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Title: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 01, 2019, 12:20 PM
I know, I know.  
We've tried this
1 2 3 etc
a lot of times!  

But, you know what they say etc+1 is the best!  

-Would you like to make something?
-And what would you like to make?
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 01, 2019, 01:33 PM
Yes we should make something.

I have no idea.  Something small and quick and that we can maybe put out for a cheap price.  

Time to get shame done and make that MONEY!
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Xevross on Jul 01, 2019, 02:53 PM
Sure why not I can be totally useful 8)
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 01, 2019, 03:26 PM
Should we do something VR? 

There should be in a thread somewhere the ideas we were playing around with before.  One of those may work.  i'll try and find it


https://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?board=22 (https://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?board=22)

This is shameful. lmao

oh how different i felt about getting into the industry.  Some of those posts i made in some of those threads i was so hopeful about the industry.  I'm way past that shame now. 
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 01, 2019, 04:02 PM
Is it actually happening!?

How about we start with a game jam? Give everyone a weekend to whip together a super simple game and get the juices flowing. Then use that as a jumping off point for a collaborative game that's of a similar scope but more polished.

I think we're all fairly busy with life at the moment so starting with a nice casual game that only takes a few hours a week and can be finished in a month seems like a good idea.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 01, 2019, 04:09 PM
Is it actually happening!?

Probably not, but we have to try.  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 01, 2019, 04:11 PM
Probably not, but we have to try.  
well it won't with that attitude!  8)
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 02, 2019, 07:29 PM
The space below

Caught in a net

180 degrees

Between the lines

So big, so small



Game jam themes. If we want to go this route, vote for one above.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 02, 2019, 07:41 PM
A couple things I'd like to try doing differently if we work as a team:

-Have check ins.  Every person who is working on the game, has to check in every couple days.  Whether that's "I worked on this" or "I am not able to work today".  Just because it's really easy to go a few days without doing anything, and those few days, can easily turn into a few weeks.  

-Have task laid out.  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Xevross on Jul 02, 2019, 09:01 PM
Game jam thing sounds cool although I have no idea what I'd be doing so wouldn't really work for me ;D
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: darkknightkryta on Jul 02, 2019, 11:52 PM
Shouldn't a certain someone be releasing a game soon?  ::)
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 02, 2019, 11:58 PM
Shouldn't a certain someone be releasing a game soon?  ::)
Hey give Nnodley a break, he's trying to his best!  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 03, 2019, 02:16 AM
Hey give Nnodley a break, he's trying to his best!  
lmao!  Gonna be a while for mine.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 09, 2019, 08:46 PM
Not letting this die!

A couple things I'd like to try doing differently if we work as a team:

-Have check ins.  Every person who is working on the game, has to check in every couple days.  Whether that's "I worked on this" or "I am not able to work today".  Just because it's really easy to go a few days without doing anything, and those few days, can easily turn into a few weeks.  

-Have task laid out.  
Exactly. If we all don't consistently report in then it'd either die off or become a one person project.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 09, 2019, 09:02 PM
What do people want to make?  

I think we need something that's "too" easy.  

Better yet, something easy but also something that can have a lot of depth added to it.  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 09, 2019, 09:13 PM
I'd kind of like to make a farming game.  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 10, 2019, 01:30 PM
This is going to happen.  

Are we just gonna make a private thread here or do we want to go one step further and make a slack for everyone to post in?
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 15, 2019, 03:34 AM
I'd kind of like to make a farming game.  
I really like the farming game idea, because you can take things step by step.  Can have a lot of small victories.  

Like you can start with a home life, and you'd have a lot of little victories with:
-making a new plant
-making a new building
-making a new animal

And then if you really wanted to, you could call it done.  
Otherwise you could keep going and add stuff like:
-NPCs
--dialogue
--AI
-a town or a few
--buildings
--roads
-caves

Would anyone be interested in working together on it?
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 15, 2019, 04:20 AM
I'm down for helping with anything. You and nnodley agree on something and I'll be there to assist.

I still think a game jam sounds cool though haha.

This is going to happen.  

Are we just gonna make a private thread here or do we want to go one step further and make a slack for everyone to post in?
Probably should keep it here to make it as simple as possible to stay involved.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 15, 2019, 05:00 PM
I'm down for helping with anything. You and nnodley agree on something and I'll be there to assist.

