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Release Date :December 8, 2021
Platforms : PC, Xbox One, Xbox Series
Developer : 343
Publisher : Xbox Game Studio
I've entered media blackout. Skipping this trailer.
Hehe, you stole the format too. ;D
Hehe, you stole the format too. ;D
Copy and paste heck yeah!
trailer was bad imo.
i think halo will serve well as the poster child for how open worlds can make games worse not better. i'm not entirely shitting on open worlds, they have there place. ...but halo has been more of an "uncharted" game to date and its going to loose a lot of those carefully crated cinematic set-piece gaming moments. this game is looking real flat and clearly, imo, open world is to blame. open world rally works better with a game focused on explorartion.
Shall we throw in the metacritic betting?
Shall we throw in the metacritic betting?
Still has over a month to go but sure? You seem to have been pretty good at organizing them as of late.
trailer was bad imo.
i think halo will serve well as the poster child for how open worlds can make games worse not better. i'm not entirely shitting on open worlds, they have there place. ...but halo has been more of an "uncharted" game to date and its going to loose a lot of those carefully crated cinematic set-piece gaming moments. this game is looking real flat and clearly, imo, open world is to blame. open world rally works better with a game focused on exploration.
I think Gears 5 had similar complaints with a few open sections so it's kinda silly but not too surprising that 343 is doing the same thing here.
Halo has traditionally had very large combat arenas but they have also had really good flow. So many open worlds just feel aimless with random targets on a map.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/gameinformer-first-look-at-halo-infinites-opening-level-halo-infinite-exclusive-coverage-trailer.512979/
I think it's about time for me to start my Halo marathon. Halo 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. No reach or odst because they are dlc outside gamepass. (although maybe I'll pull out my discs and try to play them)
Started halo ce on the 20th anni. Got a trophy for it.
Level design is so so so bad. The rooms just keep on repeating. There are arrows on the floor to keep you from getting lost.
Oh golly g I didn't think it could get any worse, but then the game had me go backwards through the whole area!
Finished the whole game and although it was very dated, it got me hyped for Infinite.
Speaking of infinite, the general impression from what I gathered is that the multiplayer is great fun but has significant issues with microtransactions, this being one example.
Gears 5 tried selling individual weapon skins for $5 each and there was so much anger they had to change their whole system. Today 343i is selling a single gun skin for $10. : halo (https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/qx33dq/gears_5_tried_selling_individual_weapon_skins_for/)
Metacritic (http://"https://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-series-x/halo-infinite")
Same rules as the GOW thread. (http://vizioneck.com/forum/index.php?topic=6155.0) Give a high, medium, and low prediction.
IE you expect it to get a 95 so you set that as your middle. Then you set 97 as your high because you don't think the game has a good chance of scoring above that. Then you set 88 as your low because you don't expect the game to score lower than that.
RESULTS WILL NOW BE SCORED SO THAT AN OVERALL WINNER CAN BE DETERMINED AT THE END OF THE YEAR. IF YOU HAVE THE CLOSEST PREDICTION, YOU EARN POINTS: SCORE +=100-(high prediction-low prediction)*2. IF THE FINAL MC FALLS OUTSIDE YOUR HIGH AND LOW PREDICTIONS, YOU LOSE POINTS: SCORE -=50.
Review embargo ends when the countdown ends. Feel free to post predictions and edit them up till that time.
100:
99:
Halo Infinite Campaign Co-op and Forge Mode Releases Pushed Back - IGN (https://www.ign.com/articles/halo-infinite-campaign-co-op-forge-mode-delay)
Co-op campaign and forge mode delayed.
Halo Infinite Campaign Co-op and Forge Mode Releases Pushed Back - IGN (https://www.ign.com/articles/halo-infinite-campaign-co-op-forge-mode-delay)
Co-op campaign and forge mode delayed.
The cracks are starting to show again. I could see the metacritic going so many different ways at the moment.
The good:
Halo is Fun
The bad:
Melee is broken
Grapple makes hijacking near pointless
Radar is near useless
Lots of funny spawn glitches
Lots of content missing at launch
Progression and microtransactions are some of the worst seen in cosmetic only games
If this is their approach to multiplayer, I'm really losing confidence in the campaign. This is gonna be another Halo 4 or Halo 5 isn't it?
