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Xevross

Mail in vote definitely swung things however when you said that Pez we were talking about NC and Florida where mail in vote came in first, we hadn't even seen the midwest yet.

Everything is happening as expected, except Trump has outperformed his polls pretty uniformly across the board once again.

kitler53

Mail in vote definitely swung things however when you said that Pez we were talking about NC and Florida where mail in vote came in first, we hadn't even seen the midwest yet.

Everything is happening as expected, except Trump has outperformed his polls pretty uniformly across the board once again.
i just don't get how soo many american can vote for that garbage.

biden is screwed.  with mcconnel at the head of his senate majority he will resume is obstructionism.   nothing, not one god dang thing, will pass in the next 2 years.   if clarence tomas were to die in march 2021 mcconnel would hold his seat vacant for 4 years...


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Dr. Pezus

Mail in vote definitely swung things however when you said that Pez we were talking about NC and Florida where mail in vote came in first, we hadn't even seen the midwest yet.

Everything is happening as expected, except Trump has outperformed his polls pretty uniformly across the board once again.
Oh I just meant in general

the-pi-guy

i just don't get how soo many american can vote for that garbage.
Huge amounts of propaganda and fear. 

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biden is screwed.  with mcconnel at the head of his senate majority he will resume is obstructionism.   nothing, not one god dang thing, will pass in the next 2 years.   if clarence tomas were to die in march 2021 mcconnel would hold his seat vacant for 4 years...
We are screwed domestically. 

But Biden winning still has a lot of benefits:
- Coronavirus task force
- CDC
- Paris Accord


kitler53

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/04/mitch-mcconnells-senate-will-be-where-biden-presidency-goes-die/


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Mitch McConnell's Senate might be where the Biden presidency goes to die

It now looks likely that on Jan. 20 of next year, Legend Biden will become president of the United States. And after the inaugural balls are over that evening, he will take off his tuxedo, put on a scratchy jumpsuit and check into a prison cell whose keys are held by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.).

For months, we've been contemplating a world in which Biden wins the White House and Democrats narrowly take control of the Senate. We asked ourselves if they should get rid of the filibuster (yes, they should) or grant statehood to the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico (also yes).

But we didn't spend nearly enough time contemplating what it now looks like will be the reality: a Democratic president and a Republican Senate.

We've seen this before, most recently in the last two years of Barack Obama's second term. But this will be far, far worse than it was then. We're about to witness something unprecedented in American history.

In 2014, McConnell became majority leader after Obama had already achieved most of his major legislative goals, including passing the Affordable Care Act. But now he has a chance to sabotage a Democratic president right from the start. Just as important, he knows that no matter how far he goes, the Republican Party is likely to pay only a small political price. What they get in return will be worth every penny and more.

As of now, Democrats lost one Senate seat and gained two, giving them 48. While it's theoretically possible for them to get to 50 given the races where votes are still being counted, it looks extremely unlikely. Which means McConnell will remain as majority leader.

What does that mean? For starters, you can take all those meticulously prepared policy plans Biden and his team devised during the campaign and toss them in the trash. There will be no expansion of health coverage, no aggressive legislation to address climate change, no move toward universal child care, no increase in the minimum wage, no new Voting Rights Act and no infrastructure spending. None of it.

Nor will there be a new stimulus bill to help the economy recover from the pandemic, since McConnell knows that Biden will be blamed if the economy continues to struggle. At most -- and even this is no guarantee -- McConnell may allow continuing resolutions that keep the government open at its current funding levels. There will be no other significant legislation as long as Republicans retain control.

That's just the beginning. McConnell now clearly believes that conservative domination of the courts is his most lasting legacy. Between now and January, during Trump's lame duck period, McConnell and Judiciary Committee Chair Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) will run a conveyor belt to confirm judges to every last open seat at every level.
And then the confirmation process will simply shut down. Forget about filling a Supreme Court vacancy if one occurs; McConnell won't permit Biden to fill any judicial vacancy. Not one.

"Oh, come on," you might be saying. "He'd never go that far." You don't think so? Just wait.

We're not done. The president gets to fill about 4,000 positions throughout the executive branch, and a remarkable 1,200 of those require confirmation by the Senate. What if McConnell and the Republicans just decided to confirm none of Biden's appointments? No secretary of the Treasury, no EPA administrator, no assistant secretary of the Interior for Land and Minerals Management -- none of them. We've already got all those bureaucrats, Republicans will say, why do we need to keep adding more?
Or at the very least, they'll tell Biden: You can have a secretary of State if you really want one. But we get to tell you who it can and can't be. First rule: It has to be a Republican. Take it or leave it.

Such a comprehensive stonewall would be unprecedented in American history. But McConnell has shown not just a willingness but an eagerness to violate any norm or rule if it serves his party's purposes and he thinks he can get away with it. He'll come up with some ludicrous justification ("No president whose election was decided when it was 52 degrees in Washington in a year ending in zero has ever had his Cabinet confirmed!"), then every Republican will dutifully repeat it, and eventually Democrats will stop complaining, because what are you gonna do?

Biden's presidency would then limp along pathetically until the midterm elections in 2022, when there would be at least a glimmer of hope. More Republican Senate seats will be up that year; I count six that could be vulnerable, especially in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.

But midterm elections usually favor the opposition party. Are Democratic voters going to turn out in droves to help a president who has been unable to deliver on any of his promises?

Of course, this all depends on every Republican senator going along with McConnell's plan for the Mother of All Stonewalls. Which they will. They've shown again and again that they don't care what norms are violated -- if they can do it, they will do it. Just ask Justice Amy Coney Barrett.

Then in four years, Republicans will say, "Look what a failure President Biden has been! Democrats can't get anything done!

I wish I could say that the voters will rise up in outrage and cast them out. But right now it's hard to feel optimistic.
so unfortunately true.


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Dr. Pezus

At least Biden is winning

Or, more accurately, Trump is losing

Xevross


kitler53

At least Biden is winning

Or, more accurately, Trump is losing
i'm starting to worry about nevada.  it is getting really close. 


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Xevross

i'm starting to worry about nevada.  it is getting really close.
It's been 8k lead since they finished all the in person votes. All that's left is later arriving mail-in which should still be Biden favoured.

Anyway, Nevada doesn't matter since Biden is looking to win Pennsylvania comfortably.

the-pi-guy


Xevross



Biden has won.

Dr. Pezus



Biden has won.
The world won

kitler53



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kitler53

for fudges sake.  scorched earth here we come..

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-Legend-biden-donald-trump-elections-c809d17b5cd34048e1a5e9bbb4b73cb7


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"We all know why Legend Biden is rushing to falsely pose as the winner, and why his media allies are trying so hard to help him: they don't want the truth to be exposed. The simple fact is this election is far from over. Legend Biden has not been certified as the winner of any states, let alone any of the highly contested states headed for mandatory recounts, or states where our campaign has valid and legitimate legal challenges that could determine the ultimate victor. In Pennsylvania, for example, our legal observers were not permitted meaningful access to watch the counting process. Legal votes decide who is president, not the news media.

"Beginning Monday, our campaign will start prosecuting our case in court to ensure election laws are fully upheld and the rightful winner is seated. The American People are entitled to an honest election: that means counting all legal ballots, and not counting any illegal ballots. This is the only way to ensure the public has full confidence in our election. It remains shocking that the Biden campaign refuses to agree with this basic principle and wants ballots counted even if they are fraudulent, manufactured, or cast by ineligible or deceased voters. Only a party engaged in wrongdoing would unlawfully keep observers out of the count room - and then fight in court to block their access.

"So what is Biden hiding? I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve and that Democracy demands."


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