on the PC backlog but i didn't get that your PC wasn't capable.   

i highly recommend the witness.  it's fantastic.  i think braid was probably better overall with a surprisingly awesome "story".  i mean, the story suck all the way until it doesn't but it was one of my top gaming moments when it happened.   hopefully that was cryptic enough to not count as a spoiler.  i'm going to double dip on that when it re-releases.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 03, 2021, 09:35 PM
ah, gotcha.  i saw your statement on the PC backlog but i didn't get that your PC wasn't capable.  

i highly recommend the witness.  it's fantastic.  i think braid was probably better overall with a surprisingly awesome "story".  i mean, the story suck all the way until it doesn't but it was one of my top gaming moments when it happened.   hopefully that was cryptic enough to not count as a spoiler.  i'm going to double dip on that when it re-releases.
I played The Witness before playing braid.

Braid wasn't as good imo. I think knowing that its highly rated almost makes it feel more dated. Still a great game that Pi should play, but good to keep in mind that it influenced so much and from a modern perspective is less unique.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 03, 2021, 10:00 PM
I'm going to play infamous -> The Witness

I'll wait for a PS4 version for Braid.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 03, 2021, 10:14 PM
I'm going to play infamous -> The Witness

I'll wait for a PS4 version for Braid.
First time playing infamous?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 03, 2021, 10:33 PM
First time playing infamous?
I played infamous 1 and 2 on PS3. Underrated good games.  

I have only played an hour or so of SS.

Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Nov 03, 2021, 11:42 PM
I'm going to play infamous -> The Witness

I'll wait for a PS4 version for Braid.
infamous second son was pretty good so that's not a bad choice.  

I didn't love it as much as I loved the original.  mostly it just didn't "grow" from the PS3 version other than being pretty.  

second light was really good and well worth the play. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 04, 2021, 08:43 PM
Other M is pretty good so far. I understand people having issues going from stoic Samus to this weirdly edgy teenager with bad writing but it's ok. The world itself is a pretty good metroidvania.

Having some slight control issues that make fights a lot harder than they need to be lol.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 05, 2021, 01:42 AM
I put about an hour, maybe a bit less into the Witness just to see what it's like.  


I dunno.  Never played a game like this.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 05, 2021, 03:04 AM
I put about an hour, maybe a bit less into the Witness just to see what it's like.  


I dunno.  Never played a game like this.  
It's really unique. One of the best games I've ever played, but not for everyone.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 05, 2021, 03:40 AM
I'm not even sure how I feel about this.  

Puzzle games aren't really my thing, so uh keep that in mind before hating me. :P

I am in a state of boredfun. I somehow just blew another hour. Which is pretty indicative of being immersed, but I don't really feel like I'm having fun?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 05, 2021, 05:19 PM
Now that I have had time to think about it.  

The game is definitely fun, but it's not really the kind of fun that I generally play video games to have.  

The game is very pretty.

There are some things that are really interesting about the game. (And I know I am preaching to the choir here....)

The game doesn't teach you the rules. A lot of the panels are silly easy.  But for a lot of the panels, a bigger part of the challenge isn't so much finding the solution, but figuring out what the rules are.  

The other bit I find interesting is that many of the puzzles interact with the world somehow. Sometimes even how you solve the puzzles matters beyond simply solving the puzzle.  

I don't know how much time I will invest in it. But it's very different from pretty much anything I've played. And that might be a good or a bad thing for me.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Nov 05, 2021, 08:56 PM
preach on!!

it doesn't have to be "your bag",.. the simple fact you can appreciate the game is good enough for me.  i LOVE these kinds of games and the witness is one of the best.  i forget exactly how jonathan stated it but he made some statement about how different a beast it is "developing a game where the fun isn't what's going on in the game but rather what's going on in your head."   reasoning out the rules is soo much fun to me.

i'm glad you at least gave it a try.

some of the later puzzles are pretty difficult.  i tried for a few days to best the "impossible challenge".   i got so very close a few times but in the end i gave up. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 06, 2021, 03:08 AM
~4 hours in.

Solved over 90 puzzles thus far.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 06, 2021, 04:18 PM
Other M isn't really a metroidvania. All the doors randomly lock and unlock so that you can only go down the path they intended. I've been very very limited in being able to revisit areas.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Nov 06, 2021, 08:22 PM
Other M isn't really a metroidvania. All the doors randomly lock and unlock so that you can only go down the path they intended. I've been very very limited in being able to revisit areas.
even the biggest Nintendo fans I know all acknowledge that other M is a terrible game.  just give up already. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 06, 2021, 08:43 PM
even the biggest Nintendo fans I know all acknowledge that other M is a terrible game.  just give up already.
It's not at all as bad as I expected. It's not great either, but coming from a 2D metroid perspective it's fine.

edt: it stopped locking all the doors finally, but all I can do is collect things I previously couldn't.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 07, 2021, 09:33 PM
Finished Other M.