Also I've started my playthrough of Halo 2. It took a sec for me to remember the opening so I think I'm gonna have a lot of fun playing it almost fresh.
by the end of the gen they'll probably have it fixed up. treat this like an early beta access..
I'm going to say:
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343 doesn't really have the best track record for Halo. I have no context for why that is, but critically they're not doing as well.
The Master Chief collection was released with a fair number of issues I guess.
I can't say for sure, but I feel like they have to be one of the worst managed Microsoft studios.
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Halo 4: 87, Halo MCC: 85, Halo 5: 84.
Every game has scored lower than the last. So Infinite being below 84 makes sense. At the same time though, I have zero faith in review scores being traditional.
Will the game get a lower score because it's $60 with no multiplayer? Or will they be reviewed as one?
Will reviewers learn from mcc and be more critical? Or will Halo's bad history push an inflated score when it exceeds low expectations?
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I have no hope for this game, tbh.
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there's something to be said about rocket leagues system of choosing a msg from a pick list.
I mean, you get an occasional toxic PC guy but a vast majority is reasonable and game centric.
there's something to be said about rocket leagues system of choosing a msg from a pick list.
I mean, you get an occasional toxic PC guy but a vast majority is reasonable and game centric.
You can still write your own message on console bruh
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I have no hope for this game, tbh.
83 high is risky!!!
I feel my 81 is too harsh unless it has lots of bugs.
83 high is risky!!!
I feel my 81 is too harsh unless it has lots of bugs.
Heh. I like to live dangerously. Not seeing anything about this one that looks great. Hope i'm wrong though.
Heh. I like to live dangerously. Not seeing anything about this one that looks great. Hope i'm wrong though.
Me too. I'm in the middle of replaying Halo 2 and it's just on another level. Such a cool alien universe with fun levels. Really nothing else like it. I'd love for Halo Infinite to recapture a bit of that but I worry it'll just be generic "fear me cause I'm the bad guy" stuff.
I'm excited for the potential of the open world since exploring a Halo ring is hype but I don't have confidence in them pulling it off.
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Finished Halo 2. What a great great game.
Makes Halo 5 look so stupid. 343 put in 2 new cutscenes to tease Halo 5 and they just feel like a joke. No one cares about that plot.
Arby works because he has a very important arc and he offers something new. Locke however is just another human that does exactly what Masterchief does.
I've yet to reach 4 or 5 so maybe I'll find other things to love, but yeah. Not hyping me for infinite lol.
Finished Halo 3. It's a much bigger adventure with some real epic moments, but it loses some of the deeper moments compared to Halo 2. I'd rank it lower overall but not by much.
Had some pretty poor writing for a few lines haha.
"They out number us 3 to 1!"
"Good, then it'll be an even fight."
Was very amusing remembering some things but not remembering others. All in all I think I actually remembered Halo 2 better.
Halo 4 glitched so I need to restart a mission. There is supposed to be an alien ship but it never loaded, so the marines keep jumping over a mountain lol.
Also the drop in quality from 3 to 4 is super noticeable. Very jarring going from 3 to 4. The plot is confusing and I think it's contradicting the previous games. IDK, this is my first time playing past the beginning.
Also randomly the forum has 117 log messages right now. Coincidence!?
looked pretty meh to me.
visually it looks very last gen. story looks bad. no opinion on gameplay.
Finished Halo 4. It's just so bad at times while being great at other times. That applies to the story, the gameplay, the environments, etc. Really all over the place. If this is considered the good campaign out of 343's work, oh boy Halo 5 will be interesting.
I went out of my way to find every terminal. The levels just felt completely different to how Bungie did stuff and it made the game feel more generic. Felt inspired by Uncharted and cinematic linear trends.
343's version of the forerunners is pure trash and I wish it never happened lol. Halo 2 went into the inner workings of the covenant and showed cool alien stuff. Halo 4 went into the inner workings of the forerunners and showed marriage issues.
Was also really funny seeing the ending quote from 343. Hasn't aged well.
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I haven't played any of the Halo games.
I do have the MCC on Steam, but alas my PC can't play any of them...
