Donald Trump is the 45th president of America

[kitler53]

Two different elections

So I registered Legend schmoe. Just have to provide a utility bill in his name for the address before he can vote. Signed an affidavit that said he was at least 18 and legal us citizen. So fudgy hard.

I could have also just said I had no street address and described my home,apparently

i get that it is two different elections.  you clearly don't get the difference between first time voter registration and voter re-registration.  

go here: https://ova.elections.il.gov/Step0.aspx
click no to "do you have a valid drivers license" and then click next.  you have to provide your SSN or your drivers license number (which you can't get without first providing your SSN).


you were able to re-register with nothing more than a utility bill because:
https://ova.elections.il.gov/RegistrationLookup.aspx


you can't first time register to vote without proper proof that you are a US citizen.  an illegal immegriant cannot just walk up to a polling place with a utiltity bill and be allowed to vote.  at best they'd be given a provisional ballot and provisional ballots do not get counted until that person returns with proper identification.

i swear to god these next 4 years are going to be exhausting.  i shouldn't have to be responsible to fact check ever opinion someone believes is fact because they are too lazy or stupid to actually get informed on the topics they are discussing.

[Max King of the Wild]

i get that it is two different elections.  you clearly don't get the difference between first time voter registration and voter re-registration.  

go here: https://ova.elections.il.gov/Step0.aspx
click no to "do you have a valid drivers license" and then click next.  you have to provide your SSN or your drivers license number (which you can't get without first providing your SSN).


you were able to re-register with nothing more than a utility bill because:
https://ova.elections.il.gov/RegistrationLookup.aspx


you can't first time register to vote without proper proof that you are a US citizen.  an illegal immegriant cannot just walk up to a polling place with a utiltity bill and be allowed to vote.  at best they'd be given a provisional ballot and provisional ballots do not get counted until that person returns with proper identification.

i swear to god these next 4 years are going to be exhausting.  i shouldn't have to be responsible to fact check ever opinion someone believes is fact because they are too lazy or stupid to actually get informed on the topics they are discussing.

Different states lol.


Checked both states, still actively registered in both.

Kitler Loves Trump is now registered in Wisconsin

[Max King of the Wild]

As a first time registration, my application asked if I had a valid WI drivers license. I said no. Then it asks if I have a SSN. I said yes. Then it asks for 4 digits of a 9 digit number. The 4 digits has a 99% likelihood to have 3-4 million people sharing those digits.

After that, it asks me to sign (or mark... Literally, it says if you can't sign mark the paper) a piece of paper and mail it in with a utility bill with your address and name. The paper you are signing is an affidavit that swears the information provided is accurate under penalty of perjury.

So how are they going to verify this SSN? Go through the rest of the millions of combinations one at a time? There are 40,000 James Smiths in the US. There is a 99% chance that out of 300 people 3 of them have the same last 4 SSN.

Now, in the case of 2012 election. I said "I need to register. Here's my name. Here's my last four. Here's my signature. Here's my bill. Thank you for my ballot." I sure bet the verified that application within milliseconds of me handing to them and them handing me the ballot

[Max King of the Wild]

IRS says it's using technology from JFK's time - Feb. 3, 2015

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EPA spill turns Animas River in Colorado a toxic orange - CNN.com

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How Flint, Michigan's tap water became toxic - CNN.com

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/26/va-has-declared-thousands-living-vets-dead-stripped-benefits-in-last-five-years.html

It's astonishing to me that anyone is gullible enough to believe that this system is infallible. There are over 200m registered voters out there and people don't think less than 1% can obtain a driver's license, get through registering, vote multiple times, or various other ways to commit some form of voter fraud is possible...

[kitler53]

no one is saying the system is infalluable but provide some proof of your claim.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/08/06/a-comprehensive-investigation-of-voter-impersonation-finds-31-credible-incidents-out-of-one-billion-ballots-cast/?utm_term=.df547ec24182


i'd be all for voting requiring IDs like the republicans keep pushing but if that is their objective then they need to follow through on the other side of things.  you can't require voter IDs but then not break down the barriers it creates.  drivers licences have a processing fee and also sort of implies you are rich enough to be able to afford a car.  a drivers license is not universally applicable:

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2012/jul/11/eric-holder/eric-holder-says-recent-studies-show-25-percent-af/

^^ which if you ask me is the only reason republicans want voter ID laws.  it's just like those "women's health" issues republicans (texas) suddenly cared about once they figured out that by passing specific laws they could shut down many planned parenthood facilities.  voting laws as republicans push it are so increadibly targeted at making it disproportionately difficult for poor minorities to vote that it's impossible for me not to view it as pure racisim (or maybe more accurately, pure political prejudice).  

if comprehensive reforms were put in place where every citizen had the same access to voting i'd be all for it.  but things are they are proposed things are clearly only about voter suppression of democrate leaning voter blocks.




https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/appeals-court-strikes-down-north-carolinas-voter-id-law/2016/07/29/810b5844-4f72-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html?utm_term=.9ec4d942e734

"The evidence in this case casts doubt on the notion that voter ID laws foster integrity and confidence," Peterson wrote. "The Wisconsin experience demonstrates that a preoccupation with mostly phantom election fraud leads to real incidents of disenfranchisement, which undermine rather than enhance confidence in elections, particularly in minority communities. To put it bluntly, Wisconsin's strict version of voter ID law is a cure worse than the disease." 

"The new provisions target African Americans with almost surgical precision" and "impose cures for problems that did not exist," Judge Diana Gribbon Motz wrote for the panel. "Thus the asserted justifications cannot and do not conceal the State's true motivation."