Pretty ok. Had plenty of baffling elements but also plenty of good elements. Ignoring the story I think it's not as good as Super Metroid but not bad either. The biggest gameplay issues were how much it held your hand, the in game justifications for why you couldn't do things, and the random moments that'd be near impossible without a guide.

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>Samus does not have permission to use power bombs. Whole game you keep seeing things that&#39;d be nice to use power bombs on. Finally at one point she says screw permission and activates all of her suit&#39;s features. For some reason power bombs are still not allowed however. Then in within a matter of minutes you&#39;re fighting a boss and at one specific point the game requires you to use a power bomb, but it never indicates this feature has been unlocked. No cutscene, no voice line, etc., even though literally every other time Samus enabled a new power it had a mini cutscene and opened the menu to show you.<br><br><br>Locking doors was also really frustrating. The game has only a hint of metroidvania. Primarily it is just a linear game that weaves around like a web. If this was hidden with in game reasons like explosions changing the ship it could be pretty acceptable like a soulsborne. Instead it&#39;s purely just doors turning red when the game wants you to take a different path. Even post credits this is continuing.<br>


I could understand hating the story from the perspective of "not my metroid" since it presents Samus in a pretty poor/stupid fashion a lot of times. Her primary characterization is that she gives her commanding officer a thumbs down lol. It was stupid the first time yet the whole plot revolves around it!

Ignoring the downgrade in characterization however, it's fine. It has a few good story beats and reminded me of Knack.


7/10
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 07, 2021, 09:41 PM
I've been jumping between different games, which is weird. Ive been feeling indecisive lately.

I have played a bit more the Witness. I don't think I will finish it, but I plan to keep playing until I get burned out.  

Was wanting to play Dark Souls.  So I tried some more.  For some reason, I can't get into it.

The game just feels so unresponsive. Running feels super slow. If you heal, all other input stops while you're doing that, for what feels like a solid 2 seconds. Which feels like a lot for an action RPG.  

It feels much less responsive than Demons Souls (PS3 or PS5)

I decided to try Dark Souls 2, just to see how it feels. And it feels so much better. Running actually feels running. You can apparently still move while you're healing. I've only played for like 30 minutes, but I'm already more interested than I was in 9 hours of Dark Souls.

It doesn't make any sense to me. I haven't heard any major complaints. And most people tend to say that Dark Souls 2 is by far the worst.  

Is this an issue from the Remastered version, or is there a weird bug playing on PS5?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 11, 2021, 04:49 AM
I'm having such a hard time getting into Dark Souls.

Bloodborne felt enjoyable from the first moment. Demon's Souls took a few hours to really get into.
But I've put 15 hours into Dark Souls so far, and I feel like I'm only now starting to get into it.  Starting to. It still feels like a big step down from the other two games.

I kind of feel like Dark Souls is a bit more unfair compared to the others. Enemies will occasionally make these impossible kind of glitchy jumps that are often unavoidable.

Level design is pretty cool. Kind of neat how easy it is to get between like 5 different areas.
The ragdoll physics seem really over the top though. They'll occasionally jump up if you bump into them.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Nov 13, 2021, 05:12 AM
At this point, I am very much getting into Dark Souls. My feelings have been rising pretty consistently today. It's not going to beat Demon's Souls or Bloodborne for me, but it's definitely a great game. Just today I have beaten 4 bosses, which was more than I had total prior.

What I will say though is that while the mechanics are nearly identical to Demon's Souls, there are some "emergent" differences. All the buttons basically do the same thing, there are some slight differences. Dodging feels slower, movement in general is a good bit slower in Dark Souls.  

I don't know the exact way to say it. But while the controller mapping is the same, there are some subtle differences and the game to me feels more geared towards defensive strategies. In large part using the shield.  It feels like they went from Demon's Souls and tried to make the shield more useful, but at the same time not too useful. Any kind of shield use is basically tied to stamina, the same thing that dodging and attacking are from. It feels set up so that you rely on the shield, but not too much.  

If you block an attack, you lose a massive amount of stamina, generally correlated with the amount of health you would have lost otherwise.

If you hold up your shield, then your stamina returns incredibly slowly.

