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Title: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Aug 13, 2018, 10:00 PM
Most of their studios are pretty busy and the rest are probably moving to PS5. So unless you expect PS5 to be announced this year, what games can Sony reveal?
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: darkknightkryta on Aug 13, 2018, 10:01 PM
If E3 is anything to go by... Not much. I think God of War 2 will be the last ps4 title from them after the ps5 launches.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Aug 14, 2018, 12:52 AM
If E3 is anything to go by... Not much. I think God of War 2 will be the last ps4 title from them after the ps5 launches.
I think GoW2 is probably a PS5 game
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: darkknightkryta on Aug 14, 2018, 12:13 PM
I think GoW2 is probably a PS5 game
I doubt it, only cause historically, the second main entry is at the tail end of the gen.  Plus Sony likes to leave a parting gift for a console before they move on.    Maybe a "cross gen" title.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: BananaKing on Aug 14, 2018, 12:31 PM
I doubt it, only cause historically, the second main entry is at the tail end of the gen.  Plus Sony likes to leave a parting gift for a console before they move on.    Maybe a "cross gen" title.
Yeah but development changed and circumstances change. Releasing GoW5 in 2022 on PS4 is unreasonable. The "parting" gifts are TLoU, Ghost and Death Stranding (which I think will be cross gen)
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 14, 2018, 03:13 PM
^probably true and disappointing.  
Not ready for this gen to end .
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Aug 14, 2018, 03:53 PM
Yeah but development changed and circumstances change. Releasing GoW5 in 2022 on PS4 is unreasonable. The "parting" gifts are TLoU, Ghost and Death Stranding (which I think will be cross gen)
I still expect Horizon 2 to be current gen. It's been 1 and a half years so the game could be pretty far in development.

Could be their big PSX announcement.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Xevross on Aug 14, 2018, 07:34 PM
^probably true and disappointing.  
Not ready for this gen to end .
Opposite of disappointing for me. New gen is coming and I want Sony's games to be shiny and new. Would be a shame if they were tied down by having to be on PS4.

I still expect Horizon 2 to be current gen. It's been 1 and a half years so the game could be pretty far in development.

Could be their big PSX announcement.
I really hope not, PS5 launch title please.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Kerotan on Aug 15, 2018, 09:29 AM
Hopefully a ps4 Pro slim and ps4 super slim.

Personally I want gow2 and horizon 2 to be ps5 games.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Horizon on Aug 23, 2018, 03:26 PM
Tokyo Game Show pre-event:

(https://gematsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/PS-LineUp-Tour_08-22-18.jpg)

Sony Interactive Entertainment Japan Asia will host "PlayStation LineUp Tour", an hour-long live show event that will host videos of the latest PlayStation 4 games, on September 10 at 18:30 JST at Tokyo Midtown, the company announced (https://www.jp.playstation.com/blog/detail/7373/20180822-lineuptour.html).
The event itself will be "set in a vast universe that represents the world of PlayStation" that invites viewers to "participate as members of a DualShock 4 spaceship's crew and travel across various planets" as they experience footage of the latest PlayStation 4 games.
PlayStation Plus members and standard Sony Entertainment Network account holders can apply-PlayStation Plus link (https://www.jp.playstation.com/form/s1/events/pslineuplive/entry-plus/), standard account link (https://www.jp.playstation.com/form/s1/events/pslineuplive/entry/)--to be one of 155 users chosen to attend the event. For everyone else, the event will be live streamed.
While not specifically stated, it seems likely that this is a new format for Sony Interactive Entertainment Japan Asia's annual pre-Tokyo Game Show press conference. In 2017 and 2016, it was called "PlayStation Press Conference in Japan." The years before that, it was known as the "SCEJA Press Conference."

Read more at SIEJA PlayStation LineUp Tour video live show set for September 10 - Gematsu (https://gematsu.com/2018/08/sieja-playstation-lineup-tour-video-live-show-set-for-september-10#KCTz2Tv4WjP5eIvY.99)
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Xevross on Aug 23, 2018, 04:30 PM
I'm not gonna watch the Tokyo show this year, its always a waste of time.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: darkknightkryta on Aug 23, 2018, 04:44 PM
I'm not gonna watch the Tokyo show this year, its always a waste of time.
Yeah Japan's in a weird place.  Square-Enix is as incompetent as ever.  I'm assuming they're going to show off the Switch version of Dragon Quest (Assuming they didn't abandon it).  Konami is stuck until its president dies.  Capcom's output has slowed down... a lot.  Sony seems to only want one game coming out of Japan at a time now.  Namco has turned into fighters only.  That leaves Atlus and Sega.  Sega is turning around, but they have a lot of work to do since I don't think they're ready to work on new IPs which they desperately need.  Atlus released Persona 5 to much fanfare, and have nothing else but lesser games (They need a next big hit).  Then there's the little guys, which are little :P
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Aug 23, 2018, 05:07 PM
I'm not gonna watch the Tokyo show this year, its always a waste of time.
It always is but I always watch!
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: DerNebel on Aug 26, 2018, 12:11 AM
I'll probably watch it, not expecting a lot though.

