Disney is having a bad year at the box office

[Legend]

lol that's pretty funny. Unless it's a part 1 and part 2 type story like Pirates 2 and 3, that seems so desperate.

Also the director of Avengers Kang Dynasty dropped out. Hopefully they're dropping Kang and the multiverse too since a simple recast wouldn't solve any of their financial problems.

On Marvels news, the movie is performing as expected. Huge flop, worse than the Flash. Likely to be the biggest bomb in film history but maybe it'll have just good enough legs to avoid that. EDT: numbers came out for today, the legs in America are getting worse not better. Sub $100 million in America, sub $200 world wide are likely.

[Legend]

Ok Marvel might be legit dead. The Marvels did $1.2 million yesterday, below even Morbius which did $1.4 million on its first Thursday.

Captain Marvel was the MCU's third strongest franchise at the domestic box office (behind Avengers and Black Panther), yet it is now Morbius level.

That should not be possible. Every future mcu movie is fighting an uphill battle.

[Legend]

My heart just sunk so low 

Wish - Metacritic

Only 15 reviews at the moment but this is lower than any other Disney animation movie I can think of.

EDT: Chicken Little from 2005 has a 48 on Metacritic. Meet the Robinsons from 2007 has a 61 on Metacritic. Unless Wish gets a miracle in later reviews, it's Disney animation's worst film in 18 years.

[Legend]

Wish is another box office bomb.

Guardians of the Galaxy 3-made some money, but not as much as Disney is used to.

Ant Man, Little Mermaid, and Elemental-made a little or lost a little, major disapointments compared to what Disney is used to.

Indiana Jones, Haunted Mansion, The Marvels, and Wish - all huge box office bombs, some of the biggest bombs ever.

What a year.

[darkknightkryta]

I don't think anyone had the foresight to think "I think we need to pause Marvel after Endgame".  Oh well.  On another note; I think Disney lost the children market.  My current students don't care much, at all, for superhero movies anymore.  Nor Star Wars shows.  Not really Disney's fault, but I think Tik Tok is accelerating the destruction of Hollywood.

[Legend]

I don't think anyone had the foresight to think "I think we need to pause Marvel after Endgame".  Oh well.  On another note; I think Disney lost the children market.  My current students don't care much, at all, for superhero movies anymore.  Nor Star Wars shows.  Not really Disney's fault, but I think Tik Tok is accelerating the destruction of Hollywood.

I think Disney lost everyone. Disney Animation and Pixar are now below Dreamworks and Illumination, that is crazy. Random Trolls 3 is making more at the box office than Disney's 100 year celebration princess movie.

It's the third console curse applied to movies I guess. Get too successful and you start assuming your audience will be happy with whatever you give them.

[the-pi-guy]

Bob Iger

"I was disappointed in what I was seeing in the transition period and while I was out," he said, but noted that he "worked hard at distancing myself from it." He added that a "robust" process is currently underway to identify a new successor.

"I have a lot of respect for Elon and what he's accomplished. Not just you know, one business, but a few businesses. And we know Elon is larger than life in many respects, and that his name is very much tied to the companies he either founded or he owns, whether it's Tesla or SpaceX, or now X. And by him taking the position that he took in quite a public manner, we just felt that the association with that position and Elon Musk and X was not necessarily a positive one for us. And we decided we would pull our advertising," Iger said.

Bob Iger says creators at Disney have lost sight of what their jobs should be, entertain first, not messages.

He adds that stories infused with “positive messages for the world” can be great but that it shouldn’t be the primary job.

(Source: @sherman4949) pic.twitter.com/h7qKyqJE05

— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) November 29, 2023

[the-pi-guy]

I know that Iger had a massive hand in making Disney the monster it is today. (Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, Fox is some crazy expansion).

But I get mixed feelings about quite a few of the things that he's said.  

"Quality needs attention ... It doesn't happen by accident. Quantity, in our case, diluted quality," Iger said.

This is good I think. Shouldn't push out 10 Star Wars movies and 3 Marvel movies a year just because.

entertain first. It's not about messages.

I don't think the problem is that stuff has messages. This just gives me old man yelling at clouds vibes. I think a lot of the best stuff has thoughtful messages behind the package.

[Dr. Pezus]

I know that Iger had a massive hand in making Disney the monster it is today. (Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars, Fox is some crazy expansion).

But I get mixed feelings about quite a few of the things that he's said.  

This is good I think. Shouldn't push out 10 Star Wars movies and 3 Marvel movies a year just because.

I don't think the problem is that stuff has messages. This just gives me old man yelling at clouds vibes. I think a lot of the best stuff has thoughtful messages behind the package.

I think he just means all their focus now has been on being politically correct with good messaging, forgetting to make better content while doing it. Stuff such as star wars, all their remakes and now Marvel all show signs of that imo

Maybe they mainly need better writers though

[the-pi-guy]

I think he just means all their focus now has been on being politically correct with good messaging

Yeah, that's the old man yelling at clouds bit.  

I don't think Disney's issue has anything to do with their messaging.

[nnodley]

Yeah, that's the old man yelling at clouds bit. 

I don't think Disney's issue has anything to do with their messaging.

Yeah I'd agree. It's not like they are being super in your face about trying new things with doing more inclusive stuff. In my opinion, the biggest issue is they've lost the originality they once had. So many remakes and rehashes of stories that people are just bored of them.

[Legend]

Bob's direct quote is of course dumb but it certainly seems true that Disney has alienated a massive amount of their audience. They need to talk to James Cameron and learn how to make movies that appeal to everyone again.

[Dr. Pezus]

Yeah I'd agree. It's not like they are being super in your face about trying new things with doing more inclusive stuff. In my opinion, the biggest issue is they've lost the originality they once had. So many remakes and rehashes of stories that people are just bored of them.

You're both basically agreeing with him. They've lost focus. Recently and really for many years it's more like they're trying to fill a quota than to make great content. For Disney it shouldn't be enough to make passable stuff.

[Legend]

Welp I watched Indiana Jones.

It has some redeeming qualities. I actually enjoyed de-aged Ford and could love a full movie that was just a direct Raiders sequel. Also liked some spoiler things.

Most of the other stuff was worse than I expected. Doesn't even feel right to call this an Indiana Jones movie. Never thought I'd appreciate Crystal Skull so much.

Also such a disservice to Wernher von braun. They changed his name so they wouldn't get sued but they could have just made their own Nazi.


One of the biggest box office bombs of all time and for good reason. Wonder if the video game can save the franchise.

[the-pi-guy]

Kind of wild that Elemental is sitting at 2.5x the boxoffice of Wish.