I think this is basically the same as in Demon's Souls, but I think that game was more versatile in playing, and the shield use felt less irritating.  

At this point, I feel a lot better about getting through it.


And I really like the connectedness of the map.  I am pretty sure there are some points in the map, where you are like 30 seconds away from 4 different levels, and it's not because they're small levels or anything.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Nov 15, 2021, 12:11 AM
Really getting into Red Dead 2 again. Such a good game. Annoying in parts though, like driving wagons and you hit a tree or a stone.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 01, 2021, 04:57 AM
At this point I'm probably like 75% done with Dark Souls.

Not much has changed.

Great level design. Like 90% of the levels themselves are good. A couple of weirdly bad levels. But the interconnectness is still great. There are a good number of places where you can go in 4 or so directions and end up in wildly different levels.  It's not open world, but it's not quite linear either.
 
Kind of janky controls relative to the other Souls games.

One annoyance, when you're locked into an enemy and you try to roll in a specific direction, it often doesn't seem to do that. I very often end up rolling in the opposite direction of where the stick is going and it's a bit weird.  

Like I said before healing takes like a solid 4 seconds, very different from either Demons Souls or Bloodborne.

It kind of feels like a big portion of the challenge with Dark Souls is the clunky controls.  Bloodborne and Demons Souls felt more about figuring out the enemy.

I'm looking forward to getting to Dark Souls 2 soonish....
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 08, 2021, 02:50 PM
I've put 76 hours into Dark Souls...

I've had a hard time getting into it.
Almost done. Have to beat 3 bosses yet. 2 of them are pretty close though.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 15, 2021, 12:46 PM
I think I'm going to wait on some of the big games next year. 

I want to get through some of my backlog first.
Dark Souls 1 - 3
Sekiro
Mass Effect 1 - 3

And I think I want to have a return with Uncharted soon.

And I am thinking I want to get the platinum for Dark Souls, but that's going to be quite the investment. :P   
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 20, 2021, 05:26 PM
I think I'm going to wait on some of the big games next year.  

I want to get through some of my backlog first.
Dark Souls 1 - 3
Sekiro
Mass Effect 1 - 3

And I think I want to have a return with Uncharted soon.

And I am thinking I want to get the platinum for Dark Souls, but that's going to be quite the investment. :P  
Have you never played Mass Effect before?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Dec 20, 2021, 06:00 PM
Have you never played Mass Effect before?
Nope.  
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Dec 20, 2021, 06:04 PM
Nope.  
nor i.

i think i may pick up the remasters in a year or so when i can pick them up for under $20.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Dec 20, 2021, 06:56 PM
Nope.  
nor i.

i think i may pick up the remasters in a year or so when i can pick them up for under $20.
Don't know how well they aged, but 2 and 3 are goat.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Jan 26, 2022, 10:33 PM
I've been waiting for the right time to play Parallax. For over 5 years I have thought about when it'd be best to study it and compare the game with Hapax.

Today was finally the day, and this was not the game I expected!

lol I thought it'd be like Antichamber a bit but no. It's literally just separate puzzle levels with absolutely nothing tying them together. Not at all my thing.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150730050353/http://killscreendaily.com/articles/parallax-got-puzzles/
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Jan 26, 2022, 11:39 PM
you should play hob. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Jan 27, 2022, 12:21 AM
you should play hob.
I watched a few videos about it back when it released. Would be fun to play it.

Right now I'm focused on first person puzzleish games though. Relicta is free on Epic today so I might play that next. Or the Forgotten City.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Aug 22, 2022, 04:44 AM
I played Myst 3. Was ok. Not as good as riven but not bad. Bit of a dumb story.

edt: rewatching some riven gameplay. It is not even close to the quality of riven.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 19, 2022, 06:24 PM
Not technically a backlog yet, but lots of big franchises where I would think it'd be fun to play through all of them:

Super Mario: multiple platforms
Legend of Zelda: multiple platforms
Metroid: multiple platforms
Final Fantasy: multiple platforms
Metal Gear Solid: multiple platforms
Resident Evil: Currently available on PS4
Borderlands: Currently available on PS4
Killzone: requires PS3
Resistance: not available
Elder Scrolls: only on PC
Half Life: only on PC
Portal: only on PC
Red Dead?: multiple platforms
Dragon Age: multiple platforms
Halo: on PC or XSX
Gears: on PC or XSX
Watch Dogs:


TitleLength for main gamePlatform NotesEntries
Super Mario5-15Switch: 64, Sunshine, Galaxy 1, Odyssey
Switch: NSMBU
Super Mario Bros 1-3 + lost levels
Super Mario Land 1,2
Super Mario World 1,2
New Super Mario Bros (Wii, 2, U)
Super Mario 64
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Mario Galaxy 1,2
Super Mario Odyssey
Legend of Zelda15-50 hoursPrimarily on Switch + OnlineThe Legend of Zelda
Zelda 2
Link to the Past
Ocarina of Time
Link's Awakening
Majora's Mask
Wind Waker
Twilight Princess
Skyward Sword
Breath of the Wild
Metroid6-15
Final Fantasy15-50 hoursPC: 1-6,13
PS5 7-12, 15
Final Fantasy I-XV (Excluding XI, XIV)
Metal Gear Solid5 - 50 hoursPS3: 1-4  :'(
PS5: 5
Metal Gear 1,2
Metal Gear Solid 1-5
Resident Evil5 - 12 hoursPS5: 1-8Resident Evil 1-8
Borderlands20 - 30PS5: 1-3, PreBorderlands 1-3, Pre
Killzone7-10PS3: 1-3
PS5: Shadowfall
Killzone 1-3, Shadowfall
Resistance8-12PS3: 1-3Resistance 1-3
Elder Scrolls20-50PC: 1,2
XSX: 3-4
PS5: 5
Elder Scrolls 1-5
Half Life3-13PC: allHalf-life 1,2, Episode 1,2; Alyx
Portal3-9PC: allPortal 1,2
Red Dead18-50PS3: 1
PS5: 2
Red Dead Redemption 1-2
Dragon Age26-50PC: Origins, II
PS5: Inquisition, Dreadfall
Dragon Age Origins
Dragon Age II
Dragon Age Inquisition
Dragon Age Dreadwolf
Halo6-11XSX: 1-5, infiniteHalo 1-5, Infinite
Gears9-11XSX: 1-5Gears 1-5
Watch Dogs18-20PS5: 1-2, LegionWatch Dogs 1-2, Legion
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 24, 2022, 02:42 AM
Cuurent plan:
Replay GoW
Ragnarok
Replay Uncharted
Resident Evil (as many as I'm willing to play.)
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Oct 24, 2022, 04:48 AM
Cuurent plan:
Replay GoW
Ragnarok
Replay Uncharted
Resident Evil (as many as I'm willing to play.)
Why uncharted?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 24, 2022, 08:11 AM
Why uncharted?
Because it's been a while since I've played most of them.

Like 3+ years.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 24, 2022, 02:26 PM
Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 4 in particular are 2 of my favorite games ever.

I played U2 like 15 times in the 4 years after it came out, and have only played it once or twice after.

Never played the remasters. Been wanting to play them again for a while.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 24, 2022, 03:28 PM
dang.   i like the game too but i can't imagine playing any game that many times.  i have soo many new games i've never played in my backlog that i kind of feel guilty playing any game even just a 2nd time.   for me pretty much just ratchet and clank games get a replay.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: SWORDF1SH on Oct 24, 2022, 10:21 PM
Uncharted 2 and Uncharted 4 in particular are 2 of my favorite games ever.

I played U2 like 15 times in the 4 years after it came out, and have only played it once or twice after.

Never played the remasters. Been wanting to play them again for a while.
I enjoy plating the uncharted games. Can play for hours finding the hidden treasures.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Oct 25, 2022, 12:12 AM
dang.   i like the game too but i can't imagine playing any game that many times.  i have soo many new games i've never played in my backlog that i kind of feel guilty playing any game even just a 2nd time.   for me pretty much just ratchet and clank games get a replay.
This was mostly when I was a high schooler, so I had more time than I had money/games.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Oct 25, 2022, 12:49 AM
This was mostly when I was a high schooler, so I had more time than I had money/games.
well that makes sense then.  

HS was the only period where I didn't game.  I skipped the N64 until it was retro. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 03, 2022, 03:44 AM
I need to redo my op at some point. Tons of games have been added since then and tons I'll realistically never play.

But today I played Quern (https://store.steampowered.com/app/512790). Spiritual successor to Myst but not that good imo.

First off it had horrible performance. For a 2016 indie game I'd expect it to run flawlessly on my rig but nope. Had to use a scaled resolution, but every time the game saved the graphics were reset. I got pretty fast at popping open the settings and putting the scale back. Was annoying but slightly fun since the game saved before most animations. Made them more nostalgic at 20fps.

The puzzles were often really bad. Half were incredibly obtuse and lacked any form of logic or goal. Literally the only way to solve them is to just exhaust every possibility until the correct thing happens. I ended up using online hints a few times because it felt like a waste of time. A third of the puzzles were standard logic ones you've seen before, like simon says. Not too interesting but they were enjoyable. Just a few puzzles were great/solid imo. They involved logic and creative solutions.