My GPU right now is like a 1/3rd of what they recommend for Halo 1. :-[
The GPU market sucks so bad right now.
This isn't correct but it's way too funny not to share haha: To everyone complaining about the graphics (https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/hx1hlk/to_everyone_complaining_about_the_graphics/)
Halo 5 is so bad. I'm able to find the fun but nothing is great like Halo 4.
Story is trash and I hate having the squads. This game could have been ok if it was just Locke and his team as a full spinoff. They are fine to play as and have some development.
I also think 343 needs to toss the books aside and consider them non relevant to the games. Most players don't know about them and it often sucks in video game form.
The graphics are also distractingly bad at times. Enemies have Spiderverse style animations if they are more than a few feet away from you.
The gameplay is poor. Melee breaks a lot, the team is super random with revives, and the ai has the worst driving skills in the series. Ckeckpoints often don't work because a random enemy is hiding.
I wish I was still playing Halo 4 lol.
Halo 5 is so bad. I'm able to find the fun but nothing is great like Halo 4.
Story is trash and I hate having the squads. This game could have been ok if it was just Locke and his team as a full spinoff. They are fine to play as and have some development.
I also think 343 needs to toss the books aside and consider them non relevant to the games. Most players don't know about them and it often sucks in video game form.
The graphics are also distractingly bad at times. Enemies have Spiderverse style animations if they are more than a few feet away from you.
The gameplay is poor. Melee breaks a lot, the team is super random with revives, and the ai has the worst driving skills in the series. Ckeckpoints often don't work because a random enemy is hiding.
I wish I was still playing Halo 4 lol.
When Infinite?
When Infinite?
I should finish 5 today or tomorrow. Then a good few days of break till Infinite on the 8th.
H2>H3>>H4>H1>>H5
I hope Infinite can fit between 3 and 4 in my ranking but I think between 1 and 5 is a safer bet. I can't see it being worse than 5, so I might need to update my meta prediction.
When reviews?
Oh god I forgot Halo 5 ended on a cliff hanger. Super glad it seems like the poor reception killed their plans for this story arc.
I really hope infinite's campaign is just as bad as 5.
..this is exactly why bluepoint should make Bloodborne 2. no developer should make a sequel to another developers masterpieces.
AKA the multiplayer has a chance to be 100% broken with players not noticing.
I really hope infinite's campaign is just as bad as 5.
..this is exactly why bluepoint should make Bloodborne 2. no developer should make a sequel to another developers masterpieces.
Well after playing the whole franchise I'm definitely worried about how they'll pull off the open world. If Infinite sucks I imagine it'll be from the world being too boring, but there's always a chance they'll do more character assassination lol.
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I'm sandwiched between Pi and pezus but I think I'm keeping this. I rewatched the first three trailers before my media blackout and nothing looks like 343 has properly learned from their mistakes.
Also opencritic and metacritic are treating multiplayer and campaign as a single product. A few multiplayer reviews are already up.
wrong move, imo, to treat them as the same game.
the reviews for the campaign should only include the campaign since that's all you are buying. reviews should be used for to inform purchase decisions.
if they we're both f2p it would be fine to group them.
wrong move, imo, to treat them as the same game.
the reviews for the campaign should only include the campaign since that's all you are buying. reviews should be used for to inform purchase decisions.
if they we're both f2p it would be fine to group them.
I agree. They are completely different, and they didn't even have the same launch date either. This will help the single player score better
The online community is kinda imploding right now, with this being an example: Longer Message From Ske7ch : halo (https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/r8y7md/longer_message_from_ske7ch/)
I think the early multiplayer release was a poor decision in hindsight. There was so much hype in the beginning but now the official launch day will need to win back the community. And on that note, the review embargo is supposedly set for 3 AM eastern on Monday.
I agree. They are completely different, and they didn't even have the same launch date either. This will help the single player score better
Technically the current multiplayer is still in beta with the official launch coinciding with the campaign, but yeah ideally the campaign should be scored as a standalone $60 game. It's kinda like how TLOU2 lost multiplayer.
I feel like we are out of "hype mode" now. can we change the title to: "343 are GaaSlighting us"
I feel like we are out of "hype mode" now. can we change the title to: "343 are GaaSlighting us"
That's too clever to skip so sure.