Outside of getting Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter back to Playstation I've been seriously disappointed with Sonys effort for the japanese market/people who enjoy games more aimed at the japanese market this generation. This is the most profitable this business has ever been and they are just barely putting any of that money back into securing a future market position in their own home territory, which is especially important right now, with Nintendo coming back strong and actually appealing to all those japanese third parties very much.

People keep saying "Oh, Sony doesn't need to do anything for Japan, all those japanese companies will keep making games for future PS consoles anyways". Will they? Will they really? Outside of the two japanese third parties still trying to actively push the technical boundaries with their games (Square Enix, Capcom), will any of these publishers stick around just because, if they are selling just as well if not better on the Switch and can't keep up with AAA budgets anyways? Why not keep their budgets lower and simply stick to the weaker Switch, if it keeps them in business just as well? After all japanese publishers have shown time and again, that they have no problem making games platform exclusive for no good reason. Why for instance is Yokai Watch 4 not coming to PS4 next to the Switch? Technically it should easily be doable, the game should compare reasonably well visually to other japanese PS4 games, should sell reasonably well and their shouldn't be any weird control scheme issues either. So unless there's some backdoor Nintendo deal in place, there is no fudgy reason why this game shouldn't be on PS4 or even Steam and Xbox aside from the Switch and yet here we are.

In a time like this Sony's japanese studios should play leading roles in the building of actual high profile system selling software for the japanese market, just like their western teams do for the western market. Not only because they want to sell their games and systems in Japan, but also because it acts as proof of faith in the japanese market, that would show japanese developers, that Sony still cares about this market and about creating a healthy environment for them to sell their games to. Instead we have Japan Studios being hellbend on making "unique medium sized games", which has resulted in a whole lot of mediocrity and not a lot of sales, Polyphony Digital deciding to try something new, but ending up not only delivering too late once again, but also lacking a whole lot of content, that they are now implementing into the game post release and all of Sony Japans collaborations outside of Bloodborne pretty much falling on their faces.

Making unique experiences is fine, but Sony needs big tentpole titles for the japanese market, that they own and make. Otherwise this idea of the Playstation console being the one system where you can play pretty much anything coming out outside of first party games no matter if it's western or eastern, might no longer be true in a couple years. Expand your existing studios, buy new ones, do something!!

I just want the AAA JRPG market to stop being completely held by fudgy Square Enix for god's sake. -_____________-

Rant over.   
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Aug 26, 2018, 12:14 AM
Wonder what happened to that Sony Japanese RPG that was rumored? Was that Ghost or was the leaker a fake?
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 26, 2018, 12:26 AM
Wonder what happened to that Sony Japanese RPG that was rumored? Was that Ghost or was the leaker a fake?
I think that was Verendus, but iirc GAF figured he wasn't actually in the know after some things didn't end up happening.  
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Kerotan on Aug 26, 2018, 05:03 AM
On one hand Sony did super well to get titles like monster Hunter and Dq11 on ps4. Games like inazuma 11 too. But on the other hand I'm surprised they couldn't get yokai watch 4. I wonder if Nintendo secured exclusivity?
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: DerNebel on Aug 26, 2018, 08:43 AM
Wonder what happened to that Sony Japanese RPG that was rumored? Was that Ghost or was the leaker a fake?
Yeah, like Pi-guy said, that was Verendus, who turned out to be a phony. If you actually look back at his "leaks" it becomes pretty obvious, that he's either just throwing out obvious things, things that were super broad and vague or at times he just made guesses, that he would claim didn't pan out because "things change" if they didn't end up happening.

That or you are thinking about Henrik, who has been spinning this tale of a Sony Japan space RPG called Rayspace for months now. But that's not a rumour, that's just a guy scouring all the media pertaining to Sony Japan (interviews, videos, twitter posts) and then drawing conclusions from it way too liberally.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: darkknightkryta on Aug 26, 2018, 04:42 PM
On one hand Sony did super well to get titles like monster Hunter and Dq11 on ps4. Games like inazuma 11 too. But on the other hand I'm surprised they couldn't get yokai watch 4. I wonder if Nintendo secured exclusivity?
I don't know, but NIS let slip that Nintendo paid for no physical version of SNK Heroines for PS4.  They made it sound like Nintendo is trying to secure indy deals.  Not saying Yokai Watch is indy, but they might be paying.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Aug 26, 2018, 04:49 PM
Yeah, like Pi-guy said, that was Verendus, who turned out to be a phony. If you actually look back at his "leaks" it becomes pretty obvious, that he's either just throwing out obvious things, things that were super broad and vague or at times he just made guesses, that he would claim didn't pan out because "things change" if they didn't end up happening.