I still think a game jam sounds cool though haha.
Probably should keep it here to make it as simple as possible to stay involved.
what i figured, just wanted to throw it out there if anybody had wanted to do that.

I really like the farming game idea, because you can take things step by step.  Can have a lot of small victories.  

Like you can start with a home life, and you'd have a lot of little victories with:
-making a new plant
-making a new building
-making a new animal

And then if you really wanted to, you could call it done.  
Otherwise you could keep going and add stuff like:
-NPCs
--dialogue
--AI
-a town or a few
--buildings
--roads
-caves

Would anyone be interested in working together on it?
Yep.  Totally in!!!

I like the farming idea as well.  Let's do it.  

We should start putting together some sort of game dev doc.  Like make it a google doc that everyone has access to and keep filling out.  

Will need to figure out style, camera view(figure we will go isometric?), and some sort of timeline for a "release".
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 15, 2019, 05:26 PM
what i figured, just wanted to throw it out there if anybody had wanted to do that.
Yep.  Totally in!!!

I like the farming idea as well.  Let's do it.  

We should start putting together some sort of game dev doc.  Like make it a google doc that everyone has access to and keep filling out.  

Will need to figure out style, camera view(figure we will go isometric?), and some sort of timeline for a "release".
What would you think of making it for VR?  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 15, 2019, 06:26 PM
What would you think of making it for VR? 
I mean no reason not to.  Especially with quest being so popular.  We would just have to get accepted to release on there though. But we can develop for PC based VR though.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 15, 2019, 06:45 PM
I've been meaning to apply for quest anyway. I could send that in.

On pc, you need to support steam vr and oculus even though steam supports oculus. I did steam only for Twisty Puzzle Simulator since I wasn't supporting quest.

Also do we want to use Unity?
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 15, 2019, 07:24 PM
I've been meaning to apply for quest anyway. I could send that in.

On pc, you need to support steam vr and oculus even though steam supports oculus. I did steam only for Twisty Puzzle Simulator since I wasn't supporting quest.

Also do we want to use Unity?
I'd rather not, but if majority rules unity, then i guess i can go with it.

I absolutely hate unity.  I feel like it's GARBAGE!
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 15, 2019, 07:28 PM
Nnodley likes unreal, pretty sure.
I don't have enough experience either way. 
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 15, 2019, 07:33 PM
I can't express my hate for unity enough. lol
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 15, 2019, 08:30 PM
Unreal it is!
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 15, 2019, 10:37 PM
@Legend  Do you have a specific template you use for a game dev doc or did you just go and create your own overtime?
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 15, 2019, 11:39 PM
And here I was going to ask Nnodley.  

;D

I'm sure the ones I've tried making probably aren't good.  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 16, 2019, 12:41 AM
These were the sections in VizionEck's original GDD.

YOU MUST BE LOGGED IN TO SEE THIS CONTENT


Was built for Sony only. My dev focused GDDs are all forum threads in a private area.

For a smaller game like this, we could break it down into


The "Game"
•Visuals
•Sound
•Controls
...features unique to our farming game

Standard Systems
•Saved games
•Translations
•Accessibility (colorblind, customized controls)
•Main Menu/Options Menu
•Quality Settings and Performance Targets

Business
•Platforms
•Price
•Profit Share
•DLC
•Marketing


(The • parts are examples of potential subsections, not exhaustive or necessarily needed)
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Xevross on Jul 16, 2019, 01:01 AM
Was telling Pi I usually find farming games boring but I guess I can help. Might be good to have an opinion of someone who's more critical of these games when making it. Best part of stardew valley for me was the relationship stuff and general villager stories + the mine. I guess if the regular daily tasks felt more satisfying I might enjoy it more, but my problem is that the days just keep rolling buy with nothing really to differentiate them once you've played for a while.

Wonder if some animal crossing features could work in a more farming focused game. I loved Animal Crossing when I played it on Wii and put quite a bit of time into it.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 16, 2019, 01:09 AM
And here I was going to ask Nnodley.  