I'll change the title again once reviews come out. Lots of game quotes could fit perfectly if it does bad.
That's too clever to skip so sure.
I'll change the title again once reviews come out. Lots of game quotes could fit perfectly if it does bad.
i thought so. xD
2 hours till reviews!
I was listening to a Halo 4 song on repeat and it was making me nervous lol. I really just hope the reviews are somewhat accurate. Ideally the game is great and reviews great but Infinite has been so polarizing.
edt:
This was the song
From the reviews I skimmed, looks to be the later.
Campaign is seemingly not good outside of being built off good shooting mechanics.
87 on meta at the moment. I doubt it holds, but currently I'm the only one that was in range lol. See yall in the morning.
If it holds then I'll be pleasantly surprised
If it holds then I'll be pleasantly surprised
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might have to subscribe to game pass PC to play this if it turns out decent. I'm assuming its gonna be on gamepass PC and not just the console version
I'll mostly be avoiding Halo discussion now. Just 2 days to go.
i listend to (while working) half of that DF analysis.
...i got to say, i'm fudgy tired of these kinds of analysis that treat realism as the only form of beauty. i soo don't care about these "visual nitpicks".
i listend to (while working) half of that DF analysis.
...i got to say, i'm fudgy tired of these kinds of analysis that treat realism as the only form of beauty. i soo don't care about these "visual nitpicks".
Well that's the whole point of digital foundry. They just break down the technical side of the game.
Well that's the whole point of digital foundry. They just break down the technical side of the game.
i know. it's my fault for watching i guess. i just think it's bad for gaming that soo many gamers eat this shame up.
i know. it's my fault for watching i guess. i just think it's bad for gaming that soo many gamers eat this shame up.
I can agree with that. It's good content that should exist but way too many people forget it's a peek behind the curtain and not how games are played.
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Has dropped to 86. Is it premature to declare you the winner haha?
Also am I the only one planning to play this?
edt: wait wtf there isn't a midnight release?!? It doesn't unlock until 10 AM for the west coast!?
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I might get gamepass ultimate to play it and some other games.
Should i just not worry about playing 4 and 5 before playing and just kinda read up on whats going on?
I might get gamepass ultimate to play it and some other games.
Should i just not worry about playing 4 and 5 before playing and just kinda read up on whats going on?
Have you played any Halo games?
Definitely either play them or read a very detailed summary of 4 and 5. I played all of them back to back and yet 4 and 5 were still confusing with how they randomly introduced stuff.
Have you played any Halo games?
Definitely either play them or read a very detailed summary of 4 and 5. I played all of them back to back and yet 4 and 5 were still confusing with how they randomly introduced stuff.
i played 1 to 3 back when MCC came out and started 4 but never finished. If they are on game pass i'll play them.
Updated the title. Will put back in the review scores if they change.
Also there is no preload.
i played 1 to 3 back when MCC came out and started 4 but never finished. If they are on game pass i'll play them.
Everything but ODST and Reach is on gamepass. Better use some speedrunning strats at this point!
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Bloomberg - Are you a robot? (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-12-08/how-microsoft-s-halo-infinite-went-from-disaster-to-triumph)
Took some time for the game to show an update, but now I'm in. 4 minutes to download. Let's go!
Cool so far. Map looks really small and boring but the menu teases some fun stuff.
Also I'm still super early but it seems they might be acting like Halo 5 didn't exist.
It feels a lot like assassin's creed. I'm enjoying it a fair amount but it's not like past Halos.
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I feel like this story comes out a lot when a game has troubled development.
"It was the engine".
Those suck.
They offer nothing in the campaign and aren't even in fun places.
Infinite has really poor exploration.
Halo lost a lot by going open world, but it's still pretty good.
Also this might be the biggest shakeup in a AAA series ever. It'd be like if Hyrule Warriors was the main Zelda game.
One thing I love is that the gameplay really makes you feel like the hero. It echos back to Bungie's games where one person can change the tide of war. The plot isn't as good about this.
Early game basic spoilers, first couple hours:
Had my first crash.
Halo lost a lot by going open world, but it's still pretty good.
Also this might be the biggest shakeup in a AAA series ever. It'd be like if Hyrule Warriors was the main Zelda game.