Story was minimal but unlike Myst it didn't feel deep. There was just one "age" and the moral dilemma in the game was really simple. By the end I disliked everyone. I was also frustrated with how artificial everything is. They lampshade this a bit and make it part of the story, but it just makes the lack of agency worse. For example items in my inventory would randomly disappear because the plot decided I was done with them.

5/10, just a very average puzzle game. On PC and Xbox.

Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 03, 2022, 11:53 PM
I started playing Immortals Fenix Rising.

Shocked at how good it is compared to my expectations. I think the world and gameplay will get boring after dozens of hours but it has a unique flair I was not expecting.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Nov 04, 2022, 12:16 AM
I've eyed it up many times on the sales. worth $10?
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Nov 04, 2022, 12:22 AM
I've eyed it up many times on the sales. worth $10?
Don't know, I'm only 1 hour in.

I got it around Christmas last year for $15 or so.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Jan 28, 2023, 05:04 PM
I've done it. After 10 years, I've finally played Ryse Son of Rome.

It's not that good. I can see why it reviewed so poorly. Somehow For Honor has a better campaign. My favorite parts where when they said "Rise, my son of Rome" and "Son of Rome, Rise." Peak writing right there.

Combat was really janky. It feels like 90% of their time was spent on the execution system yet it's fundamentally broken. There is no immediate feedback for starting an execution, and it often fails to start, so you need to keep smashing buttons as if you're still in combat.

Historical accuracy was horrible! I just got back from Rome so I was excited to see Rome, yet most of the game is in England.  :'(



They really wanted a gow clone.

edt: forgot to mention it, but thanks for the gifted copy all those years ago
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jan 28, 2023, 05:55 PM
edt: forgot to mention it, but thanks for the gifted copy all those years ago
From who?

 ???
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Jan 28, 2023, 06:09 PM
From who?

 ???
nnodley
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: darkknightkryta on Feb 01, 2023, 02:21 AM
After God of War I've actually been wanting to finish up stuff.  Been working my way through Sakura Wars, Wild Arms and Fair Fencer F and I'm cleaning up Xenoblade Chronicles 2.  Abandoning all side quests to just focus on the main game made the game not a slog and relatively enjoyable.  I need to do that more but my OCD kicks in :(.

On another note, before I went back to Xenoblade, I put in the 3D Mario collection.  Now, I played a bit of Mario Galaxy, I enjoyed it, got a bit bored at how repetitive it got... in the second stage, so I stopped playing it to play something else.  But I know I'll eventually finish it on the collection, but I didn't actually put it on.  I did put Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine.  Holy hell.  I get Mario 64 is one of the first 3D platformer, but it's utterly unplayable.  I'll forgive the level design.  But the way Mario moves is almost unforgiveable.  He's constantly running on ice.  It makes jumps also a lot harder than they need to be.  Or doing anything in the game that requires any kind of precision.   Which is a lot.  So I tried Mario Sunshine after and I was not impressed, at all.  Bad controls, the tutorial was so long I could only imagine trying to clean up a whole level.  To sum up, other than Mario Galaxy, I don't think I'll ever finish Mario 64 or Mario Sunshine.


Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Feb 01, 2023, 02:38 AM
Maybe the port sucks.

64 still holds up as a really good platformer.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: kitler53 on Feb 01, 2023, 01:43 PM
I agree. 

Mario 64 is pure nostalgia for people.  it is objectively a terrible game.  it does not hold up like the nes,snes games. 
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 06, 2023, 04:24 PM
I really need to finish a bunch of games.

Ghost of Tsushima
Death Stranding
Returnal
Diablo III


I kind of suck at finishing games. I either get swept away and am happy to play/replay the same game months on end, or I drop them like 2 weeks in at the first sight of trouble.
Title: Re: Battle of the Backlog
Post by: Legend on Sep 06, 2023, 11:06 PM
I really need to finish a bunch of games.

Ghost of Tsushima
Death Stranding
Returnal
Diablo III


I kind of suck at finishing games. I either get swept away and am happy to play/replay the same game months on end, or I drop them like 2 weeks in at the first sight of trouble.
My problem is that I always think I should save a game till I'm working on something similar as a dev. I tell myself "Ghost of Tsushima would do nothing for Hapax yet maybe having it fresh in my mind for Forged Odyssey would be handy."

Then I finally play it only to realize it's hardly applicable and I should have just played years ago.