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Title: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Legend on Sep 11, 2014, 10:08 PM
I didn't see anyone else make a thread so....

PS4 ~ 190k
XB1 ~ 160k
WIU ~ 60k
360 ~ 50k
PS3 ~ 27k
Wii ~ 13k
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:18 PM
I thought we will talk in the prediction one :D
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Legend on Sep 11, 2014, 10:20 PM

I thought we will talk in the prediction one :D


On GAF they have the prediction thread and then open up a results thread right when the numbers start coming in.

At least IMO, I think that works better than just having one thread.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:24 PM

On GAF they have the prediction thread and then open up a results thread right when the numbers start coming in.

At least IMO, I think that works better than just having one thread.

I was not complaining :D it is cool to have a thread.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:30 PM
Ohhhhhh I just realized that it is the first NPD didn't have all weeks up on the site... what happened?
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Legend on Sep 11, 2014, 10:33 PM

Ohhhhhh I just realized that it is the first NPD didn't have all weeks up on the site... what happened?


IOI is on a vacation.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Max King of the Wild on Sep 11, 2014, 10:36 PM
God, I bet EA kicks themselves in the dog every month.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: u4gReservoirDogs on Sep 11, 2014, 10:37 PM

IOI is on a vacation.

So they say ... I think otherwise.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Max King of the Wild on Sep 11, 2014, 10:37 PM

Ohhhhhh I just realized that it is the first NPD didn't have all weeks up on the site... what happened?
we can just average out the month in weeks and subtract one. That's the closest we'll get
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:42 PM
Quote from: Aquamarine;129564701
http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/11/august-2014-npd-madden-sells-better-on-ps4-than-xbox-one/ (http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/11/august-2014-npd-madden-sells-better-on-ps4-than-xbox-one/)


August 2014 NPD: Madden sells better on PS4 than Xbox One

Consumers rushing out to adopt new hardware once again leaves them spending less on new software.

Gamers spent $561.3 million on new physical hardware and software at U.S. retailers last month, according to industry intelligence firm The NPD Group. That's up 8 percent from $521.1 million in August 2013. Like the past several months, Xbox One and PlayStation 4 accounted for most of the growth as software sales were down from last year.

"Overall new physical retail sales increased by 8 percent in August 2014 over August 2013," NPD analyst Liam Callahan said. "The month followed a similar pattern of prior months with explosive hardware growth driven by eighth-generation consoles offsetting declines in software."

Spending on game hardware reached $196.2 million. That's up a massive 116 percent compared to the same period in 2013. Spending on software, however, was down 21 percent to $231.6 million from $293.4 million in August 2013.

As always, it's important to keep in mind that the NPD's results do not reflect the entire industry. It only tracks new physical games sold at U.S. retailers. That means these figures don't include mobile games or anything sold on Steam. Instead, the NPD numbers provide a snapshot of trends in a much bigger industry.

With that in mind, let's get into the best-selling games.

Software
1. Madden NFL 15 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
2. Diablo III: Reaper of Souls (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3, PC)
3. Minecraft (360, PS3)
4. The Last of Us (PS4, PS3)
5. Call of Duty: Ghosts (360, Xbox One, PS4, PS3, PC, Wii U)
6. Lego Marvel Super Heroes (360, PS3, Wii U, PS4, 3DS, DS, Xbox One, Vita, PC)
7. Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One)
8. Watch Dogs (PS4, 360, PS3, Xbox One, PC)
9. Battlefield 4 (360, PS3, PS4, Xbox One, PC)
10. The Lego Movie Videogame (360, 3DS, PS3, Wii U, PS4, Xbox One, Vita)

Unsurprisingly, Madden topped the charts. Analysts were predicting earlier this week that the football game would perform well and even give a boost to the Xbox One since Microsoft was selling a bundle. Madden may have done that, but it still sold better on the PlayStation 4 (as you can see in the rankings in the brackets by each game). Action role-playing game Diablo III, which finally debuted on the new-gen consoles, also sold better on PS4.

It's worth pointing out that the PlayStation 4 versions outsold their Xbox One counterparts for every game on the top-10 list except for Call of Duty: Ghosts. With Sony dominating the marketing for Destiny, that's likely going to happen with that shooter in September as well. Microsoft may really start panicking if the next Call of Duty, a series that historically performed much better on Xbox One and Xbox 360, sells better on PS4.