One thing I love is that the gameplay really makes you feel like the hero. It echos back to Bungie's games where one person can change the tide of war. The plot isn't as good about this.
Early game basic spoilers, first couple hours:
Had my first crash.
epic turn around.
epic turn around.
Still only one crash, but it keeps getting really close.
I have recorded so many bug videos. To be clear it's not super bad, but the game could use a few more updates. Marines have really funny ai.
Still only one crash, but it keeps getting really close.
I have recorded so many bug videos. To be clear it's not super bad, but the game could use a few more updates. Marines have really funny ai.
jokes on you. you've been desynched from the server and you're save file will be deleted if you turn your console off.
jokes on you. you've been desynched from the server and you're save file will be deleted if you turn your console off.
What do you mean joke?
Today I've been getting achievements for "do first X" since apparently every time I did them yesterday didn't count. Wonder what else didn't get saved.
Also the steam chart is interesting. Seems multiplayer is way more popular than the campaign. Very small bump for launch day: Halo Infinite - Steam Charts (https://steamcharts.com/app/1240440)
What do you mean joke?
Today I've been getting achievements for "do first X" since apparently every time I did them yesterday didn't count. Wonder what else didn't get saved.
Also the steam chart is interesting. Seems multiplayer is way more popular than the campaign. Very small bump for launch day: Halo Infinite - Steam Charts (https://steamcharts.com/app/1240440)
multiplayer is free. campaign costs money. seems expected to me.
If it doesn't have any tricks left, I think it's about a 7/10 at most.
Like Halo 4 it has a mix of both great things and trash things. Biggest issue imo is that there is so much repitition. It feels like how a small team would need to handle a game like this.
Also their solution to keep tanks out of combat was to make driving them a pain. Plus they have a lot of "titanium" trees.
Imagine Death Stranding or MGSV with no cutscenes and just their first maps. I enjoy playing it but it feels like a grind.
If it doesn't have any tricks left, I think it's about a 7/10 at most.
Like Halo 4 it has a mix of both great things and trash things. Biggest issue imo is that there is so much repitition. It feels like how a small team would need to handle a game like this.
Also their solution to keep tanks out of combat was to make driving them a pain. Plus they have a lot of "titanium" trees.
Imagine Death Stranding or MGSV with no cutscenes and just their first maps. I enjoy playing it but it feels like a grind.
typical open world repetition? go here and kill XX enemies. fetch this item. that kind of crud?
I am done.
Great foundation in many ways, but this is a ~3 game stretched into a ~30 game. For the first time though I'm looking forward to the next Halo from 343. It just needs to be improved and expanded, unlike 4 and 5 which sent them back to the drawing board.
Will post spoiler stuff later.
typical open world repetition? go here and kill XX enemies. fetch this item. that kind of crud?
Yeah gameplay repeats but the worst is that it all looks and feels the same.
The entire game is homogenous. The E3 gameplay from 2020 was the most unique part lol.
This was my first Forerunner Artifact, took me a second to realise this *WASN'T* supposed to happen : XboxSeriesX (https://v.redd.it/tzz9zyyfbq481)
Gonna do a full breakdown without spoilers.
The Amazing:
-Great job moving on from Halo 5. They looped everything around to make it work shockingly well, although fans of Halo 5 are pretty upset.
The Good:
-Combat is really fun.
-Grapple is great. Sometimes is finnicky and magically stops working when the devs don't want you doing something.
-It really feels like you're fighting a war, and that Chief is a hero. Most map objectives are fun and feel like you're building towards a bigger goal. Large numbers of marines can dynamically group up.
-Great lighting, and great visuals at times. Brutes look really bad.
-Great acting, again outside of the brutes. Even behind his helmet Chief was able to deliver a lot of emotion. NPCs have great banter during gameplay.
-The ring felt believable, outside of all the dumb hexagons and floating islands. Stars realistically rotate in the sky as the ring produces spin gravity. Native wild life is fun to see.
-Ammo crates allow you to keep rare weapons longer, making fights feel more unique.
-Marines don't easily die from cars flipping.
-One boss is fun to fight.
-343 didn't assassinate anyone's character.
The Bad:
-Less enemy variety than Halo 2, 3, 4, and 5.
