PS5 |OT| now with wireless updates

[Legend]

CFI-2016 PS5 Case pic.twitter.com/udFyQbVpz8

— BwE (@BwE_Dev) August 11, 2023

The gap at the top looks way too huge. Either it's fake or decreasing size was not Sony's goal imo.

[Legend]

All the memes about its size are great  

Sony's going to have to come out and reveal this thing since it's just getting mocked for being essentially the same size.

[Dr. Pezus]

It seems a lot smaller to me just based on this video

[Legend]

It seems a lot smaller to me just based on this video

It's 5cm shorter but otherwise the same size, apparently.

[BananaKing]

It's 5cm shorter but otherwise the same size, apparently.

If it's real then that's disappointing. Unless it's a pro version

[Legend]

If it's real then that's disappointing. Unless it's a pro version

Maybe it's just to decrease costs on Sony's end.


So much of the speculation I've seen from insiders makes no freaking sense.

[the-pi-guy]

Maybe it's just to decrease costs on Sony's end.


So much of the speculation I've seen from insiders makes no freaking sense.

What speculation doesn't make sense?

[Legend]

What speculation doesn't make sense?

Selling the system digital only and having a detachable disk drive for people that want one.

We were just talking the other day about how popular disk PS5's are. No way would Sony discontinue them and hope an equivalent amount of people buy a $50 accessory.

[the-pi-guy]

Selling the system digital only and having a detachable disk drive for people that want one.

We were just talking the other day about how popular disk PS5's are. No way would Sony discontinue them and hope an equivalent amount of people buy a $50 accessory.

A lot of people have been confused about that.

The original reporting was:

It's understood that this new PlayStation 5 console will be sold on its own, or, in a bundle with the detachable disc drive.

Sources have implied that although the new detachable disc drive is portable, it will not ruin the aesthetics of the console and will attach to it without looking external,

https://insider-gaming.com/new-playstation-5/


My understanding of it has been that:
- Sony basically gets to make one console, and basically only need to swap in or out one piece.


But most people seem to have been expecting a slim model where the disc drive isn't part of the console.

But I'm assuming that part of the case comes off with the disc drive.

[the-pi-guy]

How MS reacted to PS5

Hamren lists the variable GPU and CPU clock rates of the PS5, "versus us running at higher sustained rates." Hamren admits Sony has a clear advantage on SSD performance with the PS5:

Cerny talked at length about the move to SSDs and the advantages for game developers and consumers. They have optimized for raw higher raw throughput (2x ours with slightly better hardware compression and associated performance improvements) as opposed to a more integrated streaming architecture enabled by Sampler Feedback Streaming.

Elsewhere, the 12 teraflops of performance versus Sony's 10 teraflops was also briefly discussed. "[Cerny] emphasized that GPU teraflops and CU is not a good measurement of performance. We made this same point with Digital Foundry, but we do have a clear performance advantage (12 v 10)," wrote Hamren.

Spencer then explains he purchased a PS5 in August 2022. "Sony has been force bundling HZD for $50 [additional] for awhile now," said Spencer. "I bought my PS5 2 weeks ago and only option was HZD bundle at $549." HZD incorrectly refers to Horizon Zero Dawn here, as it was Horizon Forbidden West that Sony bundled with the PS5.

It's a little funny to think that Phil might have had trouble getting a PS5 too.

[the-pi-guy]

New PS5 system software beta features revealed:

???? Added accessibility features
???? Support for compatible @Dolby Atmos-enabled audio devices
????? Social feature enhancements
???? Larger-capacity M.2 SSD support

?? Full details at PS Blog: https://t.co/RyzgdMeWrS pic.twitter.com/DdtUahSyGj

— PlayStation (@PlayStation) July 31, 2023

Update went live last week, guess I forgot to say anything about it.

[Legend]

How MS reacted to PS5



It's a little funny to think that Phil might have had trouble getting a PS5 too.

SSDs have been pretty disappointing in general. Loading interiors in starfield is faster than it was in skyrim, but it's still a thing.

This gen had so much talk about loading screens being a thing of the past.

[kitler53]

in my experience loading screen are a thing of the past.    don't believe me?   go fire up that ps3/4 again and tell me that the ps5 isn't lighting fast. 

...because it's nice we quickly became accustom to it and forgot just how bad it used to be.   


i have no comment on xbox.   if starfield sucks at loading things that sounds like an xbox problem not a playstation problem.   there have been at least a few DF video where they explicitly say that xbox is 2-3x slower than playstation at loading something.   typically that is 2-3x off a really small number but 5 seconds on ps can be 15 second on xbox.

the game that comes specifically to mind is divinity orginal sin 2.  that's a game my coop buddy and i started on ps4 and finished on ps5.   the performance boost was amazing.  this is the only article i can find with respect to that and it's xbox but here it say it dropped from 75 seconds to 17 seconds: 

https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/xbox-series-x-load-times-vs-xbox-one-x-vs-xbox-series-s-vs-xbox-one/

[the-pi-guy]

SSDs have been awesome.

Demon's Souls has been one of the better experiences for me. Go from PS4 games where a lot of loading takes even up to a minute, and then you have some games like Demon's Souls where it takes like 5 seconds if that.  

On the other hand, so many games have utilized smart tricks to hide loading screens over the past few gens, that the SSD hasn't particularly made a difference for those.

[Legend]

in my experience loading screen are a thing of the past.    don't believe me?   go fire up that ps3/4 again and tell me that the ps5 isn't lighting fast.  

...because it's nice we quickly became accustom to it and forgot just how bad it used to be.  


i have no comment on xbox.   if starfield sucks at loading things that sounds like an xbox problem not a playstation problem.   there have been at least a few DF video where they explicitly say that xbox is 2-3x slower than playstation at loading something.   typically that is 2-3x off a really small number but 5 seconds on ps can be 15 second on xbox.

the game that comes specifically to mind is divinity orginal sin 2.  that's a game my coop buddy and i started on ps4 and finished on ps5.   the performance boost was amazing.  this is the only article i can find with respect to that and it's xbox but here it say it dropped from 75 seconds to 17 seconds:  

https://www.cnet.com/tech/gaming/xbox-series-x-load-times-vs-xbox-one-x-vs-xbox-series-s-vs-xbox-one/

Maybe I'm just proving Cerny's approach right since those few extra seconds are all I'm talking about.

I just did a test in starfield and it took 2 seconds to load into my ship and 10 seconds to fast travel to a different planet with my main base. That's absolutely incredible compared to previous gens, but they're still loading screens. The icon pops up in the lower right corner to make sure you know the game hasn't froze.

Meanwhile Spiderman has removed loading screens entirely. Loading is so quick that it can be hidden within the menu closing.

SSDs have been awesome.

Demon's Souls has been one of the better experiences for me. Go from PS4 games where a lot of loading takes even up to a minute, and then you have some games like Demon's Souls where it takes like 5 seconds if that.  

On the other hand, so many games have utilized smart tricks to hide loading screens over the past few gens, that the SSD hasn't particularly made a difference for those.

Actually that's a funny thought. Are there any old games with elevator loading that are awkwardly fast now?