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Megathread: Democrats Release Redacted Memo Rebutting Republican Claims of Surveillance Abuse : politics


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Steele Dossier played NO role in opening the Carter Page investigation. They began their investigation prior to even receiving it.

The DOJ did in fact inform the court of the origin of the Steele Dossier.

They accuse Nunes of deliberately misrepresenting the underlying FISA Warrant intelligence.

Four different judge's approved FISA warrants including judge's appointed by Bush and Reagan. Multiple DOJ officials also approved the applications prior to the court even seeing them including Trump appointees Rosenstein and Boente.

They actually started listening to Page after he left Trump campaign so the idea they were watching him to spy on Trump is absurd.

Page has a long history with Russia going back to 2004 and was being actively investigated once before already in 2013. The FBI had even interviewed him in 2016 again prior to receiving the Steele Dossier. The Steele dossier was referenced in the application as corroboration of certain things, and not to independently demonstrate.

A bunch of blacked out additional evidence with a bit in the middle noting Page lied to the HIC in his testimony in 2017 about meeting with Russian officials.

It included the footnote that discusses the Steele dossier source which SPECIFICALLY STATES ..."The FBI speculates the the unidentified U.S. Person was likely looking for information that could be used to discredit Candidate #1's campaign." Candidate 1 is Trump I believe, edit I previously thought Person 1 was Steele, this is the person coordinating with Steele. Steele is Source #1.

DOJ timely informed the court when the FBI fired Steele and why.

The attacks on Bruce Ohr for knowing Steele/and his wife working for Fusion GPS are 100% baseless. He was not involved in the FISA process and disclosed his relationships in November 2016.

Basically Nunes and Gowdy lied whole cloth that the FISA warrant was primarily based on a news article and the Steele Dossier. Those were in fact the least used and most minor pieces of evidence and they picked them out specifically for that reason to discredit the investigation and lied about their use.


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Apr 11, 2018, 12:56 AM Last Edit: Apr 11, 2018, 12:59 AM by the-pi-guy
F.B.I. Raids Office of Trump’s Longtime Lawyer Michael Cohen; Trump Calls It ‘Disgraceful’ - The New York Times


Fact Check: What Mark Zuckerberg Said About Facebook, Privacy and Russia - The New York Times

A live blog of Zuckerberg's testimony.

Zuckerberg testimony: Facebook CEO grilled by Congress over data misuse – as it happened | Technology | The Guardian

Resetera thread with a little summary:
F.B.I. Raids Office, Hotel, and Home of Trump's Longtime Lawyer Cohen. Update: Cohen worried. | ResetEra

 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/09/...gtime-lawyer-michael-cohen.html?smid=pl-share
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The F.B.I. on Monday raided the office of President Trump's longtime personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, seizing records related to several topics including payments to a pornographic-film actress. Federal prosecutors in Manhattan obtained the search warrant after receiving a referral from the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, according to Mr. Cohen's lawyer, who called the search "completely inappropriate and unnecessary." The search does not appear to be directly related to Mr. Mueller's investigation, but likely resulted from information he had uncovered and gave to prosecutors in New York. "Today the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York executed a series of search warrants and seized the privileged communications between my client, Michael Cohen, and his clients," said Stephen Ryan, his lawyer. "I have been advised by federal prosecutors that the New York action is, in part, a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller."Click to expand...
Live stream of Mark Zuckerberg's testimony to Congress (2:15pm ET) | ResetEra

 
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Should start in a few minutes. A few live streaming links:SenateWSJWiredCBS newsVerge - blog updatesLink.
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Zuckerberg will spend two days answering lawmakers' questions about the powerful social network he helped create more than a decade ago, and whether the company is doing enough to protect users' privacy. It's the first time Zuckerberg will personally sit for questions from Congress, instead of sending a deputy.Click to expand...
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Zuckerberg is set to testify in Washington on Tuesday and Wednesday. He'll appear at a joint hearing conducted by the Senate Judiciary and Commerce committees on Tuesday, starting at 2:15 p.m. ET. The Facebook CEO will then testify in front of the House Energy and Commerce Committee on Wednesday, beginning at 10 a.m. ET. The hearings were scheduled to address Facebook's use and protection of user data in the wake of the Cambridge Analytica scandal.Click to expand...
Plus some other news here:

Trump Sought to Fire Mueller in December | ResetEra

 
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In early December, President Trump, furious over news reports about a new round of subpoenas from the office of the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, told advisers in no uncertain terms that Mr. Mueller's investigation had to be shut down. The president's anger was fueled by reports that the subpoenas were for obtaining information about his business dealings with Deutsche Bank, according to interviews with eight White House officials, people close to the president and others familiar with the episode. To Mr. Trump, the subpoenas suggested that Mr. Mueller had expanded the investigation in a way that crossed the "red line" he had set last year in an interview with The New York Times. In the hours that followed Mr. Trump's initial anger over the Deutsche Bank reports, his lawyers and advisers worked quickly to learn about the subpoenas, and ultimately were told by Mr. Mueller's office that the reports were not accurate, leading the president to back down. Mr. Trump's quick conclusion that the erroneous news reports warranted firing Mr. Mueller is also an insight Mr. Trump's state of mind about the special counsel. Despite assurances from leading Republicans like Speaker Paul D. Ryan that the president has not thought about firing Mr. Mueller, the December episode was the second time Mr. Trump is now known to have considered taking that step. The other instance was in June, when the White House counsel, Donald F. McGahn II, threatened to quit unless Mr. Trump stopped trying to get him to fire Mr. Mueller. The December episode, which has never been publicly reported, has new resonance following the disclosure on Monday that F.B.I. agents had carried out search warrants at the office and hotel room of Mr. Trump's personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen. In that action, the Justice Department seems to have walked directly up to -- if not crossed -- Mr. Trump's red line by examining something that seems unrelated to Russia. More: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/us/politics/trump-sought-to-fire-mueller-in-december.htmlClick to expand...
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Wanna know if Cambridge Analytica has your data? You can see it here | ResetEra

 
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I think this interests people. Facebook has made a website that shows of if you or friends of you (and with that, you, too again) were scanned by Cambridge Analytica. Just look up at https://www.facebook.com/help/1873665312923476?ref=shareable That website shows of, in which way your data was collected. I am luckily clean and nobody of my friends had their data stolen, too. Also, there is right now the testification of Mark Zuckerberg going on, you can check it out here:  
Sheriff of America's Deadliest Police Force Caught Admitting Killing Suspects Is 'Better | ResetEra

 
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Sheriff of America's Deadliest Police Force Caught on Camera Admitting Killing Suspects Is 'Better Financially' Title got cut off
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Although Kern County had a population of 875,000 people in 2015, its law enforcement officers were responsible for more deaths than any other county in America that year, according to the Guardian. During that year, Kern County deputies and Bakersfield, Calif., police killed 1.5 people for every 100,000 residents, more than three times the rate of Los Angeles County and 10 times the rate of the New York Police Department in 2015.Click to expand...
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"You know what happens when a guy makes a bad shooting and somebody kills them?" Youngblood explained. "Three million bucks and the family goes away after a long back and forth." "When a deputy shoots someone in the streets, which way do you think is better financially--to cripple them or kill them--for the county?" Youngblood asked. When someone replied, "Kill them," Youngblood responded, "Absolutely. Because if they're crippled we get to take care of them for life. And that cost goes way up."Click to expand...
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the-pi-guy

If you can't see in the mess, this facebook link will show you if any of your information was given to cambridge analytica.  
How can I tell if my information was shared with Cambridge Analytica? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook

Some of wifey's was, but mine was entirely untouched.  

Xevross

Oh I forgot about this thread!

If you can't see in the mess, this facebook link will show you if any of your information was given to cambridge analytica.  
How can I tell if my information was shared with Cambridge Analytica? | Facebook Help Center | Facebook

Some of wifey's was, but mine was entirely untouched.  
Yeah I checked yesterday and they haven't got any of my info, which is nice.