The rest of the list looks a lot like July's NPD report. Minecraft, the block-building phenomenon, is still hovering near the top of the chart. This is after the physical 360 version finished 2013 as the ninth best-selling new game at U.S. retailers.

Hardware
The NPD Group doesn't share the hardware numbers with the public. We've asked Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo for more information about how they performed last month, and we'll update this story with any new data.

Earlier this week, analysts for investment firm Wedbush Morgan predicted that Sony sold around 175,000 PS4s at U.S. retailers, while Microsoft was right behind it with 150,000 Xbox Ones sold.

What's clear is that new-gen consoles are still selling incredibly well.


"When lining up sales of PS4 and Xbox One after ten months on the market," said Callahan. "The combined PS4 and Xbox One hardware sales are greater by over 70 percent compared to their predecessors."


Basically, in English, the NPD is finding that the PS4 and Xbox One are selling 70 percent faster than the PS3 and Xbox 360.


Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:43 PM
Sony.

Quote
Below are the PlayStation highlights from the August NPD report:

· PlayStation 4 was #1 in hardware sales for the eighth consecutive month and remains the cumulative leader for next generation game consoles.

· PlayStation led the month for next generation software with Madden NFL 15 for PS4 taking the #1 spot for overall software sales.

· Diablo III: Reaper of Souls Ultimate Evil Edition and Madden NFL 15 had their strongest sales on PS4 and were the biggest third party releases of the month.

· The Last of Us Remastered continues to have strong momentum on PS4; it was the top selling first-party title in August.

· For the third consecutive month, PlayStation was #1 in combined home console hardware sales (PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 3).
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:45 PM
Just to say :P

I told here, on VGC or GAF that the Madden bundle won't change anything and the PS4 version will sell more.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:47 PM
MS

Quote
Xbox One sales are on a positive trajectory, nearly doubling sales in August in the U.S. compared to July due in part to strong demand for the Xbox One Madden NFL 15'bundle. The holiday season is upon us we're looking forward to bringing the best value bundles, incredible offers like the 'Buy a Console Get a Game Free' promotion running now and more great games as we gear up for the launches of Halo: The Master Chief Collection, Sunset Overdrive, Forza Horizon 2, Destiny, Grand Theft Auto V and Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare."


PS. Nearly doubling sales seems to be the shipment for US... there are some hints GAF says because it did 137k in July... Yeap MS started to use shipment in NPD PR.
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Legend on Sep 11, 2014, 10:52 PM
Hmm interesting about shipped verse sold.
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Max King of the Wild on Sep 11, 2014, 10:54 PM
I'll wait to see if it's shipped. 280k xb1 + 360 would be really hard to beat ps4+3
Title: Re: 5
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:55 PM

I'll wait to see if it's shipped. 280k xb1 + 360 would be really hard to beat ps4+3

Well Sony confirmed PS4 #1.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: u4gReservoirDogs on Sep 11, 2014, 10:56 PM
Of course they are, if they can persuade people to buy Xbox One's in this way because they hear that the demand is growing ... why not?
It would be stupid to say:  "We're on second place again, we hope to be first sometime this year so please back us up until we can drop the price further then Wii-U's".
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 10:58 PM
Ohhhhhh it was corrected.

Quote
Xbox One: Correction the previous statement here was for a doubling of software revenues.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: u4gReservoirDogs on Sep 11, 2014, 10:59 PM
(http://iambrony.steeph.tp-radio.de/mlp/gif/b028e508-407e-4d26-9ec6-9a7234646aa4.gif)
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Max King of the Wild on Sep 11, 2014, 11:00 PM

Ohhhhhh it was corrected.
bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha. How would that confusion be made?
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 11:02 PM

bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha. How would that confusion be made?

I don't know MS is the master of PR  8)
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Legend on Sep 11, 2014, 11:09 PM
Ok that makes more sense.

