Some of the game aspects of PSASBR had a mix of people liking it and disliking it.
The biggest problem that I had with the game was a lack of content. There were only 20 characters and that included 2 versions of Cole from inFamous.
Super Smash Bros Brawl has an immense amount of content. Plenty of characters, tons and tons of collectibles, even unlockable games!
One of the more mixed aspects of the game was requiring special attacks for KO's. I personally liked it because it required every player to be active in the fight. Whereas in SSB, it's pretty much a reasonable strategy to stay back from the fight and strike when people are getting weak.
There's been plenty of rumors of a PSASBR2, and personally I'd be excited if it came true. Even if there isn't necessarily more content, it was still a pretty fun game and I would look forward to playing it again.
So what do you think of these aspects of the game? Was there anything else you really didn't like or really did like?
And how would you feel about PSASBR 2?
Never played it, or even seen any gameplay of it before.
Never played it, or even seen any gameplay of it before.
Nintendo fanboy REconfirmed
Never played it, or even seen any gameplay of it before.
Wut.
The.
Heck.
Is.
This.
?.
Noobiness confirmed.
Never played it, or even seen any gameplay of it before.
Now that I've had time to calm down. Have you played smash Bros?
If not: seek help.
If yes: what would you like to see from a PS Smash Bros.
Wut.
The.
Heck.
Is.
This.
?.
Noobiness confirmed.
Now that I've had time to calm down. Have you played smash Bros?
If not: seek help.
If yes: what would you like to see from a PS Smash Bros.
I know what it is. And yes, I've played smash bros, which is the precisely the reason I have no need for PSASBR in my life.
I know what it is. And yes, I've played smash bros, which is the precisely the reason I have no need for PSASBR in my life.
Well fine be that way. :P
I know what it is. And yes, I've played smash bros, which is the precisely the reason I have no need for PSASBR in my life.
I'm doing this again.
I think it's strange. I always enjoyed Smash Bros and was always thrilled by the idea of having a PS version. It's fun to play as your favorite characters against some of your other favorites.
Great OP and yeah the lack of content was the big problem imo too.
Loved the game and would love a sequel. The stages were so great and they really went toe to toe with smash on some of them
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(wow the game needs a PS4 remaster)
I also loved the characters. Kratos, Sweet Tooth, Nathan Drake, Big Daddy, Sackboy, Kat, Zeus, and Isaac Clarke were all really fun to play as.
PSASBR wishlist
Fighters:
Kratos
Parappa
Fat Princess
Sweet Tooth
Radec
Sly Cooper
Drake
Cole Macgrath (just one)
Ratchet and Clank
Jak and Daxter
Big Daddy
Nariko
Raiden
Sackboy
Sir Daniel
Toro
Kat
Isaac Clarke
New characters:
Kratos+Boy (fight as a team, separate from regular kratos)
Aloy
Joel
Ellie
Geralt
Noctis
Lara Croft
Knack
Kutaro
Journey person
Wanderer from SOTC
Destiny fighter
Punished Snake
Bloodborne hunter
^that'd make an awesome character list.
I was inspired to make this because I saw your Resetera post . ;D
^that'd make an awesome character list.
I was inspired to make this because I saw your Resetera post . ;D
I assumed as much.
I'm feeling way too much psasbr nostalgia right now. Watching some youtube tournaments.
Also I never noticed the first Smash has a 79 on metacritic. PSASBR 2 could be like melee and make it great.
Well fine be that way. :P
I'm doing this again.
I think it's strange. I always enjoyed Smash Bros and was always thrilled by the idea of having a PS version. It's fun to play as your favorite characters against some of your other favorites.
Well back then I didn't care about pretty much any of the PSASBR characters, so I just didn't care at all. I only heard about it quite a while after release, I didn't have a ps3 anymore.
I agree though it is fun to play as favourite characters against other favourites, that's one reason why smash bros was fun ;)
The first game was doomed with "smash clone" talk. Everyone complained it was like smash and everyone complained it wasn't close enough to smash simultaneously.
A sequel wouldn't have to deal with that as much since now it'd be compared to the first one as well.
Oh and we'd need 2B in a new one.
The first game was doomed with "smash clone" talk. Everyone complained it was like smash and everyone complained it wasn't close enough to smash simultaneously.
So true it almost hurts.
How do you feel about requiring special attacks?
Yeah, how dare a game be like a very good game. We should all shame on Mortal Kombat and Fatal Fury.
