Sony defends decision to block crossplay: "A responsibility to our install base."

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Sony defends decision to block crossplay: "A responsibility to our install base." - NeoGAF

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Sony has defended its decision to block cross-play between PS4 and Xbox One after coming under fire from gamers this week. During its E3 2017 media briefing, Microsoft announced that cross-platform play is coming to Minecraft, one of the biggest games in the world. It means Nintendo Switch, Xbox One, PC, mobile and VR Minecraft players can all play together. And today, Nintendo announced Rocket League, another of the world's biggest games, is coming to Nintendo Switch, and developer Psyonix confirmed cross-platform play between Xbox One, Switch and Steam. In both cases, PS4 was absent from the list of consoles available for cross-play. So what's up?

 
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Minecraft works cross-platform between Switch, Xbox and PC. Today, Rocket League was announced as working cross-platform between Switch, Xbox and PC. Both don't work cross-platform with PlayStation. Now, is this Sony not playing ball? What is actually going on here? Jim Ryan: It's certainly not a profound philosophical stance we have against this. We've done it in the past. We're always open to conversations with any developer or publisher who wants to talk about it. Unfortunately it's a commercial discussion between ourselves and other stakeholders, and I'm not going to get into the detail of that on this particular instance. And I can see your eyes rolling.Well, you must see that PlayStation owners are upset. They want to play with Switch owners, PC owners and Xbox One owners for these two big and important games, and they don't have an explanation why. That's what I'm getting at, really. Jim Ryan: Yeah. We've got to be mindful of our responsibility to our install base. Minecraft - the demographic playing that, you know as well as I do, it's all ages but it's also very young. We have a contract with the people who go online with us, that we look after them and they are within the PlayStation curated universe. Exposing what in many cases are children to external influences we have no ability to manage or look after, it's something we have to think about very carefully.It doesn't seem to be a problem for Nintendo, perhaps the most mindful video game company of the protection of children. Jim Ryan: Yeah, that's true. Everybody has to take their own decisions. We'll do that. Like I say, we have no philosophical stance against cross-play at all.Is this a done deal? Or are you leaving the door open, perhaps? Jim Ryan: I don't think anything is ever a done deal. Anybody who is dogmatic in that manner is typically a fool. That said, to my knowledge, there is no live conversation ongoing at the moment. So there you have it. If you're playing Minecraft or Rocket League or any other game on PS4, don't expect to play with Nintendo Switch or Xbox One owners.

 

Xevross

battleship. Arrogant Sony is back.

There needs to be a big backlash to this

the-pi-guy

Sony: "won't someone think of the children!!!?"

BasilZero

I agree with them

This is to ensure the safety of members of their network - they cant moderate if someone's being an bumb on PC, MS or Nintendo platforms!


Spoiler for Hidden:
/s

Legend

I agree with them

This is to ensure the safety of members of their network - they cant moderate if someone's being an bumb on PC, MS or Nintendo platforms!


Spoiler for Hidden:
/s

But that is true. An XBL player could break Sony's terms of service yet not face any recourse. Can't report people on a different network.

It's just stupid to use this as an excuse instead of describing it as a solvable hurdle.

the-pi-guy

But don't all these games have or planned to have crossplay?  

Atom Universe
Phantasy Star Online 2
DC Universe Online
Dragon's Dogma Online
Eve: Valkyrie
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
Boundless
Brawlhalla
Dead Star
Guns of Icarus Online
Paragon
Pox Nora
Rocket League
Square Heroes
Street Fighter V
Super Dungeon Bros
War Thunder
Way of Redemption
Weapons of Mythology: New Age

What changed?  

Why not just require the game developer (for in game communications), that communications have to adhere to their guidelines?

Raven

Really don't know how I feel about this. On one hand I know it's a business decision to entice people to buy PlayStation with "the biggest, healthiest community for game Y". On the other, this limits the gaming community and divides a player base that would otherwise be unified and helping to ensure a strong community for everyone.

BasilZero

But that is true. An XBL player could break Sony's terms of service yet not face any recourse. Can't report people on a different network.

It's just stupid to use this as an excuse instead of describing it as a solvable hurdle.
Pretty sure there's a universal way to report or block a person otherwise why would they release a feature and not put protections on it?"

But don't all these games have or planned to have crossplay?  

Atom Universe
Phantasy Star Online 2
DC Universe Online
Dragon's Dogma Online
Eve: Valkyrie
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn
Boundless
Brawlhalla
Dead Star
Guns of Icarus Online
Paragon
Pox Nora
Rocket League
Square Heroes
Street Fighter V
Super Dungeon Bros
War Thunder
Way of Redemption
Weapons of Mythology: New Age

What changed?  

Why not just require the game developer (for in game communications), that communications have to adhere to their guidelines?
Microsoft being the publisher changed.

Legend

Pretty sure there's a universal way to report or block a person otherwise why would they release a feature and not put protections on it?"
Is there though?

Aura7541

I'm calling battleship, Sony.

SWORDF1SH

battleship answer from Sony but why should Sony share it's install base with the competition? They are leaders and it's pretty clear that their install is a strength that other companies want to sap off. I completely understand this from a business point of view and honestly I couldn't care less. Gamers are a bunch of whiners sometimes. Btw this is the exact scenario Xbox wanted to happen and there is no way in hell they would crossplay if they were in Sony's position.

BasilZero

Is there though?
I wouldnt know, I dont play Minecraft.

But there should be one in a instance like this.

Similar to how other games that share servers have.

darkknightkryta

I'm guessing this has to do with Sony vs Microsoft (Not Microsoft's fault on this case).  I mean, I can be playing against someone on PS4 with my PC copy of SF 5 right now if I wasn't posting this this second so there's something else going on.

Legend

I wouldnt know, I dont play Minecraft.

But there should be one in a instance like this.

Similar to how other games that share servers have.
WEll how does it work with pc crossplay?

ON ps4 can you see the steam name of people?

SOny could fix it by forcing people to sync psn accounts. Would work since they're market leader.

BasilZero

WEll how does it work with pc crossplay?

ON ps4 can you see the steam name of people?

SOny could fix it by forcing people to sync psn accounts. Would work since they're market leader.
I dont know lol - never really played Minecraft enough to be honest.


(or any MP games as of late to be frank)