Glad they corrected it so fast.
Title: Re: 5
Post by: DD_Bwest on Sep 11, 2014, 11:22 PM
rofl "doubled hardware!!  .... oops sorry i mean software.."   I love microsoft
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 11, 2014, 11:31 PM
It is a lot fun how I started to follow VGC again that the war changed from PS4 x Xbox One to Xbox One x Wii U... people now just open threads about that :D
Title: Re: 5
Post by: u4gReservoirDogs on Sep 11, 2014, 11:46 PM

rofl "doubled hardware!!  .... oops sorry i mean software.."   I love microsoft

My 2 years old niece would probably love them too, she likes spinning!  ;D
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Max King of the Wild on Sep 11, 2014, 11:58 PM
Someone pm the drill and see his thoughts on these number.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 12:07 AM
Quote
I can confirm that even if you include the bundled version of Madden, it still sold better on PS4.

http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/11/august-2014-npd-madden-sells-better-on-ps4-than-xbox-one/
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Legend on Sep 12, 2014, 12:16 AM
Wow that is a suprise.

I'd really expected madden to favor xbox.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 12:19 AM
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Legend on Sep 12, 2014, 12:48 AM



Well I wouldn't consider that "breaking" hahaha.
Title: Re: 5
Post by: DD_Bwest on Sep 12, 2014, 12:50 AM
rofl any updates?   the vgc thread has "wiiu really low"
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 12:58 AM
MK8 not even in the top 10. Oh, boy. Looks like it doesn't have the legs VGC is saying it has
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Legend on Sep 12, 2014, 01:00 AM

rofl any updates?   the vgc thread has "wiiu really low"


No updates.

They have that in the title just cause.


MK8 not even in the top 10. Oh, boy. Looks like it doesn't have the legs VGC is saying it has


New games on multiple systems. On a per SKU basis, MK could still be in the top 5. We just don't know yet.
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 01:08 AM

No updates.

They have that in the title just cause.

New games on multiple systems. On a per SKU basis, MK could still be in the top 5. We just don't know yet.

Well VGC is putting it at around 100k for the month (last week is missing but I estimated it). Did the Lego Movie game sell more?!
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 01:18 AM
Pezus,

About Madden in VGC... PS4 version outsold Xbox One version combined unbundled and bundled after the $400 million market deal with NFL.
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 01:19 AM
Yes, but Madden has always been relatively stronger on PS and now PS4 has a bigger userbase too.
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Legend on Sep 12, 2014, 01:32 AM

Yes, but Madden has always been relatively stronger on PS and now PS4 has a bigger userbase too.


No, it's stronger on XBOX?
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 01:34 AM

No, it's stronger on XBOX?

Not relatively. PS3 versions had a higher attach rate, I believe.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 01:45 AM
Dear God.

Originally Posted by creamsugar
Vita < 6k
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 02:02 AM
Originally Posted by John Harker
only 30k gap this month
Title: Re: 5
Post by: nnodley on Sep 12, 2014, 02:03 AM
Naturally would assume people were waiting for the destiny bundle.  Since the destiny bundle kept rising in the amazon bestsellers for the past month or so? I think september will shock a lot of people with how much ps4 sold in US.  I hope!
Title: Re: 5
Post by: Raven on Sep 12, 2014, 02:19 AM

Naturally would assume people were waiting for the destiny bundle.  Since the destiny bundle kept rising in the amazon bestsellers for the past month or so? I think september will shock a lot of people with how much ps4 sold in US.  I hope!


Not to mention the X1 Madden bundle got pretty popular there for awhile.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 02:43 AM
PS4 - 190K from Aqua.

Well that means 160k for bone.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 02:45 AM
Looks like I was close once again
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 02:47 AM
Wii U < 70k because Aqua overpedicted it.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 02:57 AM
Lol VGC shows 63k for the first 3 weeks of August. I'm guessing that's what the 4 weeks in NPD were or thereabouts
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 03:15 AM
Cream.

ToX2 ~ 43K
SF4 < 22K (PS3+360)
D3: 4-39%, 1~28, 360~19%, 3~14%
15: 4~35%, 1~26%, 360~23%, 3~16%
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 03:23 AM
SW only, bundle is about 41k.

Madden bundle.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Legend on Sep 12, 2014, 03:34 AM
Thank you for the updates.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 03:41 AM
These are approximations from @Shinra.

PS4 ~ 190k
XB1 ~ 160.2k
WIU ~ 59.75k
360 ~ 49.5k
PS3 ~ 27.25k
Wii ~ 13.5k

(http://i.picpar.com/jtdb.png)
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Max King of the Wild on Sep 12, 2014, 03:59 AM
Terrible Wii U numbers.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 04:25 AM
More from Cream.