Now with that said, Sony should never have used Smash Bros as a template. They should have used this as one instead:
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So true it almost hurts.
How do you feel about requiring special attacks?
The gameplay in PSASBR was problematic imo because it was cool and offered interesting dynamics for pro players but felt counterintuitive.
Special attacks were awesome imo since they allowed a fight to really evolve. Fighting a person with no super vs fighting someone with meter at level 2 felt different. Also it was cool how each of the three levels were different and you had to weigh the pros and cons of going for each super.
Problem of course with special attacks was that they made regular attacks feel weak and poor. You just kinda bonk each other until the meter fills up. In Smash and other games every percentage point matters while in this game it's binary: the attack either kills them or it doesn't. It doesn't feel good working up to a super attack only to get zero benefit from it, and that happens a ton during PSASBR matches.
Also the AP system made defense feel pointless. It didn't directly hurt you so only players thinking about the meta would care about its importance. I think this was the biggest problem with the game's mechanics. On one hand it made throws important since that was the only way to decrease another player's AP, but it still didn't feel the best when playing.
I think it could have been improved by keeping the supers but adding a traditional health system. Every attack would still generate AP but it would also do damage to the other player. If they get to zero health they die, and super attacks are insta kills regardless of health. Sadly this would have hurt high level play and made it more generic, but it probably would have greatly improved the experience for casual players.
The initial complaints may have come from the similarities to Smash but what ultimately killed the games was that Sony clearly wasn't willing to go the whole nine yards to make this game a success, plus it apparently really wasn't all that great either.
Just looking at the roster of the first game tells you all that you need to know, cause it's freaking terrible from a marketing point of view. Crash, Spyro, Snake and Cloud should have been among the first characters to make it in the game, they should have been top priority. But even beyond that there are so many obvious misses in that lineup it's insane.
Where's the Resident Evil representation?
Tomb Raider?
Kingdom Hearts?
If you want to make a Playstation cross over brawler then you need to have something better to put on your box than Fat Princess, a character that about 99% of gamers, even on Playstation have no freaking connection to.
Also the original game was ugly as sin, so a sequel would desperately need to improve on that front.
So if they can make the game look more pleasing and if they are actually willing to invest into getting the right characters, then I would possibly give a sequel to this a go.
Oh and another thing imo they can't just stuff a game like this full with realistic looking humans, which is an inherent problem that I feel stands between Sony's franchises and a crossover brawler.
Smash is inherently silly and it works, because Nintendo's characters are mostly cartoony, so it's easier to just go with an idea like Smash. A crossover brawler filled largely with characters, who the developers of their original games want to be "realistic", is just a way harder thing to properly execute. For instance I have a hard time imagining Joel & Ellie in a game like this as anything but freaking weird.
The initial complaints may have come from the similarities to Smash but what ultimately killed the games was that Sony clearly wasn't willing to go the whole nine yards to make this game a success, plus it apparently really wasn't all that great either.
Just looking at the roster of the first game tells you all that you need to know, cause it's freaking terrible from a marketing point of view. Crash, Spyro, Snake and Cloud should have been among the first characters to make it in the game, they should have been top priority. But even beyond that there are so many obvious misses in that lineup it's insane.
Where's the Resident Evil representation?
Tomb Raider?
Kingdom Hearts?
If you want to make a Playstation cross over brawler then you need to have something better to put on your box than Fat Princess, a character that about 99% of gamers, even on Playstation have no freaking connection to.
Also the original game was ugly as sin, so a sequel would desperately need to improve on that front.
So if they can make the game look more pleasing and if they are actually willing to invest into getting the right characters, then I would possibly give a sequel to this a go.
Oh and another thing imo they can't just stuff a game like this full with realistic looking humans, which is an inherent problem that I feel stands between Sony's franchises and a crossover brawler.
Smash is inherently silly and it works, because Nintendo's characters are mostly cartoony, so it's easier to just go with an idea like Smash. A crossover brawler filled largely with characters, who the developers of their original games want to be "realistic", is just a way harder thing to properly execute. For instance I have a hard time imagining Joel & Ellie in a game like this as anything but freaking weird.
It really needed more content and more of Sony's weight behind it. Half the characters were only included to promote new games.
A new one lucks out because Crash is back. He was the most demanded character and almost all discussion about the roster included his omission. Sony could most likely get Spyro now as well, thanks to the remaster.
Graphics/art style are hard but I think the newer Smashes deal with it too.
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