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Fixing that was a pain...

Do we have a street fight 5 thread yet? I searched but didn't see one on the first page.

We have the announcement thread, and ethomaz made an updated thread of some kind on the new features.  

They managed to get the dragon on Chun Li's outfit.  Nice.

Now go on PSN you woman ;o  I have to kick your dog in Ultra.

Lol. I can't right now. I'm about to run and get my wife some food. But i'll have the weekend free and I took monday off for e3

Spoiler for Hidden:

f work

From GAF.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfrSKt5b-50 (Watch in 60FPS)Embargo is up. Previews incomingCombofiend's breakdown of the Variable System (http://www.capcom-unity.com/combofiend/blog/2015/06/11/street-fighter-v-battle-system-details)Quote

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The V-System consists of three variable mechanics all built around the new V-Gauge, which primarily builds as your character takes damage. The three mechanics are: V-Skill, V-Trigger and V-Reversal.  V-Skill V-Skills are unique skills per character that can be accessed at any time by pressing medium punch and medium kick together. These skills do not require use of the V-Gauge and have different uses per character (e.g. mobility, offensive, defensive). V-Skills are rather important in battle as they may help a character in an area they're weak at or help to fill up the V-Gauge quicker. Learning how to properly and efficiently use each character's V-Skill will be key in winning matches. V-Trigger  V-Triggers are unique abilities per character that can only be activated once the V-Gauge is full, by pressing heavy punch and heavy kick together. V-Triggers, much like Ultras in Street Fighter IV, are a way for your character to turn the tide of battle. That, however, is where the similarities end. Activating the V-Trigger, which allows access to a character's full potential, is merely step one. It is completely up to the player to properly utilize the benefits received from the V-Trigger to change the course of the match. As V-Triggers add quite a bit of depth to each character, mastering their use will be paramount to victory. V-Reversals V-Reversals take up one stock of V-Gauge, and allow a player to counter the attack of the opponent while blocking, thus creating some breathing room. They are similar to "Alpha counters" from the Street Fighter Alpha series, but this time not every counter results in a universal effect; some push the opponent back, some knock them down and some switch sides. Players should explore each character to see how their V-Reversals function.

Previews:DTOID - 'My first three hours with Street Fighter V were immensely satisfying' (http://www.destructoid.com/my-first-three-hours-with-street-fighter-v-was-immensely-satisfying-293564.phtml)SRK - 'Going Hands-On with Street Fighter V: Versatility Has Its (V-)Benefits' (http://shoryuken.com/2015/06/11/going-hands-on-with-street-fighter-v-versatility-has-its-v-benefits/)IGN - 'E3 2015: EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT STREET FIGHTER 5' (http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/06/11/e3-2015-everything-you-need-to-know-about-street-fighter-5)VideoGamerTV - 'Street Fighter 5 New PS4 Gameplay Impressions (1080p, 60fps): Ryu, Chun-Li, M Bison, Nash' (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TB9dIfEwwG8)Gamespot - 'Street Fighter 5: Your Expert Guide to What's New' (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/street-fighter-5-your-expert-guide-to-what-s-new/1100-6427983/)EGM now - 'Street Fighter V may not look hugely different at first, but its gameplay sure is' (http://www.egmnow.com/articles/previews/street-fighter-v-may-not-look-hugely-different-at-first-but-its-gameplay-sure-is/#)

@Legend is it possible to merge threads?  Supposing  @Rise Kujikawa wants it merged.

So they have an EX Meter, a V-Trigger Meter, and a ... Revenge Meter? Critical Arts Meter?

Do it. Add people to op too.
Ex is gone. I think it's just the v meter now and everything runs off that?

...dude. The very first picture shows an EX Meter beneath the V-Trigger Meter.

oh sorry that was the focus moves. So ex and V

Are you on drugs? You've been a bit... off, lately.

Yeah, I need to not post at work this was just an odd mistake. I remembered they talked about taking something out of the game and i thought that was it. then i remembered. Plus i'm just worn down, between working mad hours then having to come home and do everything because my wife can't. So it's a bit sucky right now.

Is she a cripple?

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Zu den bereits bekannten Teilnehmern Ryu, Chun-Li, Nash und M. Bison gesellen sich die Veteranen Cammy White und Birdie. Cammy spielt sich flott wie eh und je, die quirlige Dame setzt in erster Linie auf Schnelligkeit und Nahkampfangriffe. Birdie hingegen ist ein gewaltiger Brocken, er haut ordentlich zu und steckt einiges ein. Der Koloss ist zwar sehr unbeweglich, seine Eisenkette hat aber eine nicht zu unterschätzende Reichweite. Deswegen ist der Riese in der aktuellen Vorab-Version auch deutlich zu stark. Hier muss Capcom noch an der Balance schrauben!

 

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 Unshitty translation: Among the already known participants Ryu, Chun-Li, Nash/Charlie and M. Bison, the veterans Cammy White and Birdie will take part as well. Cammy still plays as swiftly as she always did, focusing on speed and melee attacks. Birdie, on the other hand, is an enormous hul who hits really hard and can take quite the beating. Although the giant is very immobile, he has an iron chain that gives him range that is not to be underestimated. That's why the big guy is way too strong in the current preview version. Capcom still needs to fine-tune the balance in that regard!

 

No she's pregnant with twins. It's kicking her dog.

Rumor: Birdie and Cammy for Street Fighter 5 - NeoGAF (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1062059)
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Twins? Oh my fudge. It's bad enough they let you reproduce even once but two in one shot?!

The revenge meter is gone.  They're going old school.  You're going to have to work for your supers now.

I know, right?

What is the bar beneath their health bar then?
Don't worry. I'll remind you what it feels like to have money after they're born.

Yeah, Im just glad i have every system now. So I just have to worry about game.  :(

We should just make this the OP. And darkknight to the Op and anyone else who would like to keep up with it. @Legend

Yeah I didn't get around to rebuilding that feature.

Post E3 I'll figure it out. For now just rely on mods if you want to change someone's post.

No she's pregnant with twins. It's kicking her dog.

Mother of god... pregnancy with one child is tough, but two?? :o

Yeah, tell me about it. She's spent the past 3 weeks basically in bed. She doing well tonight though and ate well for the first time in awhile.

That's good to hear. I wish your wife a lot of luck!

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It's not too late....

No she's pregnant with twins. It's kicking her dog.

Kids are trouble.  
But once they pop out, they are amazing!  
My littlest brother is the coolest person I know.  

Let's all just assume you're talking about unclogging your shower drain from all your hair...

Do you have to pay for your little brother?  :'(

You guys have no real sense of humor.

You guys have no real sense of humor.

Children stop going off topic.  Go make a new thread about Mr. Tacos.

Cammy and Birdie confirmed.

Got some art? I'll add it to the op.

Release date?

Feb 2016 was leaked by PS Store.

I wonder who they're going to show at the BRAZIL game show.  Still, I'm so jealous at all those BLANKA statues (Seriously though I am)

My friend was saying that they made an Oro figure.  Supposedly Oro's from Brazil.  So Oro is probably going to be revealed.  Blanka might not even be shown off if they put like, Shawn or a new character.

Ken is back! #sfv #capcom #SDCC (https://instagram.com/p/47Twg1p6ZM/)

A video posted by Mission Start Podcast (@missionstartpodcast) on Jul 9, 2015 at 12:12pm PDT

People are guessing that's Akuma, but it doesn't look like Akuma.  Unless Akuma's dying :O

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/streetfighter/images/b/bf/Akuma_by_z0h3-d48rru7.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120903040411)
Looks pretty similar

Money exchange system from Marvel vs Capcom 2 has made its return.

What is that?

And at the end of the video.

(http://abload.de/img/2015-07-0921_22_49-mikfzxb.png)

compares pics..
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/293/19223872973_ac3a4c0f0c_z.jpg)

i think it is this new guy.

Seems the beta is busted right now.

Bad netcode or what?

Servers crashed. They couldn't Handel the demand. Sad part is you have to connect to the servers to even be able to play in practice mode. So i can't even try it out.

Hopefully that's only for the beta. Would suck if it's online only at release.

Hopefully that's only for the beta. Would suck if it's online only at release.

I think i got in!

Nope it just let me see the splash screen this time...

Why did I not get an invite? I'm sure I applied

Did you pre-order?

no

That's probably why.

US is only pre-order.
EU have a sigh in without pre-order.

Exactly...Raven knows nothing

Exactly...Raven knows nothing

I got in!

Tell us everything!

shame, I just got disconnected from the server.

But what I know so far.

Chun li has half circle moves now. That's how you do her repeated kick, but now you can't do it forever like you could before. Her super is also activated with half circles now. Everything else seems the same with her. I didn't noticed what her v trigger did.

With Ryu everything pretty much the same. His v trigger makes he stupid fast though, as if getting in a hadouken lock wasn't already dangerous enough.

There isn't a move list in the beta, Cpu does nothing while in training. So no Cpu fights while you wait. There's 6 playable characters in the beta.