That or you are thinking about Henrik, who has been spinning this tale of a Sony Japan space RPG called Rayspace for months now. But that's not a rumour, that's just a guy scouring all the media pertaining to Sony Japan (interviews, videos, twitter posts) and then drawing conclusions from it way too liberally.
Yeah it just felt like we were all so optimistic about PS4 Japanese games but that kinda fizzled out.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: DerNebel on Aug 26, 2018, 05:21 PM
Yeah it just felt like we were all so optimistic about PS4 Japanese games but that kinda fizzled out.
Only thing we can hope is that Nintendo coming back lights a fire under Sonys dog and sees them trying better with that market. They can't go around making empty statements like "our goal is it to sell one PS4 per japanese household" and then have what they are currently doing be their "strategy" to achieve that goal.

I guess even if Sony has gotten this wake up call, it won't be until the next generation that we maybe see some results for it, but that would be better than nothing.               
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: darkknightkryta on Aug 26, 2018, 06:39 PM
Isn't the guy who took over from House a Japanese guy? Like he has a different tune than his predecessors.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 26, 2018, 08:17 PM
Isn't the guy who took over from House a Japanese guy? Like he has a different tune than his predecessors.
John Kodera.  
We will have to see.  
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: darkknightkryta on Aug 26, 2018, 10:58 PM
John Kodera.  
We will have to see.  
Was he the one quoted in saying he wanted another handheld?  Or was that a different guy?
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Aug 26, 2018, 11:26 PM
Was he the one quoted in saying he wanted another handheld?  Or was that a different guy?
Yeah.

Quote
"In my opinion, rather than separating portable gaming from consoles, it's necessary to continue thinking of it (portable gaming) as one method to deliver more gaming experiences and exploring what our customers want from portable," Kodera said at a roundtable interview on Wednesday in Tokyo. "We want to think about many options."
Terms of Service Violation (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-23/sony-s-new-playstation-chief-hints-at-portable-gaming-revival)
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Sep 06, 2018, 04:30 AM
Death Stranding Stage Presentation at Tokyo Game Show 2018 Announced (https://www.dualshockers.com/death-stranding-stage-presentation-tokyo-game-show-2018-announced/)
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Sep 10, 2018, 03:54 PM
I bloody missed TGS lol  :'(
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 10, 2018, 03:57 PM
Just think. 
If the PS5 comes in 2019, we are only months before it's announced.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: DerNebel on Sep 10, 2018, 04:18 PM
Just think.  
If the PS5 comes in 2019, we are only months before it's announced.
It won't though, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I watched the show, it was ok, for what it was. That Cygames game Project Awakening looked great (though that was probably mostly either CG or not PS4 hardware), Project Prelude Rune looks like it could become a decent JRPG, Sekiro, Resident Evil 2 and KH3 still look great. Some unintentionally funny moments thanks to the live translations.

A lot of trailers, were simply re-cuts of already released trailers and the order of things was way off, how do you start with a high point like Project Awakening (seriously, if you just watch one thing from this conference, make it that trailer, it looks amazing) and then end on freaking Everybody's Golf VR??? Also Japan Studio brought nothing new, which isn't really surprising but disappointing nonetheless.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: the-pi-guy on Sep 10, 2018, 04:56 PM
It won't though, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, I'm still thinking 2020.  
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Kerotan on Sep 11, 2018, 10:24 AM
Yeah, I'm still thinking 2020.  
2019 would be a disaster. Ps4 and especially ps4 Pro are powerful enough for now. A ton of ps4 games still to play. I probably won't buy a ps5 until 2021 whether it comes out in 2020 or not. Ps4 is such a fantastic console with so much to play.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Sep 12, 2018, 06:33 AM
It won't though, so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I watched the show, it was ok, for what it was. That Cygames game Project Awakening looked great (though that was probably mostly either CG or not PS4 hardware), Project Prelude Rune looks like it could become a decent JRPG, Sekiro, Resident Evil 2 and KH3 still look great. Some unintentionally funny moments thanks to the live translations.

A lot of trailers, were simply re-cuts of already released trailers and the order of things was way off, how do you start with a high point like Project Awakening (seriously, if you just watch one thing from this conference, make it that trailer, it looks amazing) and then end on freaking Everybody's Golf VR??? Also Japan Studio brought nothing new, which isn't really surprising but disappointing nonetheless.
Woah that was an odd show even for TGS! Translations were just part of the funny funkyness.

They had heart rate monitors on people in the audience lol! Also those balls at the end.

Project Awakening does look good.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 28, 2018, 09:48 PM
PSX 2018 Is Not Happening, PlayStation Exec Confirms - IGN (https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/28/psx-2018-is-not-happening-playstation-exec-confirms)
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Legend on Sep 28, 2018, 10:00 PM
PSX 2018 Is Not Happening, PlayStation Exec Confirms - IGN (https://www.ign.com/articles/2018/09/28/psx-2018-is-not-happening-playstation-exec-confirms)
What the fudge!?!? Meganews.

Makes sense kinda. Just is shocking.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Xevross on Sep 28, 2018, 10:55 PM
Um what? They really have nothing to show? Lame.
Title: Re: So do we expect Sony to show up to Paris or PSX this year with new announcements?
Post by: Dr. Pezus on Sep 29, 2018, 09:20 AM
Um what? They really have nothing to show? Lame.
Sounds like ps5 is coming