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Legend

If The Last Jedi was re-edited and some parts were done better, it could have been a really really good movie. I want to love it but it's all over the place.

Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>Mikes cut:<br><br>Remove the stupid god awful Lea in space scene. Have the explosion but cut it early so you don&#39;t really see the extent of the damage. Then go straight to the announcement of the new leader and mention how Akbar died and Lea is just barely hanging on. Make it seem like she might not even make it through this.<br><br>Remove Po, Finn, and Rose&#39;s plots. Still have their events happen, but skip showing them. Leave it as just a side quest that the present characters are invested in but not involved in. I really liked the idea of them failing and not being the heroes like we expected, but the casino planet and the Finn+Rose relationship were kinda poorly done. Would probably need different footage to edit that into a good enough thing.<br><br>Then just make the small changes elsewhere too keep things consistent.<br><br><br>It&#39;d probably be an 8 or 9 if it was done this way imo, just a different edit of the current footage.<br>



Also a general thought
Spoiler for Hidden:
<br>The movie couldn&#39;t decide what it wanted to be.<br><br>On one hand it was a very serious film that was trying to be big and complex with deep intentions. It had a lot of themes and they were pretty cool.<br><br>On the other hand, it tried to be a generic Marvel like action film.<br><br>These two did not mix in the slightest. You can&#39;t have a pointless sidequest with Finn and Rose that frustrates the viewer because this story is pushing failure as a theme, yet have Lea become a magic space wizard that comes back to life thanks to plot armor. Or similarly you can&#39;t have the message about self sacrifice with Finn not being worth it when just a few seconds earlier random other pilots are blowing up in a standard action scene.<br><br>The movie tried to be deep yet it didn&#39;t fully commit to it.<br>

Xevross

If The Last Jedi was re-edited and some parts were done better, it could have been a really really good movie. I want to love it but it's all over the place.

Spoiler for Hidden:

Mikes cut:

Remove the stupid god awful Lea in space scene. Have the explosion but cut it early so you don't really see the extent of the damage. Then go straight to the announcement of the new leader and mention how Akbar died and Lea is just barely hanging on. Make it seem like she might not even make it through this.

Remove Po, Finn, and Rose's plots. Still have their events happen, but skip showing them. Leave it as just a side quest that the present characters are invested in but not involved in. I really liked the idea of them failing and not being the heroes like we expected, but the casino planet and the Finn+Rose relationship were kinda poorly done. Would probably need different footage to edit that into a good enough thing.

Then just make the small changes elsewhere too keep things consistent.


It'd probably be an 8 or 9 if it was done this way imo, just a different edit of the current footage.



Also a general thought
Spoiler for Hidden:

The movie couldn't decide what it wanted to be.

On one hand it was a very serious film that was trying to be big and complex with deep intentions. It had a lot of themes and they were pretty cool.

On the other hand, it tried to be a generic Marvel like action film.

These two did not mix in the slightest. You can't have a pointless sidequest with Finn and Rose that frustrates the viewer because this story is pushing failure as a theme, yet have Lea become a magic space wizard that comes back to life thanks to plot armor. Or similarly you can't have the message about self sacrifice with Finn not being worth it when just a few seconds earlier random other pilots are blowing up in a standard action scene.

The movie tried to be deep yet it didn't fully commit to it.

Almost exactly my thoughts after first viewing. I've now watched it three times and I disagree with you and my past self. I absolutely love it now and can hardly fault it  :D

Legend

Almost exactly my thoughts after first viewing. I've now watched it three times and I disagree with you and my past self. I absolutely love it now and can hardly fault it  :D
Spoiler for Hidden:
Even the lea space scene?

Xevross

Spoiler for Hidden:
Even the lea space scene?

Oh no that's still trash.

the-pi-guy

Last Jedi is falling behind other movies.  
Went from 2nd highest 8 days US, to 3rd highest 9 days, 4th highest 10 day sales.  

It's falling pretty fast too.  

10 day sales is about equal to 9 day sales of Jurassic World.

Dr. Pezus

Last Jedi is falling behind other movies.  
Went from 2nd highest 8 days US, to 3rd highest 9 days, 4th highest 10 day sales.  

It's falling pretty fast too.  

10 day sales is about equal to 9 day sales of Jurassic World.
Possibly due to Christmas? I mean not many people go to the cinema on Christmas day etc?

the-pi-guy

Possibly due to Christmas? I mean not many people go to the cinema on Christmas day etc?
No, Christmas day was the biggest day outside of it's opening weekend.  Doubled box-office from the 24th to the 25th despite the 25th being a Monday.
It's also way below TFA.  
170 million behind now.  

Legend

Yeah Christmas is a big movie day. People go with family.

Not shocked the numbers are dropping. Even if everyone liked it, I feel the drop would be similar. Fans would front load sales.

the-pi-guy

Watching potc: Dead Men tell no tales.

It's alright so far.  

There's another couple like Will and Elizabeth.  I think it's kinda lame.  

nnodley

Watching potc: Dead Men tell no tales.

It's alright so far.  

There's another couple like Will and Elizabeth.  I think it's kinda lame.  
Best POTC, since the first 2, imo.  

BananaKing

Best POTC, since the first 2, imo.  
1,2,3 were the best by far.

4 was disappointing

5 was entertaining

nnodley

1,2,3 were the best by far.

4 was disappointing

5 was entertaining

Yeah I don't disagree except for 3.  I found 5 to be better than that one, but 1 and 2 are for sure the best

Xevross

POTC 3 was my favourite movie as a kid for a bit, because I loved the ship battle at the end. Transformers was my other favourite, guess I just liked mindless action.

the-pi-guy

Star wars is pulling back in second place.  A bit ahead of Jurassic world, now.  

Expectedly, way behind the last Star wars though.  $220 million behind.  

Legend


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