Nice.  I saw they changed Chun Li's moveset when they did her reveal.  So weird though.  Cause before I got my arcade stick back in the early PS3's life, I thought the quarter circle forwards/half circle forwards were the easiest ways to chain combos and stuff.  Easiest to chain, hardest to do.  Then when I got my stick and I was playing around with Blanka and Chun Li, I started seeing why they did charge moves.  Chaining charge moves is pretty fluid and advanced.  Like I was always felt: "If you're starting, pick a charge character", but man I was wrong.

Yeah, charge character are the hardest to use. Timing has to be just right. But she still a charge character, they just make her rapid kick different and about impossible to keep going forever.

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Thats pretty expensive. I'll wait till the game comes out, there might be some cheaper by then.

Unless you look used, price of sticks don't go down.

Well there could be more options.

Why did I not get an invite? I'm sure I applied

Apparently you didn't know anything either since you're whining about not getting into a beta you thought you were getting into.

If you call that whining, lol...
I knew that I didn't need to pre-order but they didn't say that they would only invite a limited amount of people where I applied.

Well I just bought Street Fighter 4 for the 4th time...

Good, get your dog online!

Good, get your dog online!

I demand more high resolution screens of Cammy taken at the... ahem... perfect moments.

SFV is getting a lot of hype in China. I love Ono's enthusiasm in these images ;D


(http://i.imgur.com/lVSk14l.jpg)

is that a dude in chun-li's clothing?

I hope they don't ruin 5 with a cheap dog shaming boss like they did with 4. I'm playing on easy right now just to get the hang of everything again. And this dog hat is beatable the first round. Then the second he ramps up to hard as fudge and don't let you do anything.

You didn't play the original 4 did you?  He starts off as hard as the second round.  It's weird though.  I have the hang of fighting Seth now, and playing the game on hardest difficulty, but for whatever reason Seth is a different beast in the PS4 version.  He's way harder.  He does stuff in the PS4 version that I don't see in my PS4 version.

I did. And I remember it being hard on medium but this is just stupid and i'm playing on easy.

Finally after about 20 rounds this morning.

Poor tacos :(

yeah, but that was a decent round right?

Maybe?  I was fast forwarding since I didn't know who was who till I got to the end.

Alright finally saw it through.  Forgot what low level play looks like :P.  Keep at it though, you have the basics down, you just have to learn the system now.

Maybe?  I was fast forwarding since I didn't know who was who till I got to the end.

Alright finally saw it through.  Forgot what low level play looks like :P.  Keep at it though, you have the basics down, you just have to learn the system now.

:(
Give me a few mins, I'll show you the worst ken ryu fight ever.

Here it is. I"m evil.

Don't be scared to focus cancel fireballs or any attacks.  It builds Ultra meter.  Also, if you're going to dodge a fireball by jumping straight, use a hurricane kick.  It'll build special.  If you do a knockdown with Evil Ryu, do a stomp while your opponent is on the ground to build meter.  It has a pretty quick recovery time.  Ryu's combos are also based off of chaining his stomp kick.  It's not easy to do though.  Here's a pretty decent combo video I found:

Do you think doing the challenges are help full? It's seems like the timing is too tight for real matches.

Challenges don't really help.  You'll learn a few things, but nothing they teach you is practical.  What the challenges did do though, is let the pros know you can chain a lot of things with proper timing.  That Evil Ryu combo video I gave you for instance.  Training isn't going to help you realize Evil Ryu can do that, but knowing the frame data and stuff will.  I've been able to figure out a few combos with Akuma for instance and if my execution was better, I'd figure out more stuff that not even pros use.  As far as those links go, they can be done in matches.  All high level Evil Ryu play uses even more advanced combos than those.  You just need a lot of meter to use them.

Like I see this often in streams:

Yeah, Im trying to use stomp more often. But it gets me in trouble a lot too.

Who do you play as?

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This is my first on only win today. I feel like even the d players are pro. Maybe it would be best to wait till 5 comes out to play on line that way i have a chance.

I can't log into this beta :P

Why is there an update for the beta? I just clicked on it to see and I'm now downloading a 1.2 GB update.

Has there been any word when they'll try again?

It's up?

Finally got in. I'm loving it so far.

dang it, why can't we stream the beta! I've won every fight tonight.

My fightstick wont work with the game  :-[

they made her fugly -_-

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPFTUNQUEAELZU5.jpg)

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What u smokin', bro?

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Long story short, Famitsu done goofed & released the images early.

(http://i.imgur.com/SekJJRR.jpg)

Translation: "It starts with a beat and ends with a bang!"

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Source: Famitsu (http://www.famitsu.com/images/000/089/716/560a6d3825082.html) (Saved on my Imgur account just in case (http://imgur.com/a/Hsx1z))

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yum.

Surprised no one posted about Zangief being announced.

Surprised no one posted about Zangief being announced.

Zangief has no bosom.

What is it with Capcom and grapplers?  Zangief and Mika are enough.  Even with Street Fighter 4; El Fuerte, Zangief, Hakan and Abel.

Was there a reason you stickied this fish?

I have been stabbed from behind..However I'm thinking about working hard on @EGSmexico @BrasilGameShow NY comic-con.Plz get out of my way...

— Yoshinori Ono (@Yoshi_OnoChin) October 2, 2015

Yeah but think about how many characters there were in SF4 overall. I don't think having four grapples is that big of a deal when you look at the number of Shoto or near-Shoto characters the game had.

Other than Sakura, they were put in there as fan service more or less.  Like Akuma and Gouken are tied down to Ryu and Ken.  Dan is a joke character and isn't to be taken seriously.  Sakura is in when Dan and Blanka are in.  Plus with this game, it looks like only Ryu and Ken are making the main roster.  Like, they Laura should have been... never mind I Just realized she's jiu jitsu.

Was there a reason you stickied this fish?

pic.twitter.com/efWq2sZd3K

— Varteras (@Varteras) October 8, 2015

When is this launching again

So it wasn't really that exciting. The big reveal was the new stage set in New York. According to a forum poster on Shoryuken, Ono said that he has heard clearly that people want to play as Alex from Street Fighter 3 so he will be talking to the team about it back in Japan. The roster is indeed only going to be 16 at release but there will be more added over time and they will all be unlockable in-game if you don't want to pay for them. There is also a special edition PS4 with Ryu on the drive cover.

There was a leaked list of characters before Ken's reveal.  It has been spot on.  List of All Characters (Possible Leak) - Street Fighter V Message Board for PlayStation 4 - GameFAQs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/895976-street-fighter-v/72043378)
Alex is in the list.  So's Urien.  Like, I doubt they would revive Charlie by Urien/Gill's cult without either (Gill/Urien) of them in the game.  I'm guessing Ono is just trolling Alex cause they're not ready to show him off yet.   Probably going to try to overhaul his character.  There's already 3 grapplers in the game.  Making 1/4 your characters essentially the same wouldn't be the smartest of ideas.  So they probably haven't finished making him.

The problem is the roster is only 16 to start, there are only two characters left to reveal, and one of them will be brand new. So you can't have Alex, Urien, Juri, AND Dhalsim as returning characters for the initial roster. It's only going to be one of them. Something to keep in mind is that list did not mention Necalli, who was revealed after Ken, nor is it the only supposed leak list with characters like R.Mika and Karin in it. Those were highly requested Alpha characters. Leakers have also taken to spreading incomplete leaks or even some false information within those leaks to protect themselves and/or their sources. It would be far from the first time that a leak turned out to be partially true even if it looked spot on at one point. Just look at all of the "leaks" surrounding the next WoW expansion. Some information was spot on and some of it turned out to be bogus with each leak.

The only way that list works is if there are more than 16 characters in the initial roster or the list is not talking about JUST the initial roster. Which if that's the case then surely there has to be more than that coming down the road. That is what people are mostly debating right now. Which characters are in on Day 1. Those characters could certainly come in as DLC down the road and with the obvious implications with Nash I can't imagine them NOT bringing back some Street Fighter 3 characters to tie things together better. As far as Alex goes, if he's not Day 1 or early DLC, it becomes next to impossible to prove he was ever intended to begin with and that he wasn't added later after fan feedback. Ono does like to troll, though...

You're assuming "Sim" is Dhalsim and not Necali

1. Ryu (Announced)
2. Chun Li (Announced)
3. Bison (Announced)
4. Charlie (Announced)
5. Birdie (Announced)
6. Cammy (Announced)
7. R. Mika (Announced)
8. Zangief (Announced)
9. Sim(Necali) (Announced)
10. Juri
11. Karin (Announced)
12. Ken (Announced)
13. Urien
14. Alex
15. Laura (Announced)
16. Rashid (Announced)
17. Zen
18. Boss
I added the characters announced till that point.  It's possible they were still figuring things out and Alex ended up getting cut (Background character).

"Sim" is short for Dhalsim. That's not me assuming anything. That's what he is referred to for short by a lot of Street Fighter players. Even if you could argue that I'm assuming, your assumption is entirely baseless by comparison. The names are not even close to identical. I know how that list looks. I know it's been pretty dang accurate. I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing that if the initial roster is indeed only 16, then that list is either inaccurate or it's including characters beyond the initial roster which no one cares about nearly as much right now. I'm also cautioning you on taking that list as gospel based on what I've seen in the past of people leaking false information among accurate information to protect their sources. By the way, that list is missing Vega which is a fairly large omission considering he was announced after Ken and Necalli. Proving that the list is not 100% accurate because it totally left off a character that would be announced later.

pic.twitter.com/efWq2sZd3K

— Varteras (@Varteras) October 8, 2015

Spring 2016

Vega was my omission.  Vega was announced before Ken.  And so what if people call Dhalsim "sim"?  But yeah they were playing around with characters for sure.  Of course they're planning DLC characters.  Why wouldn't they?  That list also had Rashid and Laura a long time before.  I'm sure it was accurate till that point.

Is that you?
August it is!

Ummm no dude. Vega was not just your omission. He's not on that leak least you linked at all. No. He was NOT announced before Ken. Ken and Necalli were announced in July, with Ken being first and Necalli about 2 weeks later. Vega was announced in August. People calling Dhalsim "Sim" is most definitely important to consider when trying to figure out who "Sim" is and that does not sound, in any way, like it would be Necalli. So that's two missing names on that list that were confirmed AFTER the list was "leaked". The list is not 100% accurate of the characters we know now to exist in the game and cannot be the initial roster due to the number of characters listed, unless we're being toyed with by Capcom and Ono and there are more than 16 at release. They got a lot right but considering the odd omissions I don't think they had the whole story when they leaked that list. If Alex is Day 1 or early DLC, I'll concede that Ono planned him from the start. If he's not, I don't think we'll ever be able to say for sure.
Yeah. I get bored sometimes and dress up like random female characters from fighting games.

The pic explains why @NotBananaKing is always all up in DAT dog tho

Leak Fighter V continues, after speculation and teases we now pretty much have complete confirmation of the first 6 DLC characters thanks to dataminers doing their thing with the PC beta.

The characters are

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Urien, Alex, Ibuki, Guile, Balrog and Juri

Kinda sucks that all this stuff is getting leaked, it kinda takes the fun out of the pre-release phase but what can you do... at least they can't leak the designs of the characters and the story mode is also still a complete mystery.

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Yeah there were a lot of people talking about the DLC roster leaks. I'm really curious to see where Alex and Urien fall for release schedule. If Alex happens early on then we'll know Ono was yanking us. Though I'm pretty sure he knew in advance that people really wanted Alex. What's interesting to me is the 16th character being named "Fan". I assume that's not how you actually spell it. Tons of people were certain the final character would be named Zen.

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Maybe just a name change, doesn't seem that unlikely for a new character like that.

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Possible but I suppose we'll never actually know unless they do some kind of behind the scenes thing. I'm just really happy that they seem to be listening to what the fans want. Alex, Ibuki, Juri, Karin, R. Mika, and Nash were all characters I heard a lot of people wanted to begin with.

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this conversation is hard to follow.

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Stop using spoilers

No more butt slap.  :(

No more butt slap.  :(

Wot

If you were looking forward to playing Street Fighter V and taunting opponents while singing "Butt slap, baby, butt slap" to the tune of "Love Shack," prepare to be disappointed.

I refuse to buy this game as long as the censorship remains.

I refuse to buy this game as long as the censorship remains.

But the children

That's not censorship.

Call it what you want. It was there and now it's not. Games with more questionable content received a teen rating. I don't buy, for one second, that a butt slap turns the game mature. Not buying it as long as this change stays.

Because in a game where people beat the shame out of eachother, a butt slap is too much. Besides, the fudge are children doing playing a Teen rated game?

Call it what you want. It was there and now it's not. Games with more questionable content received a teen rating. I don't buy, for one second, that a butt slap turns the game mature. Not buying it as long as this change stays.

Because in a game where people beat the shame out of eachother, a butt slap is too much. Besides, the fudge are children doing playing a Teen rated game?

Cause teen is considered 13 and up. But if you feel the removal of a buttslap is enough for you to boycott this game then go ahead. I think it's pretty ridiculous cause it wouldn't take long until you'd stop paying attention to the buttslap anyway but suit yourself.

Cause teen is considered 13 and up. But if you feel the removal of a buttslap is enough for you to boycott this game then go ahead. I think it's pretty ridiculous cause it wouldn't take long until you'd stop paying attention to the buttslap anyway but suit yourself.

It's not the butt slap. It's the principle. If I wanted to see dog slapping, I have bad stuff. I don't care what your opinion is on how I handle it.

What's the principle then? I mean how often do you think things are being changed in games before they are out? The only mistake that Capcom made was changing something that was already shown.

What do you think the principle is? Do I really need to spell it out for you? Not wasting my time. Not buying it unless the change is reversed. Simple as that. You made it clear you don't agree with me and I made it clear I don't care. Nothing further to discuss. I'm not interested in changing your mind.

There is nothing to agree with you cause you're not making any sense. You say it's not about the buttslap for you but about some "principle". What is that principle? Developers better not change anything they make during game development? Weird cause if it's that then you should have jumped the SFV ship long ago cause the devs have been tweaking and changing the game tons since it was announced.

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 TE 2+ ($229.99): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...05K/812463-20/ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B018AW405K/812463-20/)http://store.madcatz.com/Street-Figh...3.html?whence= (http://store.madcatz.com/Street-Fighter-5-Arcade-FightStick-TE2-for-PS4-PS3.html?whence=)
 Alpha ($79.99): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...H8/5640412-20/ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B018HXA6H8/5640412-20/)
 Fight Pad Pro ($59.99): http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...5Y/3243266-20/ (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B018HXA75Y/3243266-20/)
 Madcatz Descriptions:http://madcatz.com/street-fighter-v-arcade-fightstick/

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Continuing with our award winning tournament grade arcade sticks, we have the Street Fighter V Arcade FightStick Tournament Edition S+ (TE-S+) and Street Fighter V Arcade FightStick Tournament Edition 2+ (TE2+). We listened to the feedback from the gaming community that really fell in love with the original Tournament Edition FightSticks, so we decided to bring it back in form of the TE-S+. Why the plus? We’re adding L3 and R3 buttons, full touch panel compatibility (gesture and button press) along with a refined case for a new generation of Street Fighter. Similarly, we’re doing the same with the TE2, which will also have the additional button and touch panel functionality built in.

 

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The FightStick Alpha is a new level of control that is both compact and ideal for travel/storage yet does not sacrifice the bare necessities of competitive standard. Holding true to it’s legacy, it plays brilliantly in your lap or on a flat surface and maintains a genuine arcade layout.

 

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The FightPad PRO is the evolution of our six-button fighting controller, which takes the floating d-pad concept to the next level in terms of control and precision. Much like it’s bigger brother, the FightStick, the FightPad PRO now comes with a bevy of options that allows you to play YOUR style and control the way YOU want. From it’s different functionality switches and the ability to control using either the high-quality d-pad or analog stick, the FightPad PRO really gives you the form/function to decimate those that stand in your path.

 

The fightpad looks hideous.  Everything else is cool.

It should make a good donor Pcb for custom sticks and last gen upgrades.

Yeah.  In that case, hope they're cheap.

60 bucks.

Too expensive!

This reminds me of when I said the headphones were too expensive.  
Tacos was disappointed in me.  

This really makes me wonder if I should wait until the story mode is out to get the game, then again I feel like if I want to stand even the slightest chance of getting somewhat decent at the multiplayer portion of this game I have to be there day 1. Hmm, decisions decisions.

This really makes me wonder if I should wait until the story mode is out to get the game, then again I feel like if I want to stand even the slightest chance of getting somewhat decent at the multiplayer portion of this game I have to be there day 1. Hmm, decisions decisions.

There will be story of the characters and all at launch like previous SF.

The new thing (the new for a SF game) will be the expansion with a new cinematic story mode in June.

Not sure if it's new.  Street Fighter 4 original had video endings/intros.  I never finished the game with everyone (In any of the Street Fighter 4s) but supposedly the stories interconnect.

For the first time in franchise history, we are creating a cinematic story experience that takes players deep into the Street Fighter action and mythology through beautifully rendered cutscenes.

There's only going to be one release of the game anyways.  No point in waiting.  Get some replay in the summer.

The final beta will run from January 30 at 12:01 AM PT (8:01 AM GMT) until January 31, at 19:00 PT (February 1, 3:00 AM GMT).

SFIV did have the normal stories like old SF... it is most picture panels or little animations than cinematic.

The new one is different more like MKX stories.

More PC data mining leaks? God can people not just leave that stuff alone and let the game keep some surprises?

Devs should expect this stuff by now. Clean up the asset folder before packaging!

-Alex coming in March.
-One new character per month until September.
-Spectator mode after the launch
-Challenges on March.
-Characters will cost 100.000 Fight Money or 600 Zenny

Street Fighter V: Alex y Tienda Online en marzo - MeriStation.com (http://www.meristation.com/pc/noticias/street-fighter-v-alex-modo-desafio-y-tienda-online-en-marzo/2027057/2108899)

BTW PS3 sticks compatible.

Famitsu's Review for Street Fighter V - 10/8/8/9 [35/40]

How does that compare with the others?

How does that compare with the others?

SFIV got 34/40.

So my Ssf4 stick will work?

PS3 sticks mostly worked.  It just required a controller plugged in.  Qanba sticks didn't work though.

So it's amazing

You were right, Kryta. Ono was trolling us. Alex is the first new character and he's coming next month.

Awesome, because I spent 50 bucks putting bad dog buttons and a sweet stick in it. I'm glad I don't have to spend more.

You see Raven, I'm always right.  Now get back to the bedroom!
Yeah, Skullgirls dev made a PS3 to PS4 stick driver.  It's just that for whatever reason no one but them actually implement it right.  So there's a time out and a controller has to be plugged in to use the home button and a few more things I think.

Review copies are out. Internet personalities have been told that they're allowed to stream the game starting today but only VS mode.

Nice.

So who's everyone going to use?  I was going to try Karin, but they got rid of her rekkas.  Put it in V-trigger mode only.  Might try out Mika, or Cammy.  But Cammy had no reach when I tried her in the beta, it was really screwing me up.

Ryu and chun li.

Ruy, Ken and Nash.

Waiting Guile.

Edit - Zangief to crush noobies.

Nice.

So who's everyone going to use?  I was going to try Karin, but they got rid of her rekkas.  Put it in V-trigger mode only.  Might try out Mika, or Cammy.  But Cammy had no reach when I tried her in the beta, it was really screwing me up.

Who's getting it day 1?

Who's getting it day 1?

I wasn't going to get it after they toned down some animations because they were concerned about offending people. Then I saw all of the extra outfits. dog and natural pines for days. Apparently they weren't that concerned. Laura looks like a Brazilian joker in her second costume and every one of Cammy's costumes has her lower half exposed with fabric crammed between her cheeks. I figure if Capcom is still willing to go that far with outfits at least, then they still have backbone. Especially when the Feminazis and Beta Male White Knights tried to push to have the outfits toned down. So I decided that offset the changes for me and I pre-ordered last night.

Nice.

So who's everyone going to use?  I was going to try Karin, but they got rid of her rekkas.  Put it in V-trigger mode only.  Might try out Mika, or Cammy.  But Cammy had no reach when I tried her in the beta, it was really screwing me up.

Sounds like we have enough people hereally that's getting the game, we could hang out talk and have a few rounds.

Who's getting it day 1?

I'm getting it day -5.

Anyone know who's doing the art?  It looks so familiar but I can't quite put my finger on it.

You need to spoiler tag stuff like this, dude. It may just be a fighting game but you're still ruining it for people who didn't want to know before they played.

Sorry.

Can somebody edit it? I'm on phone right now.

Hello,

We're contacting you about order #. We recently learned there will be a delay receiving the product from the manufacturer that may prevent us from delivering "Street Fighter V - PlayStation 4 Standard Edition" by February 16. We're very sorry about this.

This doesn't sound good.

My game shows 16 hours.

I'm trying to find some reviews.

9/10 Street Fighter V Review - Hadoken.net (http://hadoken.net/street-fighter-v-review/)
9/10 http://www.readersgambit.com/street-fighter-v-ps4-review/

What do you want to know about it?

You need to spoiler tag stuff like this, dude. It may just be a fighting game but you're still ruining it for people who didn't want to know before they played.

Definitely going to need a fight stick before I go online. Doing Cammy's V-Trigger into Spiral Arrow and then Cannon Spike right after isn't "difficult" but it'd be a lot easier to pull off since it's a 'Z' motion.

The voice actors list? How is that a spoiler o.O?

What's even the point of user reviews if users making reviews are all idiots?

0 because my favorite XXX characters is not available.

PS. I'm sure there are comments like that.

Soneone on meta, who even clearly admitted that he didn't buy the game, gave it a 2 because it's missing a character.

And among the other red scores there is:

1 guy that gave SFV a 1, while giving XCX and Skyward Sworda 10 and Mario Maker 9.
1 guy that gave SFV a 3, Killzone Shadowfall, I:SS and Knack 1s and 2s, while giving Ryse, Dead Rising 3, Forza 5 and Titanfall 9s&10s.
1 guy that gave SFV a 0, while giving Rise of the Tomb Raider and Sunset Overdrive a 10
1 guy that gave SFV a 1, while giving XCX and fudgy Devils Third a 10
1 guy that gave SFV a 1, Gravity Rush Remastered a 0 and Halo 5 a 10
and 1 idiot that calls SFV "not a game" and gave it a 0

what is the point of this shame?

Oh wow the fanboys are strong with the user reviews. I don't think I've ever seen something this bad before.

Average is 3.5 and the top 17 helpful reviews are negative. The top 40 helpful reviews average to 1.35

Crazy.

Ugh. People on Twitch streams calling out for Cammy to be nerfed. What the fudge is wrong with these idiots? They pissed and moaned that pretty much every character was nerfed compared to how they played initially and then want MORE nerfs? Why aren't you retards asking to have other characters buffed? It's fudgy pathetic. They've already heavily limited your combo options in this game and you want them to dumb it down even more? Cammy is good but she's not god tier. That's mostly people just not reacting fast enough to her speed and cross-ups. FANG, on the other hand, is probably the one character Capcom may need to consider toning down. His poison is battleship and it reminds me a lot of Cinder from Killer Instinct.

I played survival last night and had a lot of fun with that.  But did they nerf normal from ss4? It seems way to easy. I'm going to step it up to hard tonight.

I found all character balanced for now... of course you need to chance fighting style to win over them that is amazing and different from SFIV.
Maybe the last 3 battles are normal because the CPU AI before that is really weak :D

heck is hard like a fudge.

PS. C'mon sensor word... H e l l is the name of the difficult lol

Been playing some online matches about 15 now and have only lost 2.

Hmm online must be broken

You can turn censorship off. Though I really don't agree with "heck" being censored. That's a little silly.

Anyone feel ryu fireball recovery is too long?

It feels fine to me. I'm able to V-Trigger, fire off a heavy punch fireball, and then immediately follow up with a CA fireball and hit them with it from full screen. I think they just want to give other characters a slightly larger window of opportunity to punish fireball spam.

Which I feel closes the old trick of spaming and making them jump into a spinning upper cut. Now I have to spam, and fake to pull it off. Which is fine I guess. But still odd considering I've been able to do that is every street fighter that I can remeber.

Jump kick into spinning upper cut works like a champ tho.

Can you forward dash with ryu?

Don't think so. The best way I've found to get in quick is light spinning kick. Not sure about the recovery time on that, though. Might open you up or cause you to miss the uppercut timing.

I guess Ryu's Hadoken is fine.

I just found odd to see Ryu using lighting vs Ken fire... Ryu was fire in previous games but I guess it makes sense.

Ryu's denjin hadouken was lightning based.  They probably followed with that.  Though, I haven't checked it out yet, but does Ryu's ex hadouken get flame?

Ex get Lightning in Ryu.
Ex get Flame on Ken.

All moves.

In previous games Ryu got flame Hadoken... now everything is flame with Ken and lighting with Ryu.

Now that I remember, in Pocket Fighter/ Super Gem Fighter Mini Mix, Ryu's attacks were lightning based when they were charged up.

Anyone want to play?

is cammy top tier now?

I don't know about top tier but she's close. Her speed, cross-ups, and ability to move through zoning fireballs with her v-skill makes her difficult to deal with if you don't have really good reaction speed. Though from what I've seen, she suffers in match-ups with grapplers.

She's so easy to use and pull combos with. 80 percent of my matches in survival have at least one dizzy. I can go 3-4 matches without needing health. and I get wrecked when I fight online against her.

I don't know about top tier but she's close. Her speed, cross-ups, and ability to move through zoning fireballs with her v-skill makes her difficult to deal with if you don't have really good reaction speed. Though from what I've seen, she suffers in match-ups with grapplers.

She's one of the more popular characters for high level play. That's for sure. Though it probably helps that she's one of the most visually appealing characters, too.

Karin is awesome in the right hands. Her combos are longer than most, she has some nice rushdown moves, and her air juggle game is probably the best of all current characters. She can long combo you into a critical art. It's sick.

I don't practice enough in fighting games to be good at them. Plus, I don't have a stick. Using a gamepad for a game like this is a bad idea, typically.

I can attest to that :P.  I have trouble against Birdie. 
I wanna learn Karin too, but her start ups rely on that dash punch.  Which is annoying to pull off cause you have to do the dash motion and then punch.  Annoying to time without practice.  I was actually thinking of using Laura as a secondary character.    Her grapples are pretty fun to use.

Funny you say that; my friend who used to always use an arcade stick actually bought that hori pad cause he doesn't want to use a stick anymore.  Even me, I've never been good at using an arcade stick.  I need a controller.

Yeah, Karin is definitely a character where timing is very important. The upshot being that once you have her timing down, punishing people is not only very easy for her but incredibly satisfying when nearly every single punish can be turned into a nasty combo. As for Laura, I'm not sure what to think about her yet. She's getting a lot of play right now but I have a feeling a lot of it is, once again, her visual appeal and that she'll probably end up lower tier in the end. Most of the wins I've seen with her involve people being stupid on dealing with a grapple character. Like a Ryu not zoning her more or a Cammy charging in but not retreating when she didn't find an opening within a couple seconds.
I'm terrible with gamepads in fighting games like this one or KI. I just can't get the timings right and when multiple punch or kick buttons are needed it screws me up. I can do it but just not nearly as good with a stick.

I come bearing currently rare positive news about SFV

Street Fighter V is Already Breaking Registration Records at Evo 2016 | Shoryuken (http://shoryuken.com/2016/02/22/street-fighter-v-is-already-breaking-registration-records-at-evo-2016/)

I come bearing currently rare positive news about SFV

Street Fighter V is Already Breaking Registration Records at Evo 2016 | Shoryuken (http://shoryuken.com/2016/02/22/street-fighter-v-is-already-breaking-registration-records-at-evo-2016/)

Yeah I think Street Fighter 5 will be a good starting point.  When streams started getting big and stuff, Street Fighter 4's accessibility was pretty much gone.  Way too hard to get at a good level of play.  It's actually harder to get good at Street Fighter 4 than it is Street Fighter 3.  Hopefully Street Fighter 5 keeps the movelist easy to perform and rely on tactics.  Street Fighter 4, unintentionally, relied way to much on execution.  

Street Fighter 4 just never did it for me. I don't know what it was but I was always so put off by it and never even really enjoyed watching it.

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Wow, look at these early designs:

Early Street Fighter V Design Had Ryu in Bandages - Hadoken.net (http://hadoken.net/early-street-fighter-v-design-had-ryu-in-bandages/)

Prepare your cash for premium costumes.

Prepare what cash?  Costumes can be bought with fight money.

Prepare what cash?  Costumes can be bought with fight money.

From what I heard, not all. Some premium costumes may require real money.

When was this said?

I get the driveclub vive from this game.

Everyone nuggets on it, then when everything is there that they shame on it for they won't say a thing about it.

It's still the best fighting game this gen so far. Can't wait till it gets better.

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From the FB page

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 Full patch info: http://www.capcom-unity.com/haunts/b...update-details (http://www.capcom-unity.com/haunts/blog/2016/03/10/new-character-alex-and-sfv-update-details)

 

I'm having little time to play but yesterday night I tried Zangief (it was my secondary player in SFIV for fun and free up the head).

It was a bit weird... seems like the grab range is small now and some moves I do do grab fail most times lol

I need to learn again.

Man this game needs some positive news aka a march update ewlease that also fixes some of the shame people have been complaining about outside of missing content soon, the negativity around this is just piling up on the Street Fighter subreddits currently.

They're just jealous cause they're wake up shoryukens aren't working.

I'm hating playing against chesters PC users (they can use ALT + F4 to lag my side lol).

I know there are legit PC players but I will turn on the only PS4 option.

RQ is fudgy horrible too.

Capcom please.

Those dang chesters!!  >:(

They're punishing rage quiters hard.  Easy fix for the lag is to add an offline mode.  But I doubt that's going to happen.  

I thought that you can play offline, you just don't earn any points, or am I wrong? Also how would an offline mode fix multiplayer lag?

There's no way to actually turn off online.  You can play offline, you just can't actually get to it without turning off PSN or something.  It wouldn't fix the multiplayer lag (Which honestly isn't bad), it'd fix the offline mode.  It takes a long time to load when not online because it constantly talks to the server.  So survival, couch coop, etc, will be smooth.  You don't get points offline, which goes back to them making an offline mode.

You can login/logout in the 3rd button on left side.

You can play SFV offline but you won't receive FM.

The hell is Capcom waiting for? Only two weeks left in the month and they still haven't given us a release date for the update nor a character trailer for Alex.

The hell is Capcom waiting for? Only two weeks left in the month and they still haven't given us a release date for the update nor a character trailer for Alex.

I imagine they might just tell people the release date a day before the patch comes out, same with the trailer. Or they might even do an "out right now" announcement.

They probably still have online issues they haven't figured out.

Ugh. I just hope Ibuki or Juri are next. I couldn't care less for Guile or Urien. I wouldn't be bothered if Balrog was next, though. I want to see how they handle his gameplay this time.

Well going by the trailer it seems that Balrog and Guile will play a role in the storymode so I'd guess those two will be in the game before June.

The order is already defined.

(http://www.buttonczech.cz/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/sf5_dlc.jpg)

Wow, anyone watching the stream? Crazy upset with Tokido.  Looks like Ryu can be viable.

I was just happy that SonicFox got beat. What made it even better is that he was getting worked and then he "accidentally" hit the share button.

Now we have people barking because no Alex trailer was shown, I've seriously seen people say that they are going to sell the game tomorrow because an update that was promised for march doesn't have a trailer on the 20th, as if you couldn't easily just do a "out right now" announcement with a patch. *shaking my head*

6.6GB

The update? Is it live? 

Is the store live?  I haven't been on since last night.  I won't be able to get on until tonight.

I'm having a hard time with ryu's 8th trial.

I'm having a hard time with ryu's 8th trial.

GAF lol

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CevPrzbWAAAc3YF.jpg)

F u chun li.

Many a young man have yearned to be inside THAT fortune cookie.

I can't believe I need to beat Survival again to get colora to the new costumes.

fudge Capcom.

If you're playing as Laura, Cammy, Chun-Li, or R. Mika... you'll get no sympathy from me. The eye candy alone is worth doing it again.

I use Laura XD
P.S. why are you being a woman, why aren't you online playing Street Fighter?

Where were you women yesterday?  I had some peeps in a room playing.  There were 4 open slots.

Gotta let me know this shame.

Has anyone been able to do Cammy's last trail?  

Capcom has released the screenshots on their facebook account, but they were taken down shortly after being uploaded - the release could have been a mistake. Guile will be joining the Street Fighter V cast as the second post-launch DLC character. Enjoy the screenshots below.

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What's with all the daigo hate?

No clue.  What are people hating on him for?

Saying he's washed up. Didn't adapt well to 5.

I think I have to drop Laura.  She doesn't have enough tools.

I dunno. She's got the tools to hold my interest....

I mean in a fight, not in bed.

Those aren't the same to you?  :o

No.  Unless it's with you.

Anyone else been watching ComboBreaker?

No I was at Anime North.  What's happening?

People are playing fighting games.

Ibuki is the next DLC character for SF5. NOT Balrog.

And no Capcom blog post to explain details and release date? Come on Capcom, you should know by now that that's going to piss your fanbase off.

It is today/tomorrow.

Every time a character trailer is announced it pop up at Tuesday (it is already Tuesday in Japan... that is what my today means).

PS. Ohhhhh EU get her on Wednesday I guess.

That actually looks sick.

While it loads, are they putting in Balrog?

Looks like they are finally starting to step their game up, let's hope for them that the update doesn't break shame.

Also grade-A discussion on the topic on r/PS4 "Why isn't character XY in this game? Every Street Fighter character should be in this game already"

I sense this will be on sale in EU PSN this week with the japanese game sale
good timing with the update

Funny thing is, out of 44 characters in Ultra, only maybe 15 got used.  Why put them all in haphazardly?  Hell out of the 18 characters in the game now, only 4 are used.  Of those 4 they all happen to play the same which leads to "all characters play the same".  No, only 4 characters play the same, everyone just picks those same 4 characters.  Too many followers in NA, it's why Japanese players always win tournaments.  On another note, Tokido destroyed Infiltration yesterday.  Holy shame.  He parried Nash's command throw super.  Crazy shame.  

Would be neat, with the story mode in, I'm now more or less ready to get the game, still wouldn't hurt to save a couple bucks.
The fact that this stuff only pops up in r/PS4 threads and not in places like r/streetfighter or something comparable, really shows that it's really just casuals asking these questions. More core players seem to realize that it would not only be boring to only always have the same characters in every game from the get go, but that with a huge roster a lot of fighters it would be difficult for not a lot of characters to be similar and for most people to not just stick with the small subset of top tier characters.

Also yeah, I didn't watch it myself, but I see a lot of positivity around the tournament online, apparently the best SFV tournament yet.

Yeah they had Xavier Woods from WWE and Kenny Omega from New Japan Pro Wrestling at the event.  Kenny Omega is actually pretty good.  He even customized his fight stick.  I didn't watch too many matches though.  I missed most of Saturday and Sunday.  But I caught that final.  It was crazy.  Like, Tokido made Infiltration his baby.

I see a lot of FGC people complaining on Shoryuken and stuff.  New character comes out "I don't like this character, when's X coming?".  "I sold my copy, it's boring, I'm going to stick with Killer Instinct".  Really? Killer Instinct?  The game that released with 9 characters and has been overcharging you with every "season" and has nothing else in it.  The best is "They made Street Fighter 5 too easy to execute moves... praise King of Fighters 14 for making it easier to execute moves."  Really?  You're praising one game for the stuff you're shitting on the other for?  Also did you ever stop to think there's a reason no one plays Ultra anymore?  Hell Marvel gets more play and that game's broken as shame.  "When is this game going to die?"  Seriously?  The fighting game community dies with Street Fighter.  Mortal Kombat is dead.  Killer Instict is dead.  Blazblue, Guilty Gear, KOF are niche fighters that don't perform well.  Hell SNK gave Atlus publishing rights to KOF because it makes no money.  Tekken is on a huge decline that Tekken 7 may or may not fix.  Virtua Fighter is dead.  DOA is dead.  Smash is the only thing that isn't dead and unless you're a brainwashed Nintendo fan (You have to be since you still play Melee), Smash is nothing more than an elaborate game of pinball.

Story Mode up to download.

Wait... what?

You can't play it.  It's a "pre" download.  Where you download something before you download it.

I have no download for the story mode...

OMG! I quit! #Evo2016 pic.twitter.com/bvGdXJGWVG

— Joey Cuellar (@EvilMrWizard) July 1, 2016

OMG! I quit! #Evo2016 pic.twitter.com/bvGdXJGWVG

— Joey Cuellar (@EvilMrWizard) July 1, 2016

Wut?

Man ki playets seem salty over this.

Over what?

Because they think sf5 dosent deserve the amount of players its getting. Ki only has 550.

http://shoryuken.com/2016/07/01/stre...from-evo-2016/ (http://shoryuken.com/2016/07/01/street-fighter-v-to-be-televised-live-on-espn2-from-evo-2016/)

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On Sunday, July 17, ESPN2 is set to televise Evo's Street Fighter V World Championship live from the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. Coverage for the event will begin at 7 PM PDT (10 PM EDT).

 

We're aware of users exploiting cheats to unlock in-game entitlements.
These users will be identified and subject to an account review.

— Street Fighter (@StreetFighter) July 14, 2016

We're aware of users exploiting cheats to unlock in-game entitlements.
These users will be identified and subject to an account review.

— Street Fighter (@StreetFighter) July 14, 2016

You should see the reactions to this on reddit, people that used an exploit to "only get the colors" that just so happens to also give 1.3 million fight money, which is enough for 13 characters, are now surprised and legitimately pissed that Capcom is planning to take measures against them. I love that these guys actually have the audacity to pretend that they were never going to use that fight money.

I mean what did people expect?

Well some gamers are really thatt dumb lol

BTW I have a huge critic about the colors that are unlocked per costume and not character... I'm fine having to play the Survival to get all colors to one characters but I want to use these colors in all his costumes... the requiriment to finish Survival again to get colors to that specific costume is ridiculous.

Well some gamers are really thatt dumb lol

BTW I have a huge critic about the colors that are unlocked per costume and not character... I'm fine having to play the Survival to get all colors to one characters but I want to use these colors in all his costumes... the requiriment to finish Survival again to get colors to that specific costume is ridiculous.

So looks like Capcom dun goofed and people are mad... once again.

For one their solution to the color situation really seems to be to just make them purchasable, no word on price range or if you'll be able to use fight money, but yeah weak that that's the best thing they could come up with. (There have however been parts of the community that openly asked Capcom to just make colors purchasable, that should be noted.)

The other thing is the CPT DLC pack they are releasing, which people consider varying degrees of overpriced at $25. It includes 3 costumes (worth $6 a piece), a stage (worth $10), a new color for each fighter and a couple titles or whatever they are called. Part of the revenue from this will go to the CPT pots but this still seems like a pretty steep prize for what's there.

Other than that they announced that Chun-Li and Mika's beach outfits are now available, as well as that they are working on Nostalgic skins, like SFIII skins for Ibuki and Alex, snd the Bison stage from SFII coming to SFV.

Overall,...  yeah I'm not really sure what hole Capcom is trying to dig itself in here.

The rumours was that Sony wasn't okaying being able to purchase fight money.  Like, the other money, not the actual fight money.  So Capcom abandoned that and went with this purchase scheme.  I personally think they should just put a way to grind money.  55 fight money for winning an online match isn't going to be anywhere near enough for anything.  

Yeah, weren't they going to introduce daily challenges? What ever happened to that?

September update :P.  I'm guessing they're going to work on that stuff once they get the characters out.  Probably finish up the game, then announce the next season's worth of characters.  Like Capcom doesn't have a lot of people working on this game.  My friend told me they only had one person working on the netcode.

It's kinda ridiculous really, makes you worry how this thing's going to continue. If things don't start looking up after year two I could easily see Capcom dropping the whole game. Or making it F2P.

It's already free to play...

With a $60 (or whatever the prize is currently) entry fee...

You could say the same for Guild Wars and other MMOs that gave you a charge up front and went free to play later.

What's the point you're trying to get at?  It looks like Capcom is reverting back to their Street Fighter 4 pay model.  Which is the pay model for every game released post 2009.

My point? That iat this point it's not a free to play game, that's all.

And I don't think they'll go back to the SFIV model of the Super and Ultra versions being mandatory if you don't want to be left behind.

I meant DLC.  Costume packs and such.  They won't make Super.  Though from ignorance from my friends I hear, seems like they should.  "Ibuki's coming out soon.  Go buy Street Fighter 5." response?  "I'll wait for Super".  It overall irks me because Capcom was going to essentially give you all characters for free, negating the "need" for Super.  Instead people were barking and complaining.  Cause having to pay 40 bucks more for Super instead of grinding out fight money (Capcom and Sony failed here), is a better option?  On another note, I'm worried about Capcom saying they're putting the DLC money into the Capcom Cup pot.  Unless it gets to 1 million next year, is Sony abandoning the game?  When a few of these problems is their fault?  (I'm assuming Sony pushed to get the game out the door unfinished).

I guess you forgot where "free to play" came about.  It was used when MMOs charged you a monthly fee.  That monthly fee model was broken with "Free to play" games like Guild Wars , which charged you to purchase the game.  It's evolved since.  I just look at it differently :P

I don't think Sony pushed the game out the door unfinished, they've been delaying games left and right this gen, I don't think this one would have been a huge deal to them if Capcom decided to delay it. I could imagine that Sony didn't want to give Capcom more money to extend the dev time, but then again Capcom could have picked up that tab.

I'm really not sure what they are going to do with this game, if and how they'll change the DLC system, or how long they'll be able to support it the way they are going about it right now. It really is a shame because looking at SFV makes my imagination race thinking about all the cool things you could do with it, but Capcom just really seems to be taking 2 steps back every time they are taking a step forward.

Back when the game launched I thought for sure that I'd get it once the story mode hits, because I thought it'd be fixed and more complete by then, but somehow even now tons of shame in this game still doesn't work as intended and there don't seem to be any fixes in sight, which makes my desire to get the game just get smaller.

Well other than arcade mode being split up into survival and story, the game's "complete".  Everything works well.  I'm not sure what problems there are other than "expansions" which, well I've seen worse DLC schemes (Looking at you Warner Bros).  I mean, once the challenges start I'm sure it'll be fine, but the game's there.

Though I think Sony might have forced the game this time.  They did put up the fight money for Capcom Cup this year.  Street Fighter 5 was the center point.  Things would have been ruined if it was for Ultra again.

Well you have Arcade mode missing as well as Survival apparently being super bad while actually being fairly easily fixable, a lot of the stat stuff doesn't work as far as I know, the rage quitting solution still isn't ideal, I'm not gonna talk about the whole 8 frame thing since that is more of a high level problem, but you have other technical stuff that should be fixable like load times, then you have the daily challenges that are still missing in action. I'm sure that other people could list more stuff, but like I said I don't own the game and am just listing stuff that I've heard repeatedly.

8 frame of lag doesn't matter and it's more of "I should be able to punish this" vs "Oh I guess that doesn't work".  It doesn't affect execution.  You lost cause you suck.  Load times aren't long...  It's as slow as Ultra installed on a hard drive or any of the arcade versions.  The game is very technically sound and is honestly Capcom's finest work.  There isn't a better fighting game out there and from the looks of things there isn't going to be one until Street Fighter 6.  I'm angry about arcade, but go play survival.  It's no less fair than arcade mode.  I'm disappointed with the lack of challenges,  but they were never in Street Fighter before so it's not missing.  Character training challenges are in.  Literally only arcade is missing.

Juri coming at the end of the month according to Ono.

Sad.  I did not like the way she played at all.  Making her spin kick a "stock" move was stupid.  I was really looking forward to her cause I was imagining the crazy shame they could have done with Street Fighter 5's mechanics.  Like, she plays a lot like a Street Fighter 5 character in Street Fighter 4, but the way they slowed her down.  Really disappointed.  They killed all her combos.  The censorship doesn't help either.

She'll get adjusted. There was a fair amount of feedback on how she played. At the very least, Capcom did say Juri and Urien weren't quite done in the story mode. There's hope.

Yeah. The censorship on Juri made ZERO sense. It was like, "Oh, we can't show that much cleavage. So let's cover her up. Okay, now onto the swimsuit costumes!"

The latex just looks way better than bare skin.

I don't mind it either way. She's still sexy as hell. It just doesn't make any sense to cover her up and then right after start introducing more skimpy outfits. Karin in a bikini and Laura's first battle costume being fairly revealing in the same patch. Chun Li's swimsuit costume that was just released has a pretty eye catching top. I guess I'm just confused as to what kind of line Capcom is drawing for itself when it comes to sexy and suggestive. Because it looks like the line was made by someone with Parkinson's disease.

Maybe Capcom just decided it looks better that way and wasn't trying to censor anything. It's a pretty common opinion that the version in the game looks better than the mods made to reveal the skin after all.

She'll get adjusted. There was a fair amount of feedback on how she played. At the very least, Capcom did say Juri and Urien weren't quite done in the story mode. There's hope.

Yeah. The censorship on Juri made ZERO sense. It was like, "Oh, we can't show that much cleavage. So let's cover her up. Okay, now onto the swimsuit costumes!"

Fun fact: Fuudo was required to use the "Story 1" costume after his first match because the default was deemed too revealing by ESPN.

— Ryan Harvey (@fubarduck) July 18, 2016

Funny because the cernsorship makes sense after see the Mika default outfit getting censored at tournaments with TV exposure...

Fun fact: Fuudo was required to use the "Story 1" costume after his first match because the default was deemed too revealing by ESPN.

— Ryan Harvey (@fubarduck) July 18, 2016

I think Capcom will play safe with the default Juri and only abuse with alt costumes.

I guess the question is bigger than only Capcom doing weird things.

@Raven
Apparently they got rid of Cammy's nipple silhouettes from the game in the last update.  I didn't actually check to verify yet.

I'm okay with this on the grounds that it anatomically made no sense and no other female character had nipple silhouette. It's not like Cammy was permanently cold or aroused. An incredibly tight outfit like she wears would not allow for something like that unless her two natural pines were a rather firm silicon in that shape.

So, as I said, in that sense I'm fine with it. The kind of things that upset me are these moral hangups that force camera angle changes and outfits to be redone because someone can't handle a gesture, seeing a body from a certain angle, or a character dressed provactively.

#SDCC2016 #Juri trailer.
She's available July 26th 5pm PST.#SFV pic.twitter.com/NnvmsedxSZ

— BornFree @ SDCC (@BornFreeTweets) July 21, 2016

Never mind, it's sexier this way.

Whos who?

Daily challenges yay

Yay, we can now grind for 50 fight money!  Note: I haven't read the article yet so I'm being pessimistic.

I didn't understand the color thing but looks like they are fixing it.

So you guys remember that thing about Capcom saying they would crack down on people that used the 1-round-survival exploits to get the colors and how people bitched that they would be punished even though "they just wanted the colors"?

Well, looks like punishments are rolling out and it is Capcom taking away the fight money that was earned with the exploit, not the colors, not even the stuff you bought with the FM you cheated yourself to, but just the FM. Guess what? People are still barking. LMAO

What happened to "I just wanted the colors"?

Urien, Arcade mode, and other stuff are coming September 22nd.  So that's soon.

Vs. CPU mode, not Arcade. Also they are finally adding daily challenges.

Yeah the headline said arcade, read it after.  Though if it's a 10 match, 2 round vs random CPU, then that is arcade mode.  Though it might just be survival without a death penalty.  In which case, it's essentially arcade.  I doubt they'd do a mode where you just fight a single person since you could do that in training.

Capcom is rolling back the update.  Still like to know what this was supposed to stop.  Fight money or mods?

Lost my first online tournament 3-0 today :(

I just watched Brolynho sweep Infiltration. Two matches. All four rounds. How did he manage it? Doing exactly what we talked about during EVO. He kept pressure on Infiltration. He shut down his V-Reversal, made it mean little when he used it, and kept him actively defensive. Giving up only one critical art. If you're a good player and you stay in Infiltration's face while shutting down his one-trick pony playstyle, you can stomp him.

Gonna be in a tournament later on tonight at 8 (In roughly an hour).  Probably going to get bodied in the first round.  

Link to stream: Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/neorussell)

P.S. tournament is online only, so @Raven won't see my sexy body.

Watch CapcomFighters on Twitch (https://clips.twitch.tv/capcomfighters/AnnoyingAnteaterPipeHype)

Ono: Nobody said that Akuma's in (Street Fighter 5) *laughs*; we actually never said that a new character is coming at all (https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2016/nov/23/ono-nobody-said-akumas-street-fighter-5-laughs-we-actually-never-said-new-character-coming-all/)

Weird

Indeed.  

There's been rumblings for Marvel 4

Capcom denied those, but yeah who knows.

You know what I love about Street Fighter 5, and now season 2, it exposes all the scammers.  *Bohoo I can't easily win against new people*.  Yeah you're losing to tactics now.  Get gud.

"Nash got hit the hardest" no people caught on to your scams and Nash got exposed for being mid tier.  Right @Raven?

Fang got his damage output raised and his V-trigger improved.  Nerfed?

Wild shoryukens still work.  You just can't do them blindly, and you have to use meter now if you want to get invincibility.  This goes for all characters who have "wakeup dragon punches", Cammy, etc.  This gets rid of the scrub wake up DP.  

"Not a fan of paying money for cooler costume" okay, get fight money.  You can get 20k a month if you do the ridiculously easy challenges.

"I don't want to main Akuma", or you suck?  Akuma's frickin broken in this game.

"I haven't been able to find a main" = "I haven't been able to find counter picks or scammers".  Sounds like a balanced game to me.

Jesus, dude just stop.

Also there's literally just one costume per character that you can actually buy with FM, everything else is cash only.

Stop what?  Infiltration made his name by counter picking and scamming.  Guess what?  You can't counter pick or scam in Street Fighter 5.  He's complaining Akuma's regular costume is his alt that you don't need to pay money for.  So his complaints are invalid.  And why are you complaining?  You don't have the game, nor have you ever played it.

Stop being a Capcom fanboy. I'm pretty sure Infiltration spent a teeny, tiny bit more time with Season 2 and Street Fighter V in general than you have, so I find it a bit rich that a random like you is accusing him of being nothing but a scammer that's complaining because he can't get easy wins anymore. Seriously don't you think that's a bit loaded of you?

And no he's complaining that Akumas nostalgia costume can only be bought with real cash, which is true.

I would have bought the game by now, but instead of improving the general game experience and properly addressing community problems Capcom apparently rather wants to release more paid costumes to milk the people they still have playing the game and I'm not interested in supporting that shame. So I'm complaining because people that act as if everything is just peachy with SFV and that just berate people if they criticize the game do nothing but work against Capcom actually improving the freaking thing.

And?  Have you watched Infiltration play?  You know what he does?  He counter picks.  The most boring pro match I ever watched was the semi finals at Evo last year with Infiltration because he counter picked with Chun Li and had no fudgy clue how to use her.  It looked like noobs were playing the game for the first time.  He was scamming with Charlie, now that he was found out "I don't know who to use" well no shame.  The game's balanced, there's no counter picking.  There's a tier list yeah, but anyone can beat anyone.  The only mistake they made was changing Laura's command grab priority.  That shame will always hit now.

The game is fine, or have you never played Street Fighter?  I have all but 2 Street Fighter games (The movie and Super Street Fighter 4 3D).  They're all barebones and this is the 4th most content filled game.  I bought the game fresh from Steam this past Christmas from the sale.  I put in 9 hours.  3 of which was playing with mods at settings, at most (probably 2).  One hour was maybe spent online in the PC version, if that.  That's 5 hours of just messing around with stories and survival.  That doesn't include the 4 hour story mode.  Oh yeah that's right, a story mode.  For comparison Uncharted 2's single player is only 7 hours and that's it (Game of last gen I might add).  The "only" thing that's missing is arcade mode.  Which you get by playing Survival or vs CPU (random).  Is arcade mode more easier to use?  Yes.  What else is wrong?  Everyone complaining about the balance because they suck and the game is balanced.  This isn't Marvel 2 or 3, or Third Strike, or Ultra that's broken as shame.  The people complaining about the core game are complaining because they're losing against newer players.  Good, you're not winning because you know how to do a combo better than someone else.  You're losing cause you're tactics suck.  Oh the network is terrible, go fix it.  The only problems I've ever had with my network is because my service provider only has shaming options for their modems and suck and doing NAT 2.  I have issues outside of Street Fighter, with voice chat and shareplay, etc because of this shaming modem/router I have.  My friend switched back to one of their old ones, and I bought a router.  No issues.  I even play against my friend who's in the UK right now.  We play the game fine and he's across the frickin ocean.  Maybe, just maybe, there's something wrong with your network.  Plus Street Fighter isn't the only game with network issues.  There will always be network issues.  "They don't punish cheaters" yeah, so don't a lot of many other games and they just implemented something to shame the cheaters.  "They charge too much for costumes" so does every other game, by that metric, don't buy Call of Duty, don't buy Uncharted, don't buy anything.  "I don't wanna pay money for fighters", well guess what?  Street Fighter 5 is the only recent fighting game that doesn't charge you for new characters.  "This should have been F2P", you know what else is free to play?  Dead or Alive, it's 100 fudgy dollars for the season pass.  For one!  There's 3 season passes.  But hey, only Street Fighter is wrong.  Or what about Guilty Gear charging you 60 fudgy dollars to an update?  I don't want to even turn on Xrd anymore because they released Revelator shortly after.  Yes you have to do a little bit of grinding to get characters, which is what I've been doing recently, because I want to.  If I didn't buy the extra stages or anything, I'd have more than enough fight money for all the characters, and Capcom implemented weekly challenges.  Right now you can get 10k fight money.  But hey, Street Fighter is the only one implementing these "shaming practices" right?  Not Activision, or EA, or Ubisoft, or Sony, or Microsoft, of fudgy Nintendo.  The same fudgy Nintendo that can do no wrong is charging you 15 fudgy dollars for 3 dollars of plastic and what would be 2 dollars of DLC.  Or better yet, they're charging you for fudgy cards at almost the same price as the plastic that does the same thing.  You don't wanna buy the extra DLC?  Don't, don't buy any DLC that's cosmetic for any other game that exists, which is all of them past the year 2010.  Hell Gears 3 has the DLC on the fudgy disc, but no one's complaining.  You're not playing, what's the best playing fighting game released (I haven't tried Tekken 7 yet), because you have a choice,. You have a fudgy choice, to not buy anything cosmetic.  I have a better suggestion, don't buy any game with "shaming" DLC.  I can assure you, you're not going to be playing much.

Here's a suggestion, take a step back, wait a couple hours and then read what you've just posted again, cause this right there is an utterly and absolutely absurd rant, full of childish deflections to other companies, as if these make Capcoms practices any better or as if they were defended by me or as if they are just happily accepted by everyone (if you think the DLC practices in other games haven't been decried by people then you're completely mistaken) and completely bogus comparisons like the Uncharted 2 one. Not only is the UC2 campaign more in the 10 hour range it also is of a significantly higher quality than what the forgettable mess of SFV's story mode was. And what do you mean by "that's it"? Surely you don't mean that that was everything that Uncharted 2 had, cause that would be patently false, since the game also came with 2 Coop and like 8 competitive MP modes.

And before you reply (if you even choose to do that, we could just end this here, cause I don't see this going anywhere) you can take a look at some of the things the community has been asking for for almost a year now that still haven't been adressed.

Reminder that with Season 2, Capcom hasn't still addressed the following : StreetFighter (https://www.reddit.com/r/StreetFighter/comments/5jcw7l/reminder_that_with_season_2_capcom_hasnt_still/)

I'm not not buying SFV because of it's shaming cosmetic DLC, though that certainly doesn't help, I'm not buying it because Capcom has been absolutely awful in adressing these types of things and are constantly prioritizing adding more paid cosmetic stuff over actually fixing issues like the load times for instance.

Twitch (https://www.twitch.tv/capcomfighters)

They're messing around with Helen.  I don't like the way she currently plays.  She's pretty much Decapre

I'd like to mess around with her...

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/61/0d/c0/610dc040a37a8722cafbe3775e6c0cd7.jpg)

...if you know what I mean!

YES!  You wanna learn her combos and the right button combinations

Here are the groups for #ELEAGUESFV
Prelims begin March 27. Who ya got?!?! pic.twitter.com/eD3lx1RAh4

— ELEAGUE (@EL) March 2, 2017

Here are the groups for #ELEAGUESFV
Prelims begin March 27. Who ya got?!?! pic.twitter.com/eD3lx1RAh4

— ELEAGUE (@EL) March 2, 2017

Christ. That lineup is fudgy insane. This is going to be one hell of a tournament.

Here are the groups for #ELEAGUESFV
Prelims begin March 27. Who ya got?!?! pic.twitter.com/eD3lx1RAh4

— ELEAGUE (@EL) March 2, 2017

Christ. That lineup is fudgy insane. This is going to be one hell of a tournament.

Wow. Ricki Ortiz did not play well at all.

At this rate, Gllty and Alex Valle are going to be eliminated.

Glty almost beat Daigo.  I was like... -_-

Right? I was all like, "Daigo, please!"

Yeah.  Glty of all people.
Feel bad for Valle.  I didn't watch back then but my buddy was telling me about him.  He was like so great, now he's only good.

Happens to a lot of people. A lot of factors. Age slows some people down. Different kinds of games some people respond better to. He also might not be as into it as he used to be. There is also the possibility that the playing field is more talented than it used to be. It's easy to shine if you're a 7 among a bunch of 5's.

I don't know why pros don't use Ken more.

I'll say I like this format.  Doing it soccer style where you play everyone and go through on points.

I'll say I like this format.  Doing it soccer style where you play everyone and go through on points.

reminds me of raven

reminds me of raven

Yeah. I never really felt like the whole "lose twice and you're out" thing was a good way to pit these players against each other. It creates too many possibilities that someone got lucky in their match ups.

Justin Wong has been playing like shame. I've watched him drop combos, failed to punish, and missed the confirm into a combo several times per match up.

Dhalsim has so many bad match ups. He's so reliant on good setups.

Valle's still in.  Nice

Yup. Gllty is done. No way for her to get out of elimination.

Oh dear god. Gllty's last match is against PR Balrog.

Eita's Ken just got his dog eaten by Snake Eyez's Zangief.

My niece came in so we had to watch Alvin and the Chipmunks.  Was it bad?

Gllty went 0-7. As expected with PR Balrog as her last match.
Snake Eyez was on point. It wasn't absolute devastation but Eita was soundly defeated.

Apparently Tokido feels like Group A is a joke.

Gootecks is such a joke.

I hope Wolfkrone has something fall on his fudgy head. I really can't stand him. Sad part is, he's probably going to beat Gootecks (who is a waste of an invitation) and secure a spot.

Gootecks eliminated.

I don't know did Wolfkrone do something so bad that K-Brad was in his face like that?  Running your mouth is one thing, beat him in the ring, so to speak.  Instead he lost :/

Wolfkrone started talking shame on Facebook about K-Brad and any of his fans. Then K-Brad beat his dog at that last tourney and got in his face over it.

I'm not a fan of K-Brad either but Wolfkrone is a poor sport, a sore loser, and a shame talker.

I don't know who was at fault, but K-Brad should have handled himself better.  Now he's out.  What did he prove?

On another note, I don't agree about Chun Li being overly nerfed.  MOV lost because he used wake-up EX Spinning Bird Kick quite a distance away and got punished.

Yeah I'm really getting tired of listening to the excuses about "boohoo! b-b-but their character was nerfed!". Yeah. Chun-Li was borderline broken in Season 1. Many would say she was. So what you really mean to say is that these people who still play formerly broken characters are losing because they don't have an unfair number of advantages now. Ricki Ortiz didn't go 0-7 because "Chun-Li sucks". She went 0-7 because she couldn't adapt and conveniently she's switching to Cammy, who is really strong right now. Fchamp is playing Dhalsim right now and he's 4-1 at the moment. Gllty plays Dhalsim and went 0-7. Was Dhalsim the problem or was Gllty out of her league? If he was the problem, Fchamp would stand no chance right now.

Pretty much.  I don't agree with the current balance, but Chun Li isn't bad, you just need to work now like most characters.  Mov honestly pulled out crazy shame, but he did a wake up DP no where near his opponent, more than once and lost because of it.  That's on him.  Dhalshim is good, Gllty sucks and fudge him selling signed Daigo books on ebay.

Wait... who is selling signed Daigo books?

Supposedly Gllty had been selling Daigo's books on wbay for like 1k each.  If Gllty wasn't a sucker, I wouldn't have believed it.

I'm confused. You said "fudge him". Is Gllty actually a dude or did you just mistype?

That round was intense
He "was".  I found his old instagram trying to figure out why everyone called "her" "him"

Jesus Christ. Is ChocoBlanka a dude too?

I hope not, Momochi married her.

I'm assuming this is Gllty, their facial features are too similar:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2151510219/0718091959_400x400.jpg)

Plus that shows up when searching.

Or maybe Momochi married "him".  :P

You never know with the FGC

I had read someone talking about how "women like Ricki were paving the way for women in e-sports". I'm pretty sure there needs to be an asterisk pointing out that Ricki used to be 'Richard'. I'm all for people living their life but when you start trying to use people like Ricki to push some social/political agenda, you can't just simply overlook shame like that.

Those footsies.
Especially when you consider the sucker Rcki used to be.

I didn't pay much attention to the FGC competitive scene until a few years ago. So Ricki was a sucker, huh?

I think he called himself, or they called him, "Fabulous Ricki" or something to that extent.  I just remember he went to one Battle Circuit (I'm assuming he goes to the other coast weekly) and he was so flamboyant.  Plus one Evo I remember him just crouching and pressing hard punch and being all around cheap with Rufus.  It was so scrubby, but also insulting like "You're not worthy of me so I'm gonna crouch hp".  Now he's all "I'm an introverted girl now".  Like really?  What happened that made you do this 180?  

Got drunk one night. Got treated like a cheap hoe by some guy. Started liking men but also wanted to wear a dress.

I guess.  

I don't know who's gonna win.  Akuma's HP is too low and Chun isn't actually bad.

Do people who complain about no footies in SF 5 not play the game or something?  It's only been footsies tonight.

The funny thing is you have people who baby that it's all footsies and no cool action. Then you have people who claim it has no footsies and is mindless. Which is it?

Tokido runs his mouth about Group A being garbage.

Gootecks 0-7
K-Brad 1-6
Tokido himself loses more than he wins.