-Marines have bad ai. They dive in front of vehicles and cannot drive their own.
-Players are encouraged to use the same 2 guns over and over. Fewer reasons to experiment or mix it up.
-So many audio logs and most are boring.
-Abilities outside of the grapple hook seem forced.
-The Far Cry like open world and the linear main story missions feel like 2 separate games. Their stories don't work together and they play differently.
-Most boss fights just lock you in a small room and force you to shoot a bullet sponge.
-The cast is too small. Even Halo Combat Evolved had more.
The Horrible:
-Lack of "stuff" in the story.
-Lack of variety in the world and gameplay.
-Scorpion driving mechanics.
There is a reason every trailer for this game shows the same things. There literally isn't more.
I enjoyed the open world gameplay and I enjoyed the voice acting, but my opinion on the game is really souring. I think this one will end up with a similar reputation as Halo 4's campaign. Some will view it as their favorite game and some will view it as trash. I think there is a legit possibility that the negativity will be strong enough that once again 343 has to rethink the next game.
The Bad:
-Less enemy variety than Halo 2, 3, 4, and 5.
-The cast is too small. Even Halo Combat Evolved had more.
There is a reason every trailer for this game shows the same things. There literally isn't more.
Making me wonder what they've been doing, and what state would this game have launched in, a year ago.
Kind of seems like they've mostly been working on MCC the past 6 years.
-Grapple is great. Sometimes is finnicky and magically stops working when the devs don't want you doing something.
to me that's basically an unforgivable sin in games.
i just wrapped up ni no kuni 2 and you can jump except in a couple spots where they don't want you to jump to the next platform. its like an invisible wall excpet sooooo much worse. with an invisible wall you can figure it out reasonably quickly. when abilities are locked at random locations you can spend 5 min thinking you are to blame for not doing it right before you finally conceed the ability is locked.
horrible game design.
Making me wonder what they've been doing, and what state would this game have launched in, a year ago.
Kind of seems like they've mostly been working on MCC the past 6 years.
I don't think anything major changed in the last year. The game was definitely finished and could have came out back then, but probably would have had sucky gameplay too. For example the final director that came on is the reason marines are fun. Previously they'd be hard coded to stay wherever they spawned.
I think a huge amount of work went into making Halo open world. I'd imagine that's the big reason it took so long. Previous games have had massive areas but they never had to deal with open world streaming, dynamic check points, open world saving, open world ai, etc. If they used Unreal they probably could have saved years in hindsight. They also went through a few iterations for the story I'd bet. Could have easily had more characters and more content that was cut yet still used dev resources.
I wish there was more variety for inside levels. It's not an exaggeration to say Skyrim's dungeons are better at times. I imagine if they had another year those would have been the biggest focus.
to me that's basically an unforgivable sin in games.
i just wrapped up ni no kuni 2 and you can jump except in a couple spots where they don't want you to jump to the next platform. its like an invisible wall excpet sooooo much worse. with an invisible wall you can figure it out reasonably quickly. when abilities are locked at random locations you can spend 5 min thinking you are to blame for not doing it right before you finally conceed the ability is locked.
horrible game design.
Once it was because I was in a room with powerful enemies and they didn't want me in the ceiling. They should have just not had a spot up there to crouch on.
Other time was with jumping from map section to map section. This was really really stupid since as far as I can tell, the devs wanted you to grapple to one specific island. Maybe I just didn't try it enough; I'll have to wait for speedruns.
@nnodley Have you played it?
Also it's interesting seeing opinions online. There is a pretty strong consensus that the gunplay and acting are good while the story and repetitiveness are bad. Depending on how people personally value things, they'll of course give the game a different overall rating.
There are two main defenses though and they are very amusing. Some people defend the game's issues by saying the first Halo had the same issues. First off of course standards have changed in 20 years. Secondly, it's not even true. Halo Combat Evolved has more unique content than Infinite. Combat Evolved even has a small open world section on an island.
The other defense is that this game is just the foundation for future dlc/sequels and expecting it to be great is asking too much. I get that kinda, they really screwed themselves over hyping this as the biggest Halo ever, but imo 343 should have pulled a ground zeroes and built it that way. Sell it for $30 and remove all the padding so it's a ~3 hour game, and then be open that it's just a primer.
