PlayStation 5 Technical PlayStation 5 Technical Presentation hosted by Mark Cerny announced for September 10

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Dr. Pezus

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Sep 10, 2024, 09:28 PM Last Edit: Sep 10, 2024, 09:32 PM by Dr. Pezus
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Sep 10, 2024, 03:04 PMCerny looking older :(
it's the detail of the video and hair color. As well as a few years :P

Quote from: Legend on Sep 10, 2024, 04:09 PMAlso was anyone impressed by the tech specs? I don't recall them saying anything specific but did the games look that much better?

I remember when this first leaked many had an incorrect understanding of the specs and thought it'd be halfway to PS6. Instead it sounds really really lame. "Get exactly what you can get today on your current PS5. It's just quality and performance modes combined into one." Cerny's messaging today was the same messaging they've been using internally.
I noticed significant differences watching afterwards in 4k60fps.

Too expensive for me I think/too little benefit but I'd consider it if I didn't have one already. It is a Pro after all, not for everyone.

Horizon

#46
Sep 11, 2024, 09:13 AM
Quote from: the-Pi-guy on Sep 10, 2024, 08:34 PMI have to say though, I didn't realize how out of whack the prices are for the other region.

Japan price = $843, japan console prices are usually lower than the US
Euro price = $882
British price = $916


Which is precisely why I can only see this selling in this US. In Europe and UK it's way too expensive.

kitler53

#47
Sep 11, 2024, 01:00 PM
As always,.. europe prices contain VAT and US prices do not.   Sales tax is around 10% on average (12% for me) so the US price is actually ~$770. 
         

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Horizon

#48
Sep 11, 2024, 01:46 PM
Quote from: kitler53 on Sep 11, 2024, 01:00 PMAs always,.. europe prices contain VAT and US prices do not.   Sales tax is around 10% on average (12% for me) so the US price is actually ~$770.

Still $100+ dollars cheaper

BananaKing

#49
Sep 11, 2024, 01:50 PM
The price with tax is 770??? dang that's crazy.

kitler53

#50
Sep 11, 2024, 04:47 PM Last Edit: Sep 11, 2024, 04:50 PM by kitler53
Quote from: BananaKing on Sep 11, 2024, 01:50 PMThe price with tax is 770??? dang that's crazy.
there is no federal sales tax.   somehow that is "unconstitutional".   so at the national level taxes are taken from my income.

...but the constitution doesn't apply directly to state and local governments.   they can tax however they want but in general they are funded via a mixture of income, sales, and property tax.   so basically how you are taxed varies depending on where you live.

I found this on the internet.  I'll assume it is at least close to accurate:
https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/2024-sales-taxes/



My state is 8% but I'm also taxed by my local government which is why my total sales tax is about 12%.  i'm in chicago so my taxes are quite a bit higher than the national average.

also sales tax can vary depending on the item.   like for instance when I lived in Mn there was 0% tax on "essential" items (clothes and groceries mostly) but "luxury" items were taxed at something like 150% the tax rate for "standard" items.   i might be wrong but i believe consoles counted as a luxury.   tobacco in particular is generally taxed at a high rate.   


anyways.  the point is this.   many times a year i see people making a direct comparison between US and European items using currency conversion completely ignoring that it is an apples to oranges comparison.   in general,.. European taxes are much higher than US taxes but in the US you can't just look at the list price.  you have to do a bit of math in your head to figure out how much you're actually going to pay.


...and don't immediately turn around and complain about your high tax rates.   you guys get health care.   i have to pay at least $10,000 a year for health insurance.   it's more if i actually go to the doctor or need medicine.
         

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BananaKing

#51
Sep 11, 2024, 05:20 PM
Quote from: kitler53 on Sep 11, 2024, 04:47 PMthere is no federal sales tax.   somehow that is "unconstitutional".   so at the national level taxes are taken from my income.

...but the constitution doesn't apply directly to state and local governments.   they can tax however they want but in general they are funded via a mixture of income, sales, and property tax.   so basically how you are taxed varies depending on where you live.

I found this on the internet.  I'll assume it is at least close to accurate:
https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/2024-sales-taxes/



My state is 8% but I'm also taxed by my local government which is why my total sales tax is about 12%.  i'm in chicago so my taxes are quite a bit higher than the national average.

also sales tax can vary depending on the item.   like for instance when I lived in Mn there was 0% tax on "essential" items (clothes and groceries mostly) but "luxury" items were taxed at something like 150% the tax rate for "standard" items.   i might be wrong but i believe consoles counted as a luxury.   tobacco in particular is generally taxed at a high rate.  


anyways.  the point is this.   many times a year i see people making a direct comparison between US and European items using currency conversion completely ignoring that it is an apples to oranges comparison.   in general,.. European taxes are much higher than US taxes but in the US you can't just look at the list price.  you have to do a bit of math in your head to figure out how much you're actually going to pay.


...and don't immediately turn around and complain about your high tax rates.   you guys get health care.   i have to pay at least $10,000 a year for health insurance.   it's more if i actually go to the doctor or need medicine.
I'm not in Europe anymore I'm in the UAE. I have zero tax on my salary... It's fudgy amazing.

Legend

#52
Sep 12, 2024, 05:30 AM

kitler53

#53
Sep 12, 2024, 12:53 PM
hands down,.. ps5 pro.   

..but to be fair if i had a choice between nothing and 700 arizonas i'd pick nothing.   that stuff is nasty.
         

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the-pi-guy

#54
Sep 12, 2024, 11:05 PM


Richard Leadbetter compares the PS5 Pro to the RTX 4070.

the-pi-guy

#55
Sep 12, 2024, 11:27 PM

the-pi-guy

#56
Sep 12, 2024, 11:31 PM Last Edit: Sep 12, 2024, 11:34 PM by the-pi-guy

Dr. Pezus

#57
Sep 13, 2024, 12:12 AM
Image quality was awful in ff7r?

Legend

#58
Sep 13, 2024, 03:56 AM
Here comes AI to save the day  8)

Legend

#59
Sep 13, 2024, 03:57 AM
I really can't wait for a DLSS/PSSR version that is trained not only to increase resolution but to make games on low graphics look like games on high graphics. That'll be the day.
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