Ellen Page remastered ~ 157k
? ~ 66k

Sum of top 10 SW LTD, not include special edition and bundle:
PS4: 7,452k
XB1: 7,207k
WiiU: 4,626k
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Shinobi-san on Sep 12, 2014, 05:38 AM
XB1 doing well to stay relevant in the US!

Next month is going to be the interesting month :D
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Legend on Sep 12, 2014, 06:33 AM
When you get final numbers etho, I'll add them to the OP.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 06:34 AM

When you get final numbers etho, I'll add them to the OP.

These are the final estimations based in Creamsugar.

PS4 ~ 190k
XB1 ~ 160k
WIU ~ 60k
360 ~ 50k
PS3 ~ 27k
Wii ~ 13k
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Legend on Sep 12, 2014, 06:36 AM

These are the final estimations based in Creamsugar.

PS4 ~ 190k
XB1 ~ 160k
WIU ~ 60k
360 ~ 50k
PS3 ~ 27k
Wii ~ 13k

Thanks

No 3DS?
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: u4gReservoirDogs on Sep 12, 2014, 07:06 AM
No 3DS- or Vita-numbers?
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 07:08 AM

No 3DS- or Vita-numbers?

Vita < 6k

No 3DS.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: u4gReservoirDogs on Sep 12, 2014, 08:40 AM
I thought Nintendo always gave the numbers ...
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 01:28 PM
Software
Madden NFL 15
PS4 (35%)
XB1 (27%)
360 (22%)
PS3 (16%)
Sales: > 1.1 million

Diablo III
PS4 (39%)
XB1 (28%)
360 (19%)
PS3 (14%)
Sales: < 400k
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 01:34 PM
So Madden PS4 and X1 should be really close with the bundle. I don't think the percentages above include the bundle
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: u4gReservoirDogs on Sep 12, 2014, 01:54 PM
But it was confirmed that even with the bundles the PS4-sales were the highest.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 02:10 PM

But it was confirmed that even with the bundles the PS4-sales were the highest.

Yeah I know. I'm just saying that PS4 version>X1 version by a very small amount with the bundle
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 02:37 PM

So Madden PS4 and X1 should be really close with the bundle. I don't think the percentages above include the bundle

The bundle is 41k... that means 3% of 1.1m... if you add that to the % the Xbox One will up to ~30% and PS4 down 34%.

In units sales that is a ~40k units using 1.1m * it can change depends how much over 1.1m it is *
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 02:39 PM
Yeah I don't see that as a big gap.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 02:58 PM
I want to share :P

(http://a.pomf.se/pccxgl.gif)
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Max King of the Wild on Sep 12, 2014, 03:43 PM

Software
Madden NFL 15
PS4 (35%)
XB1 (27%)
360 (22%)
PS3 (16%)
Sales: > 1.1 million

Diablo III
PS4 (39%)
XB1 (28%)
360 (19%)
PS3 (14%)
Sales: < 400k
insert ea sucks gif
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 03:44 PM
From GAF.

Quote from: donny2112
Photobucket is finally working!



It's worth noting that total hardware is much higher this gen, though.  Here's a software units graph for maybe a more apples to apples comparison.

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f64/donny2112/Sales%20Numbers/US_SW_201408.png)



(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f64/donny2112/Sales%20Numbers/PS360vsPS4XB1_201408.png)

(http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f64/donny2112/Sales%20Numbers/LastGenx2vsCurrentGen_201408.png)


Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Xevross on Sep 12, 2014, 04:52 PM
Xb1 got a nice boost and its good to see PS4 stay stable even though people will be waiting for Destiny. Poor WiiU

RIP in peace Vita
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 12, 2014, 05:03 PM
3DS<100k apparently
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: kitler53 on Sep 12, 2014, 05:05 PM

3DS<100k apparently


wow, that is way below ipad..
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: ethomaz on Sep 12, 2014, 06:06 PM
91k for 3DS.
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: Xevross on Sep 13, 2014, 08:23 PM

91k for 3DS.

Ouch
Title: Re: NPD August Results thread
Post by: 7H3 on Sep 14, 2014, 09:01 PM
I'd like to see those charts / graphs with out combined totals but individual totals... I mean wii sold a lot of software up front... and lack of console sales of xone and wiiu could be making the current gen worse than it is? i dunno