I'm pretty frustrated with the fanboys because a sequel with the correct improvements could be all around amazing, but I fear this will just push 343's execs to say "this is fine" and the next decade of Halo will be a repetitive grind.
I heard the game cost $500m, and that gamepass can sustain a $500m game.
@nnodley
Have you played it?
Also it's interesting seeing opinions online. There is a pretty strong consensus that the gunplay and acting are good while the story and repetitiveness are bad. Depending on how people personally value things, they'll of course give the game a different overall rating.
There are two main defenses though and they are very amusing. Some people defend the game's issues by saying the first Halo had the same issues. First off of course standards have changed in 20 years. Secondly, it's not even true. Halo Combat Evolved has more unique content than Infinite. Combat Evolved even has a small open world section on an island.
The other defense is that this game is just the foundation for future dlc/sequels and expecting it to be great is asking too much. I get that kinda, they really screwed themselves over hyping this as the biggest Halo ever, but imo 343 should have pulled a ground zeroes and built it that way. Sell it for $30 and remove all the padding so it's a ~3 hour game, and then be open that it's just a primer.
I'm pretty frustrated with the fanboys because a sequel with the correct improvements could be all around amazing, but I fear this will just push 343's execs to say "this is fine" and the next decade of Halo will be a repetitive grind.
Not yet. This is my week of crunching a bit and getting a good bit done on some stuff. Then i'm taking all next week off and doing nothing but playing games. heh
I heard the game cost $500m, and that gamepass can sustain a $500m game.
I really hope this game didn't cost anything near that much. Iterating to discover what you want is a huge part of game development but the final product is something a smaller team could replicate in Unreal.
If the opening cutscene and first mission are excluded, it's a relatively microscopic amount of work. Like I skimmed through this video to see some things again and it's shocking. I need someone to break open the pc version to get detailed asset counts because this feels like the smallest AAA game I've ever played. NPC dialogue is one of the only non gunplay elements that felt far beyond minimum viable product.
Not yet. This is my week of crunching a bit and getting a good bit done on some stuff. Then i'm taking all next week off and doing nothing but playing games. heh
I look forward to your impressions. This is the most torn I've been on a game in a long time. I loved playing it and in isolation most moments are amazing imo, but it's just the same exact thing repeating over and over and over. As a cohesive whole I legit hate it even though I'm tempted to jump back in lol.
Multiplayer lead at 343 is leaving. Never played infinite's multiplayer but outside of glitches and monetization and progression I think people like it a lot.
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I'm not sure if this is a Halo Infinite parody post since it has stuff like:
"Everything builds. Everything matters. Why are there three buttons? Because that's been a theme for Halo the entire time. It's the same as the Pillar of Autumn. It's a throwback. It's nostalgic."
If it's honest though then it's cool that the story resonated with some people. I could certainly see the general opinion of Infinite improving once all its major faults are old news.
BREAKING HALO NEWS is trending on twitter because of this, but I can't tell if it's mostly from people believing it or making fun of it.
I mean that wouldn't be surprising though. 343 just hasn't lived up to early halo
I mean that wouldn't be surprising though. 343 just hasn't lived up to early halo
I mean it's a little surprising they'd get a shot at another game :P
I mean it's a little surprising they'd get a shot at another game :P
Heh that's also true
Wow. Wow. Such an iconic franchise. It's a shame it dying like this. But maybe a break is what it needs. Id let ID take a shot at it. They did a great job bringing Doom back to life.
And this is why I really dislike MS. They managed to kill their best and biggest franchise, while producing nothing to replace it. Look at Nintendo, they managed to take Zelda up to new heights. They managed to expand it to the new gamer audience and now it sells 11 million in 3 days. Sony did the same with GoW. From selling 5 million lifetime to over 20 million.
Halo was doing 14 million back in the 360 days. Imagine if they actually knew how to manage studios and take care of it. But that's MS for you. Buy something good, keep fudgy it up till it dies and then go buy something else
Halo, Skype, Nokia, gears...... CoD?
if ABK goes through I'll have to hope they mismanage CoD to death.
I'll miss blizzards stuff if it does though. well,. I guess not since it will all go exclusive anyways.