;D

I'm sure the ones I've tried making probably aren't good.  
haha well I've neglected making a full one for any of my stuff.  Starting to go through creating them now and found a couple free templates, but I haven't gone through them enough yet.  Probably why my game(s) are going slower than I had hoped.  But better late than never to make one I guess.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 16, 2019, 01:12 AM
Was telling Pi I usually find farming games boring but I guess I can help.
Even for me personally.  
I really like farming games, but I usually lose out on my interest...

If we could get far enough with the game, I would want to try figuring out how to make it better for longer.  
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Wonder if some animal crossing features could work in a more farming focused game. I loved Animal Crossing when I played it on Wii and put quite a bit of time into it.
As I said before.  The thing I really like about the farming idea is it'd be easy to make something, and then there is so much possibility of adding stuff to the experience.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 16, 2019, 01:12 AM
Was telling Pi I usually find farming games boring but I guess I can help. Might be good to have an opinion of someone who's more critical of these games when making it. Best part of stardew valley for me was the relationship stuff and general villager stories + the mine. I guess if the regular daily tasks felt more satisfying I might enjoy it more, but my problem is that the days just keep rolling buy with nothing really to differentiate them once you've played for a while.

Wonder if some animal crossing features could work in a more farming focused game. I loved Animal Crossing when I played it on Wii and put quite a bit of time into it.
Yeah i'm sure this type of opinion will come in handy.   I think there's plenty of potential to make a meaningful farming type game.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 16, 2019, 01:13 AM
haha well I've neglected making a full one for any of my stuff.  Starting to go through creating them now and found a couple free templates, but I haven't gone through them enough yet.  Probably why my game(s) are going slower than I had hoped.  But better late than never to make one I guess.
Can't say making game docs have helped me any.   ;)

Although I manage to keep a lot of stuff in my head...  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 16, 2019, 01:13 AM
Even for me personally.  
I really like farming games, but I usually lose out on my interest...

If we could get far enough with the game, I would want to try figuring out how to make it better for longer.  
As I said before.  The thing I really like about the farming idea is it'd be easy to make something, and then there is so much possibility of adding stuff to the experience.
Yep, it's easy enough to get as good of a base as we can and then work from there.

Can't say making game docs have helped me any.   ;)

Although I manage to keep a lot of stuff in my head...  
Yeah I have and remember most everything I've came up with in my head.    Plus for my game(s) they are kinda "basic" enough that I don't think it's something totally necessary.  

For this game though it will give us something to look to and try to accomplish.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 16, 2019, 02:39 AM
I don't care about farming games either lol. I mostly just want experience working on a game with a group though so anything goes. Animal Crossing style could be great. Less "Farming Simulator" the better.


Since Pi had the farming idea, what were you thinking?
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 16, 2019, 02:51 AM
I don't care about farming games either lol. I mostly just want experience working on a game with a group though so anything goes. Animal Crossing style could be great. Less "Farming Simulator" the better.


Since Pi had the farming idea, what were you thinking?
I haven't actually played Animal Crossing.  :P

I'd still like the farming aspect.  Honestly the Animal Crossing idea doesn't really go against the farming style.   But it seems like it'd more about adding depth to the non-farming aspects I guess.

Have you played Harvest Moon/Stardew Valley? 

There's also Rune Factory that is HM but adds an RPG with monsters.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: Legend on Jul 16, 2019, 03:28 AM
I haven't actually played Animal Crossing.  :P

I'd still like the farming aspect.  Honestly the Animal Crossing idea doesn't really go against the farming style.   But it seems like it'd more about adding depth to the non-farming aspects I guess.

Have you played Harvest Moon/Stardew Valley?  

There's also Rune Factory that is HM but adds an RPG with monsters.
I've only played Animal Crossing and Minecraft.

I don't mean that it should play like Animal Crossing, just that it shouldn't have a "John Deere" feel imo.
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: nnodley on Jul 16, 2019, 02:58 PM
yeah and for the love of god it can not be anything like farmville or any other facebook farming games. haha

Does someone want to create a thread for the game?  Get the ball rolling at least.  
Title: Re: Do people want to try making a game together?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Jul 16, 2019, 04:00 PM
I don't mean that it should play like Animal Crossing, just that it shouldn't have a "John Deere" feel imo.
yeah and for the love of god it can not be anything like farmville or any other facebook farming games. haha
Lol.  
No those games are terrible.