Also I'm very worried for Mueller right now. Trump must be so close to getting him fired.

the-pi-guy

Apr 11, 2018, 02:09 PM Last Edit: Apr 11, 2018, 02:31 PM by the-pi-guy
Speaker Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-election in November - The New York Times

He's not in my district but i wouldnt vote for him anyway, but kind of interesting he isn't running again.  

Oh I forgot about this thread!
Yeah I checked yesterday and they haven't got any of my info, which is nice.

Also I'm very worried for Mueller right now. Trump must be so close to getting him fired.
Bipartisan Senate bill to protect Mueller set for release Wednesday - POLITICO

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Zuckerberg's Senate hearing highlights in 10 minutes


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Zuckerberg's Senate hearing highlights in 10 minutes

lol
Several Conservative lawmakers accused Zuckerberg of conservative censorship.
Even though he was just there to talk about privacy concerns.

the-pi-guy

North Korea drops withdrawal of US forces as condition of denuclearization, Moon says

North Korea is being awfully giving.  

I wonder if something is going on.  

Legend

North Korea drops withdrawal of US forces as condition of denuclearization, Moon says

North Korea is being awfully giving.  

I wonder if something is going on.  
Sounds too good to be true but peace would be really really awesome.

the-pi-guy

Sounds too good to be true
The only way it feels like it'd really make sense to me is:

a.) Things are really bad in NK right now.  With China and everyone else cutting them off, Korea's people might be reaching a breaking point.  Going through with this might extend Un's reign.  

b.)  It's a trap of some sort.  

c.) Kim is scared of escalation, and may think that Trump would be reckless enough to escalate things.


None of them really feel like they make sense though.

Sounds too good to be true but peace would be really really awesome.
It would be amazing.  

I'd feel comfortable saying it would be the biggest world event in my lifetime.  

Xevross

Trump has pulled the US out of the Iran deal and will immediately impose sanctions on them.

What a fudgy disaster. Stupid orange sour apple.

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   North Korea, South Korea plan ‪Pyongyang railway - Business Insider


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In late April, North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and South Korean president Moon Jae-in made a historic deal to end Cold War-era division. The two countries announced that they will pursue signing a peace treaty and work towards "complete denuclearization" of the Korean Peninsula. (R ight now it's uncertain to what degree North Korea plans to get rid of its nukes.)

During the summit, Moon reportedly handed Kim a thumb drive containing a plan to build a massive railway. The preliminary plan envisions a train line that would pass through Seoul to Pyongyang in the North, then moving further on to Kaeseong and Shinuijuin, North Korea.

The ultimate plan, estimated to cost $35 billion, is much more expansive. It calls for another high-speed line from Seoul to Shinuiju via Pyongyang, along with a retrofit of six other railways crossing through North Korea.

the-pi-guy

May 09, 2018, 11:19 PM Last Edit: May 09, 2018, 11:20 PM by the-pi-guy
North Korea frees three US detainees ahead of Trump summit - BBC News

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North Korea has freed three US citizens from prison, according to a tweet from US President Donald Trump.

It is viewed as a goodwill gesture ahead of a historic summit between Mr Trump and North Korea's Kim Jong-un.

Mr Trump said he would greet the men when they return with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who has been in Pyongyang to arrange the planned talks.

Kim Hak-song, Tony Kim and Kim Dong-chul boarded the plane "without assistance", the White House said.

They had been jailed for anti-state activities and placed in labour camps.
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Who are the freed Americans?

Kim Hak-song was held on suspicion of "hostile acts" in May 2017. He had previously described himself as a Christian missionary who intended to start an experimental farm at the Pyongyang University of Science and Technology (PUST)

Tony Kim, also known as Kim Sang-duk, also worked at PUST. He was detained in April 2017 on espionage charges. According to South Korean media, he had been involved in humanitarian work in the North.

Kim Dong-chul, a pastor in his early 60s, was detained in 2015 on spying charges, and was then sentenced to 10 years hard labour.
Kim, Kim and Kim was released by Kim. How wonderful!
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