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Started by Legend, Mar 09, 2017, 03:06 AM
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VizionEck Cube Royale is releasing this year "I'm Mike Armbrust" -Me |
VizionEck Cube Royale is releasing this year "I'm Mike Armbrust" -Me |
So all the metal flowers were placed by Aloy's "mom" before she died? I was kinda confused why she had the triangle of flowers around here yet Aloy kept referring to the metal flowers as new growth.The thing is, they mentioned that Apollo was placed in multiple locations for the sake of redundancy. Hades also knew quite a bit for a subordinate program whose sole task was to undo the terraforming process if it didn't go exactly to plan. It was able to teach Sylens things like physics and calculus. It also promised to teach him quantum processing. Those don't sound like things Hades should have been able to teach anyone. I don't think Faro was actually successful. I think he THOUGHT he succeeded and so did the Alphas he killed.
Also I loved how Ted Faro deleted the Apollo module and killed everyone. At first it felt like he bumbled into creating doomsday but that character development really showed he was a flawed man who learned nothing.
So what was up with the AI at the Banook mountain? The GAIA explosion launched it over there? Which one was it? And of course what started all these events 20 years ago?
The thing is, they mentioned that Apollo was placed in multiple locations for the sake of redundancy. Hades also knew quite a bit for a subordinate program whose sole task was to undo the terraforming process if it didn't go exactly to plan. It was able to teach Sylens things like physics and calculus. It also promised to teach him quantum processing. Those don't sound like things Hades should have been able to teach anyone. I don't think Faro was actually successful. I think he THOUGHT he succeeded and so did the Alphas he killed.Hades was a true AI just like GAIA. It wouldn't have the vast swarms of human knowledge but it'd know general stuff and everything that'd help it kill life on Earth.
I believe that core in particular was which ever one controls the machines that it creates for the purpose of assisting in the terraforming process. Though I don't think that subordinate program was stuck in that device alone. However, it's clear there was an issue as the machines were still around performing their tasks long after it was necessary and strictly combat machines were being made, which wasn't necessary for the terraforming process.The robots were still needed since large animals weren't introduced yet. I think the design was for humans to take over the process but since Apollo failed they never did. Instead the AI needed to keep managing the world itself.
VizionEck Cube Royale is releasing this year "I'm Mike Armbrust" -Me |
The odyssey blew up. I found a log from a different person that talked about it. When the engines were turned on for testing, it had a critical failure and physically destroyed the entire ship killing everyone. Don't see how/why that could have been faked.I don't think that's true. As far as I know, Hades was a subordinate program just like all the others. Gaia was the only true AI. Its only function was to lock Gaia out of being able to command the other subordinate programs when the set parameters for terraforming were not being met, order them to reverse the terraforming process, and then allow Gaia control again once everything returned to a zero state. That was its specific function. Hades and the other subordinate functions did not become self-aware until after the mysterious signal contacted Gaia. This is why I think Hades managed to either copy or largely consume the other subordinate programs. It had no capacity to create new machines on its own. It needed Hephaestus to do that. However, after the signal, Hades was able to create new machines without Hephaestus. Unless you mean Hades become an actual AI after the signal went out.
Hades was a true AI just like GAIA. It wouldn't have the vast swarms of human knowledge but it'd know general stuff and everything that'd help it kill life on Earth.
Faro was successful at least in some form. That's why Eleuthia in all mother mountain couldn't teach the children and the learning center was locked off.
The robots were still needed since large animals weren't introduced yet. I think the design was for humans to take over the process but since Apollo failed they never did. Instead the AI needed to keep managing the world itself.
The combat machines were made by Hades. The logs in the cauldrons show the Eclipse attempting to hack in and successfully succeed, changing the parameters for construction. I now agree that that core was in charge of the machines, HEPHAESTUS. It being gone was what started the general derangement yet in its immediate vicinity it could still manage the machines.
I guess some humans in bunkers could have survived the extinction too. The Nora were created by Zero Dawn but they talk about there being people from other origins too.
I don't think that's true. As far as I know, Hades was a subordinate program just like all the others. Gaia was the only true AI. Its only function was to lock Gaia out of being able to command the other subordinate programs when the set parameters for terraforming were not being met, order them to reverse the terraforming process, and then allow Gaia control again once everything returned to a zero state. That was its specific function. Hades and the other subordinate functions did not become self-aware until after the mysterious signal contacted Gaia. This is why I think Hades managed to either copy or largely consume the other subordinate programs. It had no capacity to create new machines on its own. It needed Hephaestus to do that. However, after the signal, Hades was able to create new machines without Hephaestus. Unless you mean Hades become an actual AI after the signal went out.You're right. I just rewatched the cutscene and it wasn't an AI.
VizionEck Cube Royale is releasing this year "I'm Mike Armbrust" -Me |
I just went through the last cauldron I had yet to do and at the end Aloy says that Hephaestus is responsible for what's happening with the machines. That now that it's free from Gaia, it has its own agenda but Aloy doesn't know what it could be. Thoughts?I Think it is focused on keeping the world in order. Without gaia it now sees the humans as a threat since they destroy the robots.
VizionEck Cube Royale is releasing this year "I'm Mike Armbrust" -Me |
I Think it is focused on keeping the world in order. Without gaia it now sees the humans as a threat since they destroy the robots.This seems right. Each section of Gaia is an intelligent AI on its own right. So either it realised a need to make these new machines or it is just designing and making whatever it wants without being restricted by Gaia now.
So I'm wondering what would happen at the final mission if you didn't do the Petra side mission where she gets the parts to build her sweet grenade launcher thing? Would she always bring a shame ton of those to that fight? That part would be hard as hell if she wasn't there.She's always there. I hadn't done her side quest before the final mission.
She's always there. I hadn't done her side quest before the final mission.That's kinda weird. I'm almost surprised they didn't make her side quest an actual main quest instead.
Actually it was kind of weird. I had no idea who she was but her and Aloy talked like they already met. At the time I thought I'd just forgotten her
That's kinda weird. I'm almost surprised they didn't make her side quest an actual main quest instead.It wasn't so off-putting. They didn't talk like the quest had happened, just as if they'd seen each other before. I thought maybe I'd bumped into her as a minor NPC. Maybe I